Chilling effect on terrorists? Hmm, any terrorist who hasn't since 1998 heard of VAI is behind the times. I am sure that the smarter ones recruit online but cull in person, and probably do so after layer upon layer of vetting and looking over the shoulder. I am thinking that a number of these recruits are diversionary sacrificial lambs to weed out the VAI-type shadows...
Segue Chilling effect on music media purchase?
Hmm, I wonder if the RIAA and others chasing illicit distribution of music and video have been using this suite
Click on "Telephone Tolls" and "Businesses", and then let your imagination run a bit. Not wildly, but just a little. Now you can imagine:
- Colleges - College IPs - File Sharing Sites - FTP tools - Major Music Store locations - Major labels - "Hot" artists - ISPs with choked/strained bandwitch - Steganography - "Call home" bots in music stream tools
Pretty soon, you can see these guys not just "making examples of a few file sharing students". Eventually, if not already, they'll be able to make a higher profit on draining non-graduating students. -------- DC and VA are so close that I began wondering if VAI could have stood for Virginia Informatics or something of "cute spin" on the geography...
Also, HOW can they trademark "DIG", when there is a widely-used "dig" tool in *Nix that lets you crudely find out things about IP addresses? I guess there's a slight difference of approach?
============ See this ===========
About Visual Analytics
Founded in 1998, Visual Analytics Inc. (VAI) is a privately-held company, based in the Washington, DC metropolitan area, focused on Superior Pattern Discovery and Data Sharing Solutions. VAI serves markets requiring sophisticated data sharing and high-end analytics. VAI has created a suite of tools, collectively called "The Data Clarity Suite," based on the VisuaLinks® and Digital Information Gateway (DIG) technologies that are used to search, structure, and present data for analysis and discovery. More information on VAI can be found at www.visualanalytics.com.
NOW, the home page is different. Seems to parallel what is going on today. They can show relationships between real estate money flows and criminal nefarios. If you try to defraud, they'll help find your bod...
See their two headlines:
May 22, 2006
Can Data Mining Catch Terrorists?
March 21, 2006
When money moves
Despite the risks of government invasive probing, the tools look pretty neat. But, any deep, far-ranging database with good charting tools and attach points for human interaction can do this. OTOH, I would NOT be surprised if this company were part of "The Company"....
(Sales could be enlar... umm enhanced if the handles are sufficiently reshaped. Imagine jacking it up to 52-penta-tera-throbba bytes. It won't fit in the back pocket... a backback might be sufficient...And it'll need external power load at that size...)
to make a tool to trash the cookies. Send back spurious, useless, marketer-crashing rubbish that calls their ENTIRE database into question. FUCKEM. With the exception of the copyright works of others, the data on MY computer is MINE. EVEN the fucking so-called copyright-protected cookies. If they generate cookie data with MY surfing habits, and I'm not getting PAID by them to use my info, then I will continue to trash, delete, or block cookies and their entire fucking domains.
I REGULARLY look at who is behind ANY new IP address, and I DO block entire domains. I don't know how many INDIVIDUALS have over 200 sites on their blacklist, but I do. When doubledick (among others), for instance, gets cute and scarfs up chunks if in-between addresses in random domains, I block the sub-domain if it's interfering TOO much with my surfing. But, in battle against some of these fucks, I DO tolerate 10-60 second page loads. I don't block EVERY company out there, just the big, fat-footed ones whom I suspect of mass-selling surfing information.
Thank YOU LINUX/OS devs and W3C: You helped me not have to surf with with ms crap at home.
BTW, IS THERE a cookie-corruption tool that will decrypt them so I can see what it is trying to do? Is there a way to defeat any checksums so that I can insert crap or taint the call-back numbers in the cookies? This would be so I can misdirect them and be part of a cookie-trashing movement. I'm not looking to gain unauthorized ACCESS, I want to DEAUTHORIZED and DESTROY most of the cookies. Not the ones to my e-mail providers, just the ones to sites I don't have any relationships with. I'm SICK of those who say cookies are harmless. Next, we need to root out those 1x1 pixels and taint them, too. Then the crawlers stuff, and whatever else that comes along.
""Dew-doo-dew... We're sorry-- the number you have called: "ex-ex-ex, ex-ex-ex, ex-ex-ex-ex" is too close to "sex" and has been changed or is no longer in service. Please hang up, check your number, and dial your call again... If you are STILL having problems, you may be residing in or attempting to call the wrong country."
And, boy do I really hope that Google springs forth with "Googbay" or something in the event that ms really does end up owning e-Bay.
We just CAN'T have ms owning e-Bay. It just doesn't seem right. They've gotten their claws into real estate, gaming, HR, and so many other areas just to create hegemony and impress wall street and maybe madison avenue with productization of so many things.
Now, we need Google more than EVER to act as a cofferdam against the gorging, all-devouring ms machine...
Well, maybe he likes taking "ballmer's balm" on all the "chin" over and over, year after year... as if it's a first time.
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Anybody buying a used laptop should go and buy a NEW hard disk. They're fairly cheap from some surplus computer stores.
It's possible to buy 10 and 20 GB disks fairly easily, at reasonable prices, and, and, the best part is not having to worry about whether or how many times the l/t was dropped and how long it'll be before the disk dies, nevermind the prediction software that may be (Linux) provided.
Best of all, by having a NEW rather than a used disk is the relative unlikelihood of receiving a disk that has "call back to me" and lowjack and other stuff on it. The people buying laptops sometimes are not very savvy, and just start using them without cleaning out the registry, deleting macros, uninstalling the existing communications/surfing software....
Unless the stores get hammered by manufacturers, new but reasonably cheap, spacious, reliable disks await the owner of a used laptop (assuming the laptop is not eons old and that the BIOS can cope with the drive capacity....).
And, so... Are the fortunate ones to be considered tendon, grissel, cartilage, nerve endings, bone? I guess a company can never have "too much nerve". I wonder what is the version of
Strike the corporate tendon and cartilage and they will swagger like the zombies in Return of the Living Dead that shouted "LIVE BRAINS", "MORE BRAINS"...
(I never liked cartilage in my food, either, nor the veins in shrimp and chicken, for that matter..)
What I want to know is does the TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) -- in addition to sending electronic signals between like-equipped aircraft-- send audio and visual information on the MFDs so the pilots can SEE what is going on.
They need collision-avoidance like on ships, where we (um, the conning officer, navigation team and the CIC crew) would talk in terms of CPA-- Closet Point of Approach. (Like someone mentioned in another thread, collision (if the auto pilots are enabled on these ships) would be averted. But, nothing is perfect, and for many years, ships so-equipped still sailed with the crew in manual control and a/p disengaged or in some non-controlling mode.)
Also, if this TCAS is really enhanced, it could help save fuel AND condense the airspace. Crews would not have to react with drastic responses that call for fuel-wasting dives or climbs. Also, the increase of air traffic in areas where there are no towers (like, over big blue oceans and large deserted land masses) but traffic is dense due to it being a common/shared route means planes might fly more like cells in a body or ants on a trail, minus the actual contact and excessive weaving. As long as the planes keep smooth flight, the pilots could be systems monitors, like they are on so many of the trains (like in some countries subway transit systems).
Of course, though, if the designers keep automating the systems or dumbing them down in some ways, it could be possible for almost anyone with extensive simulator (hydraulic or PC or a combo of both) to fly a plane -- until it's time to land... TO/Landing can be fatefull by the inexperience who won't have the practice with g forces.
Maybe they DON'T for the most part (until it starts to HURT them....), but maybe this is tit-for-tat as regards the recent lame-assed US assault on Lenovo.
The US arms of government and maybe even a few tech companies worried about losing business to Lenovo. When it was IBM they competed with, it would have probably been unpatriotic to bash IBM. It CERtainly would have been economical suicide, for IBM could have brough all resources to bear against such companies.
But, with it being Lenovo, and with all the patriotism/nationalism drivel sloshing around the planet, it's easy to blame or accuse a Chinese laptop company of being a threat to US national security.
Well, now Lenovo, and other Chinese tech companies, can via the Chinese government make noise through tech channels. At least they're doing it in the right channels, or so it seems.
So, if the US can ban or cause wrinkles for Lenovo and other aspiring companies (particularly when the hardware is made mostly in the US and in Mexico) trying to sell in and outside the US, then it's fair game for China to call the standards into question. Just enough to make people look up and question whether the IEEE has some actual or tenuous link to US NSA hunger for backdoors and data traps...
Unfounded or not, it wouldn't hurt to look for and block those traps. If they're found to exist, then China can cause a majjjoooorrrr storm without expending too many resources at the national level (as opposed to the business level).
They can worry about getting the party dates later-- for now, they've "got the Midas touch"... they'll be singin' and struttin' and blasting that song, humming it in lectures, and charging door fees to cover tuition or beer money (or whatever...)...
OK, seems I have a power-wielding personal demon following and whacking my ass. KEEP you VULCAN hands off ME.
This person seems to be devoid of a sense of humor. My post was in the spirit of
"First Post-Patent Pending" by PFI_Optix on the topic of "USPTO Rules Fogent JPEG Patent Invalid" (for some reason the reference is not appearing, but it was, as far as I remember, related to the USPTO article.)
JEEEZ,/., you need a way to whack god-power-wielders who have no sense of humor. One way to do this would be to find the more even-minded modders of note and send them 10-20 comments per day to be modded or vetoed by ham-fisted modders. This way, the people with a sense of humor can get the ones like mine instead of some VULCAN bitter over lack of Ponn Far getting my comments.
"It appears that the author is just a firewall admin who's offended that ssh can be used to thwart his precious acls, and invested in giving the tool a bad name."
Remember the/. stories that started like, "We're setting up a company and would like to know how you would do xyz with "linux" vs Windows, how long you've been using "linux", how you got approval for it, and how long you have successfully maintained security with the limited headcount you have..." that (if you are cynical) sound like big-company-paid-for pieces meant to flush out Unix/Linux-leaning companies that "ought" to be on ms/windows-related stuff.
Just from the "in unix, everything is a file...." I started seeing big money funding this article. I could be wrong, though...
I wonder if/. would agree to a reader-demanded aversion to corporate-paid slipstream submissions... (opps, a ladder and mop bucket are being hurled my way...(instead of conference room executive chairs)...)
mshaft couldn't innovate their way out of a paper bag.
I mean, look at it: rather than create or improve a home-built portal to online buying, they go and BUY up one, and then obtain ALL the patents eBay obtained (whether these are ALL legit or who many are illegit is not my point), and then we ALL get to see our personal details, sales activities and more in mshaft's warchest.
I REALLY hot the anti-trust units resoundingly "nay" this. I'm pretty sure the EU will condemn it and not let it fly. If the EU unit forbids it in the EU, then I'll run my ads through the EU units and hope they still show up in the US and elsewhere...
The US has already gotten (current) "allies" --Japan in particular-- to "get in line..." with fingerprinting inbound visitors, even those just passing through a country and not requiring a debarkation.
Now, if the DNA database gets run by the senate/Romans, the Congress (opposite of PROGress) and others, then the US will say, "We need to ensure that ALL people traveling by plane, train, cruise liner... hell, even by YACHT for that matter, has to supply a DNA sample to the Customs, Immigration, DOT, and other agencies or to a common escrow (government-appointed/bid-awarded) entity.
I suppose it's a secret pathway to genealogy and "gene pool cleanup" for future purposes...
Next up: "Cops and Teachers are required to provide DNA...even BEFORE being sworn in" (Yep, in case you didn't know, teachers have to take an oath the the prez....Yep, IN the USA)
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want to own Elves...
When they peter out, they won't even have enough money to make a hostile bid for Keebler
Chilling effect on terrorists? Hmm, any terrorist who hasn't since 1998 heard of VAI is behind the times. I am sure that the smarter ones recruit online but cull in person, and probably do so after layer upon layer of vetting and looking over the shoulder. I am thinking that a number of these recruits are diversionary sacrificial lambs to weed out the VAI-type shadows...
Segue
Chilling effect on music media purchase?
Hmm, I wonder if the RIAA and others chasing illicit distribution of music and video have been using this suite
Click on "Telephone Tolls" and "Businesses", and then let your imagination run a bit. Not wildly, but just a little. Now you can imagine:
- Colleges
- College IPs
- File Sharing Sites
- FTP tools
- Major Music Store locations
- Major labels
- "Hot" artists
- ISPs with choked/strained bandwitch
- Steganography
- "Call home" bots in music stream tools
Pretty soon, you can see these guys not just "making examples of a few file sharing students". Eventually, if not already, they'll be able to make a higher profit on draining non-graduating students.
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DC and VA are so close that I began wondering if VAI could have stood for Virginia Informatics or something of "cute spin" on the geography...
Also, HOW can they trademark "DIG", when there is a widely-used "dig" tool in *Nix that lets you crudely find out things about IP addresses? I guess there's a slight difference of approach?
============ See this ===========
About Visual Analytics
Founded in 1998, Visual Analytics Inc. (VAI) is a privately-held company, based in the Washington, DC metropolitan area, focused on Superior Pattern Discovery and Data Sharing Solutions. VAI serves markets requiring sophisticated data sharing and high-end analytics. VAI has created a suite of tools, collectively called "The Data Clarity Suite," based on the VisuaLinks® and Digital Information Gateway (DIG) technologies that are used to search, structure, and present data for analysis and discovery. More information on VAI can be found at www.visualanalytics.com.
If Visual Analytics is selling stock or shares or interests, and if you have money, you'd better get in while the gettin's cheap.
They were mentioned in Slash back in March by ONE poster...
http://www.visualanalytics.com/
NOW, the home page is different. Seems to parallel what is going on today. They can show relationships between real estate money flows and criminal nefarios. If you try to defraud, they'll help find your bod...
See their two headlines:
May 22, 2006
Can Data Mining Catch Terrorists?
March 21, 2006
When money moves
Despite the risks of government invasive probing, the tools look pretty neat. But, any deep, far-ranging database with good charting tools and attach points for human interaction can do this. OTOH, I would NOT be surprised if this company were part of "The Company"....
were THESE Trojans ribbed for YOUR pleasure?
(Sales could be enlar... umm enhanced if the handles are sufficiently reshaped. Imagine jacking it up to 52-penta-tera-throbba bytes. It won't fit in the back pocket... a backback might be sufficient...And it'll need external power load at that size...)
to make a tool to trash the cookies. Send back spurious, useless, marketer-crashing rubbish that calls their ENTIRE database into question. FUCKEM. With the exception of the copyright works of others, the data on MY computer is MINE. EVEN the fucking so-called copyright-protected cookies. If they generate cookie data with MY surfing habits, and I'm not getting PAID by them to use my info, then I will continue to trash, delete, or block cookies and their entire fucking domains.
I REGULARLY look at who is behind ANY new IP address, and I DO block entire domains. I don't know how many INDIVIDUALS have over 200 sites on their blacklist, but I do. When doubledick (among others), for instance, gets cute and scarfs up chunks if in-between addresses in random domains, I block the sub-domain if it's interfering TOO much with my surfing. But, in battle against some of these fucks, I DO tolerate 10-60 second page loads. I don't block EVERY company out there, just the big, fat-footed ones whom I suspect of mass-selling surfing information.
Thank YOU LINUX/OS devs and W3C: You helped me not have to surf with with ms crap at home.
BTW, IS THERE a cookie-corruption tool that will decrypt them so I can see what it is trying to do? Is there a way to defeat any checksums so that I can insert crap or taint the call-back numbers in the cookies? This would be so I can misdirect them and be part of a cookie-trashing movement. I'm not looking to gain unauthorized ACCESS, I want to DEAUTHORIZED and DESTROY most of the cookies. Not the ones to my e-mail providers, just the ones to sites I don't have any relationships with. I'm SICK of those who say cookies are harmless. Next, we need to root out those 1x1 pixels and taint them, too. Then the crawlers stuff, and whatever else that comes along.
""Dew-doo-dew... We're sorry-- the number you have called: "ex-ex-ex, ex-ex-ex, ex-ex-ex-ex" is too close to "sex" and has been changed or is no longer in service. Please hang up, check your number, and dial your call again... If you are STILL having problems, you may be residing in or attempting to call the wrong country."
And, boy do I really hope that Google springs forth with "Googbay" or something in the event that ms really does end up owning e-Bay.
We just CAN'T have ms owning e-Bay. It just doesn't seem right. They've gotten their claws into real estate, gaming, HR, and so many other areas just to create hegemony and impress wall street and maybe madison avenue with productization of so many things.
Now, we need Google more than EVER to act as a cofferdam against the gorging, all-devouring ms machine...
Or, so say I...
Well, maybe he likes taking "ballmer's balm" on all the "chin" over and over, year after year... as if it's a first time.
Anybody buying a used laptop should go and buy a NEW hard disk. They're fairly cheap from some surplus computer stores.
It's possible to buy 10 and 20 GB disks fairly easily, at reasonable prices, and, and, the best part is not having to worry about whether or how many times the l/t was dropped and how long it'll be before the disk dies, nevermind the prediction software that may be (Linux) provided.
Best of all, by having a NEW rather than a used disk is the relative unlikelihood of receiving a disk that has "call back to me" and lowjack and other stuff on it. The people buying laptops sometimes are not very savvy, and just start using them without cleaning out the registry, deleting macros, uninstalling the existing communications/surfing software....
Unless the stores get hammered by manufacturers, new but reasonably cheap, spacious, reliable disks await the owner of a used laptop (assuming the laptop is not eons old and that the BIOS can cope with the drive capacity....).
I currently wipe with the stuff from Kirkland. It's pretty good at wiping out the Klingons... but it's not as smooth as Tribbles...
(travels further back in time to avoid the Federation Temporal Commission...)
And, so ... Are the fortunate ones to be considered tendon, grissel, cartilage, nerve endings, bone? I guess a company can never have "too much nerve". I wonder what is the version of
--a "corporate root canal"
-- corporate bone marrow extraction
-- corporate cartilage snipping
-- corporate tendonits
Strike the corporate tendon and cartilage and they will swagger like the zombies in Return of the Living Dead that shouted "LIVE BRAINS", "MORE BRAINS"...
(I never liked cartilage in my food, either, nor the veins in shrimp and chicken, for that matter..)
Unless he's gettin' banged by Saddam....
S.H. "C'mon Satan, let's fuck..."
Satan: "All you ever wanna do is fuck. You don't really love me...."
Oh, you were talking about DANcing, hot LAYing...
"As far as I am concerned, ATI is evil."
Welcome, AMDATI. Or, is it "AMDEVIL"?
Or, if they do it backwars, Itamada, or Livedma.
What I want to know is does the TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) -- in addition to sending electronic signals between like-equipped aircraft-- send audio and visual information on the MFDs so the pilots can SEE what is going on.
They need collision-avoidance like on ships, where we (um, the conning officer, navigation team and the CIC crew) would talk in terms of CPA-- Closet Point of Approach. (Like someone mentioned in another thread, collision (if the auto pilots are enabled on these ships) would be averted. But, nothing is perfect, and for many years, ships so-equipped still sailed with the crew in manual control and a/p disengaged or in some non-controlling mode.)
Also, if this TCAS is really enhanced, it could help save fuel AND condense the airspace. Crews would not have to react with drastic responses that call for fuel-wasting dives or climbs. Also, the increase of air traffic in areas where there are no towers (like, over big blue oceans and large deserted land masses) but traffic is dense due to it being a common/shared route means planes might fly more like cells in a body or ants on a trail, minus the actual contact and excessive weaving. As long as the planes keep smooth flight, the pilots could be systems monitors, like they are on so many of the trains (like in some countries subway transit systems).
Of course, though, if the designers keep automating the systems or dumbing them down in some ways, it could be possible for almost anyone with extensive simulator (hydraulic or PC or a combo of both) to fly a plane -- until it's time to land... TO/Landing can be fatefull by the inexperience who won't have the practice with g forces.
Maybe they DON'T for the most part (until it starts to HURT them....), but maybe this is tit-for-tat as regards the recent lame-assed US assault on Lenovo.
The US arms of government and maybe even a few tech companies worried about losing business to Lenovo. When it was IBM they competed with, it would have probably been unpatriotic to bash IBM. It CERtainly would have been economical suicide, for IBM could have brough all resources to bear against such companies.
But, with it being Lenovo, and with all the patriotism/nationalism drivel sloshing around the planet, it's easy to blame or accuse a Chinese laptop company of being a threat to US national security.
Well, now Lenovo, and other Chinese tech companies, can via the Chinese government make noise through tech channels. At least they're doing it in the right channels, or so it seems.
So, if the US can ban or cause wrinkles for Lenovo and other aspiring companies (particularly when the hardware is made mostly in the US and in Mexico) trying to sell in and outside the US, then it's fair game for China to call the standards into question. Just enough to make people look up and question whether the IEEE has some actual or tenuous link to US NSA hunger for backdoors and data traps...
Unfounded or not, it wouldn't hurt to look for and block those traps. If they're found to exist, then China can cause a majjjoooorrrr storm without expending too many resources at the national level (as opposed to the business level).
They can worry about getting the party dates later-- for now, they've "got the Midas touch"... they'll be singin' and struttin' and blasting that song, humming it in lectures, and charging door fees to cover tuition or beer money (or whatever...)...
Hopefully this doesn't get bitch-slapped as "off-topic"...
Maybe only NOW it's just become commercially viable to use lasers instead for data acquisition from subjects?
I suppose centrifuges leave the subjects somewhat flattened, deflated. After spin cycle You can't wring out much more information.
But, with the new and improved laser light show, it can be quite a fright, and as enlightening as a lightning show. Or, is that "laser light show"?
Order yours from dwon udner, at +61 2332......
OK, seems I have a power-wielding personal demon following and whacking my ass. KEEP you VULCAN hands off ME.
/., you need a way to whack god-power-wielders who have no sense of humor. One way to do this would be to find the more even-minded modders of note and send them 10-20 comments per day to be modded or vetoed by ham-fisted modders. This way, the people with a sense of humor can get the ones like mine instead of some VULCAN bitter over lack of Ponn Far getting my comments.
This person seems to be devoid of a sense of humor. My post was in the spirit of
"First Post-Patent Pending" by PFI_Optix on the topic of "USPTO Rules Fogent JPEG Patent Invalid" (for some reason the reference is not appearing, but it was, as far as I remember, related to the USPTO article.)
JEEEZ,
From your sig file:
"If only we could make stupidity more painful..."
to my sig file:
"If only we could make poopidity more stainful..."
Didn't you KNOW???!!! /. is a DARPA project. They story is a deception piece meant to cull the best of the best among the ./ (yep, ./) crowd on /.
You will be recruited shortly. Your fate, should you chose not to accept recruitment, is to see your surfing logs forwarded to your employer...
Not to be a grammuhr nahzi...
but I suppose you meant "seamlessly" and not a form of "un-seemingly"... it's not entirely unpossible, u kown... no?
"It appears that the author is just a firewall admin who's offended that ssh can be used to thwart his precious acls, and invested in giving the tool a bad name."
/. stories that started like, "We're setting up a company and would like to know how you would do xyz with "linux" vs Windows, how long you've been using "linux", how you got approval for it, and how long you have successfully maintained security with the limited headcount you have..." that (if you are cynical) sound like big-company-paid-for pieces meant to flush out Unix/Linux-leaning companies that "ought" to be on ms/windows-related stuff.
/. would agree to a reader-demanded aversion to corporate-paid slipstream submissions... (opps, a ladder and mop bucket are being hurled my way...(instead of conference room executive chairs)...)
Remember the
Just from the "in unix, everything is a file...." I started seeing big money funding this article. I could be wrong, though...
I wonder if
mshaft couldn't innovate their way out of a paper bag.
I mean, look at it: rather than create or improve a home-built portal to online buying, they go and BUY up one, and then obtain ALL the patents eBay obtained (whether these are ALL legit or who many are illegit is not my point), and then we ALL get to see our personal details, sales activities and more in mshaft's warchest.
I REALLY hot the anti-trust units resoundingly "nay" this. I'm pretty sure the EU will condemn it and not let it fly. If the EU unit forbids it in the EU, then I'll run my ads through the EU units and hope they still show up in the US and elsewhere...
effemmess
screen...
Think "Smoke Screen".)
The US has already gotten (current) "allies" --Japan in particular-- to "get in line..." with fingerprinting inbound visitors, even those just passing through a country and not requiring a debarkation.
Now, if the DNA database gets run by the senate/Romans, the Congress (opposite of PROGress) and others, then the US will say, "We need to ensure that ALL people traveling by plane, train, cruise liner... hell, even by YACHT for that matter, has to supply a DNA sample to the Customs, Immigration, DOT, and other agencies or to a common escrow (government-appointed/bid-awarded) entity.
I suppose it's a secret pathway to genealogy and "gene pool cleanup" for future purposes...
Next up: "Cops and Teachers are required to provide DNA...even BEFORE being sworn in" (Yep, in case you didn't know, teachers have to take an oath the the prez....Yep, IN the USA)
Second Post! (Awaiting extra-credit and participation credits....)
(Maybe I'll get extra credits?...)