That was probably me, man there were a lot of people who used keyboard only with quake (because until quake there wasn't any real way to use mouse effectively (full range of movement, up-down-left-right)) so there was a big delta between skill levels of those who used mouse and those who didn't;)
You ever play on mplayer back in the quake days?
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Still doesn't make sense, you could go get a new pure-bred cat for $1000 or less and still stud it, I have a pure-bred golden lab (papers and all, award winning father) paid $400 for him and I could stud him out now for $400 stud fee or pick of the litter.
"Is it evil to allow yourself to be a tool for those are perpetuating evil? I can't answer that either."
Well from a biblical standpoint there is a passage that says "It must be that Evil will come into the world, but woe be to that man through which it comes" (i think i got it exact)
So I guess in the end you are responsible for your part in bringing or helping to bring evil into the world...
"If you're afraid a game might have more influence over what they think is right and wrong then your parenting has, I'd say you've done something seriously wrong."
Amen to that!, While I was playing GTA 3 one day, my daughter (9 years old) happened to be watching me over my shoulder, as she saw me running over people with cars or shooting people as I drove by, she exclaimed "No Daddy! You have to be nice to the people! Don't run people over!", and then she proceeded to plead for me to do the non- violent missions like taxi driver or fire truck so that I could help people once she learned that was also part of the game.
When i read the article I saw this quote and it made me think:
"But I don't believe that my 8-year-old daughter has a constitutional right to cut somebody's head off in a game that she plays."
And I thought about my childs reaction to GTA3...
If this congressman's daughter's style of play would be to decapitate innocent civilians in the game, then I think that is more indicitive of a lack of proper parenting rather than an influence of a game over children.
I think this article is a good example of the downward spiral that America is currently in, where the land of the free has become the land of the government dictated morality.
"You might find that I really don't care about the details of biblical violence. I'm more interested as to why people are yacking about that when the real subject is how distractions like violent video games are used to get people to ignore what's going on behind their backs,"
If you are going to make statements about what the bible contains, then I am going to corrct you when your statements are incorrect, I consider it too important a subject to let incorrect information about the bible to be presented as fact or knowledge.
Although I do agree with your standpoint when it comes to politicians and their moral crusades.
Politicians should be vehicles for the populace to create the environment in which they want to live in, not "protectors" or framers of policy that correspond to their own personal viewpoints/morals.
"In the Bible, God himself tried to kill almost everything on the planet. He created plagues, locusts, fires, floods, etc. in an attempt to demonstrate the consequences of sinning"
Uh no, have you even read the bible or have you just "heard things" about it?
In the Bible God does kill everything on the planet save for 2 of each animal and one family with a flood.
In the Bible God sent plagues of different kinds to early Egypt in order to demonstrate his authority over the current Pharoh who declared himself a god and to get the Pharoh to let the hebrew slaves go free.
In the Bible God destroyed 2 cities with Meteors of fire and brimstone to punish them for their wickedness.
I don't see how having the state tell me what is right or wrong for my kids is in any way beneficial?
"If I want them to have it, I'll get it for them myself."
Not when the government says it is illegal to let your child have things you would want them to try or have, they will lock you up and give your children to someone else...
This sin't about people forcing kids to play violent games, it's about restricting freedom of choice...
Ultimately the parents are to blame for what their children do while they are being raised by the parents...
"The collective is a non-profit agency that collects and distributes private copying royalties to musicians, songwriters and record companies."
How do they determine who gets how much of the royalties? They can't have any possible way of knowing accurately who's music is being pirated and who's isn't and how much of either, wouldn't this all be guess work with most of the royalties going to bands who are in the top10/20 on the charts? (If that is the way they determine this kind of thing)
I don't see how this could be fairly distributed...
"How is it that you call "Black" people African-American but you call European-Americans or Caucasians "White"? You're a racist and you disgust me. I will NOT be identified as a color."
"Video games feature prominently in the mainstream african american community, while in the white community they are still by and large considered "childish" or "geeky". "
I know many "white" guys who are totally into gaming and the gaming culture, besides I thought all "white" suburban teenage types were into gangsta rap...
"TV producers are clueless to what the 20 something male wants, that is why the number of male TV viewers in their 20's is dropping. The only things worth watching for me are the History Channel, some sporting events and the News Telecasts. Everything else is near worthless and at times insulting."
Exactly, I would add to this that males in their early 30's hold this same view as well (um because im 32:P)
Actually Truth be told most of the mainstream media does not lean to the left, that is right wing propaganda... BUT there are dedicated news outlets who ARE right wing biased (aka FOX).
"As this is a US site the majority of people wouldn't know Wales if it hit them in the ass"
I took a look at the picture but I don't see anything wrong with the map? I see GB and the land thingy above it (Ireland?) where does whales go? aren't they in the ocean anyway?
There was an episode on "Sienfeld" where the gang was held legally responsible because they stood by and let a mugging happen, I thought this episode was based on a law that Juiliani passed while he was in office, is this correct?
yah it "works" for 14 people but I wouldn't call it well, as a server also needs headroom for spikes in activity, pings, connections, downloads (in game, etc) and logging... so everytime that 88% hits 100% even for a few seconds it creates lag for players which is detrimental to keeping a server populated.
I have run multiple gaming platform servers on this same machine (quake3, ut2003/4, bf1942, etc..) and only lately with steam have we seen it brought to it's knees... alot of people on the HLDS (half life dedicated server) mailing list seem to have come to the same conclusions...
So just FYI, not bashing your game server knowledge;)
Well there are things like (for an example) "if someone wrongs you, do something good for the person and God will deliver the just punishment, but if you are happy with the punishment (meaning you find pleasure that your "enemy" is being punished) the punishment will end"
I have tested this a few times and it does work, both the retribution God visits on the "enemy" and it's end once you find pleasure in it... there are other things like this which I could elaborate on if you wish;)
"The server is the device that needs maximum bandwidth, not cpu power."
Heh well then i guesss you ahven't been running any Sources servers lately.
Ever since the addition of steam the requirements for the server has gone up quite considerably...
Right now we have a clan server (dual p3 650s, 768 of ram, 1mb/sec or more of bandwidth)that runs CS:Source with 18 player limit, at 14 players the cpu utilization is at 88% constant...
But pre-steam we could run 2 CS 1.5 or earlier servers with a maxplayer limit of 20 (so 40 clients total) and maybe hit this level of utilization but usually it was at about 20-30% per server...
These Ratings are GUIDELINES and should not be imposed by stores.
Unless it is a law I don't want stores imposing limits on what can and can't be bought by my children, that is up to me, I am raising them, not some group who deems halo2 bad but jax3 good (which in both you destroy "teh evil").
I know this might seem radical but it is truely up to the parents to guide their children in what is right and wrong, good and bad for them to experience while they are growing.
It's not like banning them or labeling them with a "code" maks them any less accessible (esp with bitorrent).
SO in conclusion thanks to all of the people who are behind this ratings crap (for movies, games, tv, etc...) for making sure that everything is watered down to the point where nobody could ever possibly be offended or *gasp* see reality as it pretty much already exists.
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TeePees Wikiups, TeePees Wikiups, sounds to me like you are two tents.
That was probably me, man there were a lot of people who used keyboard only with quake (because until quake there wasn't any real way to use mouse effectively (full range of movement, up-down-left-right)) so there was a big delta between skill levels of those who used mouse and those who didn't ;)
You ever play on mplayer back in the quake days?
Still doesn't make sense, you could go get a new pure-bred cat for $1000 or less and still stud it, I have a pure-bred golden lab (papers and all, award winning father) paid $400 for him and I could stud him out now for $400 stud fee or pick of the litter.
"Is it evil to allow yourself to be a tool for those are perpetuating evil? I can't answer that either."
Well from a biblical standpoint there is a passage that says "It must be that Evil will come into the world, but woe be to that man through which it comes" (i think i got it exact)
So I guess in the end you are responsible for your part in bringing or helping to bring evil into the world...
could they add more protien buffers to prolong the life of the animal/dna strand? Does protien folding at home have anything to do with this idea?
"If you're afraid a game might have more influence over what they think is right and wrong then your parenting has, I'd say you've done something seriously wrong."
Amen to that!, While I was playing GTA 3 one day, my daughter (9 years old) happened to be watching me over my shoulder, as she saw me running over people with cars or shooting people as I drove by, she exclaimed "No Daddy! You have to be nice to the people! Don't run people over!", and then she proceeded to plead for me to do the non- violent missions like taxi driver or fire truck so that I could help people once she learned that was also part of the game.
When i read the article I saw this quote and it made me think:
"But I don't believe that my 8-year-old daughter has a constitutional right to cut somebody's head off in a game that she plays."
And I thought about my childs reaction to GTA3...
If this congressman's daughter's style of play would be to decapitate innocent civilians in the game, then I think that is more indicitive of a lack of proper parenting rather than an influence of a game over children.
I think this article is a good example of the downward spiral that America is currently in, where the land of the free has become the land of the government dictated morality.
"You might find that I really don't care about the details of biblical violence. I'm more interested as to why people are yacking about that when the real subject is how distractions like violent video games are used to get people to ignore what's going on behind their backs,"
If you are going to make statements about what the bible contains, then I am going to corrct you when your statements are incorrect, I consider it too important a subject to let incorrect information about the bible to be presented as fact or knowledge.
Although I do agree with your standpoint when it comes to politicians and their moral crusades.
Politicians should be vehicles for the populace to create the environment in which they want to live in, not "protectors" or framers of policy that correspond to their own personal viewpoints/morals.
"In the Bible, God himself tried to kill almost everything on the planet. He created plagues, locusts, fires, floods, etc. in an attempt to demonstrate the consequences of sinning"
Uh no, have you even read the bible or have you just "heard things" about it?
In the Bible God does kill everything on the planet save for 2 of each animal and one family with a flood.
In the Bible God sent plagues of different kinds to early Egypt in order to demonstrate his authority over the current Pharoh who declared himself a god and to get the Pharoh to let the hebrew slaves go free.
In the Bible God destroyed 2 cities with Meteors of fire and brimstone to punish them for their wickedness.
So you were close.. but then again not.
I don't see how having the state tell me what is right or wrong for my kids is in any way beneficial?
"If I want them to have it, I'll get it for them myself."
Not when the government says it is illegal to let your child have things you would want them to try or have, they will lock you up and give your children to someone else...
This sin't about people forcing kids to play violent games, it's about restricting freedom of choice...
Ultimately the parents are to blame for what their children do while they are being raised by the parents...
"The collective is a non-profit agency that collects and distributes private copying royalties to musicians, songwriters and record companies."
How do they determine who gets how much of the royalties? They can't have any possible way of knowing accurately who's music is being pirated and who's isn't and how much of either, wouldn't this all be guess work with most of the royalties going to bands who are in the top10/20 on the charts? (If that is the way they determine this kind of thing)
I don't see how this could be fairly distributed...
"How is it that you call "Black" people African-American but you call European-Americans or Caucasians "White"? You're a racist and you disgust me. I will NOT be identified as a color."
Besides i'm more of a pinkish color anyway...
"Video games feature prominently in the mainstream african american community, while in the white community they are still by and large considered "childish" or "geeky". "
I know many "white" guys who are totally into gaming and the gaming culture, besides I thought all "white" suburban teenage types were into gangsta rap...
"TV producers are clueless to what the 20 something male wants, that is why the number of male TV viewers in their 20's is dropping. The only things worth watching for me are the History Channel, some sporting events and the News Telecasts. Everything else is near worthless and at times insulting."
:P)
Exactly, I would add to this that males in their early 30's hold this same view as well (um because im 32
Actually Truth be told most of the mainstream media does not lean to the left, that is right wing propaganda... BUT there are dedicated news outlets who ARE right wing biased (aka FOX).
"As this is a US site the majority of people wouldn't know Wales if it hit them in the ass"
I took a look at the picture but I don't see anything wrong with the map? I see GB and the land thingy above it (Ireland?) where does whales go? aren't they in the ocean anyway?
Hmm I dunno, also.. why does my butt hurt?
or in the users view, the only winning move IS to play.
"I remember being startled later when they finally aired that movie with "bitch" in the clear. Now "bitch" is being censored again."
Maybe because the second time they realized that the alien was female (and thusly indeed a "bitch")?
Good comments all around though.
Thanks for the correct spelling of Giuliani. :)
"Yeah, and if you look in the dictionary under redundant it says "see redundant.""
And if you try to look up the word Naive it isn't there...
"I don't claim this is true, but a significant majority of the news meida does lean left - even counting Fox "
Bill o rielly, Hannity and Ann Coulter lean left?
What are you talking about?
There was an episode on "Sienfeld" where the gang was held legally responsible because they stood by and let a mugging happen, I thought this episode was based on a law that Juiliani passed while he was in office, is this correct?
yah it "works" for 14 people but I wouldn't call it well, as a server also needs headroom for spikes in activity, pings, connections, downloads (in game, etc) and logging... so everytime that 88% hits 100% even for a few seconds it creates lag for players which is detrimental to keeping a server populated.
;)
I have run multiple gaming platform servers on this same machine (quake3, ut2003/4, bf1942, etc..) and only lately with steam have we seen it brought to it's knees... alot of people on the HLDS (half life dedicated server) mailing list seem to have come to the same conclusions...
So just FYI, not bashing your game server knowledge
Well there are things like (for an example) "if someone wrongs you, do something good for the person and God will deliver the just punishment, but if you are happy with the punishment (meaning you find pleasure that your "enemy" is being punished) the punishment will end"
;)
:)
I have tested this a few times and it does work, both the retribution God visits on the "enemy" and it's end once you find pleasure in it... there are other things like this which I could elaborate on if you wish
Ill check out that link though.. thanks
"The server is the device that needs maximum bandwidth, not cpu power."
Heh well then i guesss you ahven't been running any Sources servers lately.
Ever since the addition of steam the requirements for the server has gone up quite considerably...
Right now we have a clan server (dual p3 650s, 768 of ram, 1mb/sec or more of bandwidth)that runs CS:Source with 18 player limit, at 14 players the cpu utilization is at 88% constant...
But pre-steam we could run 2 CS 1.5 or earlier servers with a maxplayer limit of 20 (so 40 clients total) and maybe hit this level of utilization but usually it was at about 20-30% per server...
These Ratings are GUIDELINES and should not be imposed by stores.
Unless it is a law I don't want stores imposing limits on what can and can't be bought by my children, that is up to me, I am raising them, not some group who deems halo2 bad but jax3 good (which in both you destroy "teh evil").
I know this might seem radical but it is truely up to the parents to guide their children in what is right and wrong, good and bad for them to experience while they are growing.
It's not like banning them or labeling them with a "code" maks them any less accessible (esp with bitorrent).
SO in conclusion thanks to all of the people who are behind this ratings crap (for movies, games, tv, etc...) for making sure that everything is watered down to the point where nobody could ever possibly be offended or *gasp* see reality as it pretty much already exists.