The real win of this theme for me is, when you select small icons, it makes them by-god SMALL. I have limited screen real-estate on my laptop and need to squish those icons down all I can.
> What a blast from the pre-bust past, mixed with a bit of post-bust reality
-nod- And for the most part, it's straight-up. The atmosphere there is very easygoing. I worked there for quite a while, and still do part time. As compared to the hoops I jump through reporting time at my other job, the official time reporting instructions at emperor are "email me a float on the tenth of the month"
> if they want to cut down on piracy they should try making the DVDs copy protected.
Or make them inexpensive and attractive enough (through catchy cover-art, bundled with extras like coupons for cinema shows and so on) that people actually WANT to buy them instead of going to the trouble to dupe them.
> In all honesty, does anyone think Mozilla will be able to overtake IE anytime soon?
I see it as kinda like Linux in this respect. That is, I don't care if it overtakes microsoft's offering, so long as it remains vital and healthy and keeps on improving so -I- can keep using and enjoying it. I don't care what anybody else does until it starts affecting me. The catch, though, is that an open source project needs to have some minimal critical mass to stay vital.
Thank you for adding this expression to the vernacular, pbranes. I can guarantee you that 'sucks scissors' will be my favorite euphemism for not being any good for quite a while. =)
> 2: You can't overwrite text. You have to paste in and then change the selection.
-nod- This is really the only issue I have with highlight, middle-click and I've learned to work around it (middle-clicking a url into the main window of most browsers, for instance). Not worth abandoning the overall much better model in my opinion.
> My personal solution would be a mouse with "Cut", "Copy" and "Paste" buttons.
This is the best solution I've heard. I've always wished logitech would release an updated version of the God of All Mice that had a wheel, infrared tracking and thumb and pinky buttons. Sadly, they seem to have abandoned their fat-fingered customer base. =(
> Alright, I'll bite... I'm gonna head under the bridge and talk to the troll...
Fine, fine. The last paragraph was intended (and clearly marked) as such.;)
> they need to consider "when Mac/Windows people arrive and want to bring their habits with them"
Fine, as long as I can still use the method I consider to be clearly superior.
> Because, in windows, you don't HAVE to use the keyboard and mouse to copy n' paste. You can simply highlight, right > click, choose copy, right click in another location, choose paste.
Explain to me how that method is faster and more convenient than highlight, middle-click. Be detailed.
> What I am saying is that many people don't understand why highlighting something would copy it
It doesn't. Middle clicking does.
> Shouldn't you have to take some sort of action to copy something?
Yes; middle click. Windows and Mac have left you with the idea that copy and paste have to be fundamentally seperate operations; they don't.
> How hard would it be to allow the user to choose a "Middle click required to copy text" checkbox?
Many people don't think you should have to take two seperate actions to accomplish one task (copying text from one place to another). Take a minute to think about that.
> for Linux to really take hold, it needs to adopt functionality that will allow users coming from other UI worlds to > function in a reasonably similar environment instead of having to adopt all sorts of strange new conventions.
Someone already adressed this with the familiar car/buggy-whip analogy. Nonetheless, if you'll reread my post you'll see I'm not calling for universal enforced adoption of select, middle-click. I want to see a choice in the window manager that all applications inherit. You can continue frobbing your keyboard if it makes you happy, I'll be blissfully single-clicking my copied text, and we can get on to bigger and better things.
Before the influx of Windowsisms caused by the attempts of Gnome/KDE to attract converts from Windows and Mac, there was a single standard that worked everywhere; highlight, middle click. The only app that I remember ever having trouble with it was Netscape 4, but that program had a whole host of problems besides UI issues. =)
The confusion arises when Mac/Windows people arrive and want to bring their habits with them. This is completely natural. However, there has been and will continue to be strong resistance (I'll lead it myself if needs be;) to abandoning those of us who think that highlight, middle click is vastly superior.
I think a more reasonable solution might have been to just stick with highlight, middle click as a single, consistant standard and just teach it to newcomers. At least you'd dodge the apparent confusion that comes from partial, but not universal support of their familiar method. Better, but more labor-intensive (the true capital of the open source world) would be to have selectable behavior by a global X-server level (or perhaps window manager level) toggle.
All that said, the idea of having to use both keyboard and mouse for such a fundamental operation is just so horrifyingly backwards and wrong, and it amazes me that anyone who's experienced X11 could possibly go back to such an arcane and user-hostile configuration.;-)</troll>
> Good security is well known. The techniques and procedures > studied by thousands of expert math and cypher experts.
The OP is pointing out that all security tech that we have now is based on something being secret. In the preferred model of open, "well known" security, the only secret the system depends on is the key. A bad security system also depends on the secrecy of the algorithm.
Your login system, even though it's probably based on a well-understood algorithm like MD5 or NTLM hash, is still completely dependent on you keeping your passphrase "obscure" from an attacker.
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> Is Opera on your handheld?
If he has a Zaurus it probably is.
http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/dev/mul ti ple/
> Atheism is the only religion I know of that's based around NOT believing something.
Atheists believe in reason. That said, I classify myself as a militant agnostic; I don't know the answers, and neither does anybody else.
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Life's too short to run Gentoo
seen on a bumper sticker
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>> What more could you want from a distro?
Apt. </joke>
In all seriousness, with the advent of apt-rpm, the only factor keeping me on debian is that the repositories aren't as mature yet. freshrpms.net gets REALLY close, though. If they'll get a semi-consistant naming policy like debian and get more uncommon stuff moved into there repos, I'll probably switch, if only to be running on and contributing to the emergent "standard" linux.
Well, it doesn't run -well- on affordable hardware.;)
Things will, of course, improve with time. It'll probably never let me run MacOS X on a PC as fast as it would run on a comparably priced mac. But it'll let me test my code / run applications from / generally admire OS X right here from the comfort of my happy Debian/IBM/GNU/Windowmaker/Linux laptop.
On a slight tangent, it would be nice to see Apple embrace this, maybe even help the project out with specs/docs. After I try out the copy of Jaguar I already own (I have a refurbished G3 that cost me $200, now that you mention it;) if (when) it works even usably well, you can rest assured I'll be buying a copy of Panther.
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>>Cedega (Se-day-gah) - [noun] - a unique variety of grape used to make some of the finest Port Wines in the world;
>So what they are saying is that it is the finest port of wine in the World...
Sokath, his eyes uncovered !
> You probably allready have Gator installed
One wonders if Spybot SD and Adaware will block this little snippet of malware, as they should...
The real win of this theme for me is, when you select small icons, it makes them by-god SMALL. I have limited screen real-estate on my laptop and need to squish those icons down all I can.
> What a blast from the pre-bust past, mixed with a bit of post-bust reality
-nod- And for the most part, it's straight-up. The atmosphere there is very easygoing. I worked there for quite a while, and still do part time. As compared to the hoops I jump through reporting time at my other job, the official time reporting instructions at emperor are "email me a float on the tenth of the month"
> Anyone have any ideas for Mission Impossible to stay ahead of the game?
Tom Cruise could always just rip the encoded message to his hard drive and watch it later....
> if they want to cut down on piracy they should try making the DVDs copy protected.
Or make them inexpensive and attractive enough (through catchy cover-art, bundled with extras like coupons for cinema
shows and so on) that people actually WANT to buy them instead of going to the trouble to dupe them.
Heaven forfend.
> In all honesty, does anyone think Mozilla will be able to overtake IE anytime soon?
I see it as kinda like Linux in this respect. That is, I don't care if it overtakes microsoft's
offering, so long as it remains vital and healthy and keeps on improving so -I- can keep using and
enjoying it. I don't care what anybody else does until it starts affecting me. The catch, though, is
that an open source project needs to have some minimal critical mass to stay vital.
> netscape 4 sucked scissors
Thank you for adding this expression to the vernacular, pbranes. I can guarantee you that 'sucks scissors' will be my favorite euphemism for not being any good for quite a while. =)
Watch the film Josie and the Pussycats. It does a pretty good job explaining this phenomenon.
Argh, I want a Big Mac !
> You'll be roasting slowly on a spit next to Weird Al for eternity.
Proving yet again why I don't want to go to heaven; all the interesting people aren't there !
"Four terminal windows at the same time."
Fucking A.
> Please show me where Google can find (not provide, merely find) a tutorial as good as you will find in this or
> any introductary book
http://tldp.org
Next!
> 2: You can't overwrite text. You have to paste in and then change the selection.
-nod- This is really the only issue I have with highlight, middle-click and I've learned to work around it (middle-clicking a url into the main window of most browsers, for instance). Not worth abandoning the overall much better model in my opinion.
> My personal solution would be a mouse with "Cut", "Copy" and "Paste" buttons.
This is the best solution I've heard. I've always wished logitech would release an updated version of the God of All Mice that had a wheel, infrared tracking and thumb and pinky buttons. Sadly, they seem to have abandoned their fat-fingered customer base. =(
> Alright, I'll bite... I'm gonna head under the bridge and talk to the troll...
;)
Fine, fine. The last paragraph was intended (and clearly marked) as such.
> they need to consider "when Mac/Windows people arrive and want to bring their habits with them"
Fine, as long as I can still use the method I consider to be clearly superior.
> Because, in windows, you don't HAVE to use the keyboard and mouse to copy n' paste. You can simply highlight, right
> click, choose copy, right click in another location, choose paste.
Explain to me how that method is faster and more convenient than highlight, middle-click. Be detailed.
> What I am saying is that many people don't understand why highlighting something would copy it
It doesn't. Middle clicking does.
> Shouldn't you have to take some sort of action to copy something?
Yes; middle click. Windows and Mac have left you with the idea that copy and paste have to be fundamentally seperate operations; they don't.
> How hard would it be to allow the user to choose a "Middle click required to copy text" checkbox?
Many people don't think you should have to take two seperate actions to accomplish one task (copying text from one place to another). Take a minute to think about that.
> for Linux to really take hold, it needs to adopt functionality that will allow users coming from other UI worlds to
> function in a reasonably similar environment instead of having to adopt all sorts of strange new conventions.
Someone already adressed this with the familiar car/buggy-whip analogy. Nonetheless, if you'll reread my post you'll
see I'm not calling for universal enforced adoption of select, middle-click. I want to see a choice in the window
manager that all applications inherit. You can continue frobbing your keyboard if it makes you happy, I'll be
blissfully single-clicking my copied text, and we can get on to bigger and better things.
Before the influx of Windowsisms caused by the attempts of Gnome/KDE to attract converts from Windows and Mac, there was a single standard that worked everywhere; highlight, middle click. The only app that I remember ever having trouble with it was Netscape 4, but that program had a whole host of problems besides UI issues. =)
;) to abandoning those of us who think that highlight, middle click is vastly superior.
;-)</troll>
The confusion arises when Mac/Windows people arrive and want to bring their habits with them. This is completely natural. However, there has been and will continue to be strong resistance (I'll lead it myself if needs be
I think a more reasonable solution might have been to just stick with highlight, middle click as a single, consistant standard and just teach it to newcomers. At least you'd dodge the apparent confusion that comes from partial, but not universal support of their familiar method. Better, but more labor-intensive (the true capital of the open source world) would be to have selectable behavior by a global X-server level (or perhaps window manager level) toggle.
All that said, the idea of having to use both keyboard and mouse for such a fundamental operation is just so horrifyingly backwards and wrong, and it amazes me that anyone who's experienced X11 could possibly go back to such an arcane and user-hostile configuration.
> Good security is well known. The techniques and procedures
> studied by thousands of expert math and cypher experts.
The OP is pointing out that all security tech that we have now is based on something being secret. In the preferred model of open, "well known" security, the only secret the system depends on is the key. A bad security system also depends on the secrecy of the algorithm.
Your login system, even though it's probably based on a well-understood algorithm like MD5 or NTLM hash, is still completely dependent on you keeping your passphrase "obscure" from an attacker.
> Is Opera on your handheld?
l ti ple/
If he has a Zaurus it probably is.
http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/dev/mu
> That would be rather amusing to see.
I wish the Atlanta police department had your sense of humor.
Brings to mind a quote:
People often pray for what they are unwilling to work for.
I cannot remember who said it, sadly, nor do I mean it to apply to the grandparent post. Just a meme I had bouncing around in muh head.
> Atheism is the only religion I know of that's based around NOT believing something.
Atheists believe in reason. That said, I classify myself as a militant agnostic; I don't know
the answers, and neither does anybody else.
Life's too short to run Gentoo
seen on a bumper sticker
>> What more could you want from a distro?
Apt.
</joke>
In all seriousness, with the advent of apt-rpm, the only factor keeping me on debian is that the repositories aren't as mature yet. freshrpms.net gets REALLY close, though. If they'll get a semi-consistant naming policy like debian and get more uncommon stuff moved into there repos, I'll probably switch, if only to be running on and contributing to the emergent "standard" linux.
Well, it doesn't run -well- on affordable hardware. ;)
;) if (when) it works even usably well, you can rest assured I'll be buying a copy of Panther.
Things will, of course, improve with time. It'll probably never let me run MacOS X on a PC as fast as it would run on a comparably priced mac. But it'll let me test my code / run applications from / generally admire OS X right here from the comfort of my happy Debian/IBM/GNU/Windowmaker/Linux laptop.
On a slight tangent, it would be nice to see Apple embrace this, maybe even help the project out with specs/docs. After I try out the copy of Jaguar I already own (I have a refurbished G3 that cost me $200, now that you mention it
Wow, that post ran long.
> And this is ever so much better than actually buying Mac hardware because...?
It runs on affordable hardware.
> How could you teach a course in warp propulsion dynamics, for example?
The River Temarc, Kadir beneath Mo Moteh:
*points to diagram of warp field*
Mirab, with sails unfurled !
*diagram of core breach / collapsing field*
Shaka, when the walls fell.