But you'd also expect to hear stories like this, if there weren't flying saucers.
The testimony isn't in itself enough to distinguish between the two states.
Hmmm.. yes and no. I definitely understand your point but personally I would not expect stories like these from these kind of people. I know this still testimony, but they've got a lot to loose given their status, reputation, background, etc.
Also, some of them do have material like RADAR logs, etc. which support their stories.
Am I totally 100% convinced? Hmm, no.. but I am leaning towards it because, as I mentioned, these people are willing to testify under oath before Congress.. so I assume they have a pretty good case together.
Let me also give it another perspective:
If all these people testified against me in a court case for a serious crime, I am quite likely to get the death penalty. (assuming that's possible in the given state, etc. etc.)
If it's good enough to rule over life and death, it's good enough for me to lean towards proof.
Finally:
I list names here, but there's some very intriguing physical evidence in the form of RADAR logs, but also e.g. radiation measurements made at locations where objects have supposedly landed.
If one took the time to bring all the evidence together in a serious, scientific report, one can arrive at the point of having an extremely solid case.
If I recall correctly from a few days ago, the following website had a nice collection of papers describing all kinds of evidence. I cannot get it to load at the moment, but here's the link:
Oh this is not garbage, but not definite proof either.
These highly trained people who often had high security clearances do tell very interesting stories about hundreds of people at an air force base seeing very unusual objects both visually and on radar. And they often have the material to proof it.
And they all want to tell their stories under _oath_ before Congress. Lying before Congress equals 15 years in jail.. do you really think that these people are kidding? that they really haven't thought about this issue very long and hard? They're risking their reputation, careers, etc.
I know a lot of 'funny' stuff happened in e.g. The Cold Ware, but do not forget that the UFO phenomenon displays performance levels that are not a tiny bit better than what he have, but _magnitudes_ better. It's like they have taken the US Air Force motto of "No one comes close" and are making fun of it at every encounter.
I'm not saying these things are vehicles of green men, or grey or whatever.. I am saying that there's enough proof that UFOs are real.
And the U does stand for 'unidentified', so I'm not saying 'flying saucer', 'vehicle', etc.. I'm saying _something_ is doing amazing things in the air, under water and in orbit and the people above are thinking the same thing.
Mods, please forgive me for double posting the list of names.
The reason that I do this that, if the following people are hallucinating, we do have a significant problem recruiting and selecting people who command nuclear installations, aircraft carriers and so on.
Now if the following people are seeing things, often together with dozens of other people at their locations is one thing.
If SAC people start seeing things visually, and on radar, and at the same time all 10 missile missile silo's shutdown, while each is equipped with a triple redundant power system, you can tell there's something really really odd going on.
All the more if another base 50 miles further sees the same thing and experiences the same technological failures.
People here working with high-availability and high-reliability can surely appreciate that I'd say..
If both people and machines are hallucinating on that level and on this scale, I'm surprised that we are still alive at all!
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lt. Col. Charles Brown: US Air Force (Ret.); "Dr. B"; Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt: US Marine Corps; Maj. George A. Filer, III: US Air Force (Ret.); Nick Pope: British Ministry of Defense Official; Larry Warren: US Air Force, Security Officer; Sgt. Clifford Stone: US Army; Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative; A.H.: Boeing Aerospace Employee; Officer Alan Godfrey: British Police; Sgt. Karl Wolf: US Air Force; Ms. Donna Hare: NASA Employee; Mr. John Maynard: DIA Official; Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer; Glen Dennis: NM UFO Crash Witness; Sgt. Leonard Pretko: US Air Force; Dr. Roberto Pinotti: Italian UFO expert; Dr. Paul Czysz: McDonnell Douglas Career Engineer; Astronaut Edgar Mitchell; John Callahan: FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations; Michael Smith: US Air Force Radar Controller; Franklin Carter: US Navy Radar Technician; Neil Daniels: United Airlines Pilot; Lt. Frederick Fox: US Navy Pilot; Captain Robert Salas: US Air Force, SAC Launch Controller; Prof. Robert Jacobs: US Air Force; Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; James Kopf: US Navy Crypto Communications
Witness Testimony Overview
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell: May 1998; Monsignor Corrado Balducci: September 2000
Radar and Pilot Cases
FAA Division Chief John Callahan; Sgt. Chuck Sorrells: US Air Force (ret.); Mr. Michael W. Smith: US Air Force; Commander Graham Bethune: US Navy (ret.); Mr. Enrique Kolbeck: Senior Air Traffic Controller; Dr. Richard Haines; Mr. Franklin Carter: US Navy; Neil Daniels: Airline Pilot; Sgt. Robert Blazina (ret.); Lieutenant Frederick Marshall Fox: US Navy (ret.); Captain Massimo Poggi; Lt. Bob Walker: US Army; Mr. Don Bockelman: US Army
SAC/Nuke
Captain Robert Salas; Professor Robert Jacobs: Lt. US Air Force; Lt. Colonel Dwynne Arneson: US Air Force (ret.); Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/AEC (ret.); Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; Mr. James Kopf: US Navy/ National Security Agency; Lieutenant Colonel Joe Wojtecki, US Air Force; Staff Sergeant Stoney Campbell: US Air Force
Government Insiders/ NASA/ Deep Insiders
Astronaut Gordon Cooper; Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown: US Air Force (ret.); Dr. Carol Rosin; ÃoeDr. B.Ã; Lance Corporal John Weygandt: U.S. Marine Corps; Major A. Filer III: U.S. Air Force; Mr. Nick Pope: British Ministry Of Defense; Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: Five-Star Admiral, Former Head of the British Ministry of Defense; Security Officer Larry Warren: United States Air Force; Captain Lori Rehfeldt; Sergeant Clifford Stone: United States Army; Major-General Vasily Alexeyev: Russian Air Force; Master Sergeant Dan Morris: US Air Force/NRO Operative (ret.); Mr. Don Phillips: Lockheed Skunkworks, USAF, and CIA Contractor; Captain
"During the discussion of UFOs, the question, ultimately, is going to come up, can any government keep secrets, let alone the U.S. Government? And the answer to that is unequivocally yes. But one of the greatest weapons the intelligence community has at their disposal is a predisposition by the American people, the American politicians and the debunkers â" people who wish to try to debunk UFO information. They immediately come out and say, oh, we canâ(TM)t keep secrets, we canâ(TM)t keep secrets. Well, the truth is, yes, we can.
"The National Reconnaissance Office remained secret for many, many years. The mere existence of the NSA remained secret. The development of the atomic weapon remained secret until once you exploded one you eventually had to tell some people what was going on.
"And we are conditioned by our own paradigms not to accept the possibility or probability of a highly advanced intelligent civilization coming here to visit us. You have evidence in the form of highly credible reports of objects being seen, of the entities inside these objects being seen. Yet, we look for a prosaic explanation and we throw out the bits and pieces of the evidence that doesn't meet our paradigm. So it is a self-keeping secret. You can conceal it in plain sight. It is political suicide to go and start hitting up intelligence agencies to get this information released. So, most of your members of Congress, and I know Iâ(TM)ve worked with a lot of them along that line, will balk and try not to do it. I can name you three members of Congress that were point blank asked to have a congressional inquiry on what happened here at Roswellâ¦
"We have got to get the documentation as it exists in the Government files. We have got to get it released before it ultimately is destroyed. A good example is the Blue Fly and Moon Dust files. I had classified documents the Air Force acknowledged. When I got members of Congress to help me open up more files, they were immediately destroyed and I can prove this.
"Somewhere along the line, they may see that material and realize there is some very highly sensitive information that would have a damning effect upon the national security of United States should it become compromised. It needs to be further protected, to insure that there is only a limited access to that information to a small number of people. So small you can put them on a list of paper, on a piece of paper, and list them by name. Thus, you have the special access programs. The controls that were supposed to be put on the special access programs are not there. When Congress did their review of the way we protect documents, and the way we go ahead and implement our secrecy programs, they found that you had special access programs within special access programs â" that is was essentially impossible to keep control of them all by Congress. And, Iâ(TM)m telling you right now; it is essentially impossible to keep control of them all.
"When it comes to UFOs, the same criteria applies. Therefore, only a small nucleus within the intelligence community, numbering less than a hundred * no, Iâ(TM)d suggest less than 50 * control all that information. It is not subject to congressional review or oversight at all. So, Congress needs to go ahead and ask the hard questions and convene a hearing."
Keeping a secret can be done rather effectively via compartmentalizations.
The Manhattan project was kept a secret, even though somewhere around 100,000 people worked on it. And some secrets from the Cold War are only starting to become public just in recent years.
Just think what they would be able to keep secret with something that has an even higher security classification than the Manhattan project.
There are various Disclosure Project witnesses who tell how the secrets are being kept. Check Google video / YouTube for this material. ]
Assuming they've made it here, you can assume that they're very advanced technologically wise.
When I see your point made, I always have to think about Star Trek, I believe it was one of the movies from the last decade, where the some kind of federation research team had a observatory (overlooking a small town) in a cave I believe with some kind of cloaking before/around it.
Perhaps they're even millions of years ahead of us, so if they are here, I bet they can accomplish pretty much anything that suits their agenda.
The result of that project itself are also interesting:
The jagged red line shows the accumulating excess of the empirically normalized Z-scores relative to expectation for the complete dataset of rigorously defined events. The overall result is highly significant. The odds against chance are about a million to one.
Also various organizations with three letters have been doing research on this for decades now.
Do you really think they're just doing that because they are bored? If nothing has been found that is statistically significant, they would have quit after 1,2,5 years or so.
Let me post that list again of people who would really like to TESTIFY UNDER OATH before Congress: (and risk 15 years in jail if lying!). Mitchell is in good company with people who have very solid track records!
The world is more than ready to hear the truth once and for all so that we come put an end to these perpetuating dichotomies between 'believers' and 'skeptics'.
We don't need all the military, sensitive details and stuff: just a YES or NO, what they look like and their intentions.
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lt. Col. Charles Brown: US Air Force (Ret.); "Dr. B"; Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt: US Marine Corps; Maj. George A. Filer, III: US Air Force (Ret.); Nick Pope: British Ministry of Defense Official; Larry Warren: US Air Force, Security Officer; Sgt. Clifford Stone: US Army; Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative; A.H.: Boeing Aerospace Employee; Officer Alan Godfrey: British Police; Sgt. Karl Wolf: US Air Force; Ms. Donna Hare: NASA Employee; Mr. John Maynard: DIA Official; Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer; Glen Dennis: NM UFO Crash Witness; Sgt. Leonard Pretko: US Air Force; Dr. Roberto Pinotti: Italian UFO expert; Dr. Paul Czysz: McDonnell Douglas Career Engineer; Astronaut Edgar Mitchell; John Callahan: FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations; Michael Smith: US Air Force Radar Controller; Franklin Carter: US Navy Radar Technician; Neil Daniels: United Airlines Pilot; Lt. Frederick Fox: US Navy Pilot; Captain Robert Salas: US Air Force, SAC Launch Controller; Prof. Robert Jacobs: US Air Force; Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; James Kopf: US Navy Crypto Communications
Witness Testimony Overview
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell: May 1998; Monsignor Corrado Balducci: September 2000
Radar and Pilot Cases
FAA Division Chief John Callahan; Sgt. Chuck Sorrells: US Air Force (ret.); Mr. Michael W. Smith: US Air Force; Commander Graham Bethune: US Navy (ret.); Mr. Enrique Kolbeck: Senior Air Traffic Controller; Dr. Richard Haines; Mr. Franklin Carter: US Navy; Neil Daniels: Airline Pilot; Sgt. Robert Blazina (ret.); Lieutenant Frederick Marshall Fox: US Navy (ret.); Captain Massimo Poggi; Lt. Bob Walker: US Army; Mr. Don Bockelman: US Army
SAC/Nuke
Captain Robert Salas; Professor Robert Jacobs: Lt. US Air Force; Lt. Colonel Dwynne Arneson: US Air Force (ret.); Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/AEC (ret.); Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; Mr. James Kopf: US Navy/ National Security Agency; Lieutenant Colonel Joe Wojtecki, US Air Force; Staff Sergeant Stoney Campbell: US Air Force
Government Insiders/ NASA/ Deep Insiders
Astronaut Gordon Cooper; Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown: US Air Force (ret.); Dr. Carol Rosin; âoeDr. B.â; Lance Corporal John Weygandt: U.S. Marine Corps; Major A. Filer III: U.S. Air Force; Mr. Nick Pope: British Ministry Of Defense; Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: Five-Star Admiral, Former Head of the British Ministry of Defense; Security Officer Larry Warren: United States Air Force; Captain Lori Rehfeldt; Sergeant Clifford Stone: United States Army; Major-General Vasily Alexeyev: Russian Air Force; Master Sergeant Dan Morris: US Air Force/NRO Operative (ret.); Mr. Don Phillips: Lockheed Skunkworks, USAF, and CIA Contractor; Captain Bill Uhouse: US Marine Corps (ret.); Lieutenant Colonel John Williams: US Air Force (ret.); Mr. Don Johnson; A.H.: Boeing Aerospace, December 2000; British Police Officer Alan Godfrey; Mr. Gordon Creighton: Former British Foreign Service Official; Sergeant Karl Wolfe: US Air Force; Donna Hare: Former NASA Employee; Mr. John Maynard: Defense Intelligence Agency (ret.); Mr. Harland Bentley: US Army; Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer, ; Dr. Alfred Webre: Senior Policy Analyst Stanford Research
Like almost all humans, they would buy a bigger house, better food, and more toys until they needed to work more than 10 hours a week. People consume to the extent of their resources and then want just a little more.
Ehmm, no, not always.
I live on my own, have a nice apartment in the center of a middle-sized city in W. Europe (rent). I am insured (health care + few other required things) I eat biological food, have plenty of gadgets (e.g. MacBook, mp3 player etc, few USB disks, 2 other computers), wear pretty nice clothing of good quality, I save about 20% of my monthly income.
I do however not own a car. I cycle to work (10 mins). and do all my groceries around in nearby streets. Other things: public transport or renting a car.
The crux?
I work 3 days per week.
Why do I not work longer?
Well, 4 days per week would be ideal, but I work to live and not vice versa.
I want to learn, read, do cool things, invent, etc.
The rat race is IMHO to a large extend a phenomenon consisting of people making each other crazy. Either by wanting more and more stuff, which is often useless anyway or by bad planning at the company ('what? you want software projects for customer X, Y and Z done in 2 days? Get real!')
So I think what you stated is not necessarily true. Generally it is though.:)
JAPANESE STEP BY STEP was written by a former IBM engineer. He applied tech-manual principles to the organization and presentation of the inner workings of the Japanese language. The author makes heavy use of logic flow charts to show how Japanese verbs are conjugated, and how present, negative, past and past-negative tenses are developed. He also presents five basic sentence patterns to be used as building blocks for more complex and compound sentences. And, the roman-alphabet representations of Japanese use CAPITAL letters to show the raised pitch accent.
And as a programmer, I personally like the flow chart programming approach.:)
I believe the late Terence McKenna said that it was basically the fact that drugs break down boundaries that makes it threatening to ehmm.. certain 'cultural values' and 'power structures' (politics, religion, etc.).
An interesting point that he raises is that drugs that make us more productive 'in the factory', like coffee/caffeine, are promoted, while drugs that bring us 'as close as possible to the Bardo while still being able to return' (paraphrase) are not promoted at all.
Think DMT: our bodies produce it naturally(!), it's not addictive and it brings out the wildest psychedelic properties. It is however one of the most illegal substances known to man...
I'm not sure in which video this was mentioned, but probably 'The World and its Double'. I've got no time to find the exact fragment, but I believe it was in one of the following videos which are great anyway!
Slashdot Mirror
Is that a deliberate pun on 'remember'? :?
"As an added bonus, most yoga classes are full of chicks."
"The notion is that if you satisfy your body's needs, it will hush up and let you think"
Hmmm.....somewhere there's a witty remark in there *ponders*
UFOs exist, by definition.
I'm personally not saying that they are alien visitors, because UFO != alien spacecraft
And there are some extremely solid cases of UFOs in our skies that are doing some extremely miraculous things. :)
Hmmm.. yes and no. I definitely understand your point but personally I would not expect stories like these from these kind of people. I know this still testimony, but they've got a lot to loose given their status, reputation, background, etc.
Also, some of them do have material like RADAR logs, etc. which support their stories.
Am I totally 100% convinced? Hmm, no.. but I am leaning towards it because, as I mentioned, these people are willing to testify under oath before Congress.. so I assume they have a pretty good case together.
Let me also give it another perspective:
If all these people testified against me in a court case for a serious crime, I am quite likely to get the death penalty. (assuming that's possible in the given state, etc. etc.)
If it's good enough to rule over life and death, it's good enough for me to lean towards proof.
Finally:
I list names here, but there's some very intriguing physical evidence in the form of RADAR logs, but also e.g. radiation measurements made at locations where objects have supposedly landed.
If one took the time to bring all the evidence together in a serious, scientific report, one can arrive at the point of having an extremely solid case.
If I recall correctly from a few days ago, the following website had a nice collection of papers describing all kinds of evidence. I cannot get it to load at the moment, but here's the link:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/
Oh this is not garbage, but not definite proof either.
These highly trained people who often had high security clearances do tell very interesting stories about hundreds of people at an air force base seeing very unusual objects both visually and on radar. And they often have the material to proof it.
And they all want to tell their stories under _oath_ before Congress. Lying before Congress equals 15 years in jail.. do you really think that these people are kidding? that they really haven't thought about this issue very long and hard? They're risking their reputation, careers, etc.
I know a lot of 'funny' stuff happened in e.g. The Cold Ware, but do not forget that the UFO phenomenon displays performance levels that are not a tiny bit better than what he have, but _magnitudes_ better. It's like they have taken the US Air Force motto of "No one comes close" and are making fun of it at every encounter.
I'm not saying these things are vehicles of green men, or grey or whatever.. I am saying that there's enough proof that UFOs are real.
And the U does stand for 'unidentified', so I'm not saying 'flying saucer', 'vehicle', etc.. I'm saying _something_ is doing amazing things in the air, under water and in orbit and the people above are thinking the same thing.
Mods, please forgive me for double posting the list of names.
The reason that I do this that, if the following people are hallucinating, we do have a significant problem recruiting and selecting people who command nuclear installations, aircraft carriers and so on.
Now if the following people are seeing things, often together with dozens of other people at their locations is one thing.
If SAC people start seeing things visually, and on radar, and at the same time all 10 missile missile silo's shutdown, while each is equipped with a triple redundant power system, you can tell there's something really really odd going on.
All the more if another base 50 miles further sees the same thing and experiences the same technological failures.
People here working with high-availability and high-reliability can surely appreciate that I'd say..
If both people and machines are hallucinating on that level and on this scale, I'm surprised that we are still alive at all!
Source: http://www.disclosureproject.org/aboutexecsumm.htm [disclosureproject.org]
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Testimony that Explains the Secrecy
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lt. Col. Charles Brown: US Air Force (Ret.); "Dr. B"; Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt: US Marine Corps; Maj. George A. Filer, III: US Air Force (Ret.); Nick Pope: British Ministry of Defense Official; Larry Warren: US Air Force, Security Officer; Sgt. Clifford Stone: US Army; Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative; A.H.: Boeing Aerospace Employee; Officer Alan Godfrey: British Police; Sgt. Karl Wolf: US Air Force; Ms. Donna Hare: NASA Employee; Mr. John Maynard: DIA Official; Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer; Glen Dennis: NM UFO Crash Witness; Sgt. Leonard Pretko: US Air Force; Dr. Roberto Pinotti: Italian UFO expert; Dr. Paul Czysz: McDonnell Douglas Career Engineer; Astronaut Edgar Mitchell; John Callahan: FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations; Michael Smith: US Air Force Radar Controller; Franklin Carter: US Navy Radar Technician; Neil Daniels: United Airlines Pilot; Lt. Frederick Fox: US Navy Pilot; Captain Robert Salas: US Air Force, SAC Launch Controller; Prof. Robert Jacobs: US Air Force; Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; James Kopf: US Navy Crypto Communications
Witness Testimony Overview
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell: May 1998; Monsignor Corrado Balducci: September 2000
Radar and Pilot Cases
FAA Division Chief John Callahan; Sgt. Chuck Sorrells: US Air Force (ret.); Mr. Michael W. Smith: US Air Force; Commander Graham Bethune: US Navy (ret.); Mr. Enrique Kolbeck: Senior Air Traffic Controller; Dr. Richard Haines; Mr. Franklin Carter: US Navy; Neil Daniels: Airline Pilot; Sgt. Robert Blazina (ret.); Lieutenant Frederick Marshall Fox: US Navy (ret.); Captain Massimo Poggi; Lt. Bob Walker: US Army; Mr. Don Bockelman: US Army
SAC/Nuke
Captain Robert Salas; Professor Robert Jacobs: Lt. US Air Force; Lt. Colonel Dwynne Arneson: US Air Force (ret.); Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/AEC (ret.); Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; Mr. James Kopf: US Navy/ National Security Agency; Lieutenant Colonel Joe Wojtecki, US Air Force; Staff Sergeant Stoney Campbell: US Air Force
Government Insiders/ NASA/ Deep Insiders
Astronaut Gordon Cooper; Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown: US Air Force (ret.); Dr. Carol Rosin; ÃoeDr. B.Ã; Lance Corporal John Weygandt: U.S. Marine Corps; Major A. Filer III: U.S. Air Force; Mr. Nick Pope: British Ministry Of Defense; Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: Five-Star Admiral, Former Head of the British Ministry of Defense; Security Officer Larry Warren: United States Air Force; Captain Lori Rehfeldt; Sergeant Clifford Stone: United States Army; Major-General Vasily Alexeyev: Russian Air Force; Master Sergeant Dan Morris: US Air Force/NRO Operative (ret.); Mr. Don Phillips: Lockheed Skunkworks, USAF, and CIA Contractor; Captain
Sgt. Clifford Stone (US Army)
http://www.disclosureproject.org/witnesssamples.htm
Keeping a secret can be done rather effectively via compartmentalizations.
The Manhattan project was kept a secret, even though somewhere around 100,000 people worked on it. And some secrets from the Cold War are only starting to become public just in recent years.
Just think what they would be able to keep secret with something that has an even higher security classification than the Manhattan project.
There are various Disclosure Project witnesses who tell how the secrets are being kept. Check Google video / YouTube for this material.
]
Indeed:
Scientific and technological progress are NOT linear! :)
Assuming they've made it here, you can assume that they're very advanced technologically wise.
When I see your point made, I always have to think about Star Trek, I believe it was one of the movies from the last decade, where the some kind of federation research team had a observatory (overlooking a small town) in a cave I believe with some kind of cloaking before/around it.
Perhaps they're even millions of years ahead of us, so if they are here, I bet they can accomplish pretty much anything that suits their agenda.
ESP is at least partially real.
See the references on the bottom of this page of a project at Princeton University:
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/story.html
The result of that project itself are also interesting:
Also various organizations with three letters have been doing research on this for decades now.
Do you really think they're just doing that because they are bored? If nothing has been found that is statistically significant, they would have quit after 1,2,5 years or so.
Other astronauts who don't have any experiences with this phenomenon?
Ahem, you better read some of the following stuff then:
Astronaut Sightings http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/Astronauts.htm
Off-topic, but it's McCain who is going senile apparently!
Check this amazing video. Flip-flop is an understatement..
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Devastating_New_YouTube_Video_John_McCain_s_Neverending_War_2
Let me post that list again of people who would really like to TESTIFY UNDER OATH before Congress:
(and risk 15 years in jail if lying!). Mitchell is in good company with people who have very solid track records!
The world is more than ready to hear the truth once and for all so that we come put an end to these perpetuating dichotomies between 'believers' and 'skeptics'.
We don't need all the military, sensitive details and stuff: just a YES or NO, what they look like and their intentions.
Source: http://www.disclosureproject.org/aboutexecsumm.htm
-----------------
Testimony that Explains the Secrecy
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lt. Col. Charles Brown: US Air Force (Ret.); "Dr. B"; Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt: US Marine Corps; Maj. George A. Filer, III: US Air Force (Ret.); Nick Pope: British Ministry of Defense Official; Larry Warren: US Air Force, Security Officer; Sgt. Clifford Stone: US Army; Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative; A.H.: Boeing Aerospace Employee; Officer Alan Godfrey: British Police; Sgt. Karl Wolf: US Air Force; Ms. Donna Hare: NASA Employee; Mr. John Maynard: DIA Official; Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer; Glen Dennis: NM UFO Crash Witness; Sgt. Leonard Pretko: US Air Force; Dr. Roberto Pinotti: Italian UFO expert; Dr. Paul Czysz: McDonnell Douglas Career Engineer; Astronaut Edgar Mitchell; John Callahan: FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations; Michael Smith: US Air Force Radar Controller; Franklin Carter: US Navy Radar Technician; Neil Daniels: United Airlines Pilot; Lt. Frederick Fox: US Navy Pilot; Captain Robert Salas: US Air Force, SAC Launch Controller; Prof. Robert Jacobs: US Air Force; Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; James Kopf: US Navy Crypto Communications
Witness Testimony Overview
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell: May 1998; Monsignor Corrado Balducci: September 2000
Radar and Pilot Cases
FAA Division Chief John Callahan; Sgt. Chuck Sorrells: US Air Force (ret.); Mr. Michael W. Smith: US Air Force; Commander Graham Bethune: US Navy (ret.); Mr. Enrique Kolbeck: Senior Air Traffic Controller; Dr. Richard Haines; Mr. Franklin Carter: US Navy; Neil Daniels: Airline Pilot; Sgt. Robert Blazina (ret.); Lieutenant Frederick Marshall Fox: US Navy (ret.); Captain Massimo Poggi; Lt. Bob Walker: US Army; Mr. Don Bockelman: US Army
SAC/Nuke
Captain Robert Salas; Professor Robert Jacobs: Lt. US Air Force; Lt. Colonel Dwynne Arneson: US Air Force (ret.); Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/AEC (ret.); Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy; Mr. James Kopf: US Navy/ National Security Agency; Lieutenant Colonel Joe Wojtecki, US Air Force; Staff Sergeant Stoney Campbell: US Air Force
Government Insiders/ NASA/ Deep Insiders
Astronaut Gordon Cooper; Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command; Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown: US Air Force (ret.); Dr. Carol Rosin; âoeDr. B.â; Lance Corporal John Weygandt: U.S. Marine Corps; Major A. Filer III: U.S. Air Force; Mr. Nick Pope: British Ministry Of Defense; Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: Five-Star Admiral, Former Head of the British Ministry of Defense; Security Officer Larry Warren: United States Air Force; Captain Lori Rehfeldt; Sergeant Clifford Stone: United States Army; Major-General Vasily Alexeyev: Russian Air Force; Master Sergeant Dan Morris: US Air Force/NRO Operative (ret.); Mr. Don Phillips: Lockheed Skunkworks, USAF, and CIA Contractor; Captain Bill Uhouse: US Marine Corps (ret.); Lieutenant Colonel John Williams: US Air Force
(ret.); Mr. Don Johnson; A.H.: Boeing Aerospace, December 2000; British Police Officer Alan Godfrey; Mr. Gordon Creighton: Former British Foreign Service Official; Sergeant Karl Wolfe: US Air Force; Donna Hare: Former NASA Employee; Mr. John Maynard: Defense Intelligence Agency (ret.); Mr. Harland Bentley: US Army; Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer, ; Dr. Alfred Webre: Senior Policy Analyst Stanford Research
You sir are my hero today.
Keep an open mind and accept to limits until you actually run into these limits with your experiments/statistics/etc.
Ehmm, no, not always.
I live on my own, have a nice apartment in the center of a middle-sized city in W. Europe (rent). I am insured (health care + few other required things) I eat biological food, have plenty of gadgets (e.g. MacBook, mp3 player etc, few USB disks, 2 other computers), wear pretty nice clothing of good quality, I save about 20% of my monthly income.
I do however not own a car. I cycle to work (10 mins). and do all my groceries around in nearby streets. Other things: public transport or renting a car.
The crux?
I work 3 days per week.
Why do I not work longer?
Well, 4 days per week would be ideal, but I work to live and not vice versa.
I want to learn, read, do cool things, invent, etc.
The rat race is IMHO to a large extend a phenomenon consisting of people making each other crazy. Either by wanting more and more stuff, which is often useless anyway or by bad planning at the company ('what? you want software projects for customer X, Y and Z done in 2 days? Get real!')
So I think what you stated is not necessarily true. Generally it is though. :)
Rule #3: Never open the package!
Next to rules #1 and #2 of course:
#1 "Never change the deal"
#2 "No names"
Reference hint :D
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0293662/
Nice suggestions, thank you!
Speaking about books, I would like to suggest Japanese: Step-by-Step as well.
To quote a review:
And as a programmer, I personally like the flow chart programming approach. :)
For learning alphabets I would really recommend the following website:
Henrik Theiling's Script Teacher - http://www.theiling.de/schrift/
It has already helped me a great deal learning the Japanese hiragana and katakana and Cyrillic.
When these VW become more dominating on the road, the H3 Soccer Mom will become extinct because of the high fuel prices I guess. ;)
You forgot to add 'Beta' to that name. ;)
They want.. *gasp*... a Tholian Web! :o
I believe the late Terence McKenna said that it was basically the fact that drugs break down boundaries that makes it threatening to ehmm.. certain 'cultural values' and 'power structures' (politics, religion, etc.).
An interesting point that he raises is that drugs that make us more productive 'in the factory', like coffee/caffeine, are promoted, while drugs that bring us 'as close as possible to the Bardo while still being able to return' (paraphrase) are not promoted at all.
Think DMT: our bodies produce it naturally(!), it's not addictive and it brings out the wildest psychedelic properties. It is however one of the most illegal substances known to man...
I'm not sure in which video this was mentioned, but probably 'The World and its Double'. I've got no time to find the exact fragment, but I believe it was in one of the following videos which are great anyway!
Terence McKenna: The World and its Double:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFD8pM4Mcs
Terence Mckenna - Culture is your operating system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8an2XZ3MU
Terence McKenna in Seattle 1999_Culture is NOT Your Friend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOy3H4yyocQ
No need to bow for we are from the same generation.
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;D
;p
The generation that learned how to handle MS-DOS and QBasic and survived to tell the tale.
All these young whipper snappers with them fancy GPUs.
I'm starting to feel old at 27, ouch.
This is your last chance to start Gorillas.bas and play it like we used to!
(For the younger people among us:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillas_(computer_game) )