Nice attempt at a straw man, but there's so many movies and quite a large cache of classic literature and plays that involve child abuse in some form or another that you just fall flat.
It's very obvious that there is a difference between "videos of child abuse" and movies that contain abuse of a child. But hey, have fun banning Hanzel and Gretel. There's clearly no artistic merit to that story. Or Little Red Riding Hood.
And Australians were forbidden Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 until 2006. You didn't get to see the actual Romero cut of Dawn of the Dead until 1980. 2004 was the first time Australians could watch the 1971 Wes Craven flick, Last House on the Left. L4D2 will be / was changed so as to get rated. If they didn't tone down some of the gore, Australia would be SOL.
All you've really done is point out that the Australian censorship board is, at best, inconsistent. And for the record, the Kill Bill you see in Australia is about 5 minutes shorter than what we got to see here in the states.
So hey, sure, congrats, you get to see some of the same stuff that the rest of the civilized world can.. except minus the parts that your government decides are just TOO MUCH for delicate Australian sensibilities.
ps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole read it, understand it, don't go spouting your mouth off about stupid shit without considering the possibility that someone could be exaggerating for dramatic effect ever again. Especially when they're right.
And then it comes out on DVD with the unrated version with all those extras included.
Meanwhile in Australia, even if there was a theater that would show an NC-17 (equiv.) movie, it would never happen because their government has decided that the Australian people are too big of pussies to handle anything remotely as scary and shocking as profane language and dead bodies. Their words, not mine.. more specifically, their actions, which are LOUDER than words.
There is a very large difference between "We don't carry that kind of thing" and "We CAN'T carry that kind of thing". The former means you just need to find a store that caters not to Joe Schmoe and the Averages but to truly weird, disturbing fucks like yourself, with a taste for bizarre and socially unacceptable forms of entertainment. The former means those stores exist. The latter? You're just fucked. Go watch some My Little Pony before they ban that for overt sexuality, too.
There's nothing stopping you here in America from making an NC-17 film. Your ability to profit off it may suffer from the rating.. but if you truly think the movie has merit outside being a vehicle to bring you large quantities of money, you're free to release it as NC-17. Nobody is stopping you, unlike Australia, where it's pretty clear. Remove that icky stuff from your movie, or GTFO.
Awesome! Freedom of expression of ONLY THINGS YOU FUCKING LIKE!
Wait! That's not freedom of expression at all! OH SHIT, I'M BEING ARRESTED, DISSENSION IS UNRATED SPEECH NOT PERMITTED!
Yeah, your ideas of freedom and censorship are all screwy and wrong, but hey, you for one will actually be welcoming our fascist authoritarian overlords without being sarcastic about it. So.. yay for that, right?
(freedom from being offended by the words or beliefs of another: one of the dumbest fucking ideas in the history of humanity. and I am aware that "chopping one's genitals off" is also an idea in the history of humanity, and I'm saying this ludicrous pro-censorship stance is even fucking dumber and less thought-through.)
So fuck you, Mr. Pro-Censorship, Fuck You and your Fucking Redefinitions of Words. "lols well see censorship isnt restrictive, it actually sets you free, you're free to be restricted from ever seeing the things we don't want you to!"... yeah, no, get your damn dirty hands off my language.
They don't throw you out because you're counting cards.
They just... throw you out. Which, yes, is often because someone's been causing some kind of trouble, and sometimes, that's counting cards, but it's their casino and so long as they're not throwing people out based on any protected status (race, gender, creed*, etc), they're in the clear to throw someone out. No reason is OK, good reason is OK, but prejudiced reasons are bad.
*i may be wrong, but there's probably an exception for the band creed, allowing their ejection from the premises at-will. just sayin'.
A monopoly on cars, perhaps, but not a transportation monopoly. And a monopoly isn't necessarily illegal, either. Patents guarantee a monopoly on something for a certain length of time. Some companies might make a product that no other company wishes to -- not through any anti-competitive actions, just because they're the only ones who make something. I believe there's only one company in America that makes Limburger cheese. That's not because they're stopping anyone else from making it, it's because the market only has room for one company.
None of that makes a monopoly. A large amount of tires are made for cars, most people only drive cars, some roads only fully work with cars, and car makers actively encourage that. Because travel by boat is a small, niche market. It's not that car makers force the boat makers out of the market, it's that the boat makers are not making the most popular and useful product.
And then there's the people who travel by stilts. I hear there's still a fair bit of compatibility problems both with roads and waterways, but you can always customize your stilts to work properly!
Steam began as a way to distribute Valve software. It worked, other people wanted in. End of story. No antitrust. There actually ARE several companies with a front end similar to Steam, but they all came later, and haven't had as many or as big of titles as Valve has had to wedge their foot in the door.
More competition would be great, obviously. Lack of competition (which isn't precisely true, anyway) is not antitrust, it's that nobody came up with something like Steam before Valve (at least not in a way that was successful). Not a matter of monopoly, just a matter of being the biggest kid on the block. A bit like iTunes, except at its head is a big ol' fat guy rather than the hipster deity.
I'm talking about the massive debt Obama's incurred under the economic bailout.
Feel free to wait and blame it on the next republican president if you wish, though. Bush may have hit the economy with his car, but Obama came up and said he could end its suffering. And did. He killed it. All that money to all those companies and it accomplished nothing.
... on one hand I'm pretty sure you made that up, but on the other hand I really wouldn't put it past our media to ask that question.. and if the latter is the case I actually applaud the obamas for that style of STFU.
What you are saying, then, is that affirmative action laws are actually detrimental to your success. I don't think I'm misinterpreting that. It IS true, it's just government-mandated favoritism. People being what they are, often chafe at parental control, and will try and do exactly as little as they can if they can to comply without drawing punishment.
For the record I know qualified white folk who have not been given jobs so that minority quotas could be filled by unqualified applicants (best story, white guy with 25+ years in the company was denied a promotion so a black friend of a manager could be given a job he's wholly unqualified for because the company has trouble hiring minorities and needed numbers -- their minority employees are so few not because of discrimination but because most employees there were hired 20-30 years ago when there was practically no minority populations in the area). I also know minorities who were denied promotions because "hell, the only reason they even got hired in the first place was to fill a fucking quota". Which, actually, is partially true -- regardless of their qualifications.
Affirmative Action was a failure from the day it began, and its legacy is only continued racial tensions in the work place. Do away with it and those tensions will loudly disappear. My racist redneck half-uncle has no issues with hiring people of any race or religion, so long as they're qualified for the job -- in other words, the only color that matters is green.
Not even close. Only possibly true if there is never any intention of deploying that product, and even then.. No.
Car Analogy: How many concept cars ever make it to production? That's right, concept cars are created with no intention of hitting production.
Game Analogy: DNF was never available and got years of PR. It wasn't a falsehood (sort of..), in that they actually did make the things you were being shown and there was an idea that they would be incorporated into a game known as Duke Nukem Forever. No falsehoods, even though the game fell through.
Now, if you expect every statement made to not only be truthful not only for the current and all preceding moments but ALSO presciently truthful indefinitely into the future? Dude, that's fucked up.
So how about we throw out paintball or airsoft. Clearly, games. Except they're just a FPS. Minus the computer part.
And I have no idea what FPS you're raging on that's recylced every year by a dozen companies and resold for 60 bucks a piece on a $400 console, because you're clearly thinking of the Madden franchise. Or, perhaps, the Final Fantasy series
I.. good god my head asplode, please get off your high horse. Games don't need a plot. Tag is a game, chess is a game, ffs beer pong is a game, and there's no plot. Plot comes into games only when the game is trying to tell a story, which is really a fairly recent development but in no way necessary to make a good game.
But I'm sure you're dismiss this as just another unwashed opinion from someone who's not a REAL gamer, elohel.
In order to disable the device, they have to be able to distinguish one device from another. That means tracking (and beyond just an account-login level). I.. thought.. that we didn't *like* that sort of thing. My Slashdot mindthink interpreter could be malfunctioning, but I doubt it.
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Nice attempt at a straw man, but there's so many movies and quite a large cache of classic literature and plays that involve child abuse in some form or another that you just fall flat.
It's very obvious that there is a difference between "videos of child abuse" and movies that contain abuse of a child. But hey, have fun banning Hanzel and Gretel. There's clearly no artistic merit to that story. Or Little Red Riding Hood.
And Australians were forbidden Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 until 2006. You didn't get to see the actual Romero cut of Dawn of the Dead until 1980. 2004 was the first time Australians could watch the 1971 Wes Craven flick, Last House on the Left.
L4D2 will be / was changed so as to get rated. If they didn't tone down some of the gore, Australia would be SOL.
All you've really done is point out that the Australian censorship board is, at best, inconsistent.
And for the record, the Kill Bill you see in Australia is about 5 minutes shorter than what we got to see here in the states.
So hey, sure, congrats, you get to see some of the same stuff that the rest of the civilized world can.. except minus the parts that your government decides are just TOO MUCH for delicate Australian sensibilities.
ps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
read it, understand it, don't go spouting your mouth off about stupid shit without considering the possibility that someone could be exaggerating for dramatic effect ever again. Especially when they're right.
And then it comes out on DVD with the unrated version with all those extras included.
Meanwhile in Australia, even if there was a theater that would show an NC-17 (equiv.) movie, it would never happen because their government has decided that the Australian people are too big of pussies to handle anything remotely as scary and shocking as profane language and dead bodies. Their words, not mine.. more specifically, their actions, which are LOUDER than words.
There is a very large difference between "We don't carry that kind of thing" and "We CAN'T carry that kind of thing". The former means you just need to find a store that caters not to Joe Schmoe and the Averages but to truly weird, disturbing fucks like yourself, with a taste for bizarre and socially unacceptable forms of entertainment. The former means those stores exist. The latter? You're just fucked. Go watch some My Little Pony before they ban that for overt sexuality, too.
There's nothing stopping you here in America from making an NC-17 film. Your ability to profit off it may suffer from the rating.. but if you truly think the movie has merit outside being a vehicle to bring you large quantities of money, you're free to release it as NC-17. Nobody is stopping you, unlike Australia, where it's pretty clear. Remove that icky stuff from your movie, or GTFO.
Awesome! Freedom of expression of ONLY THINGS YOU FUCKING LIKE!
Wait! That's not freedom of expression at all! OH SHIT, I'M BEING ARRESTED, DISSENSION IS UNRATED SPEECH NOT PERMITTED!
Yeah, your ideas of freedom and censorship are all screwy and wrong, but hey, you for one will actually be welcoming our fascist authoritarian overlords without being sarcastic about it. So.. yay for that, right?
(freedom from being offended by the words or beliefs of another: one of the dumbest fucking ideas in the history of humanity. and I am aware that "chopping one's genitals off" is also an idea in the history of humanity, and I'm saying this ludicrous pro-censorship stance is even fucking dumber and less thought-through.)
So fuck you, Mr. Pro-Censorship, Fuck You and your Fucking Redefinitions of Words. "lols well see censorship isnt restrictive, it actually sets you free, you're free to be restricted from ever seeing the things we don't want you to!"... yeah, no, get your damn dirty hands off my language.
..."unless it involves anything that makes anybody remember Nazis, and then it's just fucking banned, man, get out of here with that history crap."
hehe I did get that, but how often do you get the chance to say "clandestine cave casinos common" and still make the least bit of sense. Had to do it!
You don't get it.
They don't throw you out because you're counting cards.
They just... throw you out. Which, yes, is often because someone's been causing some kind of trouble, and sometimes, that's counting cards, but it's their casino and so long as they're not throwing people out based on any protected status (race, gender, creed*, etc), they're in the clear to throw someone out. No reason is OK, good reason is OK, but prejudiced reasons are bad.
*i may be wrong, but there's probably an exception for the band creed, allowing their ejection from the premises at-will. just sayin'.
On it? What about under it? Are clandestine cave casinos common?
A monopoly on cars, perhaps, but not a transportation monopoly. And a monopoly isn't necessarily illegal, either. Patents guarantee a monopoly on something for a certain length of time.
Some companies might make a product that no other company wishes to -- not through any anti-competitive actions, just because they're the only ones who make something. I believe there's only one company in America that makes Limburger cheese. That's not because they're stopping anyone else from making it, it's because the market only has room for one company.
None of that makes a monopoly. A large amount of tires are made for cars, most people only drive cars, some roads only fully work with cars, and car makers actively encourage that. Because travel by boat is a small, niche market. It's not that car makers force the boat makers out of the market, it's that the boat makers are not making the most popular and useful product.
And then there's the people who travel by stilts. I hear there's still a fair bit of compatibility problems both with roads and waterways, but you can always customize your stilts to work properly!
Steam began as a way to distribute Valve software. It worked, other people wanted in. End of story. No antitrust. There actually ARE several companies with a front end similar to Steam, but they all came later, and haven't had as many or as big of titles as Valve has had to wedge their foot in the door.
More competition would be great, obviously. Lack of competition (which isn't precisely true, anyway) is not antitrust, it's that nobody came up with something like Steam before Valve (at least not in a way that was successful). Not a matter of monopoly, just a matter of being the biggest kid on the block. A bit like iTunes, except at its head is a big ol' fat guy rather than the hipster deity.
Don't click on your user name on the left under the "Slashdot" logo, look to the upper-right corner.
Yeah, it sucks.
I'm not talking about that debt.
That IS Bush's debt.
I'm talking about the massive debt Obama's incurred under the economic bailout.
Feel free to wait and blame it on the next republican president if you wish, though. Bush may have hit the economy with his car, but Obama came up and said he could end its suffering. And did. He killed it. All that money to all those companies and it accomplished nothing.
... on one hand I'm pretty sure you made that up, but on the other hand I really wouldn't put it past our media to ask that question.. and if the latter is the case I actually applaud the obamas for that style of STFU.
What you are saying, then, is that affirmative action laws are actually detrimental to your success. I don't think I'm misinterpreting that.
It IS true, it's just government-mandated favoritism. People being what they are, often chafe at parental control, and will try and do exactly as little as they can if they can to comply without drawing punishment.
For the record I know qualified white folk who have not been given jobs so that minority quotas could be filled by unqualified applicants (best story, white guy with 25+ years in the company was denied a promotion so a black friend of a manager could be given a job he's wholly unqualified for because the company has trouble hiring minorities and needed numbers -- their minority employees are so few not because of discrimination but because most employees there were hired 20-30 years ago when there was practically no minority populations in the area).
I also know minorities who were denied promotions because "hell, the only reason they even got hired in the first place was to fill a fucking quota". Which, actually, is partially true -- regardless of their qualifications.
Affirmative Action was a failure from the day it began, and its legacy is only continued racial tensions in the work place. Do away with it and those tensions will loudly disappear. My racist redneck half-uncle has no issues with hiring people of any race or religion, so long as they're qualified for the job -- in other words, the only color that matters is green.
So, wait, if democrats raise taxes to pay for republican debt, who's going to raise taxes to pay for Obama's massive, soul-crushing debt?
This is the first time I can remember seeing anything negative about the democrats modded up on slashdot.
So you then are advocating security through obscurity?
Not even close. Only possibly true if there is never any intention of deploying that product, and even then.. No.
Car Analogy: How many concept cars ever make it to production? That's right, concept cars are created with no intention of hitting production.
Game Analogy: DNF was never available and got years of PR. It wasn't a falsehood (sort of..), in that they actually did make the things you were being shown and there was an idea that they would be incorporated into a game known as Duke Nukem Forever. No falsehoods, even though the game fell through.
Now, if you expect every statement made to not only be truthful not only for the current and all preceding moments but ALSO presciently truthful indefinitely into the future? Dude, that's fucked up.
More importantly, would you rather be beaten to death with a shotgun or shot to death with a crowbar?
So how about we throw out paintball or airsoft. Clearly, games. Except they're just a FPS. Minus the computer part.
And I have no idea what FPS you're raging on that's recylced every year by a dozen companies and resold for 60 bucks a piece on a $400 console, because you're clearly thinking of the Madden franchise. Or, perhaps, the Final Fantasy series
I.. good god my head asplode, please get off your high horse. Games don't need a plot. Tag is a game, chess is a game, ffs beer pong is a game, and there's no plot. Plot comes into games only when the game is trying to tell a story, which is really a fairly recent development but in no way necessary to make a good game.
But I'm sure you're dismiss this as just another unwashed opinion from someone who's not a REAL gamer, elohel.
CS 1.6 is played because a lot, a LOT, of CS players did not care for the Source engine and what it did to their game. Rubber barrels, rubber barrels.
Huh. Didn't think I had clicked that. Twas meee.
In order to disable the device, they have to be able to distinguish one device from another. That means tracking (and beyond just an account-login level).
I.. thought.. that we didn't *like* that sort of thing. My Slashdot mindthink interpreter could be malfunctioning, but I doubt it.