Speaking as a parent, if my daughter did this (and I would be shocked if she did), I would make damn sure sufficient wrath descended upon her that she'd never do it again. Firstly, for stealing from her father, and secondly, for spending money on stupid shit.
If your kids don't think their actions have consequences, you're doing it wrong. Your job isn't to insulate them from the world, it's just to put safety wheels on it until they can ride it safely.
When I was a kid i did something similiar.
I used a C64 & a Vic Modem to call BBS's in California. I knew it was long distance, but I didn't understand how much it would actually cost. Needless to say, I had to pay my parents back the $100 or so I racked up. And we are talking mid 80's, so that was a lot of money to a kid.
Guess what? I learned my lesson, and I didn't have to put in passwords every 15 mins. Nor did the phone companies have to change how they did things so I wouldn't do that again.
God, I miss the old days when parents actually parented this kids.
I want privacy rights against the Government spying on me.
And yes, he's a Token President.
What do I mean? he's like every other piece of shit token polititian that says whatever works to get him in office and then doesn't go thru with his promises. Token.
For the record, I made the mistake of believing his speeches. Won't happen again.
This is also problem with so many open source projects. They all forget about disabilities and blind people. I've tried to get them to support them, but no one is interested adding such features. That's what proprietary software has done a lot better - they actually do account for disabled and blind people too. It's a major obstacle with open source software, but for example Microsoft and other big companies have generally supported such features.
So what if google doesn't want to put in disablilty crap in their software. They shouldn't have to. Of course, they competitors do, so they will get the business, but then, thats what capitilism is all about?
I'm disabled, but i don't want to company doing shit for me because it has to. I want them to do it because they support the disabled, not because they are forced to.
If they want my business, they'd be smart to. If they don't, I go else where. It's simple and easy, and yet we have laws to force people into doing something that isn't needed at every place.
I took a break from slashdot for a few years, came back a year ago, and seriously, this site is sucking even more now.
facebook is anything but nerd like. It's way too fucking popular. it's programed in a style most of us would never do, and honestly, the site probably offends most of us.
Unless the story is facebook crashes and burns and someone forgot to make backups, please spare us.
Seriously, fuck facebook and it's stupid news stories that shouldn't be on this site.
No, Fuck YOU SLASHDOT for being a lame fucking site these days.
News for nerds? You even know what a fucking nerd is?
Here's my analogy: You buy a nice new 55" 1080p LED-LCD 3D TV. You've never seen a need for cable before, but your mother-in-law has moved into your spare bedroom and she likes to watch cable. You call the cable company for basic cable. Their first question is "What kind of television do you have?". Strange question, but you answer. Cable- "OK, Sir. You have a screen over 40", so you have to get a HD box. Since it's also a 3D TV, you have to get all the movie channels and sports packages." You-"But I just want basic for my M-I-L to watch the news and normal programming". Cable "Sorry, Sir - that's our policy".
I call bullshit.
You can order different packages. You want basic cable for normal tvs? You can order it. You have an HDTV and you want to watch stuff in 720p, you can order and pay extra for the HDTV box. You only want 1 pay channel (lets say HBO). Yes, there are packages for that.
Granted I am only familiar with Comcast Cable, and not all the various cable companies out there, but by the few different cable companies i've had to dealt with (Like Millinium when it was around) were similiar.
Either your making this shit up, or your a stupid fuck who does NOT know how to research what you are getting. I'm going with your making this up to prove a point (a point that you couldn't actually think of a real world example).
Now, I'm going to change the topic here for a sec. That HD stream you are getting from comcast? sucks. When action scenes hit, it's pixelized like a crappy divx convert. I prefer to download shows off the internet then watch them via comcast cable. If I paid for the cable, i'd be pissed. But i don't, so I'm mildy disgusted.
Seems to me, if any other type of business that produces goods, had as many bugs and other crap as the adobe reader has had, wouldn't they be given large fines and other crap and not allowed to put products out until they fix it?
While I surf safe (even with the large amount of pirated/cracked/copyrighted stuff I download, I don't get hit with virus/trojans/worms/whatever. Yet, my family, friends don't have the talent, or brains to be online like i do. Update their flash player? doubt it. update acrobat? probably not. Do they use the firefox & foxit that I put on their computers? nope.
Seems to me a class action lawsuit against software companies that have a track record of buggy/exploitable software is what is needed.
Oh wait, 'cept the fucking lawyers will win. damn.
The problem that I have is that many of us don't WANT to be a pirates, but the studios heavy-handedness and greed make it almost impossible NOT to. I am perfectly happy buying a blu-ray or DVD. But the studios often throw up so many road-blocks to me as a legitimate consumer as to make it impossible.
I DVR "The Color of Money" (one of Scorsese's best, IMHO) in HD and I want to buy a copy that won't disappear the second my DVR dies. But, guess what? The studio says I can't (the only legally available version is a crappy non-anamorphic DVD that looks awful on a modern TV). So I'm left with the option of Pirate Bay or illegally ripping it off my DVR (both of which would make me a pirate in their eyes). I want to buy it legitimately, but the studio says no.
I DVR "Space Race: The Untold Story" (great docudrama, BTW) in HD from the National Geographic Channel. Same deal, want to buy it. But this time the studio won't even let me buy a DVD in the U.S. (much less an HD blu-ray). It's only available in Region 2. So, even if I import it, I would now be forced to illegally modify my DVD player to watch it. Want to buy it. Want to be honest. Nope, I would have to rip it from my DVR if I wanted to own it.
Even with the blu-rays and DVD's I *can* buy, I'm stuck watching 5 or 6 forced trailers at the beginning of each (many studios not even letting me skip them). Don't want to spend several minutes fighting with your player just to watch the goddamn movie you paid for? Better go off to Pirate Bay, because that's the only way you're getting it, buddy.
To Sony, Warner, Paramount, et. al.: Stop forcing people to be pirates with your fucking DRM, your greed, your region coding, your goddamn bizarre distribution rights agreements, etc. and you'll find there are a LOT more people willing to actually pay for your stuff than you think.
While I understand what your saying, the problem i find is, why feel bad?
The companies that make the shows you like, don't care about you. They do NOT care what you want, all they want is money.
If they are NOT smart enough to make it available in formats you want, then screw them. Don't feel bad. It's their loss.
You can, of course, write them and let them know that because they don't offer the quality of the show that you want, your forced to get it other ways. Which is money they just lost in sales, because they don't provide the product in modern formats.
That is the only way they learn. They have to be told why they aren't getting money.
I agree, they won't ERADICATE piracy with lower prices.
I actually think the sales numbers/experiment from Steam/L4D speak more about charging first adopters a premium, then tapering off your pricing as the new hotness factor rolls off, promoting sales later on for basically free. Using that model alone, you can charge less up front, and still taper the prices off and come away with the same net income, just over a longer period.
no, they won't. Because piracy has been around since the beginning. It is a smoke screen that companies use to pass the blame from their crappy product to people "stealing" it.
I am selling an iPhone game at 0.99 $ and there's still people pirating it. Does it have to be even cheaper?
I suggest you do some history checking of software.
Piracy has been around since day 1. Sheesh, probably before that. Code sharing, program sharing, was what happened all the time.
In fact, computer software & games have probably been pirated longer then you've been alive (have no idea how old you are).
Your game is going to get pirated, no matter what. If your lucky, you made a good enough game that peeps like it, and you'll get paid by those that don't pirate. If it's a crappy game, you won't get much money.
But being surprised that your game is being pirated only shows that you did NOT do your homework on selling software.
You don't need to sell your game cheaper. Ignore the pirates, they are part of the scene. If you aren't making money on your game, don't blame it on the pirates, look at the facts. Was it one of a kind? Too hard to play? Boring after awhile? Was there way too many other games just like it? Was it a stupid game that a 5 year old would get bored with after 2 seconds?
Piracy has been here since the beginning, and will be here to the end. The companies that bitch about it now so loud, have been making millions/billions of dollars over the years even with piracy around. It is nothing but a scapegoat people use to make excuses on why their products suck.
You'd be surprised how much better pirated versions of games can be due to buggy or invasive DRM. Even as simple as not needing to put in the DVD each time you want to play the game can be enough drive for someone to download a no CD hack if not outright pirate the game.
Even games I buy, I usually use the crack for it. A lot of times, I just use the pirated version with my CD key.
Why? Because of the crappy DRM.
I'd rather take the chance the crack might be screwed up then run something with DRM on my computer.
Yeah and the only reason why Valve could afford to do such a discount was because they had already made back all of their money back and then some by that point so they had a greater incentive to cut huge discounts on an older title with flat sales. If you think Valve would ever do that for a new game, you'd be kidding yourself.
Because valve doesn't spend millions of dollars developing a game that might, if they are lucky, make the money back. No, valve is smarter then that, and keeps the cost of making the game low, while keeping the game quality high, so they can make their money back quickly and make a profit.
That is smart business right there.
This is what happens when you "Hollywood" something. It's the idea that if you spend more money making something, that your entitled to a bigger profit. Only problem is, that only works on really really good stuff that everyone likes. Which doesn't happen often.
So you can bitch about Valve all you want, but the truth is, they are not only on the PC gamers side, they make quality games that aren't way overpriced, and they have no problem dropping the price on their games.
Not to mention you don't hear them bitch about pirates all the fucking time (and blaming them), and they don't demand always on DRM. (yes, you need to be online to use their services, but not to play the games).
Also, in regards to you saying that valve won't discount a new game. Yes, you are right. They won't. EA won't. Activision/Blizzard Won't. [Insert Game Company Here] Won't. Wake up and smell the real world dude.
How many other companies will discount their products for sales afterwards like Valve does? Not many, at least, I never hear of it. And EA can, since it has it's own store now. And other companies are following suit with stores, guess we might see.
Technically they're right. We are not a democracy, we are a republic. Their reasons for doing this may be wrong, but I agree with the overall outcome.
P.S. Registered Democrat speaking here.
yes, but their reasoning is flawed. If they aren't using the word democracy because it has the word democrat in it, then why use republic when it's part of the word, republican?
Is this seriously what we want to teach our kids?
oh, great, I read the article and see that what i'm referring to is probably just added opinion by the 0ryan0.
Technically they're right. We are not a democracy, we are a republic. Their reasons for doing this may be wrong, but I agree with the overall outcome.
P.S. Registered Democrat speaking here.
yes, but their reasoning is flawed. If they aren't using the word democracy because it has the word democrat in it, then why use republic when it's part of the word, republican?
.... I could never figure out how suspending a kid was a punishment....
You should talk to the step mom I had growing up. One time I got suspended for 3 days she made me wheel barrow dirt around during school hours. It was pretty evil. Because it was wet, seeing as it was raining.
As much as GeoHot put himself in this whole legal mess... He created the content and put the video up, people who simply clicked "play" did nothing wrong. In fact, YouTube holds more guilt than all of them simply for making it available.
that's weird, i thought they were going after the ip of people who left comments, not people who viewed the video.
I really wish they ran a live version of the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe in place of it.
SG:Atlantis and SG1 were great shows. SGU just lacked any of the wit and fun those shows brought us. I watched SG:A and SG1 because they were fun, last thing I really needed was a giant bummer.
It was the lack of wit and "let's see what part of the ship breaks down this week!" that killed SGU for me. I think SGU had a lot of potential but it was basically Twilight in space.
I actually thought the store was getting interesting when they suddenly developed a "mission" in the last episodes. Which they should of done by the end of the first season, might of helped them stay alive.
Pulling down the skin beneath one of your eyes is considered a rude gesture in Japan. (Called "akanbe") It's not really equivalent to the finger, it's more like (and often accompanied by) sticking your tongue out. Rather difficult for a robot though.
Okay, thanks. I always see this in anime & manga, and while I knew it was some sort of gesture at someone, i wasn't exactly sure what.
where the front page was nothing but a banner and search entry field? Or where "do no evil" was more than an abandoned slogan of good faith? Google sold its soul a long time ago, there is no going backwards.
A companies soul is the cost of them going corporate.
Slashdot Mirror
Wonder if they make movies like this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1612774/
After all, that is the best idea I have ever heard for a movie, evah!
don't subscribe to netflix, won't ever. As long as the big studios keep making movies, I will keep downloading them.
Until they change their business practises, I am NOT supporting them at all.
Which is too bad for netflix, since I don't have anything against them, but I'm not paying them, so they can pay the shit head movie studios.
Speaking as a parent, if my daughter did this (and I would be shocked if she did), I would make damn sure sufficient wrath descended upon her that she'd never do it again. Firstly, for stealing from her father, and secondly, for spending money on stupid shit.
If your kids don't think their actions have consequences, you're doing it wrong. Your job isn't to insulate them from the world, it's just to put safety wheels on it until they can ride it safely.
When I was a kid i did something similiar.
I used a C64 & a Vic Modem to call BBS's in California. I knew it was long distance, but I didn't understand how much it would actually cost. Needless to say, I had to pay my parents back the $100 or so I racked up. And we are talking mid 80's, so that was a lot of money to a kid.
Guess what? I learned my lesson, and I didn't have to put in passwords every 15 mins. Nor did the phone companies have to change how they did things so I wouldn't do that again.
God, I miss the old days when parents actually parented this kids.
I want privacy rights against the Government spying on me.
And yes, he's a Token President.
What do I mean? he's like every other piece of shit token polititian that says whatever works to get him in office and then doesn't go thru with his promises. Token.
For the record, I made the mistake of believing his speeches. Won't happen again.
This is also problem with so many open source projects. They all forget about disabilities and blind people. I've tried to get them to support them, but no one is interested adding such features. That's what proprietary software has done a lot better - they actually do account for disabled and blind people too. It's a major obstacle with open source software, but for example Microsoft and other big companies have generally supported such features.
So what if google doesn't want to put in disablilty crap in their software. They shouldn't have to. Of course, they competitors do, so they will get the business, but then, thats what capitilism is all about?
I'm disabled, but i don't want to company doing shit for me because it has to. I want them to do it because they support the disabled, not because they are forced to.
If they want my business, they'd be smart to. If they don't, I go else where. It's simple and easy, and yet we have laws to force people into doing something that isn't needed at every place.
Do we really need news about facebook every day?
I took a break from slashdot for a few years, came back a year ago, and seriously, this site is sucking even more now.
facebook is anything but nerd like. It's way too fucking popular. it's programed in a style most of us would never do, and honestly, the site probably offends most of us.
Unless the story is facebook crashes and burns and someone forgot to make backups, please spare us.
Seriously, fuck facebook and it's stupid news stories that shouldn't be on this site.
No, Fuck YOU SLASHDOT for being a lame fucking site these days.
News for nerds? You even know what a fucking nerd is?
Do you even know what NEWS is?
Okay, this article had me at:
"Mathematicians invented a new method to can and bottle stout beers like Guinness while still getting that satisfying head."
Most everything is better while getting head. Mainly when it is satisfying. Power to the math dudes!!!!!
Here's my analogy: You buy a nice new 55" 1080p LED-LCD 3D TV. You've never seen a need for cable before, but your mother-in-law has moved into your spare bedroom and she likes to watch cable. You call the cable company for basic cable. Their first question is "What kind of television do you have?". Strange question, but you answer. Cable- "OK, Sir. You have a screen over 40", so you have to get a HD box. Since it's also a 3D TV, you have to get all the movie channels and sports packages." You-"But I just want basic for my M-I-L to watch the news and normal programming". Cable "Sorry, Sir - that's our policy".
I call bullshit.
You can order different packages. You want basic cable for normal tvs? You can order it. You have an HDTV and you want to watch stuff in 720p, you can order and pay extra for the HDTV box. You only want 1 pay channel (lets say HBO). Yes, there are packages for that.
Granted I am only familiar with Comcast Cable, and not all the various cable companies out there, but by the few different cable companies i've had to dealt with (Like Millinium when it was around) were similiar.
Either your making this shit up, or your a stupid fuck who does NOT know how to research what you are getting. I'm going with your making this up to prove a point (a point that you couldn't actually think of a real world example).
Now, I'm going to change the topic here for a sec. That HD stream you are getting from comcast? sucks. When action scenes hit, it's pixelized like a crappy divx convert. I prefer to download shows off the internet then watch them via comcast cable. If I paid for the cable, i'd be pissed. But i don't, so I'm mildy disgusted.
Seems to me, if any other type of business that produces goods, had as many bugs and other crap as the adobe reader has had, wouldn't they be given large fines and other crap and not allowed to put products out until they fix it?
While I surf safe (even with the large amount of pirated/cracked/copyrighted stuff I download, I don't get hit with virus/trojans/worms/whatever. Yet, my family, friends don't have the talent, or brains to be online like i do. Update their flash player? doubt it. update acrobat? probably not. Do they use the firefox & foxit that I put on their computers? nope.
Seems to me a class action lawsuit against software companies that have a track record of buggy/exploitable software is what is needed.
Oh wait, 'cept the fucking lawyers will win. damn.
The problem that I have is that many of us don't WANT to be a pirates, but the studios heavy-handedness and greed make it almost impossible NOT to. I am perfectly happy buying a blu-ray or DVD. But the studios often throw up so many road-blocks to me as a legitimate consumer as to make it impossible.
I DVR "The Color of Money" (one of Scorsese's best, IMHO) in HD and I want to buy a copy that won't disappear the second my DVR dies. But, guess what? The studio says I can't (the only legally available version is a crappy non-anamorphic DVD that looks awful on a modern TV). So I'm left with the option of Pirate Bay or illegally ripping it off my DVR (both of which would make me a pirate in their eyes). I want to buy it legitimately, but the studio says no.
I DVR "Space Race: The Untold Story" (great docudrama, BTW) in HD from the National Geographic Channel. Same deal, want to buy it. But this time the studio won't even let me buy a DVD in the U.S. (much less an HD blu-ray). It's only available in Region 2. So, even if I import it, I would now be forced to illegally modify my DVD player to watch it. Want to buy it. Want to be honest. Nope, I would have to rip it from my DVR if I wanted to own it.
Even with the blu-rays and DVD's I *can* buy, I'm stuck watching 5 or 6 forced trailers at the beginning of each (many studios not even letting me skip them). Don't want to spend several minutes fighting with your player just to watch the goddamn movie you paid for? Better go off to Pirate Bay, because that's the only way you're getting it, buddy.
To Sony, Warner, Paramount, et. al.: Stop forcing people to be pirates with your fucking DRM, your greed, your region coding, your goddamn bizarre distribution rights agreements, etc. and you'll find there are a LOT more people willing to actually pay for your stuff than you think.
While I understand what your saying, the problem i find is, why feel bad?
The companies that make the shows you like, don't care about you. They do NOT care what you want, all they want is money.
If they are NOT smart enough to make it available in formats you want, then screw them. Don't feel bad. It's their loss.
You can, of course, write them and let them know that because they don't offer the quality of the show that you want, your forced to get it other ways. Which is money they just lost in sales, because they don't provide the product in modern formats.
That is the only way they learn. They have to be told why they aren't getting money.
I agree, they won't ERADICATE piracy with lower prices.
I actually think the sales numbers/experiment from Steam/L4D speak more about charging first adopters a premium, then tapering off your pricing as the new hotness factor rolls off, promoting sales later on for basically free. Using that model alone, you can charge less up front, and still taper the prices off and come away with the same net income, just over a longer period.
no, they won't. Because piracy has been around since the beginning. It is a smoke screen that companies use to pass the blame from their crappy product to people "stealing" it.
If piracy was as bad as they make it, companies like EA would of been out of business decades ago. http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=443622
2010 3rd Quarter Fiscal report. Oh, look, pre xmas season, fall time, they pulled in profits. oh damn, them pirates must be slipping.
I am selling an iPhone game at 0.99 $ and there's still people pirating it. Does it have to be even cheaper?
I suggest you do some history checking of software.
Piracy has been around since day 1. Sheesh, probably before that. Code sharing, program sharing, was what happened all the time.
In fact, computer software & games have probably been pirated longer then you've been alive (have no idea how old you are).
Your game is going to get pirated, no matter what. If your lucky, you made a good enough game that peeps like it, and you'll get paid by those that don't pirate. If it's a crappy game, you won't get much money.
But being surprised that your game is being pirated only shows that you did NOT do your homework on selling software.
You don't need to sell your game cheaper. Ignore the pirates, they are part of the scene. If you aren't making money on your game, don't blame it on the pirates, look at the facts. Was it one of a kind? Too hard to play? Boring after awhile? Was there way too many other games just like it? Was it a stupid game that a 5 year old would get bored with after 2 seconds?
Piracy has been here since the beginning, and will be here to the end. The companies that bitch about it now so loud, have been making millions/billions of dollars over the years even with piracy around. It is nothing but a scapegoat people use to make excuses on why their products suck.
You'd be surprised how much better pirated versions of games can be due to buggy or invasive DRM. Even as simple as not needing to put in the DVD each time you want to play the game can be enough drive for someone to download a no CD hack if not outright pirate the game.
Even games I buy, I usually use the crack for it. A lot of times, I just use the pirated version with my CD key.
Why? Because of the crappy DRM.
I'd rather take the chance the crack might be screwed up then run something with DRM on my computer.
Yeah and the only reason why Valve could afford to do such a discount was because they had already made back all of their money back and then some by that point so they had a greater incentive to cut huge discounts on an older title with flat sales. If you think Valve would ever do that for a new game, you'd be kidding yourself.
Because valve doesn't spend millions of dollars developing a game that might, if they are lucky, make the money back. No, valve is smarter then that, and keeps the cost of making the game low, while keeping the game quality high, so they can make their money back quickly and make a profit.
That is smart business right there.
This is what happens when you "Hollywood" something. It's the idea that if you spend more money making something, that your entitled to a bigger profit. Only problem is, that only works on really really good stuff that everyone likes. Which doesn't happen often.
So you can bitch about Valve all you want, but the truth is, they are not only on the PC gamers side, they make quality games that aren't way overpriced, and they have no problem dropping the price on their games.
Not to mention you don't hear them bitch about pirates all the fucking time (and blaming them), and they don't demand always on DRM. (yes, you need to be online to use their services, but not to play the games).
Also, in regards to you saying that valve won't discount a new game. Yes, you are right. They won't. EA won't. Activision/Blizzard Won't. [Insert Game Company Here] Won't. Wake up and smell the real world dude.
How many other companies will discount their products for sales afterwards like Valve does? Not many, at least, I never hear of it. And EA can, since it has it's own store now. And other companies are following suit with stores, guess we might see.
Your choices aren't truly random though.
It's been argued many times, that people make choices in patterns.
That's okay bro, computers can't spit out true random numbers either.
Technically they're right. We are not a democracy, we are a republic. Their reasons for doing this may be wrong, but I agree with the overall outcome.
P.S. Registered Democrat speaking here.
yes, but their reasoning is flawed. If they aren't using the word democracy because it has the word democrat in it, then why use republic when it's part of the word, republican?
Is this seriously what we want to teach our kids?
oh, great, I read the article and see that what i'm referring to is probably just added opinion by the 0ryan0.
I fail. Should of read the article first.
Technically they're right. We are not a democracy, we are a republic. Their reasons for doing this may be wrong, but I agree with the overall outcome.
P.S. Registered Democrat speaking here.
yes, but their reasoning is flawed. If they aren't using the word democracy because it has the word democrat in it, then why use republic when it's part of the word, republican?
Is this seriously what we want to teach our kids?
we are too reliant on all technology.
If it all breaks down or stops working, we are fucked.
.... I could never figure out how suspending a kid was a punishment. ...
You should talk to the step mom I had growing up. One time I got suspended for 3 days she made me wheel barrow dirt around during school hours. It was pretty evil. Because it was wet, seeing as it was raining.
Praise "Bob"!
Kill "Bob!"
As much as GeoHot put himself in this whole legal mess... He created the content and put the video up, people who simply clicked "play" did nothing wrong. In fact, YouTube holds more guilt than all of them simply for making it available.
that's weird, i thought they were going after the ip of people who left comments, not people who viewed the video.
most of us are stuck with a copper last mile.
SGU was terrible.
I really wish they ran a live version of the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe in place of it.
SG:Atlantis and SG1 were great shows. SGU just lacked any of the wit and fun those shows brought us. I watched SG:A and SG1 because they were fun, last thing I really needed was a giant bummer.
It was the lack of wit and "let's see what part of the ship breaks down this week!" that killed SGU for me. I think SGU had a lot of potential but it was basically Twilight in space.
I actually thought the store was getting interesting when they suddenly developed a "mission" in the last episodes. Which they should of done by the end of the first season, might of helped them stay alive.
then again, maybe not.
... or that you forgot to take your pills.
I did forget, thanks!
Pulling down the skin beneath one of your eyes is considered a rude gesture in Japan. (Called "akanbe") It's not really equivalent to the finger, it's more like (and often accompanied by) sticking your tongue out. Rather difficult for a robot though.
Okay, thanks. I always see this in anime & manga, and while I knew it was some sort of gesture at someone, i wasn't exactly sure what.
where the front page was nothing but a banner and search entry field? Or where "do no evil" was more than an abandoned slogan of good faith? Google sold its soul a long time ago, there is no going backwards.
A companies soul is the cost of them going corporate.