Most PS2 games make use of the rumble feature of the dualshock controller as a part of the gaming experience. And until the PS3 has a method of using the old controller with the old games you will be missing out on that experience, when you play your PS2 games on your PS3.
You mean like the many PS2 Controler-to-usb adaptors?
Backwards compatibility was one of the 2 key reasons I decided to purchase a PS3 despite it's sluggish initial sales and the rants of nay-sayers. Being able to provide 2 generations of dominant platform compatibility is no joke. I still have a large library of PS1 and PS2 games. I wish I could say the same about all my other consoles that have died.
My other reason was that blu-ray was quickly taking over the market. So I feel like I have a good investment in my PS3 even if it doesn't do that dominate as a game console as past generations did.
Given the high price of the PS3, it's going to need lots of different incentives to get people to make such an investment. Backwards compatibility is one such investment that should not be overlooked.
At least to my knowledge, I haven't heard of the EU PS3 being cheaper, but rather more expensive.
You can't really tell that just from the retail price. If you are in the U.S. and want a cheaper PS3, then go to Canada. You want one even cheaper then you go to China. The European price would be higher even with the exact same hardware. There are taxes, cost of employment,... and evil things like how much the market will bare.
Actually the PS3 happens to be markedly superior to all the sub 1k blu-ray players which is astonishing really. It's a good DVD player too. If you want a better HD experience you are going to be spending 1.5k on a Panasonic and avoiding all the Samsung's and, suprisingly, Sony's. That's right, Sony's own more expensive blu-ray players are inferior to Sony's PS3. Not that they are bad.
Aside from the better visuals, it has some nice features like 150% FF with pitch adjusted audio.
A good TV will always have a better scaler than any device because the TV knows what it's own native resolution is and the device doesn't. What that guy said only applies to cheap TV's.
And DVI/HDMI > Component if you have a good signal. I don't find it necessary for my HD cable because the video is so compressed.
On all comparison shots... perhaps, certainly on EA games. But some of the PS3 exclusives have good lighting, like Genji which isn't a particularly good game but has beautiful environments. But also I find that the lighting in some XBox360 games like Fight Night and Need for Speed is set a bit too high for my personal preference. I fear that lighting may be like music in that people often mistake louder for better.
The only difference I really notice is that the PS3 version seems to lack as good of shadows on the environment. This makes the crowd and some of the environmental placeables like drapes look better. But as the OP said, the Xbox360 version seems to have the lighting or bloom or something turned up too high. Maybe these are related issues, but I do think the 360 version looks better. The character models and their shadows look almost indistinguishable to me. Actually now that I look again, I see more muscular definition on the PS3 characters. It looks like they have improved textures.
Basically the same thing happened in Madden, which leads me to believe that the EA developers rushed their PS3 games out before they got a hang of some stuff like shadows. You can blame EA or you can blame the complexity of developing games for the PS3. Probably a bit of both.
I just saw 2 Wii sitting on the shelf at my BestBuy. This was this evening, so obviously nobody camped out there this morning. I think the supply is matching the demand where I live.
But if the rate at which an individual PS3 owner purchases Blu-ray movies doesn't go down as fast as the total number of PS3 owners goes up, there could be this effect you speak of and still Blu-ray purchases increase even more.
Just because someone owns a PS3 does not mean they own a television that will benefit from the enhanced resolution over DVD...you forget, MANY MANY people still have standard def 480i tv's with NO hdtv's in their lives.
Sony polled their PS2 owners to find out how many already owned HDTV's and how many planned on purchasing an HDTV in the next couple of years. The total percentage was very large, around 70%. If you don't own an HDTV and you don't plan on purchasing one, chances are good that you don't own a PS2 and aren't in the market for a PS3 anyhow. Your argument about the general public doesn't really hold for PS3 purchaser demographic.
The Amazon reviews say that The Fifth Element 2006 release was a terrible transfer and looks horrible... and that there will be a new release this year. Also, I find that BestBuy's prices are about $5 more than Amazon.
You don't like squidbillies? You must be one of them chalkies. Chalk-man a' skiing on his white snow in his tightie whites, just like the white wing dove sing a song about what they singin'! Can't tell them apart. Looking like a bunch of lightbulbs with shoes on, all be-boppin' around all over the place.
You mean like the many PS2 Controler-to-usb adaptors?
(Score:3, Informative my Arse)
Backwards compatibility was one of the 2 key reasons I decided to purchase a PS3 despite it's sluggish initial sales and the rants of nay-sayers. Being able to provide 2 generations of dominant platform compatibility is no joke. I still have a large library of PS1 and PS2 games. I wish I could say the same about all my other consoles that have died.
My other reason was that blu-ray was quickly taking over the market. So I feel like I have a good investment in my PS3 even if it doesn't do that dominate as a game console as past generations did.
Given the high price of the PS3, it's going to need lots of different incentives to get people to make such an investment. Backwards compatibility is one such investment that should not be overlooked.
You can't really tell that just from the retail price. If you are in the U.S. and want a cheaper PS3, then go to Canada. You want one even cheaper then you go to China. The European price would be higher even with the exact same hardware. There are taxes, cost of employment,
Braking in space.
If they'd turn their brakes around backwards, they would work better than their dang warp drives.
The episode of Cowboy Bebop with the eyeball drugs comes to mind... the dog chase at the end.
He's still technically correct. You will roll backwards as you punch. He did not say otherwise.
You don't see people's skeleton glow when they are being electrocuted.
I was cured by a physics degree.
There is hope.
Actually the PS3 happens to be markedly superior to all the sub 1k blu-ray players which is astonishing really. It's a good DVD player too. If you want a better HD experience you are going to be spending 1.5k on a Panasonic and avoiding all the Samsung's and, suprisingly, Sony's. That's right, Sony's own more expensive blu-ray players are inferior to Sony's PS3. Not that they are bad.
Aside from the better visuals, it has some nice features like 150% FF with pitch adjusted audio.
Every point in the universe is the center of the universe.
Would you like a 0$ refund?
for the Wii's half-assed multiplayer support.
For the PS2, it depends on the game. Try the last GT and GoW.
A good TV will always have a better scaler than any device because the TV knows what it's own native resolution is and the device doesn't. What that guy said only applies to cheap TV's.
And DVI/HDMI > Component if you have a good signal. I don't find it necessary for my HD cable because the video is so compressed.
On all comparison shots... perhaps, certainly on EA games. But some of the PS3 exclusives have good lighting, like Genji which isn't a particularly good game but has beautiful environments. But also I find that the lighting in some XBox360 games like Fight Night and Need for Speed is set a bit too high for my personal preference. I fear that lighting may be like music in that people often mistake louder for better.
The only difference I really notice is that the PS3 version seems to lack as good of shadows on the environment. This makes the crowd and some of the environmental placeables like drapes look better. But as the OP said, the Xbox360 version seems to have the lighting or bloom or something turned up too high. Maybe these are related issues, but I do think the 360 version looks better. The character models and their shadows look almost indistinguishable to me. Actually now that I look again, I see more muscular definition on the PS3 characters. It looks like they have improved textures.
Basically the same thing happened in Madden, which leads me to believe that the EA developers rushed their PS3 games out before they got a hang of some stuff like shadows. You can blame EA or you can blame the complexity of developing games for the PS3. Probably a bit of both.
I just saw 2 Wii sitting on the shelf at my BestBuy. This was this evening, so obviously nobody camped out there this morning. I think the supply is matching the demand where I live.
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Here is the BestBuy, if you live in the MD/DC area.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat120
But if the rate at which an individual PS3 owner purchases Blu-ray movies doesn't go down as fast as the total number of PS3 owners goes up, there could be this effect you speak of and still Blu-ray purchases increase even more.
The Amazon reviews say that The Fifth Element 2006 release was a terrible transfer and looks horrible... and that there will be a new release this year. Also, I find that BestBuy's prices are about $5 more than Amazon.
You don't like squidbillies? You must be one of them chalkies. Chalk-man a' skiing on his white snow in his tightie whites, just like the white wing dove sing a song about what they singin'! Can't tell them apart. Looking like a bunch of lightbulbs with shoes on, all be-boppin' around all over the place.
I'm not buying an XBox360 'till there is a model with DVI/HDMI and HD-DVD built in.
Does the XBox need it? No, and they don't need my $500 either.
That's pretty much sums it up. Look at the 20 most anticipated games in Japan.
http://the-magicbox.com/topten3.htm
6 DS games
3 Wii games
6 PS3 games
3 PS2 games
1 PSP game
1 360 game
Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey simply aren't enough. They need 3-6 times this many Blue Dragon's and Lost Odyssey's.