Ah I see, moral relativism. Selling children is OK in some places so businesses should have no qualms about bringing together buyers and sellers. After all there is no such thing as wrong or right. If some cultures want to hang women for showing their faces no problem. If some cultures want to kill girls who are not virgins, no problem. If some cultures practice cannibalism no problem. I am sure we can package up those tasty little girl steaks in an attractive shrink wrap just in time for christmas. I am sure there is a market there.
Let's all make money, there is no such thing as wrong or right.
Yes it's legal to have sex with a 16 year old boy in cambodia but it's not ethical. You apparently have no ethical problems with having sex with 16 year old children so you probably don't get what I am talking about.
Did you read the latest update to mono Miguel wrote? There is a new version of mono and he was explaining what is done and what still needs to be done.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for Miguel but in reality he could have saved himself lots of hours and words if he simply wrote "we are still chasing MS taillights but they are pulling away".
I felt bad for the guy, just as he gets close to.NET 1.1 spec MS has already moved on to 2.0. I agree with you, it would have been much better for the OSS community if he worked on java (classpath) or even parrot.
I get the feeling parrot will put the final nail in the coffin of mono and kick both java and.net in the balls.
It's legal to have sex with underage children at various places in the world. Should Google facilitate the finding of underage boys and girls for rich businessmen? I mean it's legal right?
It's a double edges sword really. On the one hand if you ignore them the windows users will howl and cry like a baby. On the other hand if you try to replicate their windows experience they will howl and cry because you are not innovating and instead duping windows. What's more they will also berate you daily for not exactly duplicating every little nitpick too.
I don't think it's possible to please them really.
Throught history the only thing that has been shown to be effective is massive civil disobedience. That's not the soap box because it's based on action (although the soap box is probably what gets it going).
Here is an idea. Since the geeks are the ones concerned about this issue how about for five minutes geeks disable any machine there in charge of. A simple "ifdown all" will suffice. Hell let's make it two minutes. Make that statement and watch the policians get in line to pander to you instead.
Alas geeks are by nature not herd animals. Like cats you can never them organized or pulling in the same direction. Pity really, we should have more power then the doctors and the lawyers by now but most geeks are violently anti-union even if we call our union an "association" like the doctors and the lawyers do.
RMS wrote the GPL because the only way the GPL could be invalidated is by destroying copyright. It's a hack of the copyright system. He does want to get rid of copyright and I think he is prepared something in case they replace it with something more draconian.
Crying about how life is unfair will not accomplish anything. On the other hand if somebody rapes your sister you should report them to the police. It's much more effective to lobby your congressman or local district attorney to take action against dumping and abusing monopoly profits.
Criminals should not be let off easy and they should not profit from their crimes.
Why don't you check to see if the PSP and the PS2 divisions were profitable before you go on further embarrasing yourself with your ignorance.
Companies without monopolies can not keep unprofitable divisions around very long. The sony playstation group is profitable, the xbox divison has been losing money for years now.
Ms has always tried to paint a patina of openness on their closed procotols and file formats. They just want to be able to say that they support open formats so the CIOs can be fooled.
At it's core I don't think anybody at Ms believes in open formats or supporting open standards. It seems to me that they would have supported at least one or two popular open standards like HTML, Kerberos, LDAP, or something. The fact is everytime they had a choice as to follow a standard or break one they have chosen to break one. Even if the standard was proposed by them (see c#).
"Are those processes and licenses so fragile and irrelevant/impotent that they can be co-opted/corrupted so easily? If so, should any business in their right mind use any software based on such licenses?"
1) MS could have used groupdav or an already existing standard. 2) Why would anybody trust MS to do right thing, ever? How many times does someone need to stab you in the back before you treat them with caution?
It doesn't say that. It says they don't think that it does and if one is found it will be available under RAND licensing.
MS is probably lying about the patents, (they lie pretty much all the time) there probably is a patent and they will make it available under RAND which is not compatible with open source licenses.
The difference with MS is that they can plow the profits from their monopoly divisions to money losing divisions forever. Other comapnies can't do that.
Why not different storage engines? If you have a table that is rarely updated (like a lookup table) why not use a table type is optimized for reading? If you have a small table of disposable data why not use a in memory table type?
It's a feature, maybe it's not useful for you but it might be useful for somebody else.
RAND means it's not compatible with the GPL. That's why MS is doing this, because the competing protocols liek groupdav, ical etc are all GPL compatible.
MS wants to destroy the GPL more then anything else in the world.
"MS: "I like oranges" You: "I think what you really mean was.. you don't like oranges!" bwahahaha, high five guys!"
No it's more like this.
MS: "I like oranges" me: "for the last five years you have done nothing but lie to me I don't believe you for one second. Please take your hands out of your pockets so I can see if you are holding a knife. The last fifty times you knifed me it hurt like hell and cost me lots of money"
Although all animals kill to eat (like us) they don't seem to engage in the gratuitus and mindless violence nearly as much as we do especially within their own species. When two wolves or rams square off one usually submits before things get out of hand.
I think cheney, wolfowitz, rumsfeld et al know how to get bush to do anything. All they need to do is to convince them that god wants him to do something and he will fall in line. Personally I don't think Bush went to iraq for oil, the cabal wanted the oil but they had to pitch it bush by pointing out that he would be fulfilling biblican prophesy if he invaded iraq.
Why would you believe anything anybody from Microsoft says? If Bill Gates told me that sky was blue I would wait till I saw it to believe it.
Throughout this whole case they have lied about the nature of their file formats, about opendoc, about the supposed SUN patents on opendoc, about the relicensing clause in their own EULA etc. You name it they have lied about it.
This is mosly likely just a smokescreen to try and delay the adoption of opendoc that's all. When all the details are released you will probably see patent protections and relicensing problems with the supposed standard. Remember MS will never ever release anything that might be compatible with the GPL. They regard the GPL as one of the great evils of the world.
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Ah I see, moral relativism. Selling children is OK in some places so businesses should have no qualms about bringing together buyers and sellers. After all there is no such thing as wrong or right. If some cultures want to hang women for showing their faces no problem. If some cultures want to kill girls who are not virgins, no problem. If some cultures practice cannibalism no problem. I am sure we can package up those tasty little girl steaks in an attractive shrink wrap just in time for christmas. I am sure there is a market there.
Let's all make money, there is no such thing as wrong or right.
You missed the point entirely didn't you.
Yes it's legal to have sex with a 16 year old boy in cambodia but it's not ethical. You apparently have no ethical problems with having sex with 16 year old children so you probably don't get what I am talking about.
Did you read the latest update to mono Miguel wrote? There is a new version of mono and he was explaining what is done and what still needs to be done.
.NET 1.1 spec MS has already moved on to 2.0. I agree with you, it would have been much better for the OSS community if he worked on java (classpath) or even parrot.
.net in the balls.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for Miguel but in reality he could have saved himself lots of hours and words if he simply wrote "we are still chasing MS taillights but they are pulling away".
I felt bad for the guy, just as he gets close to
I get the feeling parrot will put the final nail in the coffin of mono and kick both java and
It's legal to have sex with underage children at various places in the world. Should Google facilitate the finding of underage boys and girls for rich businessmen? I mean it's legal right?
It's a double edges sword really. On the one hand if you ignore them the windows users will howl and cry like a baby. On the other hand if you try to replicate their windows experience they will howl and cry because you are not innovating and instead duping windows. What's more they will also berate you daily for not exactly duplicating every little nitpick too.
I don't think it's possible to please them really.
Throught history the only thing that has been shown to be effective is massive civil disobedience. That's not the soap box because it's based on action (although the soap box is probably what gets it going).
Here is an idea. Since the geeks are the ones concerned about this issue how about for five minutes geeks disable any machine there in charge of. A simple "ifdown all" will suffice. Hell let's make it two minutes. Make that statement and watch the policians get in line to pander to you instead.
Alas geeks are by nature not herd animals. Like cats you can never them organized or pulling in the same direction. Pity really, we should have more power then the doctors and the lawyers by now but most geeks are violently anti-union even if we call our union an "association" like the doctors and the lawyers do.
Bush: God told me I have to invade iraq.
Bush, Blair: Pray, Pray, Pray.
Blair: I have decided to support Bush.
Yes it's that simple.
RMS wrote the GPL because the only way the GPL could be invalidated is by destroying copyright. It's a hack of the copyright system. He does want to get rid of copyright and I think he is prepared something in case they replace it with something more draconian.
No I am comparing what microsoft does to rape. Lots of companies sell products, that's like sex. Ms rapes the competition in an extremely violent way.
I am comparing the executives of microsoft to rapists, they have the same mindset as rapists do. They are basically sociopathic people with power.
If you are going to use XMPP why use a browser at all?
MS lawyers are probably rushing to the patent office as we speak. They patented the ipod interface after ipod was on the market remember.
Lets hope so. The alternative is that our grandchildren will still be mocking microsoft just like we are mocking them now.
Crying about how life is unfair will not accomplish anything. On the other hand if somebody rapes your sister you should report them to the police. It's much more effective to lobby your congressman or local district attorney to take action against dumping and abusing monopoly profits.
Criminals should not be let off easy and they should not profit from their crimes.
Why don't you check to see if the PSP and the PS2 divisions were profitable before you go on further embarrasing yourself with your ignorance.
Companies without monopolies can not keep unprofitable divisions around very long. The sony playstation group is profitable, the xbox divison has been losing money for years now.
Ms has always tried to paint a patina of openness on their closed procotols and file formats. They just want to be able to say that they support open formats so the CIOs can be fooled.
At it's core I don't think anybody at Ms believes in open formats or supporting open standards. It seems to me that they would have supported at least one or two popular open standards like HTML, Kerberos, LDAP, or something. The fact is everytime they had a choice as to follow a standard or break one they have chosen to break one. Even if the standard was proposed by them (see c#).
"Are those processes and licenses so fragile and irrelevant/impotent that they can be co-opted/corrupted so easily? If so, should any business in their right mind use any software based on such licenses?"
1) MS could have used groupdav or an already existing standard.
2) Why would anybody trust MS to do right thing, ever? How many times does someone need to stab you in the back before you treat them with caution?
It doesn't say that. It says they don't think that it does and if one is found it will be available under RAND licensing.
MS is probably lying about the patents, (they lie pretty much all the time) there probably is a patent and they will make it available under RAND which is not compatible with open source licenses.
The difference with MS is that they can plow the profits from their monopoly divisions to money losing divisions forever. Other comapnies can't do that.
Why not different storage engines? If you have a table that is rarely updated (like a lookup table) why not use a table type is optimized for reading? If you have a small table of disposable data why not use a in memory table type?
It's a feature, maybe it's not useful for you but it might be useful for somebody else.
RAND means it's not compatible with the GPL. That's why MS is doing this, because the competing protocols liek groupdav, ical etc are all GPL compatible.
MS wants to destroy the GPL more then anything else in the world.
Is it patented? Does the creative commons license protect me from MS patents.
"MS: "I like oranges"
You: "I think what you really mean was.. you don't like oranges!" bwahahaha, high five guys!"
No it's more like this.
MS: "I like oranges"
me: "for the last five years you have done nothing but lie to me I don't believe you for one second. Please take your hands out of your pockets so I can see if you are holding a knife. The last fifty times you knifed me it hurt like hell and cost me lots of money"
See how that works?
Although all animals kill to eat (like us) they don't seem to engage in the gratuitus and mindless violence nearly as much as we do especially within their own species. When two wolves or rams square off one usually submits before things get out of hand.
I think cheney, wolfowitz, rumsfeld et al know how to get bush to do anything. All they need to do is to convince them that god wants him to do something and he will fall in line. Personally I don't think Bush went to iraq for oil, the cabal wanted the oil but they had to pitch it bush by pointing out that he would be fulfilling biblican prophesy if he invaded iraq.
Why would you believe anything anybody from Microsoft says? If Bill Gates told me that sky was blue I would wait till I saw it to believe it.
Throughout this whole case they have lied about the nature of their file formats, about opendoc, about the supposed SUN patents on opendoc, about the relicensing clause in their own EULA etc. You name it they have lied about it.
This is mosly likely just a smokescreen to try and delay the adoption of opendoc that's all. When all the details are released you will probably see patent protections and relicensing problems with the supposed standard. Remember MS will never ever release anything that might be compatible with the GPL. They regard the GPL as one of the great evils of the world.