'And stop calling Microsoft a failure. It's the opposite of failure, obviously. Are you just trying to troll?"
Depends on your definition of failure doesn't it. In terms of building a solid product it's a humiliating failure. In terms of good corporate citizenship it's a dismal failure. In terms of ethical and moral behavior it's a shocking and shameful failure.
Yes they make a lot of money. If you measure success in terms of money then they are not a failure.
Yes, the fact that you didn't help is one of the reasons why it hasn't made it to the desktop yet. The problem is that your attitude ifnects others to do the same. TO sit on the sidelines with their hands out whining. Worse yet to sit on the sidelines insulting and berating people who are actually doing work.
LIke everything else in life you get from open source what you put in. You may be putting out widlfires but I know for sure you also spend hours and hours every day watching tv, what would happen if you gave up half an hour of tv per day to go help some project? Do you think it would have an impact? I do.
You could always pay somebody to code it for you, you would be no worse off then if you had paid for a program except that you just helped thousands of people.
You could also write instructions, draw pictures, make a web site, answer question on IRC or mailing lists or a thousand other things.
The biggest problem is that people say "I can't code" and then stand there with their hands out looking for somebody to give them free software. Once they get it then they go into full time whine mode about how it's not as good as something you pay for.
Hang on a second, you are equavicating somebody like ann coulter with somebody like juan williams. While juan MAY be slight off center to the left ann coulter is to the right of moussalini.
Get real.
One other point. ON fox news the whole point of heving somebody like susan estrich on is to yell at her and call her a cook while newt gets asked questions like "why is hillary clinton so evil?" and let him rant on for 15 minutes.
Too bad in only was ajax in explorer. In firefox you got a crappy web mail app. I think the open source stuff is so much better because they don't purposfully cripple their web apps when you use a browser they don't approve of.
Having said that maybe they should put on their evil hats make it so it's crippled in IE, maybe then people would switch.
Not quite yet. It is missing point in time recovery, robust replication, replication of subsets, failover and clustering (with on disk table types), multi version concurrency, domains, and a dozen other features. I haven't checked to see if it has nested transactions yet either.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's great they are adding features and catching up to firebird, postgresql, ingres and other open source databases. They really should tackle replication next though, right now only ingres has comprehensive and robust replication although postgresql is coming along.
1) If the truth bit you on your ass would you recognize it?
2) I would like to know what you use to prevent your pants from actually catching fire when you speak.
BIll Gates is worth 100 billion dollars. If he wanted to he could spend 90 billion on education, hunger, poverty, health, hunger, deforestation or any other of the chronic problems of this planet and either actually solve it or make it a rare condition. After all that he would still have 10 billion dollars with which he would somehow have to muddle along. I am trying hard to figure out exactly what he would have to sacrifice to live on only 10 billion dollars but for the life of me I can't think of a single thing he would have to give up.
So I don't really believe he is sincere about anything he does. To me what speaks volumes is the fact that he didn't give anything to anybody until after the trial started and the fact the he seems to seek publicity for all of his charitable efforts. It really looks more like a PR effort then genuine concern.
Will he be telling the students to skip their philosophy and ethics classes?
It would be interesting to organize the philosophy dept to protest his visits, it would certainly get some interesting press. Gates gets so much sycophantic praise and adulation, I wonder how he would react to people calling him on his ethical shortcomings.
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WAAAAAH Mommy make them stop. They gave me something free and now they don't want to babysit me while I fumble around trying to make it work.
Hey why don't you call MS and try to get help with MSN messenger, that ought to be a hoot!.
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LOL so you are saying that installing things on windows always works smoothly? IT never crashes your system or leaves your computer in an unusable state? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
That's rich man.
Oh and I NEVER have the problems you are talking about, maybe that's because I use ubuntu instead of rolling my own distribution like you did. People like you and beginners should never roll their own distributions, there are lots of distros out there with great package management.
"Where are the interface experts, usability consultants, test groups etc?"
Like you they are sitting at the sidelines insulting people who are actually doing work. Interface experts and usability consultants and people like you have no intention of every helping out any open source project. Instead they feel that the only way open source can advance is to continually insult open source developers and berate their products. The thing is even when other people work their asses off to give you something for free it will not stop your ungrateful fucks from bitching and moaning. You guys will always bitch and moan no matter what.
Why don't you quit your bitching and help out. Read a couple of books on usability and go lend a hand to somebody, it might make you feel better then pulling a nelson.
"When you are at 69% market share something is legal and at 70% it is not? "
Having a monopoly is not illegal, abusing one is. MS was not found guilty of being a monopoly, they were found guilty of abusing that monopoly.
"Of course the problem is how to protect companies like Real wants to compete with Apple and MS, on particular part of their OS. There are no good answers that treats everyone fairly."
Nothing is prefect not even the antitrust laws, but that's all we have. I think the vast majority of people here in/. would be perfectly happy just to see the law being applied fairly and people punished for breaking the laws. Alas MS seems immune to US law.
There is no google web office. However there is and has been for many years think free office. Contrary to your prediction it has not been adopted rapidly or widely despite being available over the web and despite being a decent product.
Admire? Who said anything about admire? Oh I see, you have nothing real to say so you argue against something nobody said. How is that working out for you?
"rtificial? as opposed to what? are there business structures that are not artificial? they grow in the forest?"
They are artificial and yet they have full rights as a human being. A corporation which is not alive, has no soul but has more rights then my dog. That's an abomination. It's a travesty of law and justice.
"where do you get the idea that corporations are created to shirk responsibility"
Corporations are designed to shirk responsibility. To protect the assets of individuals and to shield them from their decisions. That's their core value.
"why are corporations immoral at the core? "
A corporation has only one code, to make more money. If a corporation at any point decides to act morally or ethically it can be sued by shareholders for not trying to maximize their profit. Morality is not about making money, in fact Jesus claims love of money is the root of all evil. Corporations are immoral because they only love money and nothing else.
"what do you propose?"
For starter let's strip the rights of corporations so that they have less rights then my dog. Then let's weaken the corporate shield (or veil as they call it) drastically so that shareholders and CEOs can be held personally responsible for the actions of their corporations.
"i'd also like to remind you that this website you seem to be enjoying is run by and owned by an "evil corporation""
that's right, so what? Does that make it any less greedy?
"Which just goes to show you--once a scientific "fact" has been established, our attachment to it becomes as dogmatic as any theological notion..."
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Religious dogma hasn't changed in 2000 fucking years. Science may be slower to change but it does change. Your comparison of scientific orthodoxy to religious dogma is just just pure and unadulterated bullshit. It's like saying there is no difference between shaquille O'Neil and the empire state building because they are both tall.
You do realize that there are people who still think the earth was created in six days right? You compare a fundie who believes that the earth is 3000 years old to a scientist who still thinks dark matter exists? What the fuck kind of an idiot are you?
Every major distro uses GNOME as the default desktop, with other including KDE as an option. So it seems like GNOME has been settled as the default one true desktop for linux.
If you like KDE it's there as an option and you are free to use it but you really have no cause to complain about missing tools. You have chosen to use a desktop which the distro maintainers do not support as the default.
I don't get people. On the one had they complain about too many choices on the other they complain when they choose something that is not the default.
The innovation in rails was to take the database as the authoritive source and have the code adapt dynamically to changes in the database. In most ORM layers the XML descriptor is the authoritive source.
If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then David Heinemeier Hansson must be blushing right now. His framework has insipired every other language proponent to make a rails like framework. There is trails in java, django in python (and now turbogears), there are at least two PHP frameworks and even a.NET one. I think somehow David touched a nerve someplace and produced something really beautiful.
Much of what makes rails great is the highly dynamic nature of Ruby itself. Do yourself a favor and read the activerecord source code. Even if you don't know ruby it's an interesting lesson on how to take advantage of dynamic scripting languages. I am sure python and PHP could also do something like this but the Java and.NET people are resorting to code generation to try and mimic some of the functionality of rails.
To me it seems like a silly exercise to replicate rails in python or what have you. Ruby is easy to pick up and a nice language to boot. Why bother really? Just learn ruby and get on board.
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'And stop calling Microsoft a failure. It's the opposite of failure, obviously. Are you just trying to troll?"
Depends on your definition of failure doesn't it. In terms of building a solid product it's a humiliating failure. In terms of good corporate citizenship it's a dismal failure. In terms of ethical and moral behavior it's a shocking and shameful failure.
Yes they make a lot of money. If you measure success in terms of money then they are not a failure.
Yes, the fact that you didn't help is one of the reasons why it hasn't made it to the desktop yet. The problem is that your attitude ifnects others to do the same. TO sit on the sidelines with their hands out whining. Worse yet to sit on the sidelines insulting and berating people who are actually doing work.
LIke everything else in life you get from open source what you put in. You may be putting out widlfires but I know for sure you also spend hours and hours every day watching tv, what would happen if you gave up half an hour of tv per day to go help some project? Do you think it would have an impact? I do.
Take some personal responsibility.
You could always pay somebody to code it for you, you would be no worse off then if you had paid for a program except that you just helped thousands of people.
You could also write instructions, draw pictures, make a web site, answer question on IRC or mailing lists or a thousand other things.
The biggest problem is that people say "I can't code" and then stand there with their hands out looking for somebody to give them free software. Once they get it then they go into full time whine mode about how it's not as good as something you pay for.
Open source only works when YOU contribute.
Maybe that should be new slogan of Fox News. "Fox news, we are as bad as slashdot".
Hang on a second, you are equavicating somebody like ann coulter with somebody like juan williams. While juan MAY be slight off center to the left ann coulter is to the right of moussalini.
Get real.
One other point. ON fox news the whole point of heving somebody like susan estrich on is to yell at her and call her a cook while newt gets asked questions like "why is hillary clinton so evil?" and let him rant on for 15 minutes.
Too bad in only was ajax in explorer. In firefox you got a crappy web mail app. I think the open source stuff is so much better because they don't purposfully cripple their web apps when you use a browser they don't approve of.
Having said that maybe they should put on their evil hats make it so it's crippled in IE, maybe then people would switch.
Not quite yet. It is missing point in time recovery, robust replication, replication of subsets, failover and clustering (with on disk table types), multi version concurrency, domains, and a dozen other features. I haven't checked to see if it has nested transactions yet either.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's great they are adding features and catching up to firebird, postgresql, ingres and other open source databases. They really should tackle replication next though, right now only ingres has comprehensive and robust replication although postgresql is coming along.
Probably because they are not reviled like MS is. I bet both apple and IBM are turning down talent by the buckets.
Be honest, who would you rather work for? Apple, Google, or MS?
Mr. Gates two questions if you don't mind.
1) If the truth bit you on your ass would you recognize it?
2) I would like to know what you use to prevent your pants from actually catching fire when you speak.
BIll Gates is worth 100 billion dollars. If he wanted to he could spend 90 billion on education, hunger, poverty, health, hunger, deforestation or any other of the chronic problems of this planet and either actually solve it or make it a rare condition. After all that he would still have 10 billion dollars with which he would somehow have to muddle along. I am trying hard to figure out exactly what he would have to sacrifice to live on only 10 billion dollars but for the life of me I can't think of a single thing he would have to give up.
So I don't really believe he is sincere about anything he does. To me what speaks volumes is the fact that he didn't give anything to anybody until after the trial started and the fact the he seems to seek publicity for all of his charitable efforts. It really looks more like a PR effort then genuine concern.
Will he be telling the students to skip their philosophy and ethics classes?
It would be interesting to organize the philosophy dept to protest his visits, it would certainly get some interesting press. Gates gets so much sycophantic praise and adulation, I wonder how he would react to people calling him on his ethical shortcomings.
WAAAAAH Mommy make them stop. They gave me something free and now they don't want to babysit me while I fumble around trying to make it work.
Hey why don't you call MS and try to get help with MSN messenger, that ought to be a hoot!.
LOL so you are saying that installing things on windows always works smoothly? IT never crashes your system or leaves your computer in an unusable state? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
That's rich man.
Oh and I NEVER have the problems you are talking about, maybe that's because I use ubuntu instead of rolling my own distribution like you did. People like you and beginners should never roll their own distributions, there are lots of distros out there with great package management.
I hadn't seen that before. Finally some fresh thinking about the desktop. Actualy GUI innovation going on. These guys need more exposure.
"Where are the interface experts, usability consultants, test groups etc?"
Like you they are sitting at the sidelines insulting people who are actually doing work. Interface experts and usability consultants and people like you have no intention of every helping out any open source project. Instead they feel that the only way open source can advance is to continually insult open source developers and berate their products. The thing is even when other people work their asses off to give you something for free it will not stop your ungrateful fucks from bitching and moaning. You guys will always bitch and moan no matter what.
Why don't you quit your bitching and help out. Read a couple of books on usability and go lend a hand to somebody, it might make you feel better then pulling a nelson.
Hell all they have to do lose a hundred more cases like this and and they might actually be in trouble.
750 million is pocket change to them, just the cost of doing business.
"When you are at 69% market share something is legal and at 70% it is not? "
/. would be perfectly happy just to see the law being applied fairly and people punished for breaking the laws. Alas MS seems immune to US law.
Having a monopoly is not illegal, abusing one is. MS was not found guilty of being a monopoly, they were found guilty of abusing that monopoly.
"Of course the problem is how to protect companies like Real wants to compete with Apple and MS, on particular part of their OS. There are no good answers that treats everyone fairly."
Nothing is prefect not even the antitrust laws, but that's all we have. I think the vast majority of people here in
There is no google web office. However there is and has been for many years think free office. Contrary to your prediction it has not been adopted rapidly or widely despite being available over the web and despite being a decent product.
Admire? Who said anything about admire? Oh I see, you have nothing real to say so you argue against something nobody said. How is that working out for you?
Windows does not support 128 processors.
"rtificial? as opposed to what? are there business structures that are not artificial? they grow in the forest?"
They are artificial and yet they have full rights as a human being. A corporation which is not alive, has no soul but has more rights then my dog. That's an abomination. It's a travesty of law and justice.
"where do you get the idea that corporations are created to shirk responsibility"
Corporations are designed to shirk responsibility. To protect the assets of individuals and to shield them from their decisions. That's their core value.
"why are corporations immoral at the core? "
A corporation has only one code, to make more money. If a corporation at any point decides to act morally or ethically it can be sued by shareholders for not trying to maximize their profit. Morality is not about making money, in fact Jesus claims love of money is the root of all evil. Corporations are immoral because they only love money and nothing else.
"what do you propose?"
For starter let's strip the rights of corporations so that they have less rights then my dog. Then let's weaken the corporate shield (or veil as they call it) drastically so that shareholders and CEOs can be held personally responsible for the actions of their corporations.
"i'd also like to remind you that this website you seem to be enjoying is run by and owned by an "evil corporation""
that's right, so what? Does that make it any less greedy?
"Which just goes to show you--once a scientific "fact" has been established, our attachment to it becomes as dogmatic as any theological notion..."
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Religious dogma hasn't changed in 2000 fucking years. Science may be slower to change but it does change. Your comparison of scientific orthodoxy to religious dogma is just just pure and unadulterated bullshit. It's like saying there is no difference between shaquille O'Neil and the empire state building because they are both tall.
You do realize that there are people who still think the earth was created in six days right? You compare a fundie who believes that the earth is 3000 years old to a scientist who still thinks dark matter exists? What the fuck kind of an idiot are you?
Every major distro uses GNOME as the default desktop, with other including KDE as an option. So it seems like GNOME has been settled as the default one true desktop for linux.
If you like KDE it's there as an option and you are free to use it but you really have no cause to complain about missing tools. You have chosen to use a desktop which the distro maintainers do not support as the default.
I don't get people. On the one had they complain about too many choices on the other they complain when they choose something that is not the default.
The innovation in rails was to take the database as the authoritive source and have the code adapt dynamically to changes in the database. In most ORM layers the XML descriptor is the authoritive source.
If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then David Heinemeier Hansson must be blushing right now. His framework has insipired every other language proponent to make a rails like framework. There is trails in java, django in python (and now turbogears), there are at least two PHP frameworks and even a .NET one. I think somehow David touched a nerve someplace and produced something really beautiful.
.NET people are resorting to code generation to try and mimic some of the functionality of rails.
Much of what makes rails great is the highly dynamic nature of Ruby itself. Do yourself a favor and read the activerecord source code. Even if you don't know ruby it's an interesting lesson on how to take advantage of dynamic scripting languages. I am sure python and PHP could also do something like this but the Java and
To me it seems like a silly exercise to replicate rails in python or what have you. Ruby is easy to pick up and a nice language to boot. Why bother really? Just learn ruby and get on board.