The main places you want to look for MegaSquirt stuff is:
Yahoo MegaSquirt Group
This has the message archives, files, and links to MS related sites.
MegaSquirt FAQ
This is the place that you should look for answers before sending to the list. If it hasn't been asked here, Lance is more than happy to add the Q/A to the FAQ. It's very well organized and will take a novice through the whole process.
Since Bruce and Al's site was already linked, I'll forego that link. The best place to start is the Yahoo group, since it really is the nexus.
Just a couple of quick bits. If you are planning on using GM TBI injectors, get some 2 ohm 25 watt ballast resistors FIRST.
Second, if you are planning on using a distributor for the tach signal, you are best off by using the hall sensor directly. A lot of VAG vehicles have reported noise problems on the tach signal.
These are really the only 2 things I'd want to caution about first.
All in all, the MegaSquirt is a good system for DIYers because it bypasses all of the complexity of factory systems. You can use it with most factory sensors and it performs great. One of the bread and butter applications is replacing CIS with EFI, many people have done it.
BTW, my engine is the 1991 CBR 600 F2 engine on the IT Runs! page.
I believe the 22Mbps cards are merely full duplex. You won't see any speed difference in normal downloads because you aren't needing full duplex. Get in an environment where you have multiple cards on the same channel and you'll see a difference. This is because the WIFI network is like an ethernet hub, everyone sees everyone else's traffic, so they contribute to the entire usage of the network.
SD has problems that wouldn't make it ideal for this purpose. SD is similar to MMC, but MMC is more versatile. MMC offers parallel and serial communication to the media. Although the top clock speed is 20 Mhz, this means that in serial mode you can get 20Mbps and in parallel, 20MBps. Generally speaking this isn't particularly fast. ST just came out with an 8Mbit SPI flash that can clock up to 25Mhz, so it only takes 42ms to read the entire thing. That's a pretty fast serial flash chip, most are fairly slow. Even the fast flash chips are still several times slower than SDRAM, writing to them is actually slower than a harddrive. The erase time is around 10ms, with 2ms program time, all for a single sector of flash. The sector size varies from part to part, but 256 bytes to 512 bytes isn't unheard of. Once an HDD seeks (8ms) and settles (4ms), it can read or write away at very high speeds, HDD overhead is nearly identical to flash overhead for write, but the bandwidth is much higher.
All that being said, a flash CF card is a good choice for embedded use.
BTW, those are the stock photography, nothing that the linked site doesn't have.
I'd really like to know why ThinkGeek is always the worst deal at geeky things. They are always way overpriced at most of the things they carry. A good example is this watch, the linked site lists it for $93, whereas ThinkGeek is selling it for $119, a $26 dollar premium. When you consider what USB drives and cheap citizen watches go for, you'll quickly realize that they are making a lot of money off this product. The linked site is still making good money, Thinkgeek is probably just making at least another 50% more.
It just bugs me that ThinkGeek has some cool stuff, but none of it is a bargain, especially when Fry's carries the same stuff for a lot less usually. Too bad.
You know, this whole 352x240 == VHS resolution is such a farse. First, NTSC signals are analog, which means there is virtually infinite horizontal resolution. It's well known that NTSC has 525 lines, which is 262.5 lines per field. Most VCRs are specced at 260lines of resolution, but because they don't have any concept of pixels, it's largely based on the quality of the unit. There are many factors that influence the quality of the recording. Honestly, 720x540 is the minimum acceptable digital analogue of the NTSC spec.
The biggest problem with the analog to digital conversion is that most units do not convert the interlaced input into a progressive format before recording. Because of this the effective resolution of the digital copy is much degraded. If you want a semi-reasonable dub, you need to perform progressive conversion before downsampling the resolution. You will notice that many PVRs do this, I know that my Replay does.
The other problem with encoding to digital is the loss of the interframe data. There are 21 lines of information that contains things like captions and program data. These are not preserved by the traditional conversion process. This is where the PVRs get it right again. They will store the data in the interframe area.
The bottom line is that 1GB per hour of video is the bare minimum quality. 3GB per hour is better, realtime is closer to 4.5GB per hour. You need about 5-6Mbps encoding rate in MPEG to get decent video. 9Mbps is what Superbit is IIRC.
Well, you're already late. For Corps the due date is March 15th, not April 15th. For the Feds, go to the IRS website and get the fill-in PDF for the taxes. It's fairly simple and only takes a couple of hours to do. Basically you enter zeroes for most stuff. If you're in CA, you have to pay the Alternative Minimum Tax, which is an $800.00 kickback you pay to the state for having a corp. You pay AMT if you have less than $800.00 in taxes, otherwise you just pay your tax amount. The federal form is 1120, the state form in 940 IIRC.
I too have a corp (S-corp) that made 0 income last year. You also had to file a tax return with the State board of equalization by 1/31 if you had a reseller's permit. If you have inventory in stock, it defers to the year you sell those goods.
You'll also get a query from the IRS on wages that were paid, and how much taxes you paid on that. You'll also get a query about principal stock interest in the company, if it changed from the prior filing year.
Season passes are just another name for Theme channels. I can tell the replay to record any show named "Law & Order" at any time, and it'll get Law & Order, Law & Order: SVU, and Law & Order: CI. I use this feature for half of my recordings because some stations move their content around a lot (like TNN).
I haven't a clue what a Wishlist is.
With any luck my 2 replays won't be obsoleted; I paid for the lifetime subscription, therefore I feel I'm owed the balance of the $200 back for each of them if they go under, not to mention the ability to "unlock" the machine to use with a third party channel guide.
So Tivo users will have the same functionality as Replay 4000+ users do? It's a damn shame that SonicBlue is in the toilet. With the exception of playing music, my 4580 does all the things Tivo just announced. What's even better is that the line protocol has already been hacked and I can watch recorded programs from any computer in the house with mplayer. Also, I can share with my buddy across the country if he ever gets a 4k series.
Truely a damn shame about Replay. Heck, I've been TCPdumping all comms with it since I heard so that I can disect how to emulate the replay server if it comes to it.
I bought one of those MSN Companion puters from Tiger direct a year ago. I signed up for the MSN service (free 6mo) to play with the puter before I nuked the OS. I signed up as "ipaqheat@msn.com". This is not an address that was published, as I have never used it. Within a week of signing up I had a SPAM in the mailbox. The way I see it, Microsoft had to sell my information to a spammer for that to happen. I hold them responsible for it. I've since canceled the account.
Hehe, and he'll have 4 times the debt because he had to pay back all of those loans.
Most of the people I know that stayed in it for the long haul are ear deep in debt for 5 years after they are out of school. They have a fancy degree with a B in front of it and they live like the impoverished.
Okay, so the big cities. Look at it this way: The underground is a primary means of transportation in such cities. To that extent you can be tracked everywhere you go via CCTV.
The worst thing about CCTV *isn't* the fact there are cameras, it's that they have hours of footage stored away for long periods of time. If you were *seriously* in suspect by the police, they'd go and dig up weeks old and perhaps months old footage of you.
What if you were a citizen that had some undue interest (celebrities, financial types, etc) and some CCTV footage of you meeting with someone turned up? What if you went someplace out of the ordinary to meet this person for whatever reason, yet you were on CCTV?
You give the police far too little credit. Every time you watch TV shows in which footage from a camera is shown, the british CCTV footage always shows the most extreme high-tech. In the US we don't have CCTV which will follow people around. We also don't have databases connected to them.
The UK is still ahead in CCTV technology, and finding ways to further intermesh it with various goals.
This is from a country who already rigorously monitors its citizens with CCTV everywhere they go. Perhaps the UK could be considered a testbed for how people react when their basic rights are subtlely chipped away. It's all in the name of safety and convenience.
The Ben Franklin Adage still applies, doubly so:
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. Nor, are they likely to end up with either."
People need to wake up and realize that they are slowly removing their own rights.
You don't understand how RFIDs work. They have a transmission range of less than 1 centimeter. They will NOT be embedded in the tread, so you'd need a reader right next to the bead in the sidewall.
How is an RFID in your tire an invasion of privacy? First, it's a serial number, period. Even IF the serial is associated with a VIN, still, how is it an invasion of privacy? How does this challenge your rights to privacy?
Oooh, someone is going to walk up to your car and KNOW what the serial number of the Michelin tire you bought is.
Seriously, I see this as GOOD. If there is an association of VIN to serial number then the police can track YOUR stolen car when the thieves strip it.
People need to get off the RFID kick. My CAT has an RFID. By itself it's nothing, but because that RFID serial is linked to my name in the issuer's database, I will get my cat back if he gets lost.
People need people need to understand RFID != privacy invasion.
I went to the company's website and searched as much as I could, and I could not find one lick of technical info. Their flash doesn't load up on Mozilla and when I used a winders box, the flash was very unpolished. If you go to the corp HTML part of the site they have a zip file with 3 press photos, Infosync posted one.
The photos all have retouched screens and it's clear that the phone in the pictures is simply a mockup. The hole for the USB jack at the bottom is empty and there is no SD port on the side. Also, there is an interesting texture to the case, almost like it was hand made and painted.
The major issues for me are no detailed specs and the fact that they list no pricing and the featureset is too unrealistic. If you go and actually look at all the phones with which they are comparing, they are all significantly larger. The reason is due to functionality. The spec they released for the battery was 1100mah, this is 50% more than the competing phones which are larger; how did they magically increase the power density? Why would Nokia settle for 750mah if these people can make a 1100mah battery?
For a company that is supposed to release a major telephone product, they are conspicously unrefined on the website, lacking in details, and rather ambitious with specs. Hell, they said they were only making 1000 units! That is a paltry number of units when you take into account that an importer in the UK has 40,000 Nokia 7650 phones (comparable) sitting in stock ready to ship to somewhere else in the world!
I smell vaporware and a BS job, they don't even have a press release on their website!
In response to your quotes I went and looked on Molex's site. Since we're talking about video ram here, I decided to look up the spec for the SGRAM JEDEC 144 SODIMM modules used on video cards.
The spec says that the contact resistance is 70 milliohms max, and at a test frequency of 100Khz the stray capacitance between pins is a max of 2 pF.
What this all boils down to is that it's really irrelevant.
All the communication lines of boths DIMMS (have 2 sitting in front of me) and SGRAM SODIMMs are loaded with 10 ohm resistor arrays. This means that any stray capacitance or resistance is overcome by the 10 ohm loading.
They are already doing high speed clocks to DIMMs, close to the speeds that video cards are doing on board.
The REAL crux is that it's A LOT cheaper to manufacture the board with the components already attached. Your footprint is smaller too.
Yeah, all modern fuel injected cars have something called LOS, Limited Output Strategy.
This basically boils down to a number of subsystems in the car that have a default operating mode. If no active control input is seen, the device defaults to a factory minimum specification.
I am primarily a Ford guy, so I'm very familiar with their EEC-IV (pre 1996) fuel injection.
In the EEC-IV the computer will pulse the fuel injectors with a fixed pulse width when it receives a signal from the distributor or DIS module. This is good enough to 'Limp' home.
The ignition has a similar strategy. Ford used the TFI-IV, DIS, and EDIS ignition systems which have a LOS mode. This is used for bumpstarting the car when the battery is dead. Basically the ignition systems will work completely standalone, like old school points/condenser ignitions. Ford chose 10 degrees of ignition advance as their baseline, which is active which checking the timing or when the ECU is whacked.
This was an interesting case. The description of how the agents lured the russian "hackers" to the US was beyond belief.
Michael was back at the office downloading data from their computers like mad while they took them to lunch.
The russians were very chatty, too chatty for their own good. IIRC they had something like 350 pages (an entire binder) of transcribed conversations with them. As is usual, the "hackers" were tooting their own horns.
I was called as a witness in the case to testify to data they had recovered and statements the russians had made. The russians had lied about the level of access they had. However, these people were very persistent, they spent a month or so just learning and tinkering trying to get a relatively small amount of data.
It's clear what their motives where though. They were stealing credit cards, setting up Ebay auctions and using proxy PayPal accounts to pay themselves for Ebay auctions they had setup themselves.
I got to learn how serious Paypal takes "hackers" and abuse. Both paypal and ebay (now the same) have dedicated professionals to tracking down "hackers" and fraud.
I realize this is a troll, but I really must reply. I'm impressed that you still hold close your illusions. It can only mean that you haven't been exposed to the greatness that is Sun. Just wait until your next Cluster Patch...
Gee, you KNOW when you've been doing your job, because they LAY YOU OFF! I love it, I'm looking forward to trying to find and fit in to another job. All the potential of a dead end job, whoopee!
I love working for Verio, they make my life complete.
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This sysadmin is getting the boot and it's not because we are losing money...it's THEM!
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Yahoo MegaSquirt Group This has the message archives, files, and links to MS related sites.
MegaSquirt FAQ This is the place that you should look for answers before sending to the list. If it hasn't been asked here, Lance is more than happy to add the Q/A to the FAQ. It's very well organized and will take a novice through the whole process.
Since Bruce and Al's site was already linked, I'll forego that link. The best place to start is the Yahoo group, since it really is the nexus.
Just a couple of quick bits. If you are planning on using GM TBI injectors, get some 2 ohm 25 watt ballast resistors FIRST.
Second, if you are planning on using a distributor for the tach signal, you are best off by using the hall sensor directly. A lot of VAG vehicles have reported noise problems on the tach signal.
These are really the only 2 things I'd want to caution about first.
All in all, the MegaSquirt is a good system for DIYers because it bypasses all of the complexity of factory systems. You can use it with most factory sensors and it performs great. One of the bread and butter applications is replacing CIS with EFI, many people have done it.
BTW, my engine is the 1991 CBR 600 F2 engine on the IT Runs! page.
I believe the 22Mbps cards are merely full duplex. You won't see any speed difference in normal downloads because you aren't needing full duplex. Get in an environment where you have multiple cards on the same channel and you'll see a difference. This is because the WIFI network is like an ethernet hub, everyone sees everyone else's traffic, so they contribute to the entire usage of the network.
SD has problems that wouldn't make it ideal for this purpose. SD is similar to MMC, but MMC is more versatile. MMC offers parallel and serial communication to the media. Although the top clock speed is 20 Mhz, this means that in serial mode you can get 20Mbps and in parallel, 20MBps. Generally speaking this isn't particularly fast. ST just came out with an 8Mbit SPI flash that can clock up to 25Mhz, so it only takes 42ms to read the entire thing. That's a pretty fast serial flash chip, most are fairly slow. Even the fast flash chips are still several times slower than SDRAM, writing to them is actually slower than a harddrive. The erase time is around 10ms, with 2ms program time, all for a single sector of flash. The sector size varies from part to part, but 256 bytes to 512 bytes isn't unheard of. Once an HDD seeks (8ms) and settles (4ms), it can read or write away at very high speeds, HDD overhead is nearly identical to flash overhead for write, but the bandwidth is much higher.
All that being said, a flash CF card is a good choice for embedded use.
BTW, those are the stock photography, nothing that the linked site doesn't have.
I'd really like to know why ThinkGeek is always the worst deal at geeky things. They are always way overpriced at most of the things they carry. A good example is this watch, the linked site lists it for $93, whereas ThinkGeek is selling it for $119, a $26 dollar premium. When you consider what USB drives and cheap citizen watches go for, you'll quickly realize that they are making a lot of money off this product. The linked site is still making good money, Thinkgeek is probably just making at least another 50% more.
It just bugs me that ThinkGeek has some cool stuff, but none of it is a bargain, especially when Fry's carries the same stuff for a lot less usually. Too bad.
You know, this whole 352x240 == VHS resolution is such a farse. First, NTSC signals are analog, which means there is virtually infinite horizontal resolution. It's well known that NTSC has 525 lines, which is 262.5 lines per field. Most VCRs are specced at 260lines of resolution, but because they don't have any concept of pixels, it's largely based on the quality of the unit. There are many factors that influence the quality of the recording. Honestly, 720x540 is the minimum acceptable digital analogue of the NTSC spec.
The biggest problem with the analog to digital conversion is that most units do not convert the interlaced input into a progressive format before recording. Because of this the effective resolution of the digital copy is much degraded. If you want a semi-reasonable dub, you need to perform progressive conversion before downsampling the resolution. You will notice that many PVRs do this, I know that my Replay does.
The other problem with encoding to digital is the loss of the interframe data. There are 21 lines of information that contains things like captions and program data. These are not preserved by the traditional conversion process. This is where the PVRs get it right again. They will store the data in the interframe area.
The bottom line is that 1GB per hour of video is the bare minimum quality. 3GB per hour is better, realtime is closer to 4.5GB per hour. You need about 5-6Mbps encoding rate in MPEG to get decent video. 9Mbps is what Superbit is IIRC.
I'll step off my soapbox now...
Well, you're already late. For Corps the due date is March 15th, not April 15th. For the Feds, go to the IRS website and get the fill-in PDF for the taxes. It's fairly simple and only takes a couple of hours to do. Basically you enter zeroes for most stuff. If you're in CA, you have to pay the Alternative Minimum Tax, which is an $800.00 kickback you pay to the state for having a corp. You pay AMT if you have less than $800.00 in taxes, otherwise you just pay your tax amount.
The federal form is 1120, the state form in 940 IIRC.
I too have a corp (S-corp) that made 0 income last year. You also had to file a tax return with the State board of equalization by 1/31 if you had a reseller's permit. If you have inventory in stock, it defers to the year you sell those goods.
You'll also get a query from the IRS on wages that were paid, and how much taxes you paid on that. You'll also get a query about principal stock interest in the company, if it changed from the prior filing year.
Season passes are just another name for Theme channels. I can tell the replay to record any show named "Law & Order" at any time, and it'll get Law & Order, Law & Order: SVU, and Law & Order: CI. I use this feature for half of my recordings because some stations move their content around a lot (like TNN).
I haven't a clue what a Wishlist is.
With any luck my 2 replays won't be obsoleted; I paid for the lifetime subscription, therefore I feel I'm owed the balance of the $200 back for each of them if they go under, not to mention the ability to "unlock" the machine to use with a third party channel guide.
So Tivo users will have the same functionality as Replay 4000+ users do? It's a damn shame that SonicBlue is in the toilet. With the exception of playing music, my 4580 does all the things Tivo just announced. What's even better is that the line protocol has already been hacked and I can watch recorded programs from any computer in the house with mplayer. Also, I can share with my buddy across the country if he ever gets a 4k series.
Truely a damn shame about Replay. Heck, I've been TCPdumping all comms with it since I heard so that I can disect how to emulate the replay server if it comes to it.
I bought one of those MSN Companion puters from Tiger direct a year ago. I signed up for the MSN service (free 6mo) to play with the puter before I nuked the OS. I signed up as "ipaqheat@msn.com". This is not an address that was published, as I have never used it. Within a week of signing up I had a SPAM in the mailbox. The way I see it, Microsoft had to sell my information to a spammer for that to happen. I hold them responsible for it. I've since canceled the account.
I volunteer to fix those uncomfortable Sisley garments, providing they are worn...
The LXG trailer upstaged the X2 trailer which immediately followed it. The LXG franchise looks to have learned from Xmen's mistakes.
I hope the movie doesn't disappoint. I'm probably gonna see both anyway.
Hehe, and he'll have 4 times the debt because he had to pay back all of those loans.
Most of the people I know that stayed in it for the long haul are ear deep in debt for 5 years after they are out of school. They have a fancy degree with a B in front of it and they live like the impoverished.
Okay, so the big cities. Look at it this way: The underground is a primary means of transportation in such cities. To that extent you can be tracked everywhere you go via CCTV.
The worst thing about CCTV *isn't* the fact there are cameras, it's that they have hours of footage stored away for long periods of time. If you were *seriously* in suspect by the police, they'd go and dig up weeks old and perhaps months old footage of you.
What if you were a citizen that had some undue interest (celebrities, financial types, etc) and some CCTV footage of you meeting with someone turned up? What if you went someplace out of the ordinary to meet this person for whatever reason, yet you were on CCTV?
You give the police far too little credit. Every time you watch TV shows in which footage from a camera is shown, the british CCTV footage always shows the most extreme high-tech. In the US we don't have CCTV which will follow people around. We also don't have databases connected to them.
The UK is still ahead in CCTV technology, and finding ways to further intermesh it with various goals.
This is from a country who already rigorously monitors its citizens with CCTV everywhere they go. Perhaps the UK could be considered a testbed for how people react when their basic rights are subtlely chipped away. It's all in the name of safety and convenience.
The Ben Franklin Adage still applies, doubly so:
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty or safety. Nor, are they likely to end up with either."
People need to wake up and realize that they are slowly removing their own rights.
"AIC has been a neat site for movies, it'll be interesting to see how well their expertise extends to games."
And Harry Knuckles is his manwhore master.
Yeah, but those have large patch antennas built into them. Like the FastPath
cards and such.
You don't understand how RFIDs work. They have a transmission range of less than
1 centimeter. They will NOT be embedded in the tread, so you'd need a reader
right next to the bead in the sidewall.
The "threat" is minimal.
How is an RFID in your tire an invasion of privacy? First, it's a serial number, period. Even IF the serial is associated with a VIN, still, how is it an invasion of privacy? How does this challenge your rights to privacy?
Oooh, someone is going to walk up to your car and KNOW what the serial number of the Michelin tire you bought is.
Seriously, I see this as GOOD. If there is an association of VIN to serial number then the police can track YOUR stolen car when the thieves strip it.
People need to get off the RFID kick. My CAT has an RFID. By itself it's nothing, but because that RFID serial is linked to my name in the issuer's database, I will get my cat back if he gets lost.
People need people need to understand RFID != privacy invasion.
I went to the company's website and searched as much as I could, and I
could not find one lick of technical info. Their flash doesn't load up on
Mozilla and when I used a winders box, the flash was very unpolished. If you
go to the corp HTML part of the site they have a zip file with 3 press photos,
Infosync posted one.
The photos all have retouched screens and it's clear that the phone in the
pictures is simply a mockup. The hole for the USB jack at the bottom is empty
and there is no SD port on the side. Also, there is an interesting texture
to the case, almost like it was hand made and painted.
The major issues for me are no detailed specs and the fact that they list no
pricing and the featureset is too unrealistic. If you go and actually look
at all the phones with which they are comparing, they are all significantly
larger. The reason is due to functionality. The spec they released for the
battery was 1100mah, this is 50% more than the competing phones which are
larger; how did they magically increase the power density? Why would Nokia
settle for 750mah if these people can make a 1100mah battery?
For a company that is supposed to release a major telephone product, they are
conspicously unrefined on the website, lacking in details, and rather ambitious
with specs. Hell, they said they were only making 1000 units! That is a
paltry number of units when you take into account that an importer in the UK
has 40,000 Nokia 7650 phones (comparable) sitting in stock ready to ship
to somewhere else in the world!
I smell vaporware and a BS job, they don't even have a press release on their
website!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =1387597606
In response to your quotes I went and looked on Molex's site. Since we're talking about video ram here, I decided to look up the spec for the SGRAM JEDEC 144 SODIMM modules used on video cards.
The spec says that the contact resistance is 70 milliohms max, and at a test frequency of 100Khz the stray capacitance between pins is a max of 2 pF.
What this all boils down to is that it's really irrelevant.
All the communication lines of boths DIMMS (have 2 sitting in front of me) and SGRAM SODIMMs are loaded with 10 ohm resistor arrays. This means that any stray capacitance or resistance is overcome by the 10 ohm loading.
They are already doing high speed clocks to DIMMs, close to the speeds that video cards are doing on board.
The REAL crux is that it's A LOT cheaper to manufacture the board with the components already attached. Your footprint is smaller too.
Refer to these documents for further information:
JEDEC SGRAM 144PIN SODIMM video ram specification
Molex SGRAM socket specification
Yeah, all modern fuel injected cars have something called LOS, Limited Output Strategy.
This basically boils down to a number of subsystems in the car that have a default operating mode. If no active control input is seen, the device defaults to a factory minimum specification.
I am primarily a Ford guy, so I'm very familiar with their EEC-IV (pre 1996) fuel injection.
In the EEC-IV the computer will pulse the fuel injectors with a fixed pulse width when it receives a signal from the distributor or DIS module. This is good enough to 'Limp' home.
The ignition has a similar strategy. Ford used the TFI-IV, DIS, and EDIS ignition systems which have a LOS mode. This is used for bumpstarting the car when the battery is dead. Basically the ignition systems will work completely standalone, like old school points/condenser ignitions. Ford chose 10 degrees of ignition advance as their baseline, which is active which checking the timing or when the ECU is whacked.
This was an interesting case. The description of how the agents lured the russian "hackers" to the US was beyond belief.
Michael was back at the office downloading data from their computers like mad while they took them to lunch.
The russians were very chatty, too chatty for their own good. IIRC they had something like 350 pages (an entire binder) of transcribed conversations with them. As is usual, the "hackers" were tooting their own horns.
I was called as a witness in the case to testify to data they had recovered and statements the russians had made. The russians had lied about the level of access they had. However, these people were very persistent, they spent a month or so just learning and tinkering trying to get a relatively small amount of data.
It's clear what their motives where though. They were stealing credit cards, setting up Ebay auctions and using proxy PayPal accounts to pay themselves for Ebay auctions they had setup themselves.
I got to learn how serious Paypal takes "hackers" and abuse. Both paypal and ebay (now the same) have dedicated professionals to tracking down "hackers" and fraud.
I realize this is a troll, but I really must reply. I'm impressed that you still hold close your illusions. It can only mean that you haven't been exposed to the greatness that is Sun. Just wait until your next Cluster Patch...
Gee, you KNOW when you've been doing your job, because they LAY YOU OFF! I love it, I'm looking forward to trying to find and fit in to another job. All the potential of a dead end job, whoopee!
I love working for Verio, they make my life complete.
S c
r sm
a
a
This sysadmin is getting the boot and it's not because we are losing money...it's THEM!