on contra it depended if you were playing with a friend or not and you were so excited to play that you couldn't wait and see the select chose the number of players.
avoiding advertisements is nice, but what would really get me to lay down some subscription money?... the ability to only read stories that don't mention the word "blog".
I have had great luck with the digital innovations motorized automax. have fixed the same CD several times in some cases. I tested digital audio gear in a factory for a couple of years, and now I work construction (low voltage electrical), so my CDs get pretty beat up. I have never had one that I couldn't fix in this thing.
hey everybody...
If I ignore this issue will it just go away? I am a typical American insensitive clod, so I was hoping I could use my usual tactics on this one...
these guys really didn't have to EVER fix this, much less a week later. if all hardware manufacturers were this responsive the world of technology would be a better place.
responding to your last paragraph, you insulted me first saying I was juvenile. if you think I am angry, you should talk to your doctor about a sense of humor transplant.
to respond to your #2,
yes I have contributed modifications to open source, yes I have written a fairly complex program and given it away, (nothing huge, but the biggest project I worked on approximately 6 hours a day, 5 days a week for 2.5 months or so) no I have not ever written code that was sold.
I thought I had explained my views. Yes I am part of the M$ bashing crowd, yes I love open source and hate closed source software. I told you I don't know anything about closed source software so I am not the guy to ask for examples. I can name MANY great open source programs, but I have no idea if there is a commercial equivalent, I assume there usually is. open source code in itself is a feature in my book, and no closed source software has it.
I am not the purist you might think I am. I have a few scraps of closed source software around, (flash plugin comes to mind), but 10 years ago I used exclusively closed source. 20 years ago, most of the things I do with a computer could not be done with free software, in the last 2 months I have not needed closed source for anything... hasn't even crossed my mind to even run any, not once. that is what I mean when I say free and open source software is "closing the gap". A non-computer-geek (he is working on a math PhD) friend of mine called the other day and said he switched to linux a couple of weeks ago, he is using it at home, in the office, for everything. He said he was done with commercial software and is very happy with what he is using now.
believe me I understand your point. My prediction is that someone, (likely google in my opinion) will come up with a way to make a few dollars off of a person using their distro.... so 100% of that. If the software works and is nearly free, and is advertised (the critical missing piece thus far)... I believe the day will come when people decide to use it. then there is the whole issue of selling tech support packages and all the old tricks we have already seen.
I do get your point though.
I don't really know anything about closed source software since it is so goddamn expe$ive. heh, I am sure that I am the only one juvenile enough on slashdot to ever call them M$.... you are a tool. I will use YOUR term commercial software throughout to refer to closed source software, to avoid confusion.
nothing equivalent to portage in the commercial software realm... at least not that I am aware of. A program that can download an entire OS and complete set of whatever application source code I want, and compile it for whatever embedded device I want to dev for, with just a handful of simple commands...
I don't think I have EVER heard someone say that apache has a counterpart in the "commercial software world", at least not one that is worth the money.
besides, to say that commercial software is years ahead of its OSS alternative is silly for several reasons.
1. computer technology is ALWAYS years ahead of the functionality that the average desktop user needs,
2. one thing that commercial software will NEVER have is a way for me to add my own custom feature and give it away. that freedom is important to me, and many others. If you make a copy, that does not REMOVE a copy from me, so why should I give a shit.
I could continue, but I am no longer interested in typing at an AC tool.
why can't we just ignore them? I mean seriously, if there is one thing we (oss guys) can agree on... SURELY this is it. For many years, hate for M$ has been the only thing that the free software community could agree on.
why can't the entire free software crowd just stand up and say "No thanks", we aren't interested in what you have to say.
if you think that M$ will ever help free software in any meaningful way, you obviously haven't been paying attention over the past couple decades.
there is good news in this though. M$ is obviously noticing that every day there are people installing linux who used to use window$. They know that linux on the desktop is closing the gap and many other companies stand to profit from it. After years of pretending OSS didn't exist, or worse yet, attacking it in underhanded ways, they don't have a piece of the action. This whole M$/oss thing, just means they are realizing there is a chance that maybe OSS really IS the next big thing.
My prediction is that a huge company with unlimited resources like google will package up a nice, distro, call it something flashy, advertise the hell out of it, and give it away for free. I am well aware of the options that already exist, but the average person is not. It takes flashy marketing to capture the market.
how can M$ possibly compete with other companies who come in at a price point nearly $0, with a better product, a good ad campaign, AND profit margins of nearly 100%? They can't. Someday the house of cards will fall. They know it, they think, they can adapt by getting involved with OSS. They will fail because we hate them.
WAAAAHHHGHGHGH, I am soooooo excited about this. I even use extra oooooo's in sooooo to illustrate my happiness.
seriously, tron was a huge part of my childhood. I used to have a VHS taped from a TV broadcast. I had the movie, and the commercials memorized. I would plant my ass in front of the TV, watch my Tron, and make my legos. I would be sitting there building a castle or something, and muttering the dialog along with the movie, then, the commercials would come on and I would continue: "Heart disease, kidney disease, and blindness, are all signs...".
Do you think we can merge with this memory, bit?
my older brother and sister had an intellivision,so I came up playing that. (I was born in 1981) my FAVORITE game was Tron, Deadly Discs. it remained my favorite game until the NES hit a few years later.
I used to get my parents to take me to chuck-e-cheese's (a pizza video game place if you are from far off lands, I am not a totally insensitive clod), and I would take all the tokens and pump them into the tron machine. Mom would say "wouldn't you like to try some other games?"....
"BUT MOOOOOM! I WANNA PLAY MY TRON! Can I watch my tron when I get home?"
"Kelly, you have seen that program a million times, don't you think you should get outside and play?"
"MOM! WHO YOU CALLIN A PROGRAM, PROGRAM?!?
"kelly you need your exercise"
"BUT MO-OM! I am playing the game and I wanna go watch the movie and make my legos!"
you are just the best first poster ever. quick, funny, and in no way relevant. Honestly sir, you are the reason why I come to/. thanks, and keep up the good work
you make an excellent point. I don't dispute it at all. I would point out though, that Cumcast is doing this to increase profits. Sort of my original point, the guys providing this service want to make lots of money, not provide you with a perfect product.
if we are lucky they take a portion of the increased profits and reinvest it in giving us better service in some way, or maybe we trade some TV picture quality for some extra speed on the data side.
again I am not arguing. I think it sucks too, but not because it isn't improving, just because it isn't "there yet". Cumcast is providing a better, faster, more feature packed service than they were 10 years ago. hopefully this trend continues, even if it is at a snail pace. With the current economic structure this is the best we can hope for.
The funny thing is that people still seem to like HDTV.... you know why? because it _IS_ better than the picture quality we had before.
I professionally install home theater systems, and most of our customers are very happy with the end result. I get what this article is going for (not that I read it, or anything), and I wish it could be better, but unfortunately the world of business never comes up with anything that is perfect... because to develop perfect tech would cost infinite money, which would significantly cut into profits.
take any technology standard and leave it to a bunch of linux geeks (myself included) to pick it apart and point out the flaws. sometimes I think our time could be better spent designing something better, rather than badmouthing that which already exists.
So? What good will your un-Trusted hardware do, when all ISPs (by law) refuse to allow it to connect to the Internet?
well... before the internet we had access to many BBSs in most areas. Between phone and wireless communication we would see these systems return.
remember... humans did survive before the internet... it wasn't that long ago either. communication would not be impossible, in fact with modern communications tech we would have even more options than before. the sky isn't falling... completely... yet
hi,
you should know that I have nothing more than a high school diploma, but physics was my favorite area of geekery for many years during and after school I had an awesome physics teacher for three years in high school.. actually the best teacher I ever had, so you may be way ahead of me on this stuff, but I have a couple of tips to pass on that helped me to understand some fairly advanced physics stuff.
it is very important when you are getting started in physics, that you understand the historical time line of which theories were popular at different times.
I would recommend digging through a couple of those paperback physics overview kind of books. I don't know what the latest popular ones are, but I am talking about the ones that you find at a regular book store in the science section. I have read a bunch of these, they cover nothing in detail but discuss chronologically how each important physicist built on previous works. usually they start with newtonian stuff and work forward to present day.
since you already have a math background, I would say it is more important to go over stuff conceptually in the beginning. The most important book I can recommend, if you haven't already read it, is in search of shrodinger's cat: quantum physics and reality. by John Gribbin
that book will get your mind around the important ideas in quantum physics, making it much easier to apply math to it later.
both pure and non-pure desktops are already available... I suspect it will stay that way. It is wise for any open source user to develop an awareness of these issues and decide what lines to cross.
besides, if the answer to the question in the title is no, then what do you propose we do? build some sort of free software enforcement team, sneak in through the duct work, and assassinate anyone sneaking a binary into a linux distro?....
on second thought, maybe that isn't such a bad idea....
Slashdot Mirror
no no no, that makes no sense. It must be a large collection of missing left socks!!!
Jean-Luc Picard: Begin auto-destruct sequence, authorization Picard-four-seven-alpha-tango.
Beverly Crusher: Computer, Commander Beverly Crusher. Confirm auto-destruct sequence, authorization Crusher-two-two-beta-Charlie.
Worf: Computer, Lieutenant Commander Worf. Confirm auto-destruct sequence. Authorization Worf-three-seven-gamma-echo.
Computer: Command authorization accepted. Awaiting final code to begin auto-destruct sequence.
on contra it depended if you were playing with a friend or not and you were so excited to play that you couldn't wait and see the select chose the number of players.
avoiding advertisements is nice, but what would really get me to lay down some subscription money?... the ability to only read stories that don't mention the word "blog".
I can't be the only one who feels this way...
DAMNIT
where
are
my
mod
points?
I have had great luck with the digital innovations motorized automax. have fixed the same CD several times in some cases. I tested digital audio gear in a factory for a couple of years, and now I work construction (low voltage electrical), so my CDs get pretty beat up. I have never had one that I couldn't fix in this thing.
hey everybody...
If I ignore this issue will it just go away? I am a typical American insensitive clod, so I was hoping I could use my usual tactics on this one...
excuse me, I hafta go watch some baseball.
these guys really didn't have to EVER fix this, much less a week later. if all hardware manufacturers were this responsive the world of technology would be a better place.
responding to your last paragraph, you insulted me first saying I was juvenile. if you think I am angry, you should talk to your doctor about a sense of humor transplant.
to respond to your #2, yes I have contributed modifications to open source, yes I have written a fairly complex program and given it away, (nothing huge, but the biggest project I worked on approximately 6 hours a day, 5 days a week for 2.5 months or so) no I have not ever written code that was sold.
I thought I had explained my views. Yes I am part of the M$ bashing crowd, yes I love open source and hate closed source software. I told you I don't know anything about closed source software so I am not the guy to ask for examples. I can name MANY great open source programs, but I have no idea if there is a commercial equivalent, I assume there usually is. open source code in itself is a feature in my book, and no closed source software has it.
I am not the purist you might think I am. I have a few scraps of closed source software around, (flash plugin comes to mind), but 10 years ago I used exclusively closed source. 20 years ago, most of the things I do with a computer could not be done with free software, in the last 2 months I have not needed closed source for anything... hasn't even crossed my mind to even run any, not once. that is what I mean when I say free and open source software is "closing the gap". A non-computer-geek (he is working on a math PhD) friend of mine called the other day and said he switched to linux a couple of weeks ago, he is using it at home, in the office, for everything. He said he was done with commercial software and is very happy with what he is using now.
tool
-later
believe me I understand your point. My prediction is that someone, (likely google in my opinion) will come up with a way to make a few dollars off of a person using their distro.... so 100% of that. If the software works and is nearly free, and is advertised (the critical missing piece thus far)... I believe the day will come when people decide to use it. then there is the whole issue of selling tech support packages and all the old tricks we have already seen. I do get your point though.
I don't really know anything about closed source software since it is so goddamn expe$ive. heh, I am sure that I am the only one juvenile enough on slashdot to ever call them M$.... you are a tool. I will use YOUR term commercial software throughout to refer to closed source software, to avoid confusion.
nothing equivalent to portage in the commercial software realm... at least not that I am aware of. A program that can download an entire OS and complete set of whatever application source code I want, and compile it for whatever embedded device I want to dev for, with just a handful of simple commands...
I don't think I have EVER heard someone say that apache has a counterpart in the "commercial software world", at least not one that is worth the money.
besides, to say that commercial software is years ahead of its OSS alternative is silly for several reasons.
1. computer technology is ALWAYS years ahead of the functionality that the average desktop user needs,
2. one thing that commercial software will NEVER have is a way for me to add my own custom feature and give it away. that freedom is important to me, and many others. If you make a copy, that does not REMOVE a copy from me, so why should I give a shit. I could continue, but I am no longer interested in typing at an AC tool.
why can't we just ignore them? I mean seriously, if there is one thing we (oss guys) can agree on... SURELY this is it. For many years, hate for M$ has been the only thing that the free software community could agree on.
why can't the entire free software crowd just stand up and say "No thanks", we aren't interested in what you have to say.
if you think that M$ will ever help free software in any meaningful way, you obviously haven't been paying attention over the past couple decades.
there is good news in this though. M$ is obviously noticing that every day there are people installing linux who used to use window$. They know that linux on the desktop is closing the gap and many other companies stand to profit from it. After years of pretending OSS didn't exist, or worse yet, attacking it in underhanded ways, they don't have a piece of the action. This whole M$/oss thing, just means they are realizing there is a chance that maybe OSS really IS the next big thing.
My prediction is that a huge company with unlimited resources like google will package up a nice, distro, call it something flashy, advertise the hell out of it, and give it away for free. I am well aware of the options that already exist, but the average person is not. It takes flashy marketing to capture the market.
how can M$ possibly compete with other companies who come in at a price point nearly $0, with a better product, a good ad campaign, AND profit margins of nearly 100%? They can't. Someday the house of cards will fall. They know it, they think, they can adapt by getting involved with OSS. They will fail because we hate them.
no... sadly... no
damnit, forgot to say:
"END OF LINE"
Greetings, programs!
WAAAAHHHGHGHGH, I am soooooo excited about this. I even use extra oooooo's in sooooo to illustrate my happiness.
seriously, tron was a huge part of my childhood. I used to have a VHS taped from a TV broadcast. I had the movie, and the commercials memorized. I would plant my ass in front of the TV, watch my Tron, and make my legos. I would be sitting there building a castle or something, and muttering the dialog along with the movie, then, the commercials would come on and I would continue: "Heart disease, kidney disease, and blindness, are all signs...".
Do you think we can merge with this memory, bit?
my older brother and sister had an intellivision,so I came up playing that. (I was born in 1981) my FAVORITE game was Tron, Deadly Discs. it remained my favorite game until the NES hit a few years later.
I used to get my parents to take me to chuck-e-cheese's (a pizza video game place if you are from far off lands, I am not a totally insensitive clod), and I would take all the tokens and pump them into the tron machine. Mom would say "wouldn't you like to try some other games?"....
"BUT MOOOOOM! I WANNA PLAY MY TRON! Can I watch my tron when I get home?"
"Kelly, you have seen that program a million times, don't you think you should get outside and play?"
"MOM! WHO YOU CALLIN A PROGRAM, PROGRAM?!?
"kelly you need your exercise"
"BUT MO-OM! I am playing the game and I wanna go watch the movie and make my legos!"
and so on
Bring in the logic probe! I can't wait anymore
you are just the best first poster ever. quick, funny, and in no way relevant. Honestly sir, you are the reason why I come to /. thanks, and keep up the good work
you make an excellent point. I don't dispute it at all. I would point out though, that Cumcast is doing this to increase profits. Sort of my original point, the guys providing this service want to make lots of money, not provide you with a perfect product.
if we are lucky they take a portion of the increased profits and reinvest it in giving us better service in some way, or maybe we trade some TV picture quality for some extra speed on the data side.
again I am not arguing. I think it sucks too, but not because it isn't improving, just because it isn't "there yet". Cumcast is providing a better, faster, more feature packed service than they were 10 years ago. hopefully this trend continues, even if it is at a snail pace. With the current economic structure this is the best we can hope for.
The funny thing is that people still seem to like HDTV.... you know why? because it _IS_ better than the picture quality we had before.
I professionally install home theater systems, and most of our customers are very happy with the end result. I get what this article is going for (not that I read it, or anything), and I wish it could be better, but unfortunately the world of business never comes up with anything that is perfect... because to develop perfect tech would cost infinite money, which would significantly cut into profits.
take any technology standard and leave it to a bunch of linux geeks (myself included) to pick it apart and point out the flaws. sometimes I think our time could be better spent designing something better, rather than badmouthing that which already exists.
OTOH it is kind of fun to bitch, so I am torn...
So? What good will your un-Trusted hardware do, when all ISPs (by law) refuse to allow it to connect to the Internet?
well... before the internet we had access to many BBSs in most areas. Between phone and wireless communication we would see these systems return.
remember... humans did survive before the internet... it wasn't that long ago either. communication would not be impossible, in fact with modern communications tech we would have even more options than before. the sky isn't falling... completely... yet
if it gets too hot we can just pour some lime filled oceans on it.
hi,
you should know that I have nothing more than a high school diploma, but physics was my favorite area of geekery for many years during and after school I had an awesome physics teacher for three years in high school.. actually the best teacher I ever had, so you may be way ahead of me on this stuff, but I have a couple of tips to pass on that helped me to understand some fairly advanced physics stuff. it is very important when you are getting started in physics, that you understand the historical time line of which theories were popular at different times.
I would recommend digging through a couple of those paperback physics overview kind of books. I don't know what the latest popular ones are, but I am talking about the ones that you find at a regular book store in the science section. I have read a bunch of these, they cover nothing in detail but discuss chronologically how each important physicist built on previous works. usually they start with newtonian stuff and work forward to present day.
since you already have a math background, I would say it is more important to go over stuff conceptually in the beginning. The most important book I can recommend, if you haven't already read it, is in search of shrodinger's cat: quantum physics and reality. by John Gribbin
that book will get your mind around the important ideas in quantum physics, making it much easier to apply math to it later.
good luck, --k
both pure and non-pure desktops are already available... I suspect it will stay that way. It is wise for any open source user to develop an awareness of these issues and decide what lines to cross. besides, if the answer to the question in the title is no, then what do you propose we do? build some sort of free software enforcement team, sneak in through the duct work, and assassinate anyone sneaking a binary into a linux distro?.... on second thought, maybe that isn't such a bad idea....
nobody wins that last one...
yup thats how I got mine about 2 weeks after new years. target on sunday morning. they had 20 or 30 of them. sold out in 15 minutes.
lmao @ democraps