"but nothing stops the other players from typing nasty words."
Actually that's not true, the multiplayer chat in C&C generals and LOTR BFME both have language filters, if you try and type a dirty word it just shows as **** (I think this is true for EA PC games in general.
As for spelling out dirty words with tiles or buildings in mutiplayer maps or user generated content (like WC3 custom maps) there is nothing preventing it, although they could just not allow user created content, or make building placement static (like, once again, Lord of the rings, battle for middle earth).
"and yet both next door neighbors have it, as well as most of the surrounding houses. One next-door house is even further away from the CO than I am."
If you can manage them to do it, try to have them check the end to end cable, from your house to the CO, when i first tried to get DSL they told me the same thing, but when they checked end to end they noticed that a loop of wire was connected somewhere along the way increasing my distance by about 1000', once they re-routed my connection i was then (amazingly) within the limit for DSL.. i have had their "premium" service ever since...
"This is costing Nintendo possibly millions of dollars."
I think the main problem is that Nintendo is having a hard time getting to their production facilities to find out what the problem is, you see they already have millions of dollars in profits that they are wading through.
Surprisingly enough whenever a Wii is found on sale people immediately buy them.
Manufacturers want their products to fly off the shelves, products on shelves mean depreciation of inventory at their manufacturing plants, this costs them money.
Nobody at Sony is going "oh good, the stock we shipped to retailers is sitting idle, we are in a much better position than Nintendo who can't make their product fast enough".
At least internally anyway, publicly i'm sure its a different story.
no I was saying they were helped to embargo any oil imports to Japan, your argument is interesting but unfortunately wrong..
"In July 1939, the U.S. terminated the 1911 U.S.-Japan commerce treaty, an action which showed official disapproval and, more concretely, allowed the U.S. to impose trade embargoes. Nevertheless, Japan continued its military campaign in China and later signed with Nazi Germany the Anti-Comintern Pact, which formally ended World War I hostilities and declared common interests. In 1940, Japan signed the Tripartite Pact with Germany and Fascist Italy to form the Axis Powers."
You can see that America ended trade with Japan, japan THEN joined the germans as allies.. Japan tried to get oil from other interests but avoided those which would have drawn america into war with them, eventually they decided to act proactively and attacked the US.
I am saying we provoked them into fighting to get us into a war that would bring us out of a depression.
Because of American blockades, they felt they had no other choice but to ally with a nation that could help them obtain resources. America basically forced them into war with us, this isn't about trading with them directly, it was about not letting any other country trade with them as well.
"discouraged for rampaging across other soveriegn nations, enslaving their population, yeah. "
Yes, "discouraged" by harming their populace and cutting off their only supply of resources (Japan has to import pretty much all resources since they have very limited of their own), maybe if Amercia could learn to butt out of other nation's problems we wouldn't become embroiled in wars on foreign lands.
"so it's ok to force yourself into someone else's property as long as you aren't a threat to them?"
You're right, i wish they had places so designated to let us know where it is safe to protest so problems like these could be avoided, we could even call them "safe-zones" and put up signs or something...
"all you had to do was click on a small icon next to someones name in the scoreboard and it would mute/unmute their voice comms."
Which is exactly how it should work, you could even do this while running towards an objective or doing some other action, and when the person talked you could also see who it was in the scoreboard as you were about to mute them.
HL2's method requires you to stop whatever you are doing, hit esc, click a link to bring up the player menu, click the players name (if you have remembered it this far since you can't see the normal screen with the voice icon any longer) and then click a button that says "mute".
ARGGGHGHGHG!!!!!
Before with HL1 i muting some jerk was easy and painless, now i either mute EVERYONE as soon as a join a game, or get distracted between playing and trying to figure out what jerkwad is randomly yelling faggot every so often (or even more annoying, playing some stupid song).
Like much of Source, valve took something that was working just fine and f'ed it up.
"The maximum clockspeed the processor can manage with some stability is dictated by it's temperature."
Yes but they are saying at 110C (note celcius) it runs at 3.13 GHZ, so in order to run at that speed you would need liquid cooling or such, same for 5GHZ. I mean it's great the power consumption is relatively low, but that is still a scorcher.
I mean I can run my opteron 1.8 GHZ at 3 GHZ too if my thermal limit is 110c, but would I want to or is it going to be stable without a shit load of colling? probably not.
"Sure, I wouldn't recognize the characters of Aqua Teen, but I would have been nervous even if it was Bart Simpson flipping a bird. You don't have to be very smart to make a bomb that looks like some kind of toy. And you would be very naive to ignore a bomb or a gun that looks like a toy."
This is exactly the paranoid reaction that plagued the Boston police, If you are already so scared witless that you assume every toy lying on the street is a bomb, we have bigger problems than guerrilla marketing.
OF course i agree that there should have been some type of identifying info on the marketing devices.
"That's why science depends so much on peer review. For an experimental result to be accepted, it must be repeated by other researchers who read the original paper and tried to replicate the experiment using the description in the paper."
Which makes it all the more sad that no other scientists tried to peer review it.. but i guess they would have been met with the same ridicule that PEAR did.
This seems the be one of the weaknesses of peer review, as has happened before, theories which might be actually correct, have stagnated due to not wanting to stray from what is already established "Science", which seems counter-intuitive as Science has always tried to push the boundaries of what is "known".
"I suspect the mods were, in fact, simply ignorant. If it had been set at 4 or 5, insightful, and the mods thought this a tad high, I'd agree with the rest of your sentiment."
I think it is more likely that this is because the scientific method (and "science" in general) is "like" a religion to some people, thusly you see the same rabid fanaticism against anything that might prove critical of the Scientific Method or anything that is being tested by the SM but is not regarded as Science... like the PEAR studies...
As if by just being associated with Science or possibly pointing out weaknesses of the SM when dealing with some theories, it would somehow lesson the power that the SM has to help find the truth. I find it equally as silly as people blowing themselves up to prove they are righteous.
"Even more impressive, this chip is able to achieve incredibly high clock speeds on modest power usage. Running on a 1.0v current at 110 degrees C the tile maximum frequency is 3.13 GHz while at 1.2v the tiles can run at 4.0 GHz."
That would be about 250f, would peltier coolers be mandatory?
"Actually, a couple. First, Minority Report was only about preventing murder and rape. All other crime was untouched (and even rising)."
That was because (according to the story line) precogs could only predict murders due to how they upset the balance of the universe, or something along those lines, because it made such an effect that the precogs could sense it... but i believe there was a commercial later in the movie saying how eventually they would be able to stop "rape, theft and so on".
"If someone compels you against your will, e.g., by forcibly reading your mind, then you're hardly at fault."
Yet.
If we are at the point where people are being forced to have brain scans to judge their intent, I doubt the current laws would exist as they currently do, actually i am positive they would be expanded to include intentions.
All it will take is for someone to do something horrific that could have been prevented because "we knew what he intended to do and did nothing".
When they arrived to the chosen land, after wandering the desert, God commanded them to kill every last man woman and child and occupy the lands, the Hebrews balked at this notion and did something more akin to invading, killing who they had to in order to occupy the land. This of course seemed like the right thing to do as it spared lives.
but in the end, if they had listened to God there would currently be no war in the middle east as there would have been no one left to object. So the lives that were spared previously have now been far out paced by the level of killing that came afterwards.
I'm not saying that they should have killed everyone like they were commanded to, i'm just making the observation.
Or else when my wife catches me, I won't be able to pass it off that I was flipping through the Victoria's Secret catalog just because i was interested in finding something for her...
They believe that some can obtain God status and then rule their own universe, which would match up to this theory, i guess South Park was right in their movie after all...
"This is the CEO. Report to my office immediately.
Then get the fuck out, cuz your fired."
This is the head of the board of directors, please come to the board room, and pack up your shit, your fired.. we don't need any Enron types at this company.
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"but nothing stops the other players from typing nasty words."
Actually that's not true, the multiplayer chat in C&C generals and LOTR BFME both have language filters, if you try and type a dirty word it just shows as **** (I think this is true for EA PC games in general.
As for spelling out dirty words with tiles or buildings in mutiplayer maps or user generated content (like WC3 custom maps) there is nothing preventing it, although they could just not allow user created content, or make building placement static (like, once again, Lord of the rings, battle for middle earth).
"and yet both next door neighbors have it, as well as most of the surrounding houses. One next-door house is even further away from the CO than I am."
If you can manage them to do it, try to have them check the end to end cable, from your house to the CO, when i first tried to get DSL they told me the same thing, but when they checked end to end they noticed that a loop of wire was connected somewhere along the way increasing my distance by about 1000', once they re-routed my connection i was then (amazingly) within the limit for DSL.. i have had their "premium" service ever since...
"This is costing Nintendo possibly millions of dollars."
I think the main problem is that Nintendo is having a hard time getting to their production facilities to find out what the problem is, you see they already have millions of dollars in profits that they are wading through.
Surprisingly enough whenever a Wii is found on sale people immediately buy them.
Manufacturers want their products to fly off the shelves, products on shelves mean depreciation of inventory at their manufacturing plants, this costs them money.
Nobody at Sony is going "oh good, the stock we shipped to retailers is sitting idle, we are in a much better position than Nintendo who can't make their product fast enough".
At least internally anyway, publicly i'm sure its a different story.
no I was saying they were helped to embargo any oil imports to Japan, your argument is interesting but unfortunately wrong..
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"In July 1939, the U.S. terminated the 1911 U.S.-Japan commerce treaty, an action which showed official disapproval and, more concretely, allowed the U.S. to impose trade embargoes. Nevertheless, Japan continued its military campaign in China and later signed with Nazi Germany the Anti-Comintern Pact, which formally ended World War I hostilities and declared common interests. In 1940, Japan signed the Tripartite Pact with Germany and Fascist Italy to form the Axis Powers."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harb
You can see that America ended trade with Japan, japan THEN joined the germans as allies.. Japan tried to get oil from other interests but avoided those which would have drawn america into war with them, eventually they decided to act proactively and attacked the US.
I am saying we provoked them into fighting to get us into a war that would bring us out of a depression.
"Japan was a strong supporter of Hitler."
Because of American blockades, they felt they had no other choice but to ally with a nation that could help them obtain resources. America basically forced them into war with us, this isn't about trading with them directly, it was about not letting any other country trade with them as well.
"discouraged for rampaging across other soveriegn nations, enslaving their population, yeah. "
Yes, "discouraged" by harming their populace and cutting off their only supply of resources (Japan has to import pretty much all resources since they have very limited of their own), maybe if Amercia could learn to butt out of other nation's problems we wouldn't become embroiled in wars on foreign lands.
"unless you want YOUR place of business or home being intruded by protesters because they don't like you or your ideas"
That also makes perfect sense, because as a business i would rather ignore the wishes of possible consumers.
"so it's ok to force yourself into someone else's property as long as you aren't a threat to them?"
You're right, i wish they had places so designated to let us know where it is safe to protest so problems like these could be avoided, we could even call them "safe-zones" and put up signs or something...
"you mean an unprovoked attack"
You consider choking off the supply of oil to a sovereign nation "unprovoked"?
"all you had to do was click on a small icon next to someones name in the scoreboard and it would mute/unmute their voice comms."
Which is exactly how it should work, you could even do this while running towards an objective or doing some other action, and when the person talked you could also see who it was in the scoreboard as you were about to mute them.
HL2's method requires you to stop whatever you are doing, hit esc, click a link to bring up the player menu, click the players name (if you have remembered it this far since you can't see the normal screen with the voice icon any longer) and then click a button that says "mute".
ARGGGHGHGHG!!!!!
Before with HL1 i muting some jerk was easy and painless, now i either mute EVERYONE as soon as a join a game, or get distracted between playing and trying to figure out what jerkwad is randomly yelling faggot every so often (or even more annoying, playing some stupid song).
Like much of Source, valve took something that was working just fine and f'ed it up.
"The maximum clockspeed the processor can manage with some stability is dictated by it's temperature."
Yes but they are saying at 110C (note celcius) it runs at 3.13 GHZ, so in order to run at that speed you would need liquid cooling or such, same for 5GHZ. I mean it's great the power consumption is relatively low, but that is still a scorcher.
I mean I can run my opteron 1.8 GHZ at 3 GHZ too if my thermal limit is 110c, but would I want to or is it going to be stable without a shit load of colling? probably not.
"when people are running around screaming "They've got guns! They've got guns!" only a moron pulls out a plastic gun and waves it around."
I missed the Fox news report about bombs that look like blinking cartoon characters made out of LEDs.
Otherwise a completely valid comparison.
"Sure, I wouldn't recognize the characters of Aqua Teen, but I would have been nervous even if it was Bart Simpson flipping a bird. You don't have to be very smart to make a bomb that looks like some kind of toy. And you would be very naive to ignore a bomb or a gun that looks like a toy."
This is exactly the paranoid reaction that plagued the Boston police, If you are already so scared witless that you assume every toy lying on the street is a bomb, we have bigger problems than guerrilla marketing.
OF course i agree that there should have been some type of identifying info on the marketing devices.
"That's why science depends so much on peer review. For an experimental result to be accepted, it must be repeated by other researchers who read the original paper and tried to replicate the experiment using the description in the paper."
Which makes it all the more sad that no other scientists tried to peer review it.. but i guess they would have been met with the same ridicule that PEAR did.
This seems the be one of the weaknesses of peer review, as has happened before, theories which might be actually correct, have stagnated due to not wanting to stray from what is already established "Science", which seems counter-intuitive as Science has always tried to push the boundaries of what is "known".
*sigh*
"I suspect the mods were, in fact, simply ignorant. If it had been set at 4 or 5, insightful, and the mods thought this a tad high, I'd agree with the rest of your sentiment."
I think it is more likely that this is because the scientific method (and "science" in general) is "like" a religion to some people, thusly you see the same rabid fanaticism against anything that might prove critical of the Scientific Method or anything that is being tested by the SM but is not regarded as Science... like the PEAR studies...
As if by just being associated with Science or possibly pointing out weaknesses of the SM when dealing with some theories, it would somehow lesson the power that the SM has to help find the truth. I find it equally as silly as people blowing themselves up to prove they are righteous.
Did anyone else see that?
"Even more impressive, this chip is able to achieve incredibly high clock speeds on modest power usage. Running on a 1.0v current at 110 degrees C the tile maximum frequency is 3.13 GHz while at 1.2v the tiles can run at 4.0 GHz."
That would be about 250f, would peltier coolers be mandatory?
"So what you're saying is that we should get beavers to do all of our work for us?"
I think that is exactly what he is saying, because he is in league with the beaver unions!!!
Science Damn him!
"Call me when you've found a way to drive truck with geothermal power."
Use the power to create hydrogen, or electricity.
Figured I'd post since I didn't have your number.
"When they finally get there, they discover..."
:(
They accidentally bought the seeds from Monsanto and they only get one crop
I've always liked the idea of let down endings, more dramatic that way (aka million dollar baby)
"Actually, a couple. First, Minority Report was only about preventing murder and rape. All other crime was untouched (and even rising)."
That was because (according to the story line) precogs could only predict murders due to how they upset the balance of the universe, or something along those lines, because it made such an effect that the precogs could sense it... but i believe there was a commercial later in the movie saying how eventually they would be able to stop "rape, theft and so on".
Somebody please check the GP's pants for scorching. I want to make sure no hot spots remain.
"If someone compels you against your will, e.g., by forcibly reading your mind, then you're hardly at fault."
Yet.
If we are at the point where people are being forced to have brain scans to judge their intent, I doubt the current laws would exist as they currently do, actually i am positive they would be expanded to include intentions.
All it will take is for someone to do something horrific that could have been prevented because "we knew what he intended to do and did nothing".
When they arrived to the chosen land, after wandering the desert, God commanded them to kill every last man woman and child and occupy the lands, the Hebrews balked at this notion and did something more akin to invading, killing who they had to in order to occupy the land. This of course seemed like the right thing to do as it spared lives.
but in the end, if they had listened to God there would currently be no war in the middle east as there would have been no one left to object. So the lives that were spared previously have now been far out paced by the level of killing that came afterwards.
I'm not saying that they should have killed everyone like they were commanded to, i'm just making the observation.
Or else when my wife catches me, I won't be able to pass it off that I was flipping through the Victoria's Secret catalog just because i was interested in finding something for her...
They believe that some can obtain God status and then rule their own universe, which would match up to this theory, i guess South Park was right in their movie after all...
"This is the CEO. Report to my office immediately.
Then get the fuck out, cuz your fired."
This is the head of the board of directors, please come to the board room, and pack up your shit, your fired.. we don't need any Enron types at this company.