"all the Mac users I know have little understanding about hardware, nor do they care to know about the hardware."
Not having to care is liberating.
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I'll bet it's liberating.
Probably feels good to know that you can easily get ripped off because you have no knowledge about the hardware, so you don't know exactly what your paying for or getting. Not to mention being overcharged for repairs because you have no clue.
You brought up cars today and not needing to know which sparkplug, etc. Well, mechanics have been ripping people off like you for a long time. why? because you don't bother to learn anything about your car, so you are subject to what they say, because you do NOT know better.
That makes you a very uninformed consumer. the type companies like, because they love to rip you off.
What really makes me sad these days aren't so much the graphical sacrifices that PC gamers have to suffer from, its the control limitations. Whenever I play Mass Effect, I feel like punching the developers, because its perfectly clear that whomever designed it was only targeting console game play mechanics.
I agree. I hate over the shoulder games. In fact, some of them make me sick to my stomach (Dead Space is one that does that).
I think they don't want to have people think the game is a first person shooter, when in reality, that is what the game is.
WTF? He's talking about USB. As in physical interconnection between the phone and the PC. If someone has tapped into a USB link, they already have the physical access necessary to get at your data regardless.
By your absurd logic, the USB mass-storage protocols should be encrypted because you might transfer personal information to/from a USB disk.
I like how you say I'm suggesting this by my logic, yet I didn't say that at all.
I said a Windows 7 phone usb stuff should be encrypted because it can be sending confidental data, as in emails, text, etc.
He said, which i had quoted in my original post, that it was encrypted.
I never said I think everything usb should be encrypted, why you got that shows I guess, your lack of understanding, or comprehension.
The original point was that the kinetic usb protocals weren't encrypted, which the person thought should be, because the Windows 7 phones were.
I made a point that it makes sense for the windows 7 phones to have the encryption. Not for any other device. You added that in by yourself.
And no, I think encryption on any mass storage devices would be stupid, but on my G1 when I sync contacts and stuff? ya, i would expect that data to be encrypted no matter if I used usb, wifi, or over the air to sync them.
There's something to this as far as MMOs go. People like to talk about how MMOs tickle the reward centres of the brain with their level-up/upgrade cycles and so on, but I suspect that this wears thin fairly quickly. Certainly, as somebody who has been heavily "into" and then got out of two MMOs (FFXI and WoW) over the last year, the social side of the game has been the biggest deterrent to leaving.
MMOs, of course, get to sting you twice in this respect. Not only do you get a social circle within the game, but if you're not careful, they also start pulling you away from your real-life social circle.
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Any social thing will do that.
Work, sports, etc.
The truth is, you need to decided how you spend your time, and who with.
I never got into going out with people i worked with for beers, or whatever. While I liked most the people good enough, they were work mates, not friends.
I play everquest 2 alot. I like the people in my guild, but in the game. I don't send them emails, text messages or anything else out of game.
Here's another shocker for you.
People that get married and have kids, start hanging out at home, with the sig other & the kids. OMG! Maybe we should do something about that!!!
but seriously, what we are talking about is peoples lack of control, not about anything bad happening.
When has anyone, especially Microsoft, ever cared about them?
What a completely uncalled for comment. When did Microsoft care for clueless home users? When half their market share was with clueless home users. When they implemented the UAC (the corporate world already knew to setup limited domain user accounts). When they came out with the free Microsoft Security Essentials, which was designed for home users. When they implemented automatic updates because clueless home users never applied service packs. Or maybe when they did a better job of locking down the default settings in the latest Windows/Internet Explorer.
Sure, they don't do a perfect job, as this case shows. But you will find privilege escalation bugs on most operating systems and Microsoft WILL come out with a patch to fix the bug. All the clueless home users have to do is wait for it to be automatically downloaded and applied.
MS only cares when something affects their bottom line. They, like most corporations, only care about profit.
They are talking about hardware, not what the current PC games compare to their console counter parts.
See, this is the problem. PC are capable of so more, yet we get a dumbed down console port instead of a game tailored to the extra stuff modern PC's can bring you.
Most PS3 & 360 games are barely 720p, usually less. Crappy AA on them, etc.
Modern PC can do the 1080p, max AA and not break a sweet. And not break your bank. Get a Nvidia 460 1gb card for $200 and you got yourself a nice card that kicks ass.
And yes, I'm a gamer. Been so for 30+ years. I prefer my PC for gaming (even got me 3D Vision, which rocks), but I do have a Xbox 360 (jtag'd), a Wii (softmodded) and will have a PS3 whenever I get enough money for it (ya, and I'll hack it also, because that's how i roll).
It's funny, because I remember when arcade games were the better graphics systems, and computers & consoles tried to be that good. Then the computers surpassed both the consoles & arcade games. And we, the computer gamers have been paying for it ever since.
(sorry, when the PS3 & 360 game out, their graphics weren't really on par with computers, they were already behind, and it's a bigger gap now).
And we wonder why software fails so often... You get the munchies, forget what you were doing, assume it must have been good because it seems to work!
no, we have crappy software because management doesn't smoke weed. they want software done yesterday with all the ideas they will tell you about tomorrow.
"The cyber security professionals that we are creating today have to make security invisible to the end user. "They have to make it inherent in the out-of-the-box product that you buy and the only way to do that is for us all to work together, industry, government and academia. We need to be partnering on this."
All this crap about "user awareness" is a dead end. It takes too much attention. The mess underneath needs to be fixed. It has to be automatic. (And don't claim that's impossible unless you've read up on SE Linux and NSA's work on secure systems._
The last high-level US Government professional to publicly point this out was Amit Yoran at Homeland Security. He named Microsoft as the problem. He was canned and replaced with a lobbyist.
No, he doesn't and you don't get it.
People need to be educated. People need to realize that being stupid on the internet, or with computers have a price.
Not to mention who implements and runs this "invisible security"? The gov? The corps? Microsoft?
No, sorry. We need to educate people about the need for security and how to implement it, not get someone else to take care of it so we can blindly go on our way.
When Garry played Deep Blue, it was understood that no parameters of the machine would be changed during game play. That turned out not to be the case, as the IBM programmers were tweaking things behind the scenes.
Had Garry known this, he might have played differently, not expecting the machine to make new/different moves than it had previously made, etc.
"it was understood" means someone assumed and didn't ask.
He's probably right. You should see what they did with Windows Phone 7; the protocol they speak over USB is encrypted, even though the protocol is known, and the data being transferred is usually also known. It has deep security.
Now, maybe they didn't leave it open specifically because they wanted people to write an open source driver, but if they had been serious about keeping it closed, they would have almost certainly given it a better attempt.
Windows 7 will be sending personal info between it and the computer, so it should be encrypted.
the Kinetic is a device for a video game console, encrypting it would be really stupid, imo.
It's equally likely neither Russia nor China would be very happy to see a nuclear Iran, but not want to be visibly seen discouraging them on the international stage. Stuxnet, lets either of them slow Iran's nuclear program, test a new concept of warfare, and leave the US and Israel holding the bad as "most likely." For them it's a win-win-win. Beyond that, intelligence orgainizations in the West now have a small taste of what someone else can do. It's going to keep the West in knots for a few years, hardening against "the last threat," while they've got the next threat now, and are working on the one beyond that.
i don't think russia cares, seeing as it helped get it working.
Because jails often can only hold people for one year. They give that extra day so he goes to prison instead of jail. ie. it's a worse punishment.
Actually, no, it's a more lenient sentence -- a year and a day means you're eligible for sentence reductions based on good behavior and the like; any less and you aren't.
I know in King County in washington state, the any sentence over a year (thus the year and a day) can go to prison, otherwise they have to stay in county jail.
Which if you've ever stayed in King County's jail in Seattle, you'd rather do the time in prison.
I'm really, really starting to get sick of "social networking" and all the crap that deals with it.
Is life so different now from 10, or even 5 years ago that we have to update everyone on what the fuck we are doing all the time?
Are we so shallow that we have to know whats going on with everyone we know all the time?
Can we not live our own lives without everyone comparing themselves to us, and us without comparing to them?
Am I cool because I have a facebook account, or am I cool because I don't use it?
Oh, i better go tweet I just farted, because the smithsonian is going to save all tweets for future generations to most likely, ignore.
Though, back in the 80's, when i was in high school, twitter would of been cool to know where all the parties were happening on the weekends, but that's about it. But even then, word of mouth is better.
How about more social responsibility and less social networking crap?
But I got tired of waiting and sold my PS3 on craigslist about 18 months ago. After my experience with the PS3 (way too expensive and did not deliver what I was expecting, particularly with game titles) I don't expect to purchase another Sony console anytime soon. It's too bad cause I was what you'd call a fanboi 3 years ago...
You sold it after they jailbroke it? wow, when it actually got good, you sold it.
I'm concerned with the idiotic requirement for HDCP equipped displays, even when running games.
I'd buy this in a heartbeat, but I'm not replacing my perfectly adequate 24" monitor because it was made six months before HDCP became widespread. Fuck Sony for all I care.
The HDCP is most likely to play Bluray's in the proper resolution. Seeing as most PS3 games don't even hit 720p resolution, seems sort of stupid.
Not to mention you can probably get a componet cable for the PS3 and they don't use HDCP at all.
Anecdotally, that would seem to be the case. A co-worker sat on a federal grand jury for a year....
I'm sorry, what does your co-worker have to do with this, besides sitting on a federal grand jury for a year (didn't the jury get tired of your co-worker sitting on them?).
Also, did he get paid for that year and did he get his job back at the end of the year?
What the hell were you charged with that your legal bills totaled up to six figures? I got charged with a felony in two different jurisdictions and had to deal with two different cases and my legal bills only came to around $8,000. Granted, we beat it BEFORE trial (thank god for the Grand Jury....) but it would not have accumulated to >$100,000 even if it had gone that far.
BTW, my lawyer saved my ass. I would not have walked away from my situation without a criminal record if I had tried to do it on my own. Don't trash the whole profession just because you hired a lousy legal team.
How do you know you needed a lawyer? Since you choose to pay for one, you don't know if a public defender would of been good enough, or if you would of been fine defending yourself.
that trial could of ended up a mistrial, or a number of things. You won't know because you didn't choose to go that way.
Don't make assumptions on stuff you actually have no idea because you choose not to do it that way.
Now if you said, "I probably would of ended up with a criminal record had I not paid for a lawyer" that would be acceptable. But you didn't.
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Wait... so the TSA caught the shoe bomber, therefore the TSA can't catch any terrorists?
We talking about the shoe bomber that was on the plane and tried to light the shoes/bombs on fire and was stopped by people on the plane?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_(shoe_bomber)
Ya, um, good luck trying to promote your take on it.
"all the Mac users I know have little understanding about hardware, nor do they care to know about the hardware."
Not having to care is liberating.
....
I'll bet it's liberating.
Probably feels good to know that you can easily get ripped off because you have no knowledge about the hardware, so you don't know exactly what your paying for or getting. Not to mention being overcharged for repairs because you have no clue.
You brought up cars today and not needing to know which sparkplug, etc. Well, mechanics have been ripping people off like you for a long time. why? because you don't bother to learn anything about your car, so you are subject to what they say, because you do NOT know better.
That makes you a very uninformed consumer. the type companies like, because they love to rip you off.
How about we just send these robots into battle and let the men remote control them?
Then we save lives, well, at least, lives of those who have robots to control.
Then next we can give the robots AI, and maybe a global network or something to control/run them.
Ya, like call it like horizonnet? hmm, groundnet? naw, spacenet?
I'm sure we can think of a good name.
What really makes me sad these days aren't so much the graphical sacrifices that PC gamers have to suffer from, its the control limitations. Whenever I play Mass Effect, I feel like punching the developers, because its perfectly clear that whomever designed it was only targeting console game play mechanics.
I agree. I hate over the shoulder games. In fact, some of them make me sick to my stomach (Dead Space is one that does that).
I think they don't want to have people think the game is a first person shooter, when in reality, that is what the game is.
WTF? He's talking about USB. As in physical interconnection between the phone and the PC. If someone has tapped into a USB link, they already have the physical access necessary to get at your data regardless.
By your absurd logic, the USB mass-storage protocols should be encrypted because you might transfer personal information to/from a USB disk.
I like how you say I'm suggesting this by my logic, yet I didn't say that at all.
I said a Windows 7 phone usb stuff should be encrypted because it can be sending confidental data, as in emails, text, etc.
He said, which i had quoted in my original post, that it was encrypted.
I never said I think everything usb should be encrypted, why you got that shows I guess, your lack of understanding, or comprehension.
The original point was that the kinetic usb protocals weren't encrypted, which the person thought should be, because the Windows 7 phones were.
I made a point that it makes sense for the windows 7 phones to have the encryption. Not for any other device. You added that in by yourself.
And no, I think encryption on any mass storage devices would be stupid, but on my G1 when I sync contacts and stuff? ya, i would expect that data to be encrypted no matter if I used usb, wifi, or over the air to sync them.
There's something to this as far as MMOs go. People like to talk about how MMOs tickle the reward centres of the brain with their level-up/upgrade cycles and so on, but I suspect that this wears thin fairly quickly. Certainly, as somebody who has been heavily "into" and then got out of two MMOs (FFXI and WoW) over the last year, the social side of the game has been the biggest deterrent to leaving.
MMOs, of course, get to sting you twice in this respect. Not only do you get a social circle within the game, but if you're not careful, they also start pulling you away from your real-life social circle.
....
Any social thing will do that.
Work, sports, etc.
The truth is, you need to decided how you spend your time, and who with.
I never got into going out with people i worked with for beers, or whatever. While I liked most the people good enough, they were work mates, not friends.
I play everquest 2 alot. I like the people in my guild, but in the game. I don't send them emails, text messages or anything else out of game.
Here's another shocker for you.
People that get married and have kids, start hanging out at home, with the sig other & the kids. OMG! Maybe we should do something about that!!!
but seriously, what we are talking about is peoples lack of control, not about anything bad happening.
When has anyone, especially Microsoft, ever cared about them?
What a completely uncalled for comment. When did Microsoft care for clueless home users? When half their market share was with clueless home users. When they implemented the UAC (the corporate world already knew to setup limited domain user accounts). When they came out with the free Microsoft Security Essentials, which was designed for home users. When they implemented automatic updates because clueless home users never applied service packs. Or maybe when they did a better job of locking down the default settings in the latest Windows/Internet Explorer.
Sure, they don't do a perfect job, as this case shows. But you will find privilege escalation bugs on most operating systems and Microsoft WILL come out with a patch to fix the bug. All the clueless home users have to do is wait for it to be automatically downloaded and applied.
MS only cares when something affects their bottom line. They, like most corporations, only care about profit.
Wake up and smell reality.
Think a lot of people are missing the point here.
They are talking about hardware, not what the current PC games compare to their console counter parts.
See, this is the problem. PC are capable of so more, yet we get a dumbed down console port instead of a game tailored to the extra stuff modern PC's can bring you.
Most PS3 & 360 games are barely 720p, usually less. Crappy AA on them, etc.
Modern PC can do the 1080p, max AA and not break a sweet. And not break your bank. Get a Nvidia 460 1gb card for $200 and you got yourself a nice card that kicks ass.
And yes, I'm a gamer. Been so for 30+ years. I prefer my PC for gaming (even got me 3D Vision, which rocks), but I do have a Xbox 360 (jtag'd), a Wii (softmodded) and will have a PS3 whenever I get enough money for it (ya, and I'll hack it also, because that's how i roll).
It's funny, because I remember when arcade games were the better graphics systems, and computers & consoles tried to be that good. Then the computers surpassed both the consoles & arcade games. And we, the computer gamers have been paying for it ever since.
(sorry, when the PS3 & 360 game out, their graphics weren't really on par with computers, they were already behind, and it's a bigger gap now).
Look the opt out won't work.
You want this to change? Stop flying and let the airlines know why.
When they start losing customers, they'll bitch, and lobby, and suddenly, you won't see the machines and screeners like you did.
And we wonder why software fails so often... You get the munchies, forget what you were doing, assume it must have been good because it seems to work!
no, we have crappy software because management doesn't smoke weed. they want software done yesterday with all the ideas they will tell you about tomorrow.
This guy gets it:
"The cyber security professionals that we are creating today have to make security invisible to the end user. "They have to make it inherent in the out-of-the-box product that you buy and the only way to do that is for us all to work together, industry, government and academia. We need to be partnering on this."
All this crap about "user awareness" is a dead end. It takes too much attention. The mess underneath needs to be fixed. It has to be automatic. (And don't claim that's impossible unless you've read up on SE Linux and NSA's work on secure systems._
The last high-level US Government professional to publicly point this out was Amit Yoran at Homeland Security. He named Microsoft as the problem. He was canned and replaced with a lobbyist.
No, he doesn't and you don't get it.
People need to be educated. People need to realize that being stupid on the internet, or with computers have a price.
Not to mention who implements and runs this "invisible security"? The gov? The corps? Microsoft?
No, sorry. We need to educate people about the need for security and how to implement it, not get someone else to take care of it so we can blindly go on our way.
Next time, take a broken hard drive with you. That will give them a challenge. :-)
ooh, great idea, i have some harddrives that don't boot up anymore, maybe they'll fix them for me to get at the data...
When Garry played Deep Blue, it was understood that no parameters of the machine would be changed during game play. That turned out not to be the case, as the IBM programmers were tweaking things behind the scenes.
Had Garry known this, he might have played differently, not expecting the machine to make new/different moves than it had previously made, etc.
"it was understood" means someone assumed and didn't ask.
He's probably right. You should see what they did with Windows Phone 7; the protocol they speak over USB is encrypted, even though the protocol is known, and the data being transferred is usually also known. It has deep security.
Now, maybe they didn't leave it open specifically because they wanted people to write an open source driver, but if they had been serious about keeping it closed, they would have almost certainly given it a better attempt.
Windows 7 will be sending personal info between it and the computer, so it should be encrypted.
the Kinetic is a device for a video game console, encrypting it would be really stupid, imo.
Your comparing apple and oranges.
need I say more?
Much like lawyers win with suing, Corporations win with politicians. Meaning, it don't matter who you vote for, the corporations win either way.
It's equally likely neither Russia nor China would be very happy to see a nuclear Iran, but not want to be visibly seen discouraging them on the international stage. Stuxnet, lets either of them slow Iran's nuclear program, test a new concept of warfare, and leave the US and Israel holding the bad as "most likely." For them it's a win-win-win. Beyond that, intelligence orgainizations in the West now have a small taste of what someone else can do. It's going to keep the West in knots for a few years, hardening against "the last threat," while they've got the next threat now, and are working on the one beyond that.
i don't think russia cares, seeing as it helped get it working.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant
Actually, no, it's a more lenient sentence -- a year and a day means you're eligible for sentence reductions based on good behavior and the like; any less and you aren't.
I know in King County in washington state, the any sentence over a year (thus the year and a day) can go to prison, otherwise they have to stay in county jail.
Which if you've ever stayed in King County's jail in Seattle, you'd rather do the time in prison.
My Operating Systems instructor ....
You have a what?
Seriously, is that a title you can get?
I'm really, really starting to get sick of "social networking" and all the crap that deals with it.
Is life so different now from 10, or even 5 years ago that we have to update everyone on what the fuck we are doing all the time?
Are we so shallow that we have to know whats going on with everyone we know all the time?
Can we not live our own lives without everyone comparing themselves to us, and us without comparing to them?
Am I cool because I have a facebook account, or am I cool because I don't use it?
Oh, i better go tweet I just farted, because the smithsonian is going to save all tweets for future generations to most likely, ignore.
Though, back in the 80's, when i was in high school, twitter would of been cool to know where all the parties were happening on the weekends, but that's about it. But even then, word of mouth is better.
How about more social responsibility and less social networking crap?
But I got tired of waiting and sold my PS3 on craigslist about 18 months ago. After my experience with the PS3 (way too expensive and did not deliver what I was expecting, particularly with game titles) I don't expect to purchase another Sony console anytime soon. It's too bad cause I was what you'd call a fanboi 3 years ago...
You sold it after they jailbroke it? wow, when it actually got good, you sold it.
I'm concerned with the idiotic requirement for HDCP equipped displays, even when running games.
I'd buy this in a heartbeat, but I'm not replacing my perfectly adequate 24" monitor because it was made six months before HDCP became widespread. Fuck Sony for all I care.
The HDCP is most likely to play Bluray's in the proper resolution. Seeing as most PS3 games don't even hit 720p resolution, seems sort of stupid.
Not to mention you can probably get a componet cable for the PS3 and they don't use HDCP at all.
I no longer buy new games since Sony blocked new games to work on PS3s running Linux (I'm stuck in firmware 3.15). Take that, you greedy overlords!
If you really wanted to show them, you'd jailbreak it, download the game, and play it on your 3.15 PS3 anyways.
Anecdotally, that would seem to be the case. A co-worker sat on a federal grand jury for a year....
I'm sorry, what does your co-worker have to do with this, besides sitting on a federal grand jury for a year (didn't the jury get tired of your co-worker sitting on them?).
Also, did he get paid for that year and did he get his job back at the end of the year?
What the hell were you charged with that your legal bills totaled up to six figures? I got charged with a felony in two different jurisdictions and had to deal with two different cases and my legal bills only came to around $8,000. Granted, we beat it BEFORE trial (thank god for the Grand Jury....) but it would not have accumulated to >$100,000 even if it had gone that far.
BTW, my lawyer saved my ass. I would not have walked away from my situation without a criminal record if I had tried to do it on my own. Don't trash the whole profession just because you hired a lousy legal team.
How do you know you needed a lawyer? Since you choose to pay for one, you don't know if a public defender would of been good enough, or if you would of been fine defending yourself.
that trial could of ended up a mistrial, or a number of things. You won't know because you didn't choose to go that way.
Don't make assumptions on stuff you actually have no idea because you choose not to do it that way.
Now if you said, "I probably would of ended up with a criminal record had I not paid for a lawyer" that would be acceptable. But you didn't.