OSS pretty much started as a reaction to the Microsoft monopoly.
Wrong. Stallman started the whole ball rolling (formally) in the 80s, way before MS was anywhere near a monopoly. It was started simply because Stallman didn't like not having the ability to tinker with source code of some stuff he was coming across.
The fact that the revolution is different then what people thought the revolution was about is par for the course.
Exactly. It has stopped being about choice and is now about pushing a platform. Had the article said "Brazil to become an all MS shop" most people here would have thier nickers in a twist.
I love linux, but I'm really starting to dislike the majority of "supporters."
SCO claims that linux is costing them hundreds of millions of dollars per year, and yet doesn't want to destroy it? Of course they want to destroy it.
No they don't, they want to co-opt it. They want Linux to flurish *and* get paid for it. You think if they destroyed linux all of the sudden all of the businesses who were migrating stuff to linux would all of the sudden migrate to OpenUnix or UnixWare? Hell no, they'd to to Windows or another well known (i.e. bigger, more stable) unix provider. Why do you think they have people line Boise and the Abeerdeen group bending over backwards to say this isn't about destroying Linux? Because if they win its in their best intrest for Linux to be successful because they'll get a cut of every deployment.
I think this actually a pretty telling statement. Yes, if there was a violation they you do sue Linus (and the other copyright holders). Remember, their arguement for punative damages is that Linux (using thier IP) has taken business away from them. *IF* this is true then they should have sued as soon as a violation was present, thus protecting their market.
Yeah, most people who think rationally have considred that, in the particulars of the IBM case, SCO might actually have some case.
I tend to think that SCO *may* have a better case than most/.ers give them credit for. Everyone seems to be focusing on "historic" unix and not on the project Monterey, which is pretty much where they've said the violation comes from. All that they would have to show is that IBM took IP from that project that they didn't have the rights to and submitted it into the Linux kernel.
Having said that I'm still not sure they'll win. If it was an obvious and egredious violation IBM would have taken care of it when SCO first approached them. Not to mention that IBM is well known for making developers jump thru a lot of legal hoops *just for such a reason*. I suspect that its a lot more complicated than simply SCO owns the offending code. I find it hard to believe that IBM would agree to a program with SCO where they'd co-develop something, but IBM wouldn't retain the rights to it.
Not to mention, if there was such a deal where IBM wasn't allowed to do anything with the Monterey code I suspect that SCO would also be bound by that agreement as well, which makes their "we're losing business because they stole our stuff" arguement bunk, since they technically wouldn't have been able to use it either.
I suspect that the offending code doesn't come from the copyright contested Unix codebase, but from the work on the Monterey project (didn't Caldera release the old, genetic Unix code a year or so ago? It should be simple to check for code duplication).
As far as I can tell SCO are accusing IBM of taking something from the Monterey codebase and putting it into Linux. For them to prevail it would assume that IBM and SCO had some sort of agreement that whatever was developed stayed "in-house." This is why the lawsuit is over Trade Secret violation and not copyright or patent infringement. And, as far as I understand with trade secret violation once the cat is out of the bag everyone (except the party guilty of leaking the secret) can use it without violating law. Now, if its SCO developed and owned code they could then follow-up with a copyright case, but I suspect that would be a lot harder to do (or else they'd be doing it right now).
I suspect the only reason SCO is fighting about the SysV codebase is a) to scare the hell out of businesses to pay up some licensing fees and b) establish that they have the right to yank IBM's SysV license and thus fuck AIX (i.e. put a huge amount of leverage on IBM to settle quickly)
I assume the artist/label could still sell the same track under a different service. I haven't read anywhere where Apple is trying to make this exclusive (since the Big 5 are selling / leasing their wares elsewhere as well).
Frankly I don't blame Apple. Keep everything uniform to keep the costs down. If JoeRecord lable wants to sell MP3s they can still do it, it just won't be thru iTunes.
Well, one reason (that I haven't seen anyone talk about) is that I suspect it doesn't have anything to do with the "Genetic" unix, more what code was produced for Project Monteray. If it was simply about old SysV code they have about as many legs to stand on as everyone here claims. Plus, they'd be suing HP, Dell, and anyone else with big pockets who has ever touched Linux.
The thing is they're going after IBM, and they're stressing contract law, not patents and copyrights (although they flip flop over those from time to time). This leads me to conclude:
They believe code produced for Project Monterey has made it into Linux. This still seems sketchy since it would assume that IBM signed some agreement before hand that they had no rights to the code (which they were co-developing with SCO and some other company IBM bought) outside of that particular project. This is the *only* situation that I can see that has any sort of chance of landing in SCO's favor. And the reason they want to clarify copyrights/patents is to be able to have the leverage to pull the SysV licence out from under IBM.
Well, Apple's hands aren't clean either. They axed the clone market upon which clobbered demand (or at least the prospect of future demand) for their chips. If I was Moto I'd be pissed too.
I've said it before, the DUMBEST thing the RIAA did was go after streaming music. On a certain level I can see why the feared it because they figured someone would rip the streams and keep the music. But, until broadband comes about most folks are going to listen to low bandwidth streams anyway. Also, they could make a tiered system where streams under 56K are royalty free (and thus prefered by internet broadcasters).
This was free friggin advertisement for their product, and one that they didn't need to kiss big radio's ass (and pay them lots of money) to get their product on the air. The perfect medium to push their not so big artists to a broader audience.
That didn't happen when HP merged with Compaq. The Journada range was dropped, even though they had some nice features not found in iPAQs.
But unlike Palm / Handspring HP didn't buy Compaq for its handheld group. I have a hard time seeing why Palm would buy Handspring simply to kill it. I suspect they wanted to flesh out their "smartphone" portfolio.
Has nothing to do with Law enforcement. Apple are (to my knowledge) still negotiating with the "Big 5" for the ability to use iTunesMusic store with Windows users. I'd lay good money it was done not to piss those guys off.
Frankly, I'm not too worried about it. I sneaker net all my crap to work via iPod anyway.
Live Shows. Playing live is the best way to promote yourself if you're not being pushed by one of the RIAA (or to a lesser extent a successful indy) labels. It always has been, and chances are it always will be. If you're good then you'll grow a fanbase who are the best at spreading the word. MP3 (and a website) are nice to have once you've got something established -- they allow your fanbase to keep tabs on what you're up to -- but a career can not be built on MP3s, webpages or radio promotions alone.
One of these days I'll get my dream "multimedia" center built (now that I'm buying a house it may become a reality). I'd like to build a remote control app on the Zaurus to control said box.
I just updated my 5500 to the new 3.x rom this weekend. I rarely use the machine for PIM functionality, so I can't really go into detail on how good/bad it is, but Opera on it is pretty damn good. Things load pretty quickly, you can scale the screen down to a point (so you don't have to scroll back and forth to read certain pages... looking at Slashdot in light mode helps a lot). I haven't used PocketPC or a browser on the Palm, so I really couldn't say how well it works in comparison to those. Nevertheless it works well enough for me to throw in my pocket when I'm off to Common Grounds for some tea (plug).
OT: the new Mail app still can't subscribe / unsubscribe to IMAP folders, nor can you set the mail path.. at least I haven't been able to figure it out.
I dont really understand how they can impact Linux buy "saving SCO."
Has bollocks all to do with product and everything to do with the lawsuit. SCO isn't in the most financially stable company right now, and lawsuits aren't cheap (esp. against the likes of a well funded IBM). So why does MS care? Who are two of MS's largest competitors, by their own admission? Linux and IBM. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. So funding them is low cost / low risk. They can bleet about "IP" and the lawsuit will keep IBM busy and cast a pall over Linux until its resolved.
You know, its a tin foil hat explanation.... but I hate to admit the same thing has crossed my mind a few times.
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Sorry, but I have to laugh. If any Joe can recreate Amazon, they why haven't they done it? I seriously doubt that the "one-click-patent" is the thing that makes or breaks a company.
Yes, throwing something up on a website is easy, but the logistics of inventory managment isn't, and that seems to be where Amazon has done a damn good job (especially when they sell other people's stuff and have *zero* inventory to manage, a'la eBay).
The same is true about Dell. According to you any idiot should be able to put together a multi-billion dollar computer business simply by throwing up a web page or two. As Compaq how that worked out for them. Dell ate their lunch and it hade *everything* to do with inventory control.
I wonder if Episode VII-IX would be a good choice as first projects?
Dear god no! It wasn't the technology that was the problem with I, II (and, no-doubt, III), but piss-poor stories. It wouldn't have mattered if Lucas did I, II, III, VII, VIII, or IX as live action, animation, stick figures, a puppet show, or Kabuki theatre unless he has a plot that doesn't suck the sweat of a dead donkey's balls they'd still stink.
Doubtful since NeXT didn't exist until Jobs left Apple (later 80s). But yes, they did have PostScript for Displays as their rendering engine. Rumor has it the reason they switched to PDF was to keep from paying Adobe licensing $$$.
Criminally easy ways to not screw yourself financially:
- Never carry a credit card debt unless there's a good reason (and a bitchin' stereo isn't a good reason), and if you have to pay it off ASAP. Treat you CC as cash. Only put on it what you can pay off at the end of the month.
- Put money into a savings account every month (direct deposit is your friend), even if it's a minor amount.
- Only buy cars / homes that you can afford. Sure, a Lexus may be nice, but a Honda will get the job done for much less. And don't trade it in every 3 years, and don't lease.
- 401Ks are your friend. Put in the max, or as much as you can comforably afford.
- Don't eat out every night. Learn to cook.
Just common sense, but you'd be surprised how many people seem to lack it and get themselves into serious trouble.
Actually, a few things are worth having translucent. My Trillian window for instance on my Win2K work box. I have Trillian set up as always on top, and knock it down to pretty translucent. Allows me to keep an eye on who's online while not completely losing that screen real estate.
Damn FDR eh! Only got the US up and running again and helped it over the great depression.
Nope, you have Hitler to thank for that. WWII pulled us out of the depression, not FDR's social plans. Those plans *did* give people jobs, which helped keep some people employed but didn't do anywhere near as much for the economy as a whole.
In fact, liberals of the time said didn't do enough to end the depression.
I guess being a socialist he must be responsible for all the erosions of individual rights that have been implemented by Republicans.
And how many Democrats voted for PATRIOT as well? Er... almost all of them.
And who interned thousands of Japaneese Americans? *cough*cough* FDR.
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OSS pretty much started as a reaction to the Microsoft monopoly.
Wrong. Stallman started the whole ball rolling (formally) in the 80s, way before MS was anywhere near a monopoly. It was started simply because Stallman didn't like not having the ability to tinker with source code of some stuff he was coming across.
The fact that the revolution is different then what people thought the revolution was about is par for the course.
Exactly. It has stopped being about choice and is now about pushing a platform. Had the article said "Brazil to become an all MS shop" most people here would have thier nickers in a twist.
I love linux, but I'm really starting to dislike the majority of "supporters."
SCO claims that linux is costing them hundreds of millions of dollars per year, and yet doesn't want to destroy it? Of course they want to destroy it.
No they don't, they want to co-opt it. They want Linux to flurish *and* get paid for it. You think if they destroyed linux all of the sudden all of the businesses who were migrating stuff to linux would all of the sudden migrate to OpenUnix or UnixWare? Hell no, they'd to to Windows or another well known (i.e. bigger, more stable) unix provider. Why do you think they have people line Boise and the Abeerdeen group bending over backwards to say this isn't about destroying Linux? Because if they win its in their best intrest for Linux to be successful because they'll get a cut of every deployment.
I think this actually a pretty telling statement. Yes, if there was a violation they you do sue Linus (and the other copyright holders). Remember, their arguement for punative damages is that Linux (using thier IP) has taken business away from them. *IF* this is true then they should have sued as soon as a violation was present, thus protecting their market.
Yeah, most people who think rationally have considred that, in the particulars of the IBM case, SCO might actually have some case.
/.ers give them credit for. Everyone seems to be focusing on "historic" unix and not on the project Monterey, which is pretty much where they've said the violation comes from. All that they would have to show is that IBM took IP from that project that they didn't have the rights to and submitted it into the Linux kernel.
I tend to think that SCO *may* have a better case than most
Having said that I'm still not sure they'll win. If it was an obvious and egredious violation IBM would have taken care of it when SCO first approached them. Not to mention that IBM is well known for making developers jump thru a lot of legal hoops *just for such a reason*. I suspect that its a lot more complicated than simply SCO owns the offending code. I find it hard to believe that IBM would agree to a program with SCO where they'd co-develop something, but IBM wouldn't retain the rights to it.
Not to mention, if there was such a deal where IBM wasn't allowed to do anything with the Monterey code I suspect that SCO would also be bound by that agreement as well, which makes their "we're losing business because they stole our stuff" arguement bunk, since they technically wouldn't have been able to use it either.
I suspect that the offending code doesn't come from the copyright contested Unix codebase, but from the work on the Monterey project (didn't Caldera release the old, genetic Unix code a year or so ago? It should be simple to check for code duplication).
As far as I can tell SCO are accusing IBM of taking something from the Monterey codebase and putting it into Linux. For them to prevail it would assume that IBM and SCO had some sort of agreement that whatever was developed stayed "in-house." This is why the lawsuit is over Trade Secret violation and not copyright or patent infringement. And, as far as I understand with trade secret violation once the cat is out of the bag everyone (except the party guilty of leaking the secret) can use it without violating law. Now, if its SCO developed and owned code they could then follow-up with a copyright case, but I suspect that would be a lot harder to do (or else they'd be doing it right now).
I suspect the only reason SCO is fighting about the SysV codebase is a) to scare the hell out of businesses to pay up some licensing fees and b) establish that they have the right to yank IBM's SysV license and thus fuck AIX (i.e. put a huge amount of leverage on IBM to settle quickly)
I assume the artist/label could still sell the same track under a different service. I haven't read anywhere where Apple is trying to make this exclusive (since the Big 5 are selling / leasing their wares elsewhere as well).
Frankly I don't blame Apple. Keep everything uniform to keep the costs down. If JoeRecord lable wants to sell MP3s they can still do it, it just won't be thru iTunes.
Well, one reason (that I haven't seen anyone talk about) is that I suspect it doesn't have anything to do with the "Genetic" unix, more what code was produced for Project Monteray. If it was simply about old SysV code they have about as many legs to stand on as everyone here claims. Plus, they'd be suing HP, Dell, and anyone else with big pockets who has ever touched Linux.
The thing is they're going after IBM, and they're stressing contract law, not patents and copyrights (although they flip flop over those from time to time). This leads me to conclude:
They believe code produced for Project Monterey has made it into Linux. This still seems sketchy since it would assume that IBM signed some agreement before hand that they had no rights to the code (which they were co-developing with SCO and some other company IBM bought) outside of that particular project. This is the *only* situation that I can see that has any sort of chance of landing in SCO's favor. And the reason they want to clarify copyrights/patents is to be able to have the leverage to pull the SysV licence out from under IBM.
Well, Apple's hands aren't clean either. They axed the clone market upon which clobbered demand (or at least the prospect of future demand) for their chips. If I was Moto I'd be pissed too.
I've said it before, the DUMBEST thing the RIAA did was go after streaming music. On a certain level I can see why the feared it because they figured someone would rip the streams and keep the music. But, until broadband comes about most folks are going to listen to low bandwidth streams anyway. Also, they could make a tiered system where streams under 56K are royalty free (and thus prefered by internet broadcasters).
This was free friggin advertisement for their product, and one that they didn't need to kiss big radio's ass (and pay them lots of money) to get their product on the air. The perfect medium to push their not so big artists to a broader audience.
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
That didn't happen when HP merged with Compaq. The Journada range was dropped, even though they had some nice features not found in iPAQs.
But unlike Palm / Handspring HP didn't buy Compaq for its handheld group. I have a hard time seeing why Palm would buy Handspring simply to kill it. I suspect they wanted to flesh out their "smartphone" portfolio.
...Assuming you're a lazy ass like me and don't take it out of your wallet when you swipe it to get into your building.
Hell, there's even a simpler problem: If I have more than one credit card which one will it "charge?" Or will it charge both?
Has nothing to do with Law enforcement. Apple are (to my knowledge) still negotiating with the "Big 5" for the ability to use iTunesMusic store with Windows users. I'd lay good money it was done not to piss those guys off.
Frankly, I'm not too worried about it. I sneaker net all my crap to work via iPod anyway.
Live Shows. Playing live is the best way to promote yourself if you're not being pushed by one of the RIAA (or to a lesser extent a successful indy) labels. It always has been, and chances are it always will be. If you're good then you'll grow a fanbase who are the best at spreading the word. MP3 (and a website) are nice to have once you've got something established -- they allow your fanbase to keep tabs on what you're up to -- but a career can not be built on MP3s, webpages or
radio promotions alone.
Go out and play... a lot.
One of these days I'll get my dream "multimedia" center built (now that I'm buying a house it may become a reality). I'd like to build a remote control app on the Zaurus to control said box.
I just updated my 5500 to the new 3.x rom this weekend. I rarely use the machine for PIM functionality, so I can't really go into detail on how good/bad it is, but Opera on it is pretty damn good. Things load pretty quickly, you can scale the screen down to a point (so you don't have to scroll back and forth to read certain pages... looking at Slashdot in light mode helps a lot). I haven't used PocketPC or a browser on the Palm, so I really couldn't say how well it works in comparison to those. Nevertheless it works well enough for me to throw in my pocket when I'm off to Common Grounds for some tea (plug).
OT: the new Mail app still can't subscribe / unsubscribe to IMAP folders, nor can you set the mail path.. at least I haven't been able to figure it out.
I dont really understand how they can impact Linux buy "saving SCO."
Has bollocks all to do with product and everything to do with the lawsuit. SCO isn't in the most financially stable company right now, and lawsuits aren't cheap (esp. against the likes of a well funded IBM). So why does MS care? Who are two of MS's largest competitors, by their own admission? Linux and IBM. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. So funding them is low cost / low risk. They can bleet about "IP" and the lawsuit will keep IBM busy and cast a pall over Linux until its resolved.
You know, its a tin foil hat explanation.... but I hate to admit the same thing has crossed my mind a few times.
Sorry, but I have to laugh. If any Joe can recreate Amazon, they why haven't they done it? I seriously doubt that the "one-click-patent" is the thing that makes or breaks a company.
Yes, throwing something up on a website is easy, but the logistics of inventory managment isn't, and that seems to be where Amazon has done a damn good job (especially when they sell other people's stuff and have *zero* inventory to manage, a'la eBay).
The same is true about Dell. According to you any idiot should be able to put together a multi-billion dollar computer business simply by throwing up a web page or two. As Compaq how that worked out for them. Dell ate their lunch and it hade *everything* to do with inventory control.
I wonder if Episode VII-IX would be a good choice as first projects?
Dear god no! It wasn't the technology that was the problem with I, II (and, no-doubt, III), but piss-poor stories. It wouldn't have mattered if Lucas did I, II, III, VII, VIII, or IX as live action, animation, stick figures, a puppet show, or Kabuki theatre unless he has a plot that doesn't suck the sweat of a dead donkey's balls they'd still stink.
Doubtful since NeXT didn't exist until Jobs left Apple (later 80s). But yes, they did have PostScript for Displays as their rendering engine. Rumor has it the reason they switched to PDF was to keep from paying Adobe licensing $$$.
Bingo.
Criminally easy ways to not screw yourself financially:
- Never carry a credit card debt unless there's a good reason (and a bitchin' stereo isn't a good reason), and if you have to pay it off ASAP. Treat you CC as cash. Only put on it what you can pay off at the end of the month.
- Put money into a savings account every month (direct deposit is your friend), even if it's a minor amount.
- Only buy cars / homes that you can afford. Sure, a Lexus may be nice, but a Honda will get the job done for much less. And don't trade it in every 3 years, and don't lease.
- 401Ks are your friend. Put in the max, or as much as you can comforably afford.
- Don't eat out every night. Learn to cook.
Just common sense, but you'd be surprised how many people seem to lack it and get themselves into serious trouble.
Actually, a few things are worth having translucent. My Trillian window for instance on my Win2K work box. I have Trillian set up as always on top, and knock it down to pretty translucent. Allows me to keep an eye on who's online while not completely losing that screen real estate.
Damn FDR eh! Only got the US up and running again and helped it over the great depression.
Nope, you have Hitler to thank for that. WWII pulled us out of the depression, not FDR's social plans. Those plans *did* give people jobs, which helped keep some people employed but didn't do anywhere near as much for the economy as a whole.
In fact, liberals of the time said didn't do enough to end the depression.
I guess being a socialist he must be responsible for all the erosions of individual rights that have been implemented by Republicans.
And how many Democrats voted for PATRIOT as well? Er... almost all of them.
And who interned thousands of Japaneese Americans? *cough*cough* FDR.
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