This is probably because their need for a graphics package is NOT great enough to either pay for a full license or learn how to use an unfamiliar program.
Shouldn't you also add a disaster recovery plan to that list? A "What do we do if our preventative measures fail?" kind of thing really comes in handy if you've missed something.
Script Kiddies will be throwing all of their latest downloads at it in search of fame but most other people capable of breaking into a webserver will probably be looking elsewhere for their targets. An XBox is a pretty rubbish incentive to anybody serious about breaking computer security which is why it's such a good stunt for IIS. They get a load of trffic from people who have no idea what they're doing and nobody breaks in...because they have no idea what they're doing. It'll make IIS 6 look good without testing it's security in any real way.
Wow, you should really try getting away from/. once in a while and stop getting all of your ideas about the linux user base solely from here. most linux users I've met have been level headed people who know it's not some religion or polical ideology.
Many colleges also provide the necessary software for their students. If they had Windows to run these OSS apps on in the first place then they probably had IE and Outlook by default. If they couldn't afford an office suite they could more than likely have obtained a legal copy from their college or an illegal copy from a friend.
There is a rather large list of people who use up a lot of bandwidth for legitimate and legal reasons. Gamers are among the first that come to mind. If an ISP were to start freezing or shutting down these peoples accounts they would most certainly move to another provider, causing the ISP to lose money and credibility. It's a very unwise business decision to sign up for something like this. It alienates a whole bunch of your customers, not just the techies and privacy advocates, opens you up for more liability and gives you that little bit less control over your customers records.
"*Plus most ISP's don't have to sign this. They already have TOS that give them the power to do the same."
Yep, which makes the whole idea of signing into another similar agreement all the more silly. At least with their own TOS they have control and don't get dictated to by somebody else. I can't see any reason for an ISP to sign up for it. It's a bad move and will lose the ISP customers (both current and potential).
"Judging by the "work != fun" response, I have to wonder if you're not in management?" Or in the wrong line of work. I know a few people who have been doing the same work for decades now and still love what they do. If you find the right job for you you'll always have fun. Most people seem to have either forgotten this or never been fortunate enough to meet a person who doesn't hate their job.
Exactly. I see no problem in google returning hits for their won services provided they don't do something Microsoftish and fill the entire first page of search results with hits for their own site. Currently I see only 2 hits for "traffic estimator" on the results page, and they're not even at number one. I've also tried various other searches based around the words in the title of the page. Only 2 brought up the page as the first hit.
It's an important suggestion. If every European member of/. was to write to their MEP it would cover a lot of ground in educating them about the issue and pushing them to turn up and vote against it.
Can the MEP's actually do anything? I thought it was the unelected part of the EU (the european council and their friends) that are doing all of the damage and not allowing the amendments to be made. I really hope that this all gets thrown out, if it doesn't developing software in Europe is going to get a whole lot messier.
Ah, so in other words your choice not to use OSS solutions has nothing to do with either technical merits or the culture surrounding OSS (which isn't as you suggested, a bunch of rabid zealots. They're just the loudest and more public of the community) it's about business decisions which is fair enough. Why didn't you say that in the first place? Or would it just have been off topic?
Of course, you *could* just support them both you know. Develop for the windows platform first (as most of your target audience is running wondows) and then get a couple of developers to port your solution over to linux or try and make sure the windows implimentation works with wine. Seriously, most of your customers are running windows but alienating the linux user base will win you no friends. Why not start trying to broaden your user base a little?
1) Will he even care what license he's actually using? Is he likely to take some of the source code and tinker with it? If not then he probably doesn't need to know anything about it apart from the fact he can get most of the software he needs fo free off of the internet and that he's allowed to give his friends copies.
2) Does he know what a kernel is? If not then don't mention anything about the kernel etc.
Why don't you just boot the computer up into xwindows and show him what kind of software he can use, where things are in the menus and generally all the superficial fun stuff. This is how i've always gone about it. Nobody outside of the software community is likely to be interested in the technical or political issues surrounding linux.
AFAIK having an unsanctioned monopoly is very much illegal. This is what patents and such things are for: they give the inventor a LEGAL monopoly for a period of time. If it's not granted by the authorities then it's illegal.
How about: Microsoft are bad and are getting what they deserve, but I wish it wasn't via getting sued for a software patent violation because software patents are bad and shouldn't exist.
Why do I feel like I should add an "m'kay?" on the end?
Which DVD player and what wireless network card? If it's an intel pro based network card tryout ipw2100 or something similar found at the same site.
If you're trying to use mplayer to play your DVD's you should try xine instead. It needs some extra libraries (such as libdvdcss etc) but I've found it to be less of a hassle to get going than mplayer (this is just what I've found and shouldn't be taken as the gospel truth).
If all else fails go here and see what other people have had success doing.
Most of the time they're just in the corner. On occasion they creep along the top or bottom of the screen but usually they're pretty subtle. I live in the UK, so maybe we havn't managed to get the more intrusive ones just yet....
Luckily the swirly logos are just in the corners at the moment. They don't bother me that much because I can ignore them if I want to. They voice overs etc during the credits are annoying though.
Minix is an OS built for teaching people about OS design. AFAIK Andrew Tananbaum doesn't WANT it developed into an enterprise OS so what's the point in throwing money at developing it towards this? If you want to make fixes and so on, go ahead and submit them to it's maintainer but I don't think Minix needs or wants a whole lot of development cash.
And if somebody walked into his office while he was in the bathroom? Management arn't really known for being security concious when it come to computers, so it's likely he didn't lock the screen (or log out) for the few minutes he's away from his desk. It'd be pretty easy to write an email and send it from HIS computer on HIS account and leave a nice electronic trail for somebody to follow and verify.
Ever heard of copyrights? You know, those things that currently give good protection to software developers (not to mention artists, writers etc) in Europe right now. Oh, but hang on, that can't be right can it? After all, surely we're all living in a dump right now because we don't have software patents to protect us. Now, I should really stop typing at my computer because it must be imaginary, turn off my radio to stop hearing those pirates playing illegal material and stare at the wall because I have no reason to do anything innovative.
Provided the kid knows and understands the risks involved in using certain drugs yes, why not? Just like it's my decision if I want to buy it.
Of course, although the kid deserves to have the right to mess themselves up, the parent also retains the right to get upset about it and try to stop them:-)
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This is probably because their need for a graphics package is NOT great enough to either pay for a full license or learn how to use an unfamiliar program.
Shouldn't you also add a disaster recovery plan to that list? A "What do we do if our preventative measures fail?" kind of thing really comes in handy if you've missed something.
How about a major drugs company showing the spread of a nasty disease that they happen to sell medication for?
Script Kiddies will be throwing all of their latest downloads at it in search of fame but most other people capable of breaking into a webserver will probably be looking elsewhere for their targets. An XBox is a pretty rubbish incentive to anybody serious about breaking computer security which is why it's such a good stunt for IIS. They get a load of trffic from people who have no idea what they're doing and nobody breaks in...because they have no idea what they're doing. It'll make IIS 6 look good without testing it's security in any real way.
Wow, you should really try getting away from /. once in a while and stop getting all of your ideas about the linux user base solely from here. most linux users I've met have been level headed people who know it's not some religion or polical ideology.
Many colleges also provide the necessary software for their students. If they had Windows to run these OSS apps on in the first place then they probably had IE and Outlook by default. If they couldn't afford an office suite they could more than likely have obtained a legal copy from their college or an illegal copy from a friend.
There is a rather large list of people who use up a lot of bandwidth for legitimate and legal reasons. Gamers are among the first that come to mind. If an ISP were to start freezing or shutting down these peoples accounts they would most certainly move to another provider, causing the ISP to lose money and credibility. It's a very unwise business decision to sign up for something like this. It alienates a whole bunch of your customers, not just the techies and privacy advocates, opens you up for more liability and gives you that little bit less control over your customers records.
"*Plus most ISP's don't have to sign this. They already have TOS that give them the power to do the same."
Yep, which makes the whole idea of signing into another similar agreement all the more silly. At least with their own TOS they have control and don't get dictated to by somebody else. I can't see any reason for an ISP to sign up for it. It's a bad move and will lose the ISP customers (both current and potential).
"Judging by the "work != fun" response, I have to wonder if you're not in management?"
Or in the wrong line of work. I know a few people who have been doing the same work for decades now and still love what they do. If you find the right job for you you'll always have fun. Most people seem to have either forgotten this or never been fortunate enough to meet a person who doesn't hate their job.
Exactly. I see no problem in google returning hits for their won services provided they don't do something Microsoftish and fill the entire first page of search results with hits for their own site.
Currently I see only 2 hits for "traffic estimator" on the results page, and they're not even at number one. I've also tried various other searches based around the words in the title of the page. Only 2 brought up the page as the first hit.
It's an important suggestion. If every European member of /. was to write to their MEP it would cover a lot of ground in educating them about the issue and pushing them to turn up and vote against it.
Can the MEP's actually do anything? I thought it was the unelected part of the EU (the european council and their friends) that are doing all of the damage and not allowing the amendments to be made. I really hope that this all gets thrown out, if it doesn't developing software in Europe is going to get a whole lot messier.
Ah, so in other words your choice not to use OSS solutions has nothing to do with either technical merits or the culture surrounding OSS (which isn't as you suggested, a bunch of rabid zealots. They're just the loudest and more public of the community) it's about business decisions which is fair enough. Why didn't you say that in the first place? Or would it just have been off topic?
Of course, you *could* just support them both you know. Develop for the windows platform first (as most of your target audience is running wondows) and then get a couple of developers to port your solution over to linux or try and make sure the windows implimentation works with wine. Seriously, most of your customers are running windows but alienating the linux user base will win you no friends. Why not start trying to broaden your user base a little?
1) Will he even care what license he's actually using? Is he likely to take some of the source code and tinker with it? If not then he probably doesn't need to know anything about it apart from the fact he can get most of the software he needs fo free off of the internet and that he's allowed to give his friends copies.
2) Does he know what a kernel is? If not then don't mention anything about the kernel etc.
Why don't you just boot the computer up into xwindows and show him what kind of software he can use, where things are in the menus and generally all the superficial fun stuff. This is how i've always gone about it. Nobody outside of the software community is likely to be interested in the technical or political issues surrounding linux.
But this would be a good thing wouldn't it? The more problems they find the more they can fix making it a better peice of software in the long run.
AFAIK having an unsanctioned monopoly is very much illegal. This is what patents and such things are for: they give the inventor a LEGAL monopoly for a period of time. If it's not granted by the authorities then it's illegal.
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How about:
Microsoft are bad and are getting what they deserve, but I wish it wasn't via getting sued for a software patent violation because software patents are bad and shouldn't exist.
Why do I feel like I should add an "m'kay?" on the end?
Which DVD player and what wireless network card? If it's an intel pro based network card tryout ipw2100 or something similar found at the same site.
If you're trying to use mplayer to play your DVD's you should try xine instead. It needs some extra libraries (such as libdvdcss etc) but I've found it to be less of a hassle to get going than mplayer (this is just what I've found and shouldn't be taken as the gospel truth).
If all else fails go here and see what other people have had success doing.
It's one of the first intelligent replies I've seen on this topic.
Like these ones?
Most of the time they're just in the corner. On occasion they creep along the top or bottom of the screen but usually they're pretty subtle. I live in the UK, so maybe we havn't managed to get the more intrusive ones just yet....
Luckily the swirly logos are just in the corners at the moment. They don't bother me that much because I can ignore them if I want to. They voice overs etc during the credits are annoying though.
Minix is an OS built for teaching people about OS design. AFAIK Andrew Tananbaum doesn't WANT it developed into an enterprise OS so what's the point in throwing money at developing it towards this? If you want to make fixes and so on, go ahead and submit them to it's maintainer but I don't think Minix needs or wants a whole lot of development cash.
And if somebody walked into his office while he was in the bathroom? Management arn't really known for being security concious when it come to computers, so it's likely he didn't lock the screen (or log out) for the few minutes he's away from his desk. It'd be pretty easy to write an email and send it from HIS computer on HIS account and leave a nice electronic trail for somebody to follow and verify.
Ever heard of copyrights? You know, those things that currently give good protection to software developers (not to mention artists, writers etc) in Europe right now. Oh, but hang on, that can't be right can it? After all, surely we're all living in a dump right now because we don't have software patents to protect us. Now, I should really stop typing at my computer because it must be imaginary, turn off my radio to stop hearing those pirates playing illegal material and stare at the wall because I have no reason to do anything innovative.
Really, get a clue.
Provided the kid knows and understands the risks involved in using certain drugs yes, why not? Just like it's my decision if I want to buy it.
:-)
Of course, although the kid deserves to have the right to mess themselves up, the parent also retains the right to get upset about it and try to stop them