Did you finish reading the parent's post? He wasn't saying "OMG teh mini is smaller it's better!!!1!1!" He was saying.... well, go read it. He says it about as simply as I could.
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If I were to take the Apple engineers' salary into account, I'd have billed Kevin for the time he spent working on this project. I'm sure that would have brought the grand total up to about $2500.
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Mac mini looks great, but it'd be even greater if it used standard PC components.
If Dell/HP/et al had built a cheap, tiny machine like the mini, all of my friends would say "If that ran Mac OS X, I'd be all over it."
Clearly we're on polar opposites as far as the crowds we hang around with.:)
Second, it's ridiculous to compare production costs of a corporation with homebrew assemblies of non-commodity parts
When it was first announced and the first reaction was how cheap it was, the backlash consisted of a lot of "You can built a more powerful system yourself for $200" responses. (that all fell short in one way or another, I might add) Now that the shoe's on the other foot, it's "ridiculous".
-- Apple will buy bulk and get better prices even if you used the same freaking parts, were all of them available.
And then more than make up for it with their profit margins. Your point?
It's about the satisfaction of doing something with your own hands, the harder the better. Just because from your chair you don't see a point does not mean there's none.
Hard work done for the sake of hard work is the same as pushing a boulder up a hill. Sure, you might enjoy the exercise. Personally, I'd rather use the crane to move the boulder up and then get my exercise doing something that has more benefit in other areas at the same time.
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What did it cost him to put a PC into the space Apple engineers er...engineered so precisely for their own hardware?
- Wireless - Bluetooth - Optical drive - Probable heating issues later - SODIMM slots = more expensive RAM - OS X, iLife, etc.
Also, Rose doesn't mention the cost of his parts, but I'd guess that, for the specs of the baseline mini even without the optical drive it would likely come to WELL over $500. That mobo in particular looks to be fairly pricey.
I'm not asking "What's the point?" but rather, saying "There is no point." This is just a geek's homebrew project, and a waste of a perfectly good Mac mini.
Yeah, I've noticed there are a few camps in this debate:
1) one-button mice make a good default because geeks will upgrade anyway. 2) Everyone understands the right click, so why not ship with one?
And then there's me. I happen to *like* my single button trackpad. I have a fancy Microsoft 5-button mouse that works like a charm sitting next to me. I haven't plugged it in since the WoW beta.
For gaming, multibutton mice are kings. But in the real world, I've found that you don't ever need more than one button unless the interface was poorly designed.
SD cards are my favorite, especially that one SanDisk (I think) is supposed to be coming out with next month that's a combo SD/USB drive. Really slick.
I got a chance to play with a friend's NeXTStep 3.0 box tonight, and fiddling around in the OS, I was quite amazed with how similar it is to modern day OS X, despite being over a decade old. A few things that were damn near identical that come to mind: - the color picker (except for the fact that it was a grayscale monitor) - Interface Builder - Terminal.app is dead-on, except in his NeXT it took me a couple of tries to get an actual prompt to come up - Drag and drop everywhere - The beachball when an app is loading
And when I saw Jobs demo the WordPerfect, I thought, "So what's the big deal about Pages again?"
Firewire and USB external DVD writers are not supported natively by iDVD
From what I hear, iDVD '05 has improved the compatibility issues with DVD burners. I know for sure you can export a project to a disk image, so worst case, you can do that and just burn the image. Plus, if you want a DVD burner, you're supposed to just get that built-in. The GP was referring mainly to things you can't get BTO, I think - stuff like huge hard drives, etc.
Yeah, you can, but you void your warranty and it takes two putty knives and some good luck to open the case.
It doesn't void your warranty unless you break something in the process. And it's too early to say for sure, but I don't think "luck" has a lot to do with it - I haven't yet heard a "I broke my mini by opening it up" story, but have heard several success stories.
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I don't think there's a single browser that renders every standards-compliant page correctly. Firefox comes close, as do most non-IE browsers. But yes, they are all slightly different.
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You need to do this if you want to be able to Remove the Kiddie Gloves and let Firefox allow you to run EXE files you've downloaded out of the browser cache--with a warning of course--so that they are deleted automatically, rather than saving them to a specific folder where you'd have to delete them later.
Isn't this the sort of thing people switch to Firefox to AVOID? Warning or no, most people click past those without reading them.
1) custom built machines 2) people who upgraded from 98 or ME 3) people who lost their original CD and need to reinstall the OS - and I think this is a HUGE one
Off the top of my head, that's a fair portion of computers users who would have to either pirate or buy another license. In the case of #3, another license to software they legitimately own anyway! Pretty easy to justify piracy in that case.
I think most of the "let it die!" crowd has either never seen the third season - IMHO one of the best seasons of any scifi show, ever, including any single season of Farscape - or is so obsessed with continuity that any deviation from the previously established universe is heresy.
Well, how crappy, bland, and predictable do you think the show would be if everything went exactly as foretold? It'd be a challenge to get a single decent season out of that setup. And I do agree that neither of the first two seasons, where they tried this formula, were particularly good.
Rather than looking at the downside of the lack of continuity, consider the upside - there's now a possibilty for an "alternate" future, where the temporal war has changed things. Will this wind up being for the better or worse? Who knows!
DON'T TAKE THE TREK UNIVERSE TOO SERIOUSLY. When you get your panties in a wad anytime creative liberties are taken, you'll lead a very unpleasant life in your parents' basement.
The GP was using the word "ironically" to reference the part of the post where that word was used without saying "the story about QWERTY being designed to slow down typists isn't true".
RTFA. Or, barring that, at least read the first few comments.
No energy is "blasted" anywhere. It's a pad with a zillion tiny connectors that you set your phone on. Pretty stupid, really.
However, for the hypothetical Tesla-coil ish "blaster" to recharge your phone, all you need to do would be to make the charger smarter, like via bluetooth - if there's no phone nearby, turn off.
You are not giving the OP what he wants - that's a full-sized tower. He wants something as small as a mini which, at that price point, basically doesn't exist.
I really want to find a use for the mini (besides being a cool gadget) but in the end I'll probably buy it for my parents so that I can use it ocassionaly and satisfy my curiosity.
And slowly become addicted to OS X.... >:)
Why, when it comes to Macs, nobody cares about games?
As I understand it, you're suggesting that the Mac market for games is as limited as the Linux market. And to that I say: World of Warcraft.:P There aren't as many games as Windows, but there are a hell of a lot more for Mac OS than Linux.
Pixlet is lossless, and the file sizes show it. It's meant for clips to be stored on the backend, as opposed to the delivery to consumers.
No, what Apple will deliver the content in is h.264, an open standard the allows HD at the same quality and the same bitrate as current codecs with normal-def.
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Did you finish reading the parent's post? He wasn't saying "OMG teh mini is smaller it's better!!!1!1!" He was saying.... well, go read it. He says it about as simply as I could.
You could do a home lobotomy?
Impressive.
If I were to take the Apple engineers' salary into account, I'd have billed Kevin for the time he spent working on this project. I'm sure that would have brought the grand total up to about $2500.
Mac mini looks great, but it'd be even greater if it used standard PC components.
:)
If Dell/HP/et al had built a cheap, tiny machine like the mini, all of my friends would say "If that ran Mac OS X, I'd be all over it."
Clearly we're on polar opposites as far as the crowds we hang around with.
Me: This is just a geek's homebrew project....
You: You seem to be missing the point...
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Second, it's ridiculous to compare production costs of a corporation with homebrew assemblies of non-commodity parts
When it was first announced and the first reaction was how cheap it was, the backlash consisted of a lot of "You can built a more powerful system yourself for $200" responses. (that all fell short in one way or another, I might add) Now that the shoe's on the other foot, it's "ridiculous".
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Apple will buy bulk and get better prices even if you used the same freaking parts, were all of them available.
And then more than make up for it with their profit margins. Your point?
It's about the satisfaction of doing something with your own hands, the harder the better. Just because from your chair you don't see a point does not mean there's none.
Hard work done for the sake of hard work is the same as pushing a boulder up a hill. Sure, you might enjoy the exercise. Personally, I'd rather use the crane to move the boulder up and then get my exercise doing something that has more benefit in other areas at the same time.
What did it cost him to put a PC into the space Apple engineers er...engineered so precisely for their own hardware?
- Wireless
- Bluetooth
- Optical drive
- Probable heating issues later
- SODIMM slots = more expensive RAM
- OS X, iLife, etc.
Also, Rose doesn't mention the cost of his parts, but I'd guess that, for the specs of the baseline mini even without the optical drive it would likely come to WELL over $500. That mobo in particular looks to be fairly pricey.
I'm not asking "What's the point?" but rather, saying "There is no point." This is just a geek's homebrew project, and a waste of a perfectly good Mac mini.
Yeah, I've noticed there are a few camps in this debate:
1) one-button mice make a good default because geeks will upgrade anyway.
2) Everyone understands the right click, so why not ship with one?
And then there's me. I happen to *like* my single button trackpad. I have a fancy Microsoft 5-button mouse that works like a charm sitting next to me. I haven't plugged it in since the WoW beta.
For gaming, multibutton mice are kings. But in the real world, I've found that you don't ever need more than one button unless the interface was poorly designed.
I dunno, CF cards feel cheap and plasticky to me.
All a matter of taste I suppose.
SD cards are my favorite, especially that one SanDisk (I think) is supposed to be coming out with next month that's a combo SD/USB drive. Really slick.
He says "Blammo" at about 10:45. I'm still looking for the "boom" though.
I got a chance to play with a friend's NeXTStep 3.0 box tonight, and fiddling around in the OS, I was quite amazed with how similar it is to modern day OS X, despite being over a decade old. A few things that were damn near identical that come to mind:
- the color picker (except for the fact that it was a grayscale monitor)
- Interface Builder
- Terminal.app is dead-on, except in his NeXT it took me a couple of tries to get an actual prompt to come up
- Drag and drop everywhere
- The beachball when an app is loading
And when I saw Jobs demo the WordPerfect, I thought, "So what's the big deal about Pages again?"
AIM = AOL IM
:)
GNU = GNU's Not Unix (and many other recursive acronyms)
To name a few
Firewire and USB external DVD writers are not supported natively by iDVD
From what I hear, iDVD '05 has improved the compatibility issues with DVD burners. I know for sure you can export a project to a disk image, so worst case, you can do that and just burn the image. Plus, if you want a DVD burner, you're supposed to just get that built-in. The GP was referring mainly to things you can't get BTO, I think - stuff like huge hard drives, etc.
Yeah, you can, but you void your warranty and it takes two putty knives and some good luck to open the case.
It doesn't void your warranty unless you break something in the process. And it's too early to say for sure, but I don't think "luck" has a lot to do with it - I haven't yet heard a "I broke my mini by opening it up" story, but have heard several success stories.
I don't think there's a single browser that renders every standards-compliant page correctly. Firefox comes close, as do most non-IE browsers. But yes, they are all slightly different.
You need to do this if you want to be able to Remove the Kiddie Gloves and let Firefox allow you to run EXE files you've downloaded out of the browser cache--with a warning of course--so that they are deleted automatically, rather than saving them to a specific folder where you'd have to delete them later.
Isn't this the sort of thing people switch to Firefox to AVOID? Warning or no, most people click past those without reading them.
1) custom built machines
2) people who upgraded from 98 or ME
3) people who lost their original CD and need to reinstall the OS - and I think this is a HUGE one
Off the top of my head, that's a fair portion of computers users who would have to either pirate or buy another license. In the case of #3, another license to software they legitimately own anyway! Pretty easy to justify piracy in that case.
That's like saying you couldn't make a movie about the second world war because you know how it ends (Hello private ryan!)
FWIW, I found Saving Private Ryan to be a pretty bland movie...
I agree.
I think most of the "let it die!" crowd has either never seen the third season - IMHO one of the best seasons of any scifi show, ever, including any single season of Farscape - or is so obsessed with continuity that any deviation from the previously established universe is heresy.
Well, how crappy, bland, and predictable do you think the show would be if everything went exactly as foretold? It'd be a challenge to get a single decent season out of that setup. And I do agree that neither of the first two seasons, where they tried this formula, were particularly good.
Rather than looking at the downside of the lack of continuity, consider the upside - there's now a possibilty for an "alternate" future, where the temporal war has changed things. Will this wind up being for the better or worse? Who knows!
DON'T TAKE THE TREK UNIVERSE TOO SERIOUSLY. When you get your panties in a wad anytime creative liberties are taken, you'll lead a very unpleasant life in your parents' basement.
OK, rant over. Flame on.
The GP was using the word "ironically" to reference the part of the post where that word was used without saying "the story about QWERTY being designed to slow down typists isn't true".
Clever, if you ask me.
If you use the phrase "internal English parser", there's good good chance yours needs to be worked on ;-)
Sorry if I don't follow your logic here, but what's the difference?
RTFA.
Or, barring that, at least read the first few comments.
No energy is "blasted" anywhere. It's a pad with a zillion tiny connectors that you set your phone on. Pretty stupid, really.
However, for the hypothetical Tesla-coil ish "blaster" to recharge your phone, all you need to do would be to make the charger smarter, like via bluetooth - if there's no phone nearby, turn off.
You are not giving the OP what he wants - that's a full-sized tower. He wants something as small as a mini which, at that price point, basically doesn't exist.
:P There aren't as many games as Windows, but there are a hell of a lot more for Mac OS than Linux.
I really want to find a use for the mini (besides being a cool gadget) but in the end I'll probably buy it for my parents so that I can use it ocassionaly and satisfy my curiosity.
And slowly become addicted to OS X.... >:)
Why, when it comes to Macs, nobody cares about games?
As I understand it, you're suggesting that the Mac market for games is as limited as the Linux market. And to that I say: World of Warcraft.
Yeah, that.
Thanks for the clarification.
Pixlet is lossless, and the file sizes show it. It's meant for clips to be stored on the backend, as opposed to the delivery to consumers.
No, what Apple will deliver the content in is h.264, an open standard the allows HD at the same quality and the same bitrate as current codecs with normal-def.
Bluetooth + Bluetooth phone + Salling Clicker = remote.