The millions of mac users aren't really the target. The target is the much more numerous windows users. Besides mac users are too picky to switch to anything. If we waited till the finicky mac users to jump on board we would all grow old and die.
What if Oracle looked at mysql and saw that there was a market for a smaller, free or cheap database server and said to themselves... "Hey let's buy innodb so that we get some of that money".
Everybody is putting an evil spin on this but it could be as simple as hedging your bets.
So what you are saying is the open office is not good enough for anybody using windows because neooffice for mac doesn't have a unified toolbar and is ugly.
"Knife the baby" "Cut off their air supply" "F**king Eric Schmidt [Google's chief executive] is a f***ing p****. I'm going to f***ing bury that guy. I have done it before, I will do it again. I'm going to f****ing kill Google." "Open source advocates are communists" "Open source is un-american" "Open source is a cancer" "If they want to sue me they can get in line"
There are so many gems from the sleazy MS executives, somebody ought to dig them up and make a list.
The name of the foundation is Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. How come nobody says "Melinda Gates foundation"?. Bill didn't give a cent to anybody until after he got marrried, maybe it's Melinda that's the generous one. Ever think of that?
By the way I glad you found a way to circumvent using the software Bill Gates is shoving down your throats. Teach your fellow students the same thing. It would be a shame if your school graduated a generation of children who didn't know anything that wasn't made by MS.
1) Proportion. If the red cross came to my door asking for donations and I gave them a quarter am I being generous? In a way yes because I could have shut the door but in another way no because I can certainly afford to give a little more generously.
2) What's left. If I have a million dollars to live on for a year and I give 50 thousand dollars to a charity I can still live pretty comfortably on what's left. If a person has 75 thousand and gives away he only has 25 thousand dollars to live on for a year. Who is impacted more? Who is more generous.
3) What you actually lost. If I have a million dollars and I give away that money I lost a million dollars. If I have a suitcase full of paper that I got for nothing and I give it somebody who later sells that paper for a million dollars I lost a suitcase full of money and possible future income. That's what Bill Gates does, he gives stock to the foundation, the foundation then sells that stock and gives away the money with much publicity always making sure Bill gets mentioned by name.
First of all Jobs and Woz don't feel the need to publisize their charitable efforts. Neither of them has a reputation to repair. Gates uses charitable work as a PR tool to try and shed his image as a sleazy and unethical person. The fact that he didn't give one cent to anybody until after the DOJ pressed charges speaks volumes.
Oh and where did you get your 28 billion figure come from? Go ahead and provide a link if you can. If you can't then I will presume you are simply a paid shill and an astro turfer.
Finally. The cost of charitable efforts by Gates are simply the cost of doing business for him. He makes his money by his sleazy and unethical methods and he gives a little back for PR value. It has nothing to with charity, nothing to do with goodwill. It's just crass manipulation of the gullable masses (like you!) and it works for some of the people.
So what? From the customer's perspective that doesn't matter at all. You choose a distro (and lets face it if you are a business you will go with suse, redhat or ubuntu) and then you choose a vendor to support it. Surprise! suse, redhat and ubuntu all offer support.
From a customer's perspective it's no different then choosing netapp or HP and then getting a support plan.
" Since when does having multiple distributions constitue "fragmentation"?"
Whenever you want to spread FUD. Apparently linux won't be suitable for general use until there is only one distribution left. When that happens MS then has only one enemy to go after and destroy.
In the race of evil I don't think Ellison wins against gates. It's a close one for sure but gates is certainly more evil then Ellison. All ellison has done is to buy competitors (sometimes hostile) and compensates their shareholders with lots of money. Gates shoves a competing product down the throat of everybody using windows and drives a company into bankrupcy.
Most people are perfectly capable of memorising their own phone numbers. They also seem to be quite capable memorizing their cell numbers, the numbers of their friends, children or parents. People are not as dumb as you think they are.
"Now, bugger off with your holier-than-thou attitude, get a sense of humor, and go "contribute" something."
I will repeat myself since you didn't seem to understand it.
Open source only works when YOU contribute.
That's it. just contribute.
By the way go fuck yourself with yoru smarmy attitude OK? I haven't asked anybody to let open source take over their life. Just contribute, if you don't contribute then shut the fuck up and let the people who are actually doing something get on with it. Sitting at the sidelines and yelling "ha ha" isn't very attractive.
The fact the registry is locked on a fine grained level is the main reason why it's virtually impossible to run windows under a non privledged account. The fact that MS applications themselves are moving away from the registry and into XML files ought to clue you in to the future of the registry.
"Thats right, because of the restistry, stuff just works. We have installs that just work. We have programs that can talk to eachother, and it just works. Linux, not so much."
Ha Ha Ha. That's rich. Move an application from one machine to another and it doesn't "just work". Why? Because you have to track down a dozen activeX controls and register them. REcompile your app with another guid and it doesn't just work, the vendor upgrades your activex control and it doesn't just work.
Sorry bud nothing in windows "just works".
Oh by the way linux has libraries just like windows. You may want to read up on them.
Actually most of the address you wrote is redundant. Once you have the zip there is no reason to have the city, state or the name of the inversity. The address should be written as.
United States, 17745 McEntire Hall Room 545 Jim Smith
Better yet since each country already has a unique phone extention maybe even.
"In terms of building a solid product... it's used on roughly 95% of the world's desktops. Nothing significantly better exists, or the vast majority of people would have jumped ship long ago."
Apple has alwasy been better. OS/2 was better, hell Amiga was better. If you think that what's popular is what's best then you plain old stupid.
"In terms of good corporate citizenship... shall we talk about the $28.8 billion dollars in the Gates Foundation? The $7.5 billion given away to date?"
1) Gates foundation is not microsoft. 2) Gates foundation was created in order to influence people like you (it worked!) into thinking Gates was actually a nice guy. 3) 7 billion is petty cash 4) Gates didn't actually give away money, he just gave stock he got for free to the foundation which then sold it.
"In terms of ethical and moral behavior? Sorry, Enron is shocking and shameful. Dow's toxic waste dumps in India are shocking and shameful. Declaring bankruptcy just to get out from under your employee's pension obligations is shocking and shameful."
Whoo Whoo, MS is less sleazy then enron and DOW!. It's nice to see corporations set their standards so low.
Because there is no such thing as public censorship. THe govt actually prevents you from doing something while the public simply calls you on your evil nature after you have done something.
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SO just because sybase can't sell their product there is no market? Mysql seems to be making a couple of dollars.
The millions of mac users aren't really the target. The target is the much more numerous windows users. Besides mac users are too picky to switch to anything. If we waited till the finicky mac users to jump on board we would all grow old and die.
"but we still can't get drivers installed. I'm likely to agree with the author that there are roadblocks not of our making that is causing this."
In most cases it's illegal to try and write drivers for hardware you don't have specs and permission for. DMCA sees to that.
If you have problems with drivers then you need to yell at the hardware manufacturer.
What if Oracle looked at mysql and saw that there was a market for a smaller, free or cheap database server and said to themselves... "Hey let's buy innodb so that we get some of that money".
Everybody is putting an evil spin on this but it could be as simple as hedging your bets.
So what you are saying is the open office is not good enough for anybody using windows because neooffice for mac doesn't have a unified toolbar and is ugly.
LOL.
I would prefer the following.
"Knife the baby"
"Cut off their air supply"
"F**king Eric Schmidt [Google's chief executive] is a f***ing p****. I'm going to f***ing bury that guy. I have done it before, I will do it again. I'm going to f****ing kill Google."
"Open source advocates are communists"
"Open source is un-american"
"Open source is a cancer"
"If they want to sue me they can get in line"
There are so many gems from the sleazy MS executives, somebody ought to dig them up and make a list.
The name of the foundation is Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. How come nobody says "Melinda Gates foundation"?. Bill didn't give a cent to anybody until after he got marrried, maybe it's Melinda that's the generous one. Ever think of that?
By the way I glad you found a way to circumvent using the software Bill Gates is shoving down your throats. Teach your fellow students the same thing. It would be a shame if your school graduated a generation of children who didn't know anything that wasn't made by MS.
There three ways to look at it.
1) Proportion. If the red cross came to my door asking for donations and I gave them a quarter am I being generous? In a way yes because I could have shut the door but in another way no because I can certainly afford to give a little more generously.
2) What's left. If I have a million dollars to live on for a year and I give 50 thousand dollars to a charity I can still live pretty comfortably on what's left. If a person has 75 thousand and gives away he only has 25 thousand dollars to live on for a year. Who is impacted more? Who is more generous.
3) What you actually lost. If I have a million dollars and I give away that money I lost a million dollars. If I have a suitcase full of paper that I got for nothing and I give it somebody who later sells that paper for a million dollars I lost a suitcase full of money and possible future income. That's what Bill Gates does, he gives stock to the foundation, the foundation then sells that stock and gives away the money with much publicity always making sure Bill gets mentioned by name.
It's perfectly legal and OK to have a monopoly. It's illegal to abuse that monopoly.
So you tell me how apple is abusing their monopoly.
Let me once again repeat myself.
Fuck off with your smarmy attitude.
First of all Jobs and Woz don't feel the need to publisize their charitable efforts. Neither of them has a reputation to repair. Gates uses charitable work as a PR tool to try and shed his image as a sleazy and unethical person. The fact that he didn't give one cent to anybody until after the DOJ pressed charges speaks volumes.
Oh and where did you get your 28 billion figure come from? Go ahead and provide a link if you can. If you can't then I will presume you are simply a paid shill and an astro turfer.
Finally. The cost of charitable efforts by Gates are simply the cost of doing business for him. He makes his money by his sleazy and unethical methods and he gives a little back for PR value. It has nothing to with charity, nothing to do with goodwill. It's just crass manipulation of the gullable masses (like you!) and it works for some of the people.
So what? From the customer's perspective that doesn't matter at all. You choose a distro (and lets face it if you are a business you will go with suse, redhat or ubuntu) and then you choose a vendor to support it. Surprise! suse, redhat and ubuntu all offer support.
From a customer's perspective it's no different then choosing netapp or HP and then getting a support plan.
" Since when does having multiple distributions constitue "fragmentation"?"
Whenever you want to spread FUD. Apparently linux won't be suitable for general use until there is only one distribution left. When that happens MS then has only one enemy to go after and destroy.
In the race of evil I don't think Ellison wins against gates. It's a close one for sure but gates is certainly more evil then Ellison. All ellison has done is to buy competitors (sometimes hostile) and compensates their shareholders with lots of money. Gates shoves a competing product down the throat of everybody using windows and drives a company into bankrupcy.
Yup Gates is still more evil.
EV1? Didn't they tried like hell to backtrack and still lost a ton of customers? Are you saying all those customers who left came back to them?\
Most people are perfectly capable of memorising their own phone numbers. They also seem to be quite capable memorizing their cell numbers, the numbers of their friends, children or parents. People are not as dumb as you think they are.
"Now, bugger off with your holier-than-thou attitude, get a sense of humor, and go "contribute" something."
I will repeat myself since you didn't seem to understand it.
Open source only works when YOU contribute.
That's it. just contribute.
By the way go fuck yourself with yoru smarmy attitude OK? I haven't asked anybody to let open source take over their life. Just contribute, if you don't contribute then shut the fuck up and let the people who are actually doing something get on with it. Sitting at the sidelines and yelling "ha ha" isn't very attractive.
Exactly. Why does it have to be english at all. My phone number is not english why should my address be english.
The fact the registry is locked on a fine grained level is the main reason why it's virtually impossible to run windows under a non privledged account. The fact that MS applications themselves are moving away from the registry and into XML files ought to clue you in to the future of the registry.
Mmmm. Which operating sytem "just works"
A) windows.
B ) Mac OS X.
Bonus question.
Which operating system is unix?
Oh I am sorry did I just defuse your FUD?
"Thats right, because of the restistry, stuff just works. We have installs that just work. We have programs that can talk to eachother, and it just works. Linux, not so much."
Ha Ha Ha. That's rich. Move an application from one machine to another and it doesn't "just work". Why? Because you have to track down a dozen activeX controls and register them. REcompile your app with another guid and it doesn't just work, the vendor upgrades your activex control and it doesn't just work.
Sorry bud nothing in windows "just works".
Oh by the way linux has libraries just like windows. You may want to read up on them.
Actually most of the address you wrote is redundant. Once you have the zip there is no reason to have the city, state or the name of the inversity. The address should be written as.
United States, 17745
McEntire Hall
Room 545
Jim Smith
Better yet since each country already has a unique phone extention maybe even.
+1 17745
McEntire Hall
Room 545
Jim Smith
"In terms of building a solid product... it's used on roughly 95% of the world's desktops. Nothing significantly better exists, or the vast majority of people would have jumped ship long ago."
Apple has alwasy been better. OS/2 was better, hell Amiga was better. If you think that what's popular is what's best then you plain old stupid.
"In terms of good corporate citizenship... shall we talk about the $28.8 billion dollars in the Gates Foundation? The $7.5 billion given away to date?"
1) Gates foundation is not microsoft. 2) Gates foundation was created in order to influence people like you (it worked!) into thinking Gates was actually a nice guy. 3) 7 billion is petty cash 4) Gates didn't actually give away money, he just gave stock he got for free to the foundation which then sold it.
"In terms of ethical and moral behavior? Sorry, Enron is shocking and shameful. Dow's toxic waste dumps in India are shocking and shameful. Declaring bankruptcy just to get out from under your employee's pension obligations is shocking and shameful."
Whoo Whoo, MS is less sleazy then enron and DOW!. It's nice to see corporations set their standards so low.
There is no discernable difference in the psychology of a corporation and a mass murderer.
Because there is no such thing as public censorship. THe govt actually prevents you from doing something while the public simply calls you on your evil nature after you have done something.