> but I think attitudes like that are based in large part on "DJing" having become more of a fashion statement for many people than anything else.
True, true. I still remember the time I saw the gossip-column item about Paris Hilton "DJ'ing" at some club somewhere. I was hoping the story ended with a sinkhole or radioactive comet or Armin Van Buuren breaking a 12" over her head, but it tragically never happened.
I think the first thing you need to decide...
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...is what do you consider a DJ? Do you want to scratch for a nu-metal band like DJ Lethal? Do you want to back a hip-hop act? Do you want to produce your own beats and DJ for crowds like Tiesto? Do you want to be one of those guys who plugs his iPod into a sound system and says he's a DJ? Do you want to use vinyl, or take the digital way out?
Answer that question, and then you can start down the road.
> If the content creators (writers and artists) got the lions share of the proceeds rather than the ??AA you would have less pirates.
Allow me to role-play that particular scenario for a moment.
Ahem...
FUCK [successful_musician_X]! WHY SHOULD I PAY $20 FOR AN ALBUM WHEN SHE ALREADY HAS ALL THAT MONEY?!
It's just interesting how many people draw such a broad line in the ethical sand when it comes to the RIAA "ripping off artists," but how few of those people will choose to stand on the side of the line that includes *going without* all that blood-tainted music.
And why on earth would you support allofmp3.com? You might be "technically" legal, but ethically... well, I don't want this to turn into a personal attack. I'll just offer my opinion, which is that I'd much rather steal my music and be honest about it than give money to the Russian mob so that I can feel better about myself for "paying" for my music.
proposes a solution where we need to put people to support the product, thereby charging money indefinitely.
Well, no. What he actually said was...
have somebody there who can help support the user
...which isn't the same thing at all, and makes quite a bit more sense. While the rest of the town/village/tribe is learning basic computer skills, someone from that group who took to the technology quickly could be taught to function as support. Help from within as opposed to without, and all that.
That having been said, I really have to question the accuracy of this article. How often do you see somone quoted as saying "geez" in the middle of a business story? The whole thing seems a bit suspect to me.
Blizzard told CmdrTaco to change a name he had been using for awhile because it violated the game rules.
Except it didn't.
From Taco's post...
First of all, the reason that my account is in violation is that my name contains a title prefix. It took dozens of inquiries to get that explained. 'Cmdr' is the problem. I'm told that since the game has an internal honor system with titles, my name is not allowed. Never mind the fact that 'Cmdr' is not one of their titles. Never mind that countless other titles abound in the game: Mr, Sir, Sensei.
The name change isn't the issue as much as the completely random and inconsistent enforcement of rules (that may or may not be rules) by nameless, faceless people who live behind a wall of form letters, canned answers, and "we don't have to explain ourselves to you, citizen!" attitudes.
No, no, no. You're looking at it all wrong. With all power and control removed from the studios, the people of the internet will finally be able to truly liberate the artistic vision that they've been suppressing for so long! I mean, if they took all those brilliant ideas and stories that they have to Hollywood then they'd just end up with some fat-cat executive throwing fistfulls of *money* at them to go rent equipment and hire crew to go whore themselves out and, y'know, film something! What kind of capitalist stooge sellouts do you think they are? Because the internet makes it so easy to "share art " without actually paying anybody anything, we've taken the power of production away from the people who have had the skills to earn a living at their craft for years and put it into the most powerfully creative force the world has ever known - internet message board posters.
Hush, you. Stay out of here with your "facts." We're freeing artists from the hands of their media conglomerate slavemasters and working to deliver their art directly to the hands of the people who want it most - the people who have come to the long-awaited conclusion that everything sucks and nothing's worth paying for! Now let us get back to work...
I HAVEN'T OWNED A TELEVISION SINCE 1967 AND ONLY WATCH MOVIES ABOUT LEFT-HANDED ALEUT LESBIAN PIPEWELDERS! FUCK HOLLYWOOD!
Yes, actors are replaceable. Actors are paid modest amounts. Movie stars, however, are not. Movie stars are paid huge amounts. Actors and movie stars are two completely different things. When audiences consistently show up in huge numbers to see the same actor and cause huge profits, that actor has become a movie star and quite rightfully gets an enormous payday.
And what in the world does an actor's paycheck have to do with development time?
Because iTunes allows people to do what they've always wanted to do, which is buy music. Napster's business model consists of "pay us each month and you can listen to any of the music we own, but stop paying us and you lose it all." The only people on earth who thought that was a good idea were Napster's accountants. It's not even rent-to-own, it's just pay-to-listen. They're trying to market it like it's iTunes, but it's really more like XM Radio without the nifty receiver.
I concur 100%! While a barrage of "FRIZZIRST PIZZOIST!" posts can be an annoyance, they're not nearly as bad as the humorless lumps who shoot down every internet meme that comes across their field of view. I'd rather keep giggling over first posts and "It's a trap!" than be so leet that I can't find humor in simple silliness any more.
"Johnson? That weirdo down in IT? I *knew* he was trouble when he brought that shiny, new iPod in here! What's he doing? Slurping our corporate data?!"
"Erm, no. He put on a cloak and wizard hat, and now he's chasing Shelley the intern around the server room yelling 'lightning bolt! lightning bolt!'"
"Sweet Jesus... this is worse than the time we found out we had a furry in accounting. Fetch my pith helmet and tranquilizer gun."
> No-one should expect to be able to live for the rest of their life on a few years worth of good work, with no additional value added. As a programmer, I certainly dont. If I write something that sells well, I can expect to get a couple of years out of it at the most.
So what you're saying is this. If you write a useful and clever program that sells well, and in 2008 there are still people lined up at your doorstep throwing wads of $50's at your head for that exact same program - even though you haven't written a single line of code since - you're going to say "No, no, folks - keep your money! I shouldn't expect to keep getting money for something that's two years old! Take those dollars and buy some Jessica Simpson albums, as the White Album is far too old to pay money for!"
Maybe it's just me and the fact that I'm (somewhat) an artist, but I have *no* problem with spending money on music, films, art, whatever inspires me and makes my life better - no matter how old they are. Would I feel better if the money I spent on "Citizen Kane" went to Welles' family instead of a media conglomerate? Of course I would. But that media conglomerate produces things that I value just as much as - if not more than - food, water, and shelter, and so I'm ready to kick in some coin fifty years after the film was made just to make sure that more movies keep coming down the pike. Art is what keeps me going, and at the end of the day the artists can't live on attention and fans. They need cold hard cash to pay the rent, and I'm damned sure going to help out. I don't care if Paul McCartney ever writes another note in his life, but if he calls me up and says "Hey man, can you spot me $10?" I'm going to say "I remember 'Hey Jude'... here's $20, and keep the change." The song may be decades old, but in 2006 it's still worth money to me.
Wow. I can just smell the bong smoke and patchouli wafting through my monitor and... wait, is that Phish I hear? "You Enjoy Myself?" Yeah, I thought so.
Maybe you should go hacky-sack a little until you're good and awake before you post any more. Don't worry, we'll all still be here later.
"Don't forget the million's of Steeler's and Seahawks jersey's, hat's, scarve's, seat cushion's, beer mug's, key chain's, mirror's, pool table light's, glove's, ballcap's, parka's, etc, etc, etc, etc that are being sold this week, all licensed NFL item's..."
> There are many recovered homosexuals you can meet who would be happy to shake your hand and tell you they no longer desire to sodomize another man.
I, for one, would be happy to shake your hand and tell you that I'm a little teapot, both short and stout. But you know what? I just *might* be fibbing.
I shall pet him and love him and name him "Porky Pickle."
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> I am a very firm believer in diplomacy and discussion.
Evening, sir. I'm from the Internet. We're going to have to ask you to leave. We just can't have that sort of talk around here. It attracts the wrong element, you know? Sorry for the inconvenience.
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so I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these replies
Sweet screaming baby Jebuz... if I had mod points to spare you'd be getting all of them.
> but I think attitudes like that are based in large part on "DJing" having become more of a fashion statement for many people than anything else.
True, true. I still remember the time I saw the gossip-column item about Paris Hilton "DJ'ing" at some club somewhere. I was hoping the story ended with a sinkhole or radioactive comet or Armin Van Buuren breaking a 12" over her head, but it tragically never happened.
...is what do you consider a DJ? Do you want to scratch for a nu-metal band like DJ Lethal? Do you want to back a hip-hop act? Do you want to produce your own beats and DJ for crowds like Tiesto? Do you want to be one of those guys who plugs his iPod into a sound system and says he's a DJ? Do you want to use vinyl, or take the digital way out?
Answer that question, and then you can start down the road.
"damage was only sustained to the TVs..."
That just makes my head hurt.
> If the content creators (writers and artists) got the lions share of the proceeds rather than the ??AA you would have less pirates.
Allow me to role-play that particular scenario for a moment.
Ahem...
FUCK [successful_musician_X]! WHY SHOULD I PAY $20 FOR AN ALBUM WHEN SHE ALREADY HAS ALL THAT MONEY?!
It's just interesting how many people draw such a broad line in the ethical sand when it comes to the RIAA "ripping off artists," but how few of those people will choose to stand on the side of the line that includes *going without* all that blood-tainted music.
And why on earth would you support allofmp3.com? You might be "technically" legal, but ethically... well, I don't want this to turn into a personal attack. I'll just offer my opinion, which is that I'd much rather steal my music and be honest about it than give money to the Russian mob so that I can feel better about myself for "paying" for my music.
Well, no. What he actually said was...
That having been said, I really have to question the accuracy of this article. How often do you see somone quoted as saying "geez" in the middle of a business story? The whole thing seems a bit suspect to me.
Except it didn't.
From Taco's post...
The name change isn't the issue as much as the completely random and inconsistent enforcement of rules (that may or may not be rules) by nameless, faceless people who live behind a wall of form letters, canned answers, and "we don't have to explain ourselves to you, citizen!" attitudes.
No, no, no. You're looking at it all wrong. With all power and control removed from the studios, the people of the internet will finally be able to truly liberate the artistic vision that they've been suppressing for so long! I mean, if they took all those brilliant ideas and stories that they have to Hollywood then they'd just end up with some fat-cat executive throwing fistfulls of *money* at them to go rent equipment and hire crew to go whore themselves out and, y'know, film something! What kind of capitalist stooge sellouts do you think they are? Because the internet makes it so easy to "share art " without actually paying anybody anything, we've taken the power of production away from the people who have had the skills to earn a living at their craft for years and put it into the most powerfully creative force the world has ever known - internet message board posters.
Hush, you. Stay out of here with your "facts." We're freeing artists from the hands of their media conglomerate slavemasters and working to deliver their art directly to the hands of the people who want it most - the people who have come to the long-awaited conclusion that everything sucks and nothing's worth paying for! Now let us get back to work...
I HAVEN'T OWNED A TELEVISION SINCE 1967 AND ONLY WATCH MOVIES ABOUT LEFT-HANDED ALEUT LESBIAN PIPEWELDERS! FUCK HOLLYWOOD!
Yes, actors are replaceable. Actors are paid modest amounts. Movie stars, however, are not. Movie stars are paid huge amounts. Actors and movie stars are two completely different things. When audiences consistently show up in huge numbers to see the same actor and cause huge profits, that actor has become a movie star and quite rightfully gets an enormous payday.
And what in the world does an actor's paycheck have to do with development time?
By my clock, it was Saturday March 04, @ 12:42PM.
Because iTunes allows people to do what they've always wanted to do, which is buy music. Napster's business model consists of "pay us each month and you can listen to any of the music we own, but stop paying us and you lose it all." The only people on earth who thought that was a good idea were Napster's accountants. It's not even rent-to-own, it's just pay-to-listen. They're trying to market it like it's iTunes, but it's really more like XM Radio without the nifty receiver.
I concur 100%! While a barrage of "FRIZZIRST PIZZOIST!" posts can be an annoyance, they're not nearly as bad as the humorless lumps who shoot down every internet meme that comes across their field of view. I'd rather keep giggling over first posts and "It's a trap!" than be so leet that I can't find humor in simple silliness any more.
"Sir? I think Johnson's up to something."
"Johnson? That weirdo down in IT? I *knew* he was trouble when he brought that shiny, new iPod in here! What's he doing? Slurping our corporate data?!"
"Erm, no. He put on a cloak and wizard hat, and now he's chasing Shelley the intern around the server room yelling 'lightning bolt! lightning bolt!'"
"Sweet Jesus... this is worse than the time we found out we had a furry in accounting. Fetch my pith helmet and tranquilizer gun."
> What happened to punctuation,
dead!!
> capitalisation,
Dead!!
> spelling
teh DEAD!
> and understanding of homophones?
Sexuality, like proper spelling, is now devoid of limits - though I don't see what makes you bring it up now.
> No-one should expect to be able to live for the rest of their life on a few years worth of good work, with no additional value added. As a programmer, I certainly dont. If I write something that sells well, I can expect to get a couple of years out of it at the most.
So what you're saying is this. If you write a useful and clever program that sells well, and in 2008 there are still people lined up at your doorstep throwing wads of $50's at your head for that exact same program - even though you haven't written a single line of code since - you're going to say "No, no, folks - keep your money! I shouldn't expect to keep getting money for something that's two years old! Take those dollars and buy some Jessica Simpson albums, as the White Album is far too old to pay money for!"
Maybe it's just me and the fact that I'm (somewhat) an artist, but I have *no* problem with spending money on music, films, art, whatever inspires me and makes my life better - no matter how old they are. Would I feel better if the money I spent on "Citizen Kane" went to Welles' family instead of a media conglomerate? Of course I would. But that media conglomerate produces things that I value just as much as - if not more than - food, water, and shelter, and so I'm ready to kick in some coin fifty years after the film was made just to make sure that more movies keep coming down the pike. Art is what keeps me going, and at the end of the day the artists can't live on attention and fans. They need cold hard cash to pay the rent, and I'm damned sure going to help out. I don't care if Paul McCartney ever writes another note in his life, but if he calls me up and says "Hey man, can you spot me $10?" I'm going to say "I remember 'Hey Jude'... here's $20, and keep the change." The song may be decades old, but in 2006 it's still worth money to me.
Wow. I can just smell the bong smoke and patchouli wafting through my monitor and... wait, is that Phish I hear? "You Enjoy Myself?" Yeah, I thought so.
Maybe you should go hacky-sack a little until you're good and awake before you post any more. Don't worry, we'll all still be here later.
> Stuff happens outside the US too.
Of course! We learned all about it in school. There's World War II, stinky cheeses, Godzilla, and The French.
We didn't miss anything, did we?
"Oh, the inhu-unmanned-ity!"
There's this thing called sarcasm. You should read up on it, as you might encounter it here on the internets.
oh yeah, and...
> You can go buy some parkas, but one of the parka's collars may be damaged.
you = pwned.
"Don't forget the million's of Steeler's and Seahawks jersey's, hat's, scarve's, seat cushion's, beer mug's, key chain's, mirror's, pool table light's, glove's, ballcap's, parka's, etc, etc, etc, etc that are being sold this week, all licensed NFL item's..."
I fixed that for you.
> There are many recovered homosexuals you can meet who would be happy to shake your hand and tell you they no longer desire to sodomize another man.
I, for one, would be happy to shake your hand and tell you that I'm a little teapot, both short and stout. But you know what? I just *might* be fibbing.
A fluorescent green pig with no legs?
I shall pet him and love him and name him "Porky Pickle."
> I am a very firm believer in diplomacy and discussion.
Evening, sir. I'm from the Internet. We're going to have to ask you to leave. We just can't have that sort of talk around here. It attracts the wrong element, you know? Sorry for the inconvenience.