Then the RIAA will simply go to a court, get some people who have access to testify about all the infringement going on, and then gain access. More likely they said there was possible infringement, someone looked at it and agreed, and the RIAA got access. Its not like the I2 people want this sort of crap on their network, since then they may be liable if the RIAA decides to sue for access or something.
Grandparent said "industry" which I took to mean products not research. Parent then said that stopping products would kill research so everythign should be allowed. Or at least thats how I understood it.
You just defined science, good job. See unliek religion science doesn't pretend to know the "truth" but simply have theories as to what the truth might be. So as they get new evidence they change their theories. Now, you might ask what's the point? Well quite simply the theories seem to be rather close to the "truth" (by definition really, if new evidence contradicts a theory it needs to be revised) so they can be used to predict things. For example, you can use the theories of Newton to describe a ball falling down even though we know they are not really correct. Nevertheless for many problems they provide a very good way of predicting effects. Evolution too can be used to predict many things and a simple search through a scientific paper database (such as PubMed) will show a vast amount of papers which use evolution in one way or another.
huh? Nano-tech is simply making things really small, and besides the potential pollution from such devices the enviromental impact is not much worse than for any other substance.
I find people like this amusing, they keep "fighting the man" or claim other "radical views" and yet when it comes down to it they cave in instantly. If you belive in something then be prepared to make sacrifices for your views since words are cheap.
As someone else said, free software (in the sense of no copyrights) and open course software are two different things. Well unless you like trying to decompile the free binaries you got.
Photons have no mass since moving at the speed of light requires no mass. They do have momentum but that is not how they cut metal. They have a lot of energy which is how they cut metal. It's really quite simple, lots of heat causes metal to melt thus a laser can cut metal by applying a lot of energy (which gets absorbed and transformed into heat) to the metal in a small area.
In retroscept a better reason is: It gives minimal return but requires a large cost (both current and future). In addition, due to human limitations if such a method is used with something as massive as a modern OS it is likely to lead to bugs. Dev time does not scale linearly with complexity, and that's with all the nice tricks like modules.
How many people drive F1 cars, how many cars does the team need to support? Add that to your analogy and it falls apart instantly. On a specific design, using specific component, for a specific purpose, with a decently sized team you can do things at the "F1" level. Windows is not such an environment just as a regular car is not one.
If your oh so lovely F1 team tried to do this for customer grade cars then it would be getting returns left and right, and people complaining that their mechanics won't work on the cars because it's too hard.
If it was MS (if you use msn search or whatever their search engine is) made their products come out on top using such tactics then everyone would be trying to join the lynch mob. However if google does it its fine.
What I do find interesting is that they needed the keywords, and didn't just raise their rank artificially. Does the google algorithm not have such a feature in it (or not have it easily accessible)? Potentially it does but google chose to not use it. In either case this is nicer than what I'd see other companies doing in such a case, since I doubt they'd bother with keywords on their own search engine.
There is no case that I no of where gun control has resulted in a visible lowering of the murder rate. Well there was a small decrease but there was one in the US as well during the time period.
So you educate yourself: http://www.hardylaw.net/FailedExperiment.pdf
There is always poverty, war and corruption. If you think throwing $10 billion or $100 billion at education will do anything to solve the problems you truly do not understand the causes. Social problems are insanely hard to fix using money alone or non-draconian laws.
If you care so much about education then why are you opposed to Nasa? Those $10 billion are probably well worth the interest they generate in science among children. Smaller classrooms are worth jack shit if children don't want to learn and their parents are too lazy to make them study.
The summit seems to me like it's another attempt at "Make everyone equal, make everyone mediocre."
Talk is cheap and everything seems great in theory. Please provide me with some calculations of the required fuel, size of the required aircraft, how much less fuel it takes, etc.
If you don't have those (either done by yourself or by someone else) then you are to me spouting crap.
They could sue the kids but guess who pays in the end anyway? Also the internet account is under the parent's name, so the parents would probably get sued. I guess they could try and have the BPI sue their kids instead but most parents actually care about their children. Also since the parents represent their kids they would be the ones to deal with the BPI lawyers anyway.
Except that they also sell phone services. In essence they are abusing their "monopoly" in one area so as to drive out competition in another area. It's akin to Microsoft preventing you from using Firefox.
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Then the RIAA will simply go to a court, get some people who have access to testify about all the infringement going on, and then gain access. More likely they said there was possible infringement, someone looked at it and agreed, and the RIAA got access. Its not like the I2 people want this sort of crap on their network, since then they may be liable if the RIAA decides to sue for access or something.
Grandparent said "industry" which I took to mean products not research. Parent then said that stopping products would kill research so everythign should be allowed. Or at least thats how I understood it.
You just defined science, good job. See unliek religion science doesn't pretend to know the "truth" but simply have theories as to what the truth might be. So as they get new evidence they change their theories. Now, you might ask what's the point?
Well quite simply the theories seem to be rather close to the "truth" (by definition really, if new evidence contradicts a theory it needs to be revised) so they can be used to predict things. For example, you can use the theories of Newton to describe a ball falling down even though we know they are not really correct. Nevertheless for many problems they provide a very good way of predicting effects.
Evolution too can be used to predict many things and a simple search through a scientific paper database (such as PubMed) will show a vast amount of papers which use evolution in one way or another.
Technically evolution says nothing about how life began, simply what happened afterwards.
So if they find that substance X may cause permenant brain damage they should continue to allow products with substance X to be sold?
huh?
Nano-tech is simply making things really small, and besides the potential pollution from such devices the enviromental impact is not much worse than for any other substance.
So the goverment will need to find other things to tax so as to make up the difference, in the end you pay just as many taxes.
Neither would real people.
Trucks and buses vs cars...hmmm...nope no difference at all in terms of damage during accidents.
Power plants may be more efficient than car engines.
I find people like this amusing, they keep "fighting the man" or claim other "radical views" and yet when it comes down to it they cave in instantly. If you belive in something then be prepared to make sacrifices for your views since words are cheap.
I'm sure criminals would just love to have the FBI tell them before hand that they are being investigated so that they can destroy all evidence.
As someone else said, free software (in the sense of no copyrights) and open course software are two different things. Well unless you like trying to decompile the free binaries you got.
Photons have no mass since moving at the speed of light requires no mass. They do have momentum but that is not how they cut metal. They have a lot of energy which is how they cut metal. It's really quite simple, lots of heat causes metal to melt thus a laser can cut metal by applying a lot of energy (which gets absorbed and transformed into heat) to the metal in a small area.
In retroscept a better reason is: It gives minimal return but requires a large cost (both current and future). In addition, due to human limitations if such a method is used with something as massive as a modern OS it is likely to lead to bugs. Dev time does not scale linearly with complexity, and that's with all the nice tricks like modules.
How many people drive F1 cars, how many cars does the team need to support? Add that to your analogy and it falls apart instantly. On a specific design, using specific component, for a specific purpose, with a decently sized team you can do things at the "F1" level. Windows is not such an environment just as a regular car is not one.
If your oh so lovely F1 team tried to do this for customer grade cars then it would be getting returns left and right, and people complaining that their mechanics won't work on the cars because it's too hard.
If you remove the top few percent from both the US and European numbers (ie: the richest people) then the numbers become more or less equal.
If it was MS (if you use msn search or whatever their search engine is) made their products come out on top using such tactics then everyone would be trying to join the lynch mob. However if google does it its fine.
What I do find interesting is that they needed the keywords, and didn't just raise their rank artificially. Does the google algorithm not have such a feature in it (or not have it easily accessible)? Potentially it does but google chose to not use it. In either case this is nicer than what I'd see other companies doing in such a case, since I doubt they'd bother with keywords on their own search engine.
There is no case that I no of where gun control has resulted in a visible lowering of the murder rate. Well there was a small decrease but there was one in the US as well during the time period. So you educate yourself: http://www.hardylaw.net/FailedExperiment.pdf
How the fuck can you talk about "critical thinking" when you don't even read the damn article?
There is always poverty, war and corruption. If you think throwing $10 billion or $100 billion at education will do anything to solve the problems you truly do not understand the causes. Social problems are insanely hard to fix using money alone or non-draconian laws. If you care so much about education then why are you opposed to Nasa? Those $10 billion are probably well worth the interest they generate in science among children. Smaller classrooms are worth jack shit if children don't want to learn and their parents are too lazy to make them study. The summit seems to me like it's another attempt at "Make everyone equal, make everyone mediocre."
Nasa is not supposed to solely send people into space, you do know that right? I mean, those Mars rovers, ion drives, etc. don't mean jack shit right?
Talk is cheap and everything seems great in theory. Please provide me with some calculations of the required fuel, size of the required aircraft, how much less fuel it takes, etc.
If you don't have those (either done by yourself or by someone else) then you are to me spouting crap.
They could sue the kids but guess who pays in the end anyway? Also the internet account is under the parent's name, so the parents would probably get sued. I guess they could try and have the BPI sue their kids instead but most parents actually care about their children.
Also since the parents represent their kids they would be the ones to deal with the BPI lawyers anyway.
Except that they also sell phone services. In essence they are abusing their "monopoly" in one area so as to drive out competition in another area.
It's akin to Microsoft preventing you from using Firefox.