You forget the other element of punishment - as a deterrent. If everyone knows that society will kill you for killing someone else then less people will commit murder. It won't stop all killings - some people get angry enough, some people think they're smart enough to get away with it, some people just don't care. But most people fear consequences their actions and so moderate their behaviour accordingly.
My folks hit me once, when my behaviour was so far out of line that it was endangering not just myself but several other people. After that it didn't need to be done again - the knowledge that that ultimate sanction was available was a deterrent. Parents who hit their kids repeatedly for minor things don't teach their kids any escalating scale of Misbehaviour/punishment and so the kids end up figuring that "Well I'm gonna get hit anyway so I may as well go all the way".
Likewise a legal system that imposes high-level sanctions for minor misdemeanours ends up in a situation where the criminals are always prepared to take things to the extreme - as per the old saying "Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb"
I guess you've never meta-modded then. That's what it's supposed to be... even if most people use it just to get mod points back faster so they can mod viewpoints they don't like to oblivion.
the US prison system breeds assbandits - if you're not the one going in, you sure as hell will be "coming out"
There - fixed that for ya.;-P
Seriously, what an asshole. Sure, he had a right to overreact and blow himself away if he really wanted to but to take his family with him? World of being a shithead. Then again, I guess being a spammer he was probably one of those "The world revolves around me" types.
Well, labour is usually the end of pregnancy;->
And if it's a baby you don't actually want and the laws haven't allowed you to make a choice over what happens to your own body then it would qualify as forced uncompensated labour...
Well, most of the male humans I meet seem to be obsessed with attempting to return at least a portion of their being - though usually to a different retailler...
So... do you think that they chose the first operation name so that when they had to deny its exsistence the press officer could stand there and say "What you have to understand is that there is no (blue) spoon."
Linear? Oblivion? Dear god man, I don't know that flavour crack you're smoking but there are very few games that are as open as the Elder Scrolls series. I should know - between the various games I've put in 6-700 hours of gameplay...
Because he's not being paid to come in at 4am to fix the data servers.
If your boss suggested that you came in at 4am regularly with no commensurate recompense we'd be hearing the howls of outrage around the globe.
True, and the uproar about how he managed to get the votes necessary may well scupper the bill at a re-reading. The point I was making is that due to the Parliment Act the House of Lords now has _no_ power to block a bill against a determined government, merely send it back twice for re-debate. That's it.
Okay, let's look at someone from your list:
"Adams was active in Sinn Féin at this time. In August 1971, internment was introduced in Northern Ireland under the Special Powers Act. Adams was interned in March 1972, on HMS Maidstone, but was released in June to take part in secret, but abortive talks in London.[4] The IRA negotiated a short-lived truce with the British and an IRA delegation met with the British Home Secretary, William Whitelaw. The delegation included Sean Mac Stiofain (Chief of Staff), Daithi O'Conaill, Seamus Twomey, Ivor Bell, Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams , and Myles Shevlin, a solicitor. The IRA insisted Adams be included in the meeting and he was released from internment to participate. Following the failure of the talks he played a central role in planning the bomb blitz on Belfast known as Bloody Friday.[4] He was re-arrested in July 1973 and interned at Long Kesh internment camp. After taking part in an IRA-organised escape attempt he was sentenced to a period of imprisonment."
Held for a few months on a naval ship, then released to take part in talks. When he didn't get what he wanted from the talks he took part in planning an atrocity that killed 9 and injured over 130 - carefully designed so that people being evacuated from the first few bombs were directly in line for the second wave.
Hardly a shining example of a humanitarian. And 3-4 months in a brig hardly compares to Guantanamo Bay. As he was held on a British Naval vessel he was subject to British law, as opposed to being parcelled onto another nation's soil to avoid the arresting nation's laws...
Remember the Fox Hunting Ban? The House of Lords blocked the ban, and Tony B.Liar pushed it through anyway on the crest of a popular mandate - it was an election promise, it was a class issue, the lords had only blocked it cos' they were all evil nasty fox hunters etc...
But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. We handed him a precedent to sweep aside the objections of the only body that could act as a brake on his ambitions. And paid the price years later when he took us into an illegal war - a price that is still being paid. What makes you think that Tony's understudy is going to hesitate for a moment to use the same power to force his own pet projects through?
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There, fixed that for ya.
It only takes 20 years if I remember the quote right...
You forget the other element of punishment - as a deterrent. If everyone knows that society will kill you for killing someone else then less people will commit murder. It won't stop all killings - some people get angry enough, some people think they're smart enough to get away with it, some people just don't care. But most people fear consequences their actions and so moderate their behaviour accordingly.
My folks hit me once, when my behaviour was so far out of line that it was endangering not just myself but several other people. After that it didn't need to be done again - the knowledge that that ultimate sanction was available was a deterrent. Parents who hit their kids repeatedly for minor things don't teach their kids any escalating scale of Misbehaviour/punishment and so the kids end up figuring that "Well I'm gonna get hit anyway so I may as well go all the way".
Likewise a legal system that imposes high-level sanctions for minor misdemeanours ends up in a situation where the criminals are always prepared to take things to the extreme - as per the old saying "Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb"
I guess you've never meta-modded then. That's what it's supposed to be... even if most people use it just to get mod points back faster so they can mod viewpoints they don't like to oblivion.
I'm not sure that I want to know what you do with your computer to get it all sweaty...
Nope. Nothing can.
the US prison system breeds assbandits - if you're not the one going in, you sure as hell will be "coming out"
There - fixed that for ya. ;-P
Seriously, what an asshole. Sure, he had a right to overreact and blow himself away if he really wanted to but to take his family with him? World of being a shithead. Then again, I guess being a spammer he was probably one of those "The world revolves around me" types.
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And it doesn't coount if you're not prepared to stake your Karma on it...
Well, labour is usually the end of pregnancy ;->
And if it's a baby you don't actually want and the laws haven't allowed you to make a choice over what happens to your own body then it would qualify as forced uncompensated labour...
Well, most of the male humans I meet seem to be obsessed with attempting to return at least a portion of their being - though usually to a different retailler...
Does that mean that every country that's lost people to Extrodinary Rendition can bill the US govt...?
No, that was RoboSanta
So... do you think that they chose the first operation name so that when they had to deny its exsistence the press officer could stand there and say "What you have to understand is that there is no (blue) spoon."
I'd ask how your "movie barometer" fared during Brokeback mountain, but on second thoughts I really don't want to know...
Hpoefully they'll auction off freeze-dried and cased in resin pieces of Darl McBride to pay the debt...
Linear? Oblivion? Dear god man, I don't know that flavour crack you're smoking but there are very few games that are as open as the Elder Scrolls series. I should know - between the various games I've put in 6-700 hours of gameplay...
And they'll have to keep it under 88 or the Flux Capacitor'll kick in and then it'll end up before it was launched...
Because he's not being paid to come in at 4am to fix the data servers.
If your boss suggested that you came in at 4am regularly with no commensurate recompense we'd be hearing the howls of outrage around the globe.
At a guess... Australia.
Or maybe the UK?
Or America?
Or pretty much any country in what's laughably termed the First World...
Oh look... Knackers. ;->
Maybe it'd read better as
AoC Bug Penilizes Female Characters?
True, and the uproar about how he managed to get the votes necessary may well scupper the bill at a re-reading. The point I was making is that due to the Parliment Act the House of Lords now has _no_ power to block a bill against a determined government, merely send it back twice for re-debate. That's it.
Okay, let's look at someone from your list:
"Adams was active in Sinn Féin at this time. In August 1971, internment was introduced in Northern Ireland under the Special Powers Act. Adams was interned in March 1972, on HMS Maidstone, but was released in June to take part in secret, but abortive talks in London.[4] The IRA negotiated a short-lived truce with the British and an IRA delegation met with the British Home Secretary, William Whitelaw. The delegation included Sean Mac Stiofain (Chief of Staff), Daithi O'Conaill, Seamus Twomey, Ivor Bell, Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams , and Myles Shevlin, a solicitor. The IRA insisted Adams be included in the meeting and he was released from internment to participate. Following the failure of the talks he played a central role in planning the bomb blitz on Belfast known as Bloody Friday.[4] He was re-arrested in July 1973 and interned at Long Kesh internment camp. After taking part in an IRA-organised escape attempt he was sentenced to a period of imprisonment." Held for a few months on a naval ship, then released to take part in talks. When he didn't get what he wanted from the talks he took part in planning an atrocity that killed 9 and injured over 130 - carefully designed so that people being evacuated from the first few bombs were directly in line for the second wave.
Hardly a shining example of a humanitarian. And 3-4 months in a brig hardly compares to Guantanamo Bay. As he was held on a British Naval vessel he was subject to British law, as opposed to being parcelled onto another nation's soil to avoid the arresting nation's laws...
Problem is that won't stop it.
Remember the Fox Hunting Ban? The House of Lords blocked the ban, and Tony B.Liar pushed it through anyway on the crest of a popular mandate - it was an election promise, it was a class issue, the lords had only blocked it cos' they were all evil nasty fox hunters etc...
But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. We handed him a precedent to sweep aside the objections of the only body that could act as a brake on his ambitions. And paid the price years later when he took us into an illegal war - a price that is still being paid. What makes you think that Tony's understudy is going to hesitate for a moment to use the same power to force his own pet projects through?