"The pricing seems quite steep. 800/cpu for 12 configuration, 1000+/cpu for the 96 cpu configuration. I can see why they have friends in the industry the prospect of selling 10 to 100 times the equipment per seat must have marketing departments salivating. "
How did this get marked insightful? The poster forgot there is much more to this computer then the cpus. Think of the motherboard you need in this computer to hook up all 96 CPUs together, Think of all the ram needed for the 96 CPU system. Think of the specialized case needed and the power supply. There is much more to this computer then CPUs.
"Look. I want to come over to your house. And I want to say "cock sandwich" in front of your wife and kids. Is it wrong for you to forbid me?
That's the issue here. The French people have laws, and if you want to conduct business with France, you have to obey them. Or are you seriously saying that the French government ought to be subject to American laws and values? This is France we're talking about, not some two bit country like Iraq or Bosnia that we can just invade any time we feel like."
From reading the article, it seems to me that the correct example would be someone comming into my house, looking at paintings on my walls, and suing me because they got offended by what they saw.
If the yahoo website in question is in the U.S. France shouldn't be able to enforce their laws on the website. Now if the website is physically in France that is a different story.
"The FSF argues, quite convincingly, that the ability to restrict what others can do with computer programs is a power not a freedom because "Freedom is being able to make decisions that affect mainly you. Power is being able to make decisions that affect others more than you. If we confuse power with freedom, we will fail to uphold real freedom."."
By their reasoning, isn't FSF using a power to take away my freedom to choose a different license? FSF seems a lot like the politicaly correct groups that try to control my speech and saying it is for the betterment of society. The FSF defines what freedom is and says any other viewpoint that differs from their view is wrong. They are obviously trying to exert a power without any regard to my freedom.
Oh nonsense. GPL is a socialistic license and BSD is a capitalistic license. GPL gives the community more rights then the individual, while BSD gives more rights to the individual.
There is nothing anarchist about the BSD license. The license grants specific rights to the person using it. Having no license would be anarchist. My taking FreeBSD, repackaging it, and selling it without source code doesn't harm you or violate your rights. I am not beating you up and forcing you to pay for my product. If you don't want to buy the product, you aren't beaten into submission until you change your mind. Your rights are not infringed and neither are mine. You don't have to buy the product and, if I wanted to, I could still release the source code.
On the other hand, with GPL, my rights are infringed for the supposed betterment of society. I don't have a choice. I have to release the source code.
GPL is like European Society while BSD is more like American Society (though America is moving towards socialism)
Slackware did it because RedHat and other linuxes did it. Solaris went from 2.6 to 7.
I don't see the big deal. This has been done so many times, why is Java doing this any different?
"Sure, for/.ers such as we, DRM is A Bad Thing (tm) and I for one will try not to buy anything that impedes my free (and fair) use of products that I buy."
How about saying that some/.ers think DRM is a bad thing while others of us happen not to have a problem with someone ensuring that you can't copy their music without their permission. Some of us happen to believe people should have control over what they produce and they should be able to make a profit from their works. If you don't want to buy their work, don't. that's fine. But you should not be able to get your hands on their work if you don't pay.
"However, if some joe off the street buys something and can't put it on his iPod, will he think, "I've but some copy-protected crap from a shitty corporation" or will he think "I've bought something that won't go on my iPod... perhaps I need to get Windows XP" "
Actually, I bet Joe off the street will be smart and think that if he wants to get the CD on his ipod he should just go to itunes and buy it. Simple, isn't it? After all, this album is really available on itunes and Joe really isn't as dumb as you are making him out to be.
"Now realize that none of this means you can just waltz in to a store and return anything you want on a whim, but it does mean that a store can NOT simply sell you a peice of shit and walk away."
Yes, but a copy-protected cd is not a piece of shit. If it is labeled as copy protected you can't just turn around and return it for being copy protected.
"Freedom. People like to talk about technology but forget why the whole thing started."
This isn't insightful or accurate. Linus just wanted a better free (as in beer) version of unix then Minix.
I've been using linux since 1.2.13 (back in '95) and back then I never heard of this open source movement. Linux was just a tool to learn Unix. Now Linux is a cheap way of running "Unix." Businesses couldn't care less about open source. They care about their bottom line. Linux is simply a cheap alternative to Sun, HP-UX, et al.
"I just pity people that are willing to sell so cheap their own freedom to chose."
I don't understand how you can make this statement. He freely chose to use Windows because it was easier to use then Linux (for him). Sticking to Linux would have been against his freedom of choice.
How is the parent insightful? He is saying that the reason the EU needs to have their own navigation system is because the US would have an advantage in a future conflict between the US and the EU. So when exactly are you expecting the EU to go to war against the US? What possible reason would they have?
It doesn't seem likely that the EU will get imperialistic and try to take over the world so why would they need to have their own navigation system? Or are you actually suggesting that the US will invade Europe? Sure, the US invaded Europe before (on June 6, 1944) but that was because a European nation was trying to take over the war (again). Unlike European nations, the US hasn't had imperialistic tendencies.
"If you must vote Republican, consider George H W Bush [wikipedia.org]"
I just have to ask, what am I supposed to be considering? Are you suggesting that I vote for the dad instead of the son? Am I supposed to vote for the son because of his dad's great record? I don't get it.
It isn't just his opinion. I don't know anyone who is old enough to see the original Star Wars movies in a theater who actually liked either Star Wars I and II. Of course, I will still sit through III in the hope that it is better (It can't get worse can it?)
Look at my uid. Guess my Age. I am 35. The reason my uid is high is I just decided to start posting as a user. In the past I would just read and maybe post as an AC. I don't see how the number on a uid means much.
"The author was simply engaging in simpleminded drivel that should get his journalism degree (if he has one) revoked. Such tantrums are fine for end users with no clue. For those in the press such shenanigans are inexcusable."
Actually the information week writer was informative and well written. He doesn't show bias and he gave enough information. The only simpleminded drivel I see is from you and the person who called the editorial fud.
"How very odd. If there is a God, he created you. He gave you a mind and a will. And he sustains your existence this very moment. It seems to me that this question should at least arouse your interest..."
I agree, it is really odd that you go on and on without offering proof of anything.
"What exactly do you mean by "better?" Better implies that there is some "good" that you would like to world to move closer too. And a "bad" that you would like it to move away from. A Christian would say that there is a "good" defined by God's nature from which we can say whether the world is getting "better" or "worse." Without that set point of reference, there's no way to make the kind of judgements you're attempting."
What difference does it make how a Christian defines good and bad? "Good" exists for non Christians. "Good" existed before Christianity. Yes, you need to have some point of reference when deciding "good" and "bad." However, There is no reason to use your religion as the point of reference.
I am confused by your sig. In what way did you debunk anything?
"I'd be really pissed if I spend a lot of money, time and effort getting a degree and all I could get was a low paying, zero benefits jobs where I use absolutely none of the skills are put so much into acquiring."
Funny, I spent a lot of money getting degrees in history and social science, a business minor, and becomming qualified to teach secondary education, and I am using none of it. And you know what? I am not pissed about it at all. I make good money as an admin and I really enjoy what I do.:-)
Known email addresses? That reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask. I have been trying to get to test email addresses spammed so I can test two different spam blockers but so far I haven't been successful at getting spammed. Any suggestions?
Btw, the email addresses are steve@steve.mysticjj.com and scohen@scohen.mysticjj.com if anyone wants to spam them (maybe a bot will pick up the emails).
" I think it is fair to say that Amazon and eBay would have been roaring successes if we were still using the text-based Lynx browser."
No way. Yes, you are correct if you mean that it would be possible to make a text only website. But, you are missing the key ingrediant in any business. Customers! I remember the internet before Mosaic. It was university students and the science community. Joe and Jane consumer were no where in sight. Try to make money with a text only site. It isn't possible. Sure, it would attract a few geeks but it wouldn't come close to earning a profit.
Andreesen made the internet popular (along with the others who created mosaic). Mosaic might be the single most important application ever as far as dollars are concerned.
Without the graphical web browser would we have ebusiness? Would Ebay or Amazon exist? Would we be able to buy anything online? Heck, most computer manufacturers wouldn't be in business if it wasn't for that browser. Neither would ISPs, DSL, and cable modem providers. Heck, slashdot probably wouldn't exist if wasn't for mosaic!
I wonder how it signals that they are done for the night? If it always signals for a refil when it is empty doesn't that mean you have to leave some beer in the pitcher on the last round?
Slashdot Mirror
Gates is married.
"The pricing seems quite steep. 800/cpu for 12 configuration, 1000+/cpu for the 96 cpu configuration. I can see why they have friends in the industry the prospect of selling 10 to 100 times the equipment per seat must have marketing departments salivating. "
How did this get marked insightful? The poster forgot there is much more to this computer then the cpus. Think of the motherboard you need in this computer to hook up all 96 CPUs together, Think of all the ram needed for the 96 CPU system. Think of the specialized case needed and the power supply. There is much more to this computer then CPUs.
"Look. I want to come over to your house. And I want to say "cock sandwich" in front of your wife and kids. Is it wrong for you to forbid me?
That's the issue here. The French people have laws, and if you want to conduct business with France, you have to obey them. Or are you seriously saying that the French government ought to be subject to American laws and values? This is France we're talking about, not some two bit country like Iraq or Bosnia that we can just invade any time we feel like."
From reading the article, it seems to me that the correct example would be someone comming into my house, looking at paintings on my walls, and suing me because they got offended by what they saw.
If the yahoo website in question is in the U.S. France shouldn't be able to enforce their laws on the website. Now if the website is physically in France that is a different story.
"The FSF argues, quite convincingly, that the ability to restrict what others can do with computer programs is a power not a freedom because "Freedom is being able to make decisions that affect mainly you. Power is being able to make decisions that affect others more than you. If we confuse power with freedom, we will fail to uphold real freedom."." By their reasoning, isn't FSF using a power to take away my freedom to choose a different license? FSF seems a lot like the politicaly correct groups that try to control my speech and saying it is for the betterment of society. The FSF defines what freedom is and says any other viewpoint that differs from their view is wrong. They are obviously trying to exert a power without any regard to my freedom.
Oh nonsense. GPL is a socialistic license and BSD is a capitalistic license. GPL gives the community more rights then the individual, while BSD gives more rights to the individual.
There is nothing anarchist about the BSD license. The license grants specific rights to the person using it. Having no license would be anarchist. My taking FreeBSD, repackaging it, and selling it without source code doesn't harm you or violate your rights. I am not beating you up and forcing you to pay for my product. If you don't want to buy the product, you aren't beaten into submission until you change your mind. Your rights are not infringed and neither are mine. You don't have to buy the product and, if I wanted to, I could still release the source code.
On the other hand, with GPL, my rights are infringed for the supposed betterment of society. I don't have a choice. I have to release the source code.
GPL is like European Society while BSD is more like American Society (though America is moving towards socialism)
Slackware did it because RedHat and other linuxes did it. Solaris went from 2.6 to 7. I don't see the big deal. This has been done so many times, why is Java doing this any different?
"Sure, for /.ers such as we, DRM is A Bad Thing (tm) and I for one will try not to buy anything that impedes my free (and fair) use of products that I buy."
/.ers think DRM is a bad thing while others of us happen not to have a problem with someone ensuring that you can't copy their music without their permission. Some of us happen to believe people should have control over what they produce and they should be able to make a profit from their works. If you don't want to buy their work, don't. that's fine. But you should not be able to get your hands on their work if you don't pay.
How about saying that some
"However, if some joe off the street buys something and can't put it on his iPod, will he think, "I've but some copy-protected crap from a shitty corporation" or will he think "I've bought something that won't go on my iPod... perhaps I need to get Windows XP" "
Actually, I bet Joe off the street will be smart and think that if he wants to get the CD on his ipod he should just go to itunes and buy it. Simple, isn't it? After all, this album is really available on itunes and Joe really isn't as dumb as you are making him out to be.
"Now realize that none of this means you can just waltz in to a store and return anything you want on a whim, but it does mean that a store can NOT simply sell you a peice of shit and walk away."
Yes, but a copy-protected cd is not a piece of shit. If it is labeled as copy protected you can't just turn around and return it for being copy protected.
"Freedom. People like to talk about technology but forget why the whole thing started." This isn't insightful or accurate. Linus just wanted a better free (as in beer) version of unix then Minix. I've been using linux since 1.2.13 (back in '95) and back then I never heard of this open source movement. Linux was just a tool to learn Unix. Now Linux is a cheap way of running "Unix." Businesses couldn't care less about open source. They care about their bottom line. Linux is simply a cheap alternative to Sun, HP-UX, et al.
"I just pity people that are willing to sell so cheap their own freedom to chose."
I don't understand how you can make this statement. He freely chose to use Windows because it was easier to use then Linux (for him). Sticking to Linux would have been against his freedom of choice.
How is the parent insightful? He is saying that the reason the EU needs to have their own navigation system is because the US would have an advantage in a future conflict between the US and the EU. So when exactly are you expecting the EU to go to war against the US? What possible reason would they have?
It doesn't seem likely that the EU will get imperialistic and try to take over the world so why would they need to have their own navigation system? Or are you actually suggesting that the US will invade Europe? Sure, the US invaded Europe before (on June 6, 1944) but that was because a European nation was trying to take over the war (again). Unlike European nations, the US hasn't had imperialistic tendencies.
"If you must vote Republican, consider George H W Bush [wikipedia.org]"
I just have to ask, what am I supposed to be considering? Are you suggesting that I vote for the dad instead of the son? Am I supposed to vote for the son because of his dad's great record? I don't get it.
It isn't just his opinion. I don't know anyone who is old enough to see the original Star Wars movies in a theater who actually liked either Star Wars I and II. Of course, I will still sit through III in the hope that it is better (It can't get worse can it?)
Look at my uid. Guess my Age. I am 35. The reason my uid is high is I just decided to start posting as a user. In the past I would just read and maybe post as an AC. I don't see how the number on a uid means much.
"The author was simply engaging in simpleminded drivel that should get his journalism degree (if he has one) revoked. Such tantrums are fine for end users with no clue. For those in the press such shenanigans are inexcusable."
Actually the information week writer was informative and well written. He doesn't show bias and he gave enough information. The only simpleminded drivel I see is from you and the person who called the editorial fud.
"How very odd. If there is a God, he created you. He gave you a mind and a will. And he sustains your existence this very moment. It seems to me that this question should at least arouse your interest..."
I agree, it is really odd that you go on and on without offering proof of anything.
"What exactly do you mean by "better?" Better implies that there is some "good" that you would like to world to move closer too. And a "bad" that you would like it to move away from. A Christian would say that there is a "good" defined by God's nature from which we can say whether the world is getting "better" or "worse." Without that set point of reference, there's no way to make the kind of judgements you're attempting."
What difference does it make how a Christian defines good and bad? "Good" exists for non Christians. "Good" existed before Christianity. Yes, you need to have some point of reference when deciding "good" and "bad." However, There is no reason to use your religion as the point of reference.
I am confused by your sig. In what way did you debunk anything?
"I'd be really pissed if I spend a lot of money, time and effort getting a degree and all I could get was a low paying, zero benefits jobs where I use absolutely none of the skills are put so much into acquiring." Funny, I spent a lot of money getting degrees in history and social science, a business minor, and becomming qualified to teach secondary education, and I am using none of it. And you know what? I am not pissed about it at all. I make good money as an admin and I really enjoy what I do. :-)
It isn't that hard. We make more on average then most union positions without having to pay dues or being told how to vote.
Known email addresses? That reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask. I have been trying to get to test email addresses spammed so I can test two different spam blockers but so far I haven't been successful at getting spammed. Any suggestions?
Btw, the email addresses are steve@steve.mysticjj.com and scohen@scohen.mysticjj.com if anyone wants to spam them (maybe a bot will pick up the emails).
-"I'm one of those Mac people that will break a bottle on the bar and hold it to your throat for bad-mouthing my system"
Somehow, I doubt you are one of those type of people and I doubt those type of people actually exist.
You do realize that cisco bought linksys and that linksys products are not designed by the same people that make cisco's routers?
I looked through keytronics website and I didn't see a single split keyboard. I think I will stick with my microsoft one.
" I think it is fair to say that Amazon and eBay would have been roaring successes if we were still using the text-based Lynx browser."
No way. Yes, you are correct if you mean that it would be possible to make a text only website. But, you are missing the key ingrediant in any business. Customers! I remember the internet before Mosaic. It was university students and the science community. Joe and Jane consumer were no where in sight. Try to make money with a text only site. It isn't possible. Sure, it would attract a few geeks but it wouldn't come close to earning a profit.
Andreesen made the internet popular (along with the others who created mosaic). Mosaic might be the single most important application ever as far as dollars are concerned.
Without the graphical web browser would we have ebusiness? Would Ebay or Amazon exist? Would we be able to buy anything online? Heck, most computer manufacturers wouldn't be in business if it wasn't for that browser. Neither would ISPs, DSL, and cable modem providers. Heck, slashdot probably wouldn't exist if wasn't for mosaic!
I wonder how it signals that they are done for the night? If it always signals for a refil when it is empty doesn't that mean you have to leave some beer in the pitcher on the last round?