Thats why I always aim for a decent base package before I sign up. I take the approach that I will only work for an amount I am happy with for that position, any raises, bonuses etc are then just icing on the cake as I dont really need them and dont really care. Also stops me from overworking and chasing the pay rise / promotion that never comes (hint: if you want career progression and better pay you have a far greater chance getting it faster by changing jobs than just sitting back and waiting your turn)
Not so simple - a place I worked for (a large telco) tried shutting down all non-approved systems. You know what happened? A large number of departments came to a screeching halt as so many depended on non-approved in-house servers etc and everything was quickly re-activated. Security doesnt come at the expense of line of business activities - its the LOB that produces the income. Any IT manager that decided that the company could lose millions upon millions in revenue because he wanted to secure the network would have his head kicked in. Having draconian approval processes for custom in-house systems didnt exactly move managers to try to get their systems approved either. Generally there is an ideal scenario, and the practical one, and the two are not the same.
The Gondor currency has collapsed under the prospect of a war reparations claim by Mordor. To stop the mass withdrawals of money from banks Aragorn has declared all banks closed pending further notice and a state of martial law. There are rumours the country is being renamed to the Democratic Republic of Gondor though any form of election to the parliament has been suspended indefinitely due to 'civil unrest'.
Frodo has appealed extradition proceedings filed by Mordor for break and enter and several counts of murder.
Gollum has pressed charges of theft, conspiracy, torture and a host of lesser charges against most of the prominent Western leaders. If successful this could lead to worldwide political turmoil, though the Western leaders are pushing to have the hearing in Gondor where it is believed Aragorn has control of all top judges.
Tom Bombadil has been committed to an insane asylum, many observers believing this was only a matter of time.
Saruman has filed a civil suite against Gandalf, claiming that copyright ownership to the title "White Wizard" does in fact belong to him. Legal experts believe that he does have a very strong case as there are numerous recorded instances of Saruman using that title. Gandalf is already preparing a legal defence against possible charges of fraud if unsuccessful in his defence as several nations have already flagged they may launch legal proceedings against him for deliberately misleading them in regards to who he was. Defence departments are reviewing procedures as an obvious loophole has been found where an impersonator could take them to war.
Several Rangers have filed suit against Aragorn for failure to pay them for several years of work tendered. As with all cases tried under Gondor's dubious legal system these are expected to fail with possibility of a counter suit.
My music tastes are far from mainstream but I am still yet to come across a single CD where I have liked every single track (the only exceptions would be my classical CDs). Just because a CD is not mainstream does not mean that it will contain no rubbish (which in regards to music is a very subjective term - one mans rubbish is another mans masterpiece).
Agree with everything you said 100%. I would add another two as well though - planning and ambition.
You put it very well that many use a degree as a crutch - they lack hard work, planning and ambition, but have heard that this degree thing will get them a good job. Theyll get their above average income but will never become rich. Out of the people I know there is not much difference between degreed and non-degreed people - there are some filthy rich graduates and some filthy rich non-graduates (the non-graduates usually started with nothing, sometimes not even speaking English when they arrived from overseas, before someone starts blabbering that you need rich parents to succeed). Also know degreed and non-degreed people making very little. Interestingly their work ethic and motivation seems to be far more proportional to their income than anything else (including family wealth).
My 1.5GHz G4 PowerBook takes 10 seconds to load Word the first time, 3 seconds if shut and re-opened thereafter. Office has been on here for about a year. I had Office loading in about 10-15 seconds on my old Duron 650 with 128 RAM, OOo took about double the time. No idea where the reviewer pulled his figured from.
"Are Mac owners in general thought to be so technically savvy that they would even want to do so?"
Dont confuse not technically savvy with wanting things as easy as possible. Many new Mac owners are very technically savvy. These same technically savvy users also want things as easy as possible - the two are not mutually exclusive. They will likely not want to dual boot - but this would be because everything is working quite fine for them the way it is, not because they dont know how to.
"...though my parents love osx (as they arent power users)"
Many power users also love os x for the same reason as your parents - it is just so clean and easy to work with. I know many sysadmins, developers etc who use os x because they want the OS to keep out of the way, not have to play around in the CLI half the time - theyre paid to get a job done, not tinker. I know when I'm coding I just want to click something to do any non-coding related tasks, not have to type things in. And if youre getting CLI withdrawals all you have to do is open up a terminal and there it is.
"If 9/11 was not about flying airplanes into buildings, but shutting down all electricity in the USA, maybe we would not be in Iraq or in the middle of a war."
Maybe if the USA went after the culprits of 9/11 you would not be in Iraq either. Otherwise I agree with your point.
I would have thought that talking about a 4-way PDA and PDAs running web servers on WinCE would have more or less given it away as a fictional post but that appears to have eluded yourself. (it was an OBVIOUS modification to an old troll regarding Win v Linux)
Make haste - there are many more highly subtle and devious astroturfing posts requiring your keen intellect and observation skills that must be found out before some poor unsuspecting sysadmin attempts to set up a web server using WinCE on a 4-way PDA. You are needed! Up, up and away!!!
I used to work as a consultant for a Fortune 500 company (more than 10,000 employees). As an expert in the field of IT consulting, I think I can shed a little light on the current climate of the open source community, and PalmOne in particular. The main reason that open source software, and PalmOne in particular, is failing is due to the underlying immaturity of the technology and the perception of the viral GNU license.
I know that the above statements are strong, but I have hard facts to back it up with. At the Fortune 500 company that I worked for, we wanted to leverage the power of PalmOS and associated open source technologies to benefit our server pool. The perception that PalmOS is "free" was too much to ignore. I recommended to the company that we use the newest version of PalmOS, version 5.2. My expectations were high that it would outperform our current solution at the time, WindowsCE, which was doing an absolutely superb job (and still is!) serving as web, DNS, and FTP PDAs.
I felt that I was up to the job to convert the entire PDA pool to the PalmOS technology. I had several years experience programming VB, C#, ASP, and.NET Framework at the kernel level. I didn't use C, because contrary to popular belief, ASP and VB can go just as low level as C can, and the latest.NET VB compiler produces code that is more portable and faster than C. I took it upon myself to configure and compile all of the necessary shareware versions of software that we needed, including sendmail, apache, and BIND. I even used the latest version of gcc (3.1) to increase the execution time of the binaries. After a long chain of events, the results of the system were less than impressive..
The first bombshell to hit my project was that my client found out from another consultant that the GNU community has close ties to former communist leaders. Furthermore, he found out that the 'S' in PalmOS was a tribute to the former Communist leader, Joseph Stalin, whose last name also begins with 'S'. The next bombshell to hit my project was the absolutely horrible performance. I knew from the beginning that PalmOS wasn't ready for the desktop, but I had always been told by my colleagues that it was better suited for a "PDA". As soon as I replaced all of the WindowsCE PDAs with PalmOS PDAs, the PalmOS PDAs immediately went into swap. Furthermore, almost all of the machines were quad-processor x86 PDAs. We had no idea that PalmOS had such awful SMP support. After less than 1 day in service, I was constantly having to restart PDAs, because for some reason, many of the PDAs were experiencing kernel panics caused by mod_perl crashing apache! The hardship did not end there! Apparently, the version of BIND installed on the PDA pool was remotely exploitable. Soon after we found that out, a new worm was remotely infecting all of our PDAs! We were not expecting this, because our IIS servers running on WindowsCE had never experienced a worm attack. Microsoft has always provided us with patches in the unlikely event that an exploit was found. It took us hundreds of man-hours just to disinfect our PalmOne PDAs! After just 48 hours of operating PalmOne PDAs in our PDA pool, we had exhausted our budget for the entire year! It was costing us approximately 75% more to run PalmOS than WindowsCE.
Needless to say, I will not be recommending PalmOS to any of my Fortune 500 clients. In the beginning, we thought that since PalmOS was such "old" technology, it would be more mature than anything on the market. We also found out the hard way that rag-tag volunteer efforts responsible for Apache and BIND simply are not able to compete with the professional operations of Microsoft. I guess the old saying is true; "You get what you pay for!" Needless to say, I will be using Microsoft's "shared license" solution for my enterprise clients, rather than the communist GNU license.
As it stands now, I do believe PalmOS has some practical uses. I think it will be useful in a University setting for first year computer science students to compile their "Hello World!" programs on (provided that gcc won't kernel panic the machine). Simply put, PalmOS just doesn't handle the rigors of a real-world work environment
Imagine all the malicious code the headquarters have hidden in their web app so they can steal your information from the web page the agent accesses, hosted on their servers.
Even scarier if the agent is using an intranet application and has no web access through the firewall! Just imagine all the sneaky things that could have installed themselves on his browser.
You dont understand. If IBM share their technology its the best thing since sliced bread and we get hundreds of comments singing their praises. If M$ (remeber to use that '$' sign) share their technology, well, it's evil. Why? Because it's M$!!!
Yes, the marginal cost of distrubuting software is approaching zero, mind you that conveniently leaves out all the other aspects. Employees dont work for free. Business premises cost money. Advertising / marketing / legal cost money. Suppliers certainly dont come free. Along with IT infrastructure, any purchsed software, customer support channels, telephony infrastructure, miscellaneous expenses etc and you definitely have non zero costs to recover plus profit still to make. It is very interesting that you ignore these costs and only discuss the distribution. I suppose a doctor / lawyer / accountant / tradesman should work for free as well as it does not cost them any money to distribute their service?
The point of Newstart etc is to provide you with an income until you can find work. Not until you find your dream job. If you want to code OSS go for it - all power to you. However it's not up to the taxpayer to fund your unemployment benifits while you do it.
Oh I see - so if a commercial software vendor receives no income from sales they are still in a perfectly good financial position as they still have their information. I get it now!
Slightly OT - but how was the parent a "Troll"? Do you know what Troll means?
Someone expressing an opinion is not a Troll, even if it differs from yours.
And some advice for yourself - get an IT job well before you finish uni. Even if its something like ISP helpdesk or even just helping your uni IT depts fix / install computers or something similar. Dont expect to finish uni and magically get hired just because you have a degree. If you are already thinking about Centrelink for after you finish uni you really need to sit down and start doing some long term planning.
I think it's worth considering that for any company that produces and charges for motor vehicles, there will probably be many others that could benefit from and improve their productivity with free motor vehicles, but can't necessarily afford to pay for the motor vehicles themselves.
And for every farmer that charges for produce, there will be thousands who would be better off if they got the produce for free.
There appears to be a tiny flaw in this point somewhere, just cant put my finger on it.
Whoever modded this as flamebait has no clue what working with the Australian gov is like. Unfortunately it is actually far closer to reality than you might think.
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Thats why I always aim for a decent base package before I sign up. I take the approach that I will only work for an amount I am happy with for that position, any raises, bonuses etc are then just icing on the cake as I dont really need them and dont really care. Also stops me from overworking and chasing the pay rise / promotion that never comes (hint: if you want career progression and better pay you have a far greater chance getting it faster by changing jobs than just sitting back and waiting your turn)
Not so simple - a place I worked for (a large telco) tried shutting down all non-approved systems. You know what happened? A large number of departments came to a screeching halt as so many depended on non-approved in-house servers etc and everything was quickly re-activated. Security doesnt come at the expense of line of business activities - its the LOB that produces the income. Any IT manager that decided that the company could lose millions upon millions in revenue because he wanted to secure the network would have his head kicked in. Having draconian approval processes for custom in-house systems didnt exactly move managers to try to get their systems approved either. Generally there is an ideal scenario, and the practical one, and the two are not the same.
In a word, no
The Gondor currency has collapsed under the prospect of a war reparations claim by Mordor. To stop the mass withdrawals of money from banks Aragorn has declared all banks closed pending further notice and a state of martial law. There are rumours the country is being renamed to the Democratic Republic of Gondor though any form of election to the parliament has been suspended indefinitely due to 'civil unrest'.
Frodo has appealed extradition proceedings filed by Mordor for break and enter and several counts of murder.
Gollum has pressed charges of theft, conspiracy, torture and a host of lesser charges against most of the prominent Western leaders. If successful this could lead to worldwide political turmoil, though the Western leaders are pushing to have the hearing in Gondor where it is believed Aragorn has control of all top judges.
Tom Bombadil has been committed to an insane asylum, many observers believing this was only a matter of time.
Saruman has filed a civil suite against Gandalf, claiming that copyright ownership to the title "White Wizard" does in fact belong to him. Legal experts believe that he does have a very strong case as there are numerous recorded instances of Saruman using that title. Gandalf is already preparing a legal defence against possible charges of fraud if unsuccessful in his defence as several nations have already flagged they may launch legal proceedings against him for deliberately misleading them in regards to who he was. Defence departments are reviewing procedures as an obvious loophole has been found where an impersonator could take them to war.
Several Rangers have filed suit against Aragorn for failure to pay them for several years of work tendered. As with all cases tried under Gondor's dubious legal system these are expected to fail with possibility of a counter suit.
My music tastes are far from mainstream but I am still yet to come across a single CD where I have liked every single track (the only exceptions would be my classical CDs). Just because a CD is not mainstream does not mean that it will contain no rubbish (which in regards to music is a very subjective term - one mans rubbish is another mans masterpiece).
Agree with everything you said 100%. I would add another two as well though - planning and ambition.
You put it very well that many use a degree as a crutch - they lack hard work, planning and ambition, but have heard that this degree thing will get them a good job. Theyll get their above average income but will never become rich. Out of the people I know there is not much difference between degreed and non-degreed people - there are some filthy rich graduates and some filthy rich non-graduates (the non-graduates usually started with nothing, sometimes not even speaking English when they arrived from overseas, before someone starts blabbering that you need rich parents to succeed). Also know degreed and non-degreed people making very little. Interestingly their work ethic and motivation seems to be far more proportional to their income than anything else (including family wealth).
My 1.5GHz G4 PowerBook takes 10 seconds to load Word the first time, 3 seconds if shut and re-opened thereafter. Office has been on here for about a year. I had Office loading in about 10-15 seconds on my old Duron 650 with 128 RAM, OOo took about double the time. No idea where the reviewer pulled his figured from.
"Non-idiot moderators: where were you last time I said this?"
Non-idiot moderators? Likely having lunch with the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny
"Are Mac owners in general thought to be so technically savvy that they would even want to do so?"
Dont confuse not technically savvy with wanting things as easy as possible. Many new Mac owners are very technically savvy. These same technically savvy users also want things as easy as possible - the two are not mutually exclusive. They will likely not want to dual boot - but this would be because everything is working quite fine for them the way it is, not because they dont know how to.
"...though my parents love osx (as they arent power users)"
Many power users also love os x for the same reason as your parents - it is just so clean and easy to work with. I know many sysadmins, developers etc who use os x because they want the OS to keep out of the way, not have to play around in the CLI half the time - theyre paid to get a job done, not tinker. I know when I'm coding I just want to click something to do any non-coding related tasks, not have to type things in. And if youre getting CLI withdrawals all you have to do is open up a terminal and there it is.
"If 9/11 was not about flying airplanes into buildings, but shutting down all electricity in the USA, maybe we would not be in Iraq or in the middle of a war."
Maybe if the USA went after the culprits of 9/11 you would not be in Iraq either. Otherwise I agree with your point.
An even smarter person runs a BSD server
*ducks*
I would have thought that talking about a 4-way PDA and PDAs running web servers on WinCE would have more or less given it away as a fictional post but that appears to have eluded yourself. (it was an OBVIOUS modification to an old troll regarding Win v Linux)
Make haste - there are many more highly subtle and devious astroturfing posts requiring your keen intellect and observation skills that must be found out before some poor unsuspecting sysadmin attempts to set up a web server using WinCE on a 4-way PDA. You are needed! Up, up and away!!!
I used to work as a consultant for a Fortune 500 company (more than 10,000 employees). As an expert in the field of IT consulting, I think I can shed a little light on the current climate of the open source community, and PalmOne in particular. The main reason that open source software, and PalmOne in particular, is failing is due to the underlying immaturity of the technology and the perception of the viral GNU license.
.NET Framework at the kernel level. I didn't use C, because contrary to popular belief, ASP and VB can go just as low level as C can, and the latest .NET VB compiler produces code that is more portable and faster than C. I took it upon myself to configure and compile all of the necessary shareware versions of software that we needed, including sendmail, apache, and BIND. I even used the latest version of gcc (3.1) to increase the execution time of the binaries. After a long chain of events, the results of the system were less than impressive..
I know that the above statements are strong, but I have hard facts to back it up with. At the Fortune 500 company that I worked for, we wanted to leverage the power of PalmOS and associated open source technologies to benefit our server pool. The perception that PalmOS is "free" was too much to ignore. I recommended to the company that we use the newest version of PalmOS, version 5.2. My expectations were high that it would outperform our current solution at the time, WindowsCE, which was doing an absolutely superb job (and still is!) serving as web, DNS, and FTP PDAs.
I felt that I was up to the job to convert the entire PDA pool to the PalmOS technology. I had several years experience programming VB, C#, ASP, and
The first bombshell to hit my project was that my client found out from another consultant that the GNU community has close ties to former communist leaders. Furthermore, he found out that the 'S' in PalmOS was a tribute to the former Communist leader, Joseph Stalin, whose last name also begins with 'S'. The next bombshell to hit my project was the absolutely horrible performance. I knew from the beginning that PalmOS wasn't ready for the desktop, but I had always been told by my colleagues that it was better suited for a "PDA". As soon as I replaced all of the WindowsCE PDAs with PalmOS PDAs, the PalmOS PDAs immediately went into swap. Furthermore, almost all of the machines were quad-processor x86 PDAs. We had no idea that PalmOS had such awful SMP support. After less than 1 day in service, I was constantly having to restart PDAs, because for some reason, many of the PDAs were experiencing kernel panics caused by mod_perl crashing apache! The hardship did not end there! Apparently, the version of BIND installed on the PDA pool was remotely exploitable. Soon after we found that out, a new worm was remotely infecting all of our PDAs! We were not expecting this, because our IIS servers running on WindowsCE had never experienced a worm attack. Microsoft has always provided us with patches in the unlikely event that an exploit was found. It took us hundreds of man-hours just to disinfect our PalmOne PDAs! After just 48 hours of operating PalmOne PDAs in our PDA pool, we had exhausted our budget for the entire year! It was costing us approximately 75% more to run PalmOS than WindowsCE.
Needless to say, I will not be recommending PalmOS to any of my Fortune 500 clients. In the beginning, we thought that since PalmOS was such "old" technology, it would be more mature than anything on the market. We also found out the hard way that rag-tag volunteer efforts responsible for Apache and BIND simply are not able to compete with the professional operations of Microsoft. I guess the old saying is true; "You get what you pay for!" Needless to say, I will be using Microsoft's "shared license" solution for my enterprise clients, rather than the communist GNU license.
As it stands now, I do believe PalmOS has some practical uses. I think it will be useful in a University setting for first year computer science students to compile their "Hello World!" programs on (provided that gcc won't kernel panic the machine). Simply put, PalmOS just doesn't handle the rigors of a real-world work environment
"except I would make the small corrections that there is an automatic update mechanism"
Yes, a brilliantly designed update mechanism that downloads the entire updated browser.
Very scary!
Imagine all the malicious code the headquarters have hidden in their web app so they can steal your information from the web page the agent accesses, hosted on their servers.
Even scarier if the agent is using an intranet application and has no web access through the firewall! Just imagine all the sneaky things that could have installed themselves on his browser.
No way!! I am seriously hanging out for the 10,001st GNU/K-CMS written in PHP!!! It will be so different and superior to the previous 10,000!
You dont understand. If IBM share their technology its the best thing since sliced bread and we get hundreds of comments singing their praises. If M$ (remeber to use that '$' sign) share their technology, well, it's evil. Why? Because it's M$!!!
Yes, the marginal cost of distrubuting software is approaching zero, mind you that conveniently leaves out all the other aspects. Employees dont work for free. Business premises cost money. Advertising / marketing / legal cost money. Suppliers certainly dont come free. Along with IT infrastructure, any purchsed software, customer support channels, telephony infrastructure, miscellaneous expenses etc and you definitely have non zero costs to recover plus profit still to make. It is very interesting that you ignore these costs and only discuss the distribution. I suppose a doctor / lawyer / accountant / tradesman should work for free as well as it does not cost them any money to distribute their service?
The point of Newstart etc is to provide you with an income until you can find work. Not until you find your dream job. If you want to code OSS go for it - all power to you. However it's not up to the taxpayer to fund your unemployment benifits while you do it.
Oh I see - so if a commercial software vendor receives no income from sales they are still in a perfectly good financial position as they still have their information. I get it now!
Slightly OT - but how was the parent a "Troll"? Do you know what Troll means?
Someone expressing an opinion is not a Troll, even if it differs from yours.
And some advice for yourself - get an IT job well before you finish uni. Even if its something like ISP helpdesk or even just helping your uni IT depts fix / install computers or something similar. Dont expect to finish uni and magically get hired just because you have a degree. If you are already thinking about Centrelink for after you finish uni you really need to sit down and start doing some long term planning.
I think it's worth considering that for any company that produces and charges for motor vehicles, there will probably be many others that could benefit from and improve their productivity with free motor vehicles, but can't necessarily afford to pay for the motor vehicles themselves.
And for every farmer that charges for produce, there will be thousands who would be better off if they got the produce for free.
There appears to be a tiny flaw in this point somewhere, just cant put my finger on it.
I was hoping for Jar Jar to get zapped by the emperor similar to Luke at the end of ROTJ. I cant think of a more fitting end.
Whoever modded this as flamebait has no clue what working with the Australian gov is like. Unfortunately it is actually far closer to reality than you might think.