I saw a quote from someone at Bynari Inc. whining about how they couldn't find people with Linux skills in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. So I submitted a resume. Not too impressive, 2 year Computer Science degree, 2 years tech support, 2 years Unix administration (HP-UX, AIX, SCO), 3 years using Linux almost exclusively at home. The guy was complaining about having to train kids fresh out of high school, so I figured I would be a good catch.
I never heard back from them.
Now maybe I just write a shitty resumé, but the way the guy was talking they were hiring anyone who had even heard of Unix.
I wonder how many people they have working on visas right now...
I concur that money is the more powerful of the two in general circumstances. But when it comes down to the individual the threat of death is generally a more powerful motivator.
Anyway, we agree to my main point that power comes from many places.
Yesterday in Jon's article Sovereign Individual (Part One) he quoted The Sovereign Individual: Mastering The Transition To the Information Age, by James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg.
And it will involve a break with the past so profound that it will almost bring to life the magical domain of the gods as imagined by the early agricultural peoples like the ancient Greeks (and SF writers in games like Mage and Shadowrunner).
Not only did Jon lift the idea, he even got the name of Shadowrun wrong just like they did!
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
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So what's the application that will lend credible validation to Open Source?
Sendmail and Bind have been Open Source and running the internet for about 20 years...
Most opt to let the professional techs decide what is best for the network.
I should have joined the military... their commanding officers sound a good deal more intelligent than your average IT PHB (Director of Information Services / CIO for the geek-speak impaired).
Don't forget the steam-rollers... leprous armadillos are much more effective when you use steam-rollers, as is the donkey poo. And with steam-rollers you'll find that you use less ammunition in the machine guns.
"If J. Random Websurfer clicks on a button that promises dancing pigs on his computer monitor, and instead gets a hortatory message describing the potential dangers of the applet," Schneier writes, "he's going to choose the dancing pigs over computer security any day."
Make it dancing penguins and I'll give up security too. <grin>
What, they're going to sue every Russian and Finn that has a link? This is may be bad news for the States, but then again I don't think the Supreme Court is going to let this slide through.
Of course IANAL, so I'm very likely completely wrong...
The difference is that the linux community is not buying fold-out glossy ads in trade magazines hawking linux 2.4 as the best solution for your enterprise... even if we could afford those kinds of ads we wouldn't do it:)
Really? All my users hate the paper clip dude with a passion. And they are by no means techies. Many of them think they are turning the computer off when they switch of their monitor.:)
Vinyl sounds better. But to get a decent turntable, needle, and the vinyl itself you're going to spend a lot of money. CDs are cheap hifi, but they don't approach the richness of an analog recording on a killer turntable.
Of course that vinyl degrades quickly, even with lots of care and a well-balanced needle. CDs are literally orders of magnitude cheaper in the long run and they do sound quite good, despite the infamous clipping of the "inaudible" frequencies.
There are still a lot of people that buy new turntables and vinyl. They spend lots of dough on the stuff... they are the same people who buy vacuum tube powered (sometimes liquid-cooled!) amplifiers for $10,000 + a pop.
No because Linux is ours. Linux is free (as in speech, not to mention beer). We can do with it what we will and no one can ever take it away from us or restrict it's use.
Is that not a good thing?
Would you rather have your own kitchen or a McDonald's next to your living room? (Don't answer that:^)
It makes them more secure against an automated worm which would have to figure out which client it's currently being opened with and then choose a vulnerability from there.
I wonder if they even talk about ISAM, hash tables and B+ trees in Computer Science these days.
No we don't study those algorithms anymore... they're all patented so we're not allowed to have them in our textbooks, or even think about them. Isn't the industry wonderful?
No really, we don't study that stuff we just skip from "hello world" to advanced AI studies... those old algorithms are out of style. I wouldn't be caught dead with a B+ tree, I mean really.
Who cares about CP/M anyway? I mean you can't expect people to know that shit. It's like expecting them to know how to use punch cards to code with. DOS is still used in production environments, and it's not that much of a stretch to expect a "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer" (what did you say? engineer? you mean you went to college? no? oh i must have you confused with those other engineers... you must mean engineer like on the railroad) to be able to fscking install DOS. Anyone who can read and switch floppies can install DOS 6.22.
For instance, compare supporting a Samba server running off a Linux box serving 1,000 users to a Windows 2000 solution doing the same thing.
Well that's hardly fair... SMB is native to Windows and a shittier protocol would be hard to find. Samba is reverse engineered and pasted onto unix like a big clown's nose.
NFS might be a better comparison since it is an open protocol... I'll bet on linux being easier.
Myopic and short-sighted? Inacurrate and incorrect? Man, you need to drop that thesaurus before you hurt someone.;^)
BTW, where is your nick from? It's familiar and I have a mental image of a short person connected with it... but I can't for the life of me remember where it comes from.
Hmmm... why not just use NetBSD or something and don't install X. No reason to make it impossible just because you don't like it;)
Heck I have an old 486 Thinkpad running Slackware 7.0 that won't run X and I use it all the time... the old Unix is still there under all that glitz. Vi, TeX, bash, gcc, m4, perl, even Emacs if you like whips and chains (joke).
I think the article is dead on. Case in point:
I saw a quote from someone at Bynari Inc. whining about how they couldn't find people with Linux skills in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. So I submitted a resume. Not too impressive, 2 year Computer Science degree, 2 years tech support, 2 years Unix administration (HP-UX, AIX, SCO), 3 years using Linux almost exclusively at home. The guy was complaining about having to train kids fresh out of high school, so I figured I would be a good catch.
I never heard back from them.
Now maybe I just write a shitty resumé, but the way the guy was talking they were hiring anyone who had even heard of Unix.
I wonder how many people they have working on visas right now...
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Touché.
I concur that money is the more powerful of the two in general circumstances. But when it comes down to the individual the threat of death is generally a more powerful motivator.
Anyway, we agree to my main point that power comes from many places.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Yesterday in Jon's article Sovereign Individual (Part One) he quoted The Sovereign Individual: Mastering The Transition To the Information Age, by James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg.
And it will involve a break with the past so profound that it will almost bring to life the magical domain of the gods as imagined by the early agricultural peoples like the ancient Greeks (and SF writers in games like Mage and Shadowrunner).
Not only did Jon lift the idea, he even got the name of Shadowrun wrong just like they did!
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
So what's the application that will lend credible validation to Open Source?
Sendmail and Bind have been Open Source and running the internet for about 20 years...
Where have you been?
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Power comes from many things... don't think a fat wallet is going to protect you from a mugger with a gun. Quite the opposite, in fact.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
"QueueFeline" (sorry..."Queue:Feline"), perhaps?
I don't know... I kind of like Q:Pussy
:^D
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Are they robotic too?
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Most opt to let the professional techs decide what is best for the network.
I should have joined the military... their commanding officers sound a good deal more intelligent than your average IT PHB (Director of Information Services / CIO for the geek-speak impaired).
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Don't forget the steam-rollers... leprous armadillos are much more effective when you use steam-rollers, as is the donkey poo. And with steam-rollers you'll find that you use less ammunition in the machine guns.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
"If J. Random Websurfer clicks on a button that promises dancing pigs on his computer monitor, and instead gets a hortatory message describing the potential dangers of the applet," Schneier writes, "he's going to choose the dancing pigs over computer security any day."
Make it dancing penguins and I'll give up security too. <grin>
Wait a minute... hortatory?
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
This is nothing but bad news for the world.
What, they're going to sue every Russian and Finn that has a link? This is may be bad news for the States, but then again I don't think the Supreme Court is going to let this slide through.
Of course IANAL, so I'm very likely completely wrong...
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
You could do it, if you can foot the bill and deal with the support calls from people who don't know what an OS is...
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
The difference is that the linux community is not buying fold-out glossy ads in trade magazines hawking linux 2.4 as the best solution for your enterprise... even if we could afford those kinds of ads we wouldn't do it :)
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Pantsless reboots? Oh man... I'm so there!
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Really? All my users hate the paper clip dude with a passion. And they are by no means techies. Many of them think they are turning the computer off when they switch of their monitor. :)
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Vinyl sounds better. But to get a decent turntable, needle, and the vinyl itself you're going to spend a lot of money. CDs are cheap hifi, but they don't approach the richness of an analog recording on a killer turntable.
Of course that vinyl degrades quickly, even with lots of care and a well-balanced needle. CDs are literally orders of magnitude cheaper in the long run and they do sound quite good, despite the infamous clipping of the "inaudible" frequencies.
There are still a lot of people that buy new turntables and vinyl. They spend lots of dough on the stuff... they are the same people who buy vacuum tube powered (sometimes liquid-cooled!) amplifiers for $10,000 + a pop.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
OK.
I should have said "For me, and many others who value software freedom, here's why it's a superior solution."
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
No because Linux is ours. Linux is free (as in speech, not to mention beer). We can do with it what we will and no one can ever take it away from us or restrict it's use.
Is that not a good thing?
Would you rather have your own kitchen or a McDonald's next to your living room? (Don't answer that :^)
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
It makes them more secure against an automated worm which would have to figure out which client it's currently being opened with and then choose a vulnerability from there.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Well sure you can read your email, but what about calendar, tasks, and contacts? Groupware is more than just email...
Personally, I hate Exchange and would rather have seperate clients for those functions... but I ain't the PHB ;^\
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
I wonder if they even talk about ISAM, hash tables and B+ trees in Computer Science these days.
No we don't study those algorithms anymore... they're all patented so we're not allowed to have them in our textbooks, or even think about them. Isn't the industry wonderful?
No really, we don't study that stuff we just skip from "hello world" to advanced AI studies... those old algorithms are out of style. I wouldn't be caught dead with a B+ tree, I mean really.
Who cares about CP/M anyway? I mean you can't expect people to know that shit. It's like expecting them to know how to use punch cards to code with. DOS is still used in production environments, and it's not that much of a stretch to expect a "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer" (what did you say? engineer? you mean you went to college? no? oh i must have you confused with those other engineers... you must mean engineer like on the railroad) to be able to fscking install DOS. Anyone who can read and switch floppies can install DOS 6.22.
I take that back. Apparently not anyone.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
For instance, compare supporting a Samba server running off a Linux box serving 1,000 users to a Windows 2000 solution doing the same thing.
Well that's hardly fair... SMB is native to Windows and a shittier protocol would be hard to find. Samba is reverse engineered and pasted onto unix like a big clown's nose.
NFS might be a better comparison since it is an open protocol... I'll bet on linux being easier.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Myopic and short-sighted? Inacurrate and incorrect? Man, you need to drop that thesaurus before you hurt someone. ;^)
BTW, where is your nick from? It's familiar and I have a mental image of a short person connected with it... but I can't for the life of me remember where it comes from.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Have you looked at PostgreSQL?
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Hmmm... why not just use NetBSD or something and don't install X. No reason to make it impossible just because you don't like it ;)
Heck I have an old 486 Thinkpad running Slackware 7.0 that won't run X and I use it all the time... the old Unix is still there under all that glitz. Vi, TeX, bash, gcc, m4, perl, even Emacs if you like whips and chains (joke).
Yumyumyum!
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"