Just have the program only record the first three octets of the address (24.72.35.XX). That way, if the notice any illegal activity, they don't know where it's coming from/going to, and would not have to report it. (IANAL, though.)
I have two accounts on my mail server. Account A is for personal mail, and Account B for other mail\mailing lists\etc.
For every person who I want sending me personal e-mail, I set up a redirect (@mydomain.tld) to Account A. If I begin receiving spam on that address, I simply delete it and inform the person. If they want to send me more mail, they can let me know, and I'll set up 2@mydomain.tld. After that, they get one more chance. If they screw that up, I just don't give them my address again.
For mailing lists or websites, I set up a redirect (slashdotorg@mydomain.tld) to Account B. If I start getting spam there, I delete the redirect. Then I get my shotgun and go 'hunting' =)
That may hold true, but in my computer, if I burn at 48x (the fastest cds I can buy for my 52x burner) they will either be full of errors or not burn completely. Why? My HD and IDE bus can't handle that much data (or at least I assume that's why).
In my case, burning at 24-32x is MUCH better than burning at 48-52x.
"I wouldn't care *why* you did it because the end result is the same regardless of your rationalizations to ease your conscience."
Not true.
I have little money, so I wouldn't be buying your software anyway, because I can't afford it. The end result? You don't get any money wether I download it or not, but since I am familiar with your product I am likely to recommend it to people, rather than some other product I have no experience with.
Ok, what about Joe Sixpack? Let's say he owns a business, and is looking for a good program to use for X. So he downloads program Y. The end result? If it is a good program and it does what he wants, then chances are Joe Sixpack will go out and purchase it. Since he already has experience with it, you can be fairly sure he will like it and stick with it, being a loyal customer. If he doesn't like it, he'll probably never use it again. So he just saved you the hassle of having to refund his money when he returned it.
My point? The end results are not always the same.
You say "nothing physical was stolen", so by that I believe you are implying that he was stealing something non-physical?
By downloading a copy of a song, you are not stealing it. That is equivalent to saying "He steals books because he photocopies pages out of the books at the library." See how stupid that sounds?
My point is, even if it is illegal to take a copy of the song, it is still not theft.
I forget the exact case but I remember seeing something about a cracker on the discovery channel where he cracked into Motorola or some other large phone manafactuer and took a copy of some cell phone plans to build himself a cell phone. They tried to try him for theft, but could not because Motorola had not actually lost anything. I believe that would set a legal precedent for such a thing? I am not a lawyer though.
I couldn't live without broadband either (or even lower speed broadband; low=20kb/s, hi=500kb/s), but people like my grandma can. She steadfastly refuses to pay the extra $5 a month for low speed broadband even, yet I can understand why.
Every day, once a day, she sits down at her computer, connects, downloads 5-10 small e-mails (mostly text) from friends, then disconnects, writes up replies, etc., then sends them out when she's done. That is ALL she does with her connection. She sees no reason to upgrade because her connection does what she wants. So even casual web surfing is not a problem for her, since she probably has no clue that the 'web' (HTTP\FTP communications) exists. To her, the internet is simply e-mail, a fast snail mail.
For anyone that uses the internet much, dial-up SUCKS, but for people like my grandma, it doesn't really matter.
I was reading in some W2K book or other (yes, I am forced to use windows:P) that there have been more reported cases of signed drivers crashing windows that non-signed. In my experience that is exactly right.
So I repeat your question: Why in the world would I trust them to decide what's "authorized" or not?
Slightly off-topic, but could someone tell me why they don't just throw the waste in an active volcano so it melts and makes it's way back to the mantle. It has lots of uranium in it anyway, does it not?
You're sitting at your desk late at night, working overtime. It's a nice cool day out. You have your window open. Suddenly, the bars drop over your windows. As you make your way into the lobby, you notice the security doors pulled down. Suddenly, a small security robot rolls up to you from behind a desk and says, "Give us the head of Darl McBride, or be boiled alive!"
Does any of that run on win32s?
My library has the good computers, running win 3.1 with Netscape 2 or 3, and the dumb terminals so old they don't support colour.
Broadband? *laughs* If you're getting.5kb/s downloads at the library your doing really good.
Buddy, my library is still running 3.1 with Netscape 2 or 3, no burners, no cd drives even, and one old, noisy dot matrix printer. Oh, and those are the 'good' computers.
The rest are just dumb terminals that don't even support color.
"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed." - Don Wood
Therefore, I must conclude that users are not ignorant, but stupid.
Most users, no matter how many times you show them, how many times you explain to them will still install spyware, run viruses, etc. They show no ability to learn, therefore, they are stupid.
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Just have the program only record the first three octets of the address (24.72.35.XX). That way, if the notice any illegal activity, they don't know where it's coming from/going to, and would not have to report it. (IANAL, though.)
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I have two accounts on my mail server. Account A is for personal mail, and Account B for other mail\mailing lists\etc.
For every person who I want sending me personal e-mail, I set up a redirect (@mydomain.tld) to Account A. If I begin receiving spam on that address, I simply delete it and inform the person. If they want to send me more mail, they can let me know, and I'll set up 2@mydomain.tld. After that, they get one more chance. If they screw that up, I just don't give them my address again.
For mailing lists or websites, I set up a redirect (slashdotorg@mydomain.tld) to Account B. If I start getting spam there, I delete the redirect. Then I get my shotgun and go 'hunting' =)
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</ASP>
Bah! I don't trust either!
I never trust a dictionary that can't spell "labour", "honour" or "colour" right!
</ASP>
"why wan't Microsoft listed?"
Probably because if they tried to sue Microsoft, the would have had their ass handed to them on a platter.
Let me put this another way:
They probably would have done about as well as a one-legged guy in an ass-kicking contest.
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No kidding. They probably would have stood as much of a chance as a one-legged guy in an ass-kicking contest.
</ASP>
That may hold true, but in my computer, if I burn at 48x (the fastest cds I can buy for my 52x burner) they will either be full of errors or not burn completely. Why? My HD and IDE bus can't handle that much data (or at least I assume that's why).
In my case, burning at 24-32x is MUCH better than burning at 48-52x.
</ASP>
How about md5sum or md5deep? md5sum comes with most linux distros, and md5deep is at md5deep.sf.net.
</ASP>
"you are fucking stealing."
/me boggles at your logic.
For the 50 millionth fricking time. Duplicating is not stealing something.
By your logic, I could say: "You steal from the library because you photocopy pages from books."
</ASP>
"I wouldn't care *why* you did it because the end result is the same regardless of your rationalizations to ease your conscience."
Not true.
I have little money, so I wouldn't be buying your software anyway, because I can't afford it. The end result? You don't get any money wether I download it or not, but since I am familiar with your product I am likely to recommend it to people, rather than some other product I have no experience with.
Ok, what about Joe Sixpack? Let's say he owns a business, and is looking for a good program to use for X. So he downloads program Y. The end result? If it is a good program and it does what he wants, then chances are Joe Sixpack will go out and purchase it. Since he already has experience with it, you can be fairly sure he will like it and stick with it, being a loyal customer. If he doesn't like it, he'll probably never use it again. So he just saved you the hassle of having to refund his money when he returned it.
My point? The end results are not always the same.
</ASP>
You say "nothing physical was stolen", so by that I believe you are implying that he was stealing something non-physical?
By downloading a copy of a song, you are not stealing it. That is equivalent to saying "He steals books because he photocopies pages out of the books at the library." See how stupid that sounds?
My point is, even if it is illegal to take a copy
of the song, it is still not theft.
I forget the exact case but I remember seeing something about a cracker on the discovery channel where he cracked into Motorola or some other large phone manafactuer and took a copy of some cell phone plans to build himself a cell phone. They tried to try him for theft, but could not because Motorola had not actually lost anything. I believe that would set a legal precedent for such a thing? I am not a lawyer though.
</ASP>
</ASP>
You mean like those millions of people that have pools in their back yard?
</ASP>
mOdovIncismOdovEnceris481248
and my windows password:
maGistermuNdisuM521252
Now, go ahead and find the boxes I used those on.
For anyone who was wondering: "Modo Vincis, Modo Venceris" = "You win some, you lose some."; "Magister Mundi Sum" = "Master of the Universe".
</ASP>
I couldn't live without broadband either (or even lower speed broadband; low=20kb/s, hi=500kb/s), but people like my grandma can. She steadfastly refuses to pay the extra $5 a month for low speed broadband even, yet I can understand why.
Every day, once a day, she sits down at her computer, connects, downloads 5-10 small e-mails (mostly text) from friends, then disconnects, writes up replies, etc., then sends them out when she's done. That is ALL she does with her connection. She sees no reason to upgrade because her connection does what she wants. So even casual web surfing is not a problem for her, since she probably has no clue that the 'web' (HTTP\FTP communications) exists. To her, the internet is simply e-mail, a fast snail mail.
For anyone that uses the internet much, dial-up SUCKS, but for people like my grandma, it doesn't really matter.
-<ASP>-
Or make yourself one with the goatse.cx guy.
"Here you go, it's super mario 3. Yep, sure is..."
I was reading in some W2K book or other (yes, I am forced to use windows :P) that there have been more reported cases of signed drivers crashing windows that non-signed. In my experience that is exactly right.
So I repeat your question: Why in the world would I trust them to decide what's "authorized" or not?
I sat and figure out your sig so you could tell me you have no sig? *shakes fist*
Slightly off-topic, but could someone tell me why they don't just throw the waste in an active volcano so it melts and makes it's way back to the mantle. It has lots of uranium in it anyway, does it not?
I hope SCO gets a few of these...
You're sitting at your desk late at night, working overtime. It's a nice cool day out. You have your window open. Suddenly, the bars drop over your windows. As you make your way into the lobby, you notice the security doors pulled down. Suddenly, a small security robot rolls up to you from behind a desk and says, "Give us the head of Darl McBride, or be boiled alive!"
Does any of that run on win32s? My library has the good computers, running win 3.1 with Netscape 2 or 3, and the dumb terminals so old they don't support colour. Broadband? *laughs* If you're getting .5kb/s downloads at the library your doing really good.
Buddy, my library is still running 3.1 with Netscape 2 or 3, no burners, no cd drives even, and one old, noisy dot matrix printer. Oh, and those are the 'good' computers.
The rest are just dumb terminals that don't even support color.
"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed."
- Don Wood
Therefore, I must conclude that users are not ignorant, but stupid.
Most users, no matter how many times you show them, how many times you explain to them will still install spyware, run viruses, etc. They show no ability to learn, therefore, they are stupid.
"Bob, you asshat. Get your ass over here. Did you BSOD our machine again? FUCK!"
Yes, may be good for the budget, but when all your employees end up in jail for homicide, well, then your screwed.