Covenants not sue are not contracts. They could change their mind at any time. See SCO.
They could also get somebody else to do the suing again see SCO.
Finally people who have trusted MS and taken them at their word have usually gotten screwed with a can of crunchy peanut butter see dozens of companies now out of business.
I think you all are missing an important point. It's not that MS has promised not sue Novell, it's that they have promised not to use novell customers.
MS knows they can't sue debian or even ubuntu because there is no money there and distros can pop up overnight. They are planning a series of lawsuits on corporations who use linux. They are banking on the fact that if they sue a handful of smaller companies that use linux then they can stop widespread adoption of linux.
Aside from that they are getting tired of being blackmailed by linux. Imagine this scenario.
MS: We think you have been stealing software, we are going to perform an Audit. Customer: If you do I will switch to linux. MS: If you do we will sue you because linux infringes on MS patents and Novell admits to this facts.
Go to budgetgraph.com. There you will learn that the NASA budget is 16 billion. The iraq war is costing us 10 BILLION EVERY MONTH. The iran war is going to cost even more.
A long time ago the air in los angeles was barely breathable.
After a long and hard struggle by pinko, fag, granola, hippie, environmentalists the govt was convinced to put into place strict emission standards for cars, factories and other smog and pollution emitting devices.
All throughout this struggle the business people, the republicans, the liberterians, and others of their ilk fought, mocked, yelled, screamed, bitched and moaned. They spent billions fighting the pinko, fag, granola, hippie, commie environmentalist.
Thank god they lost. Thank god the people of california saw through their stupidity and insisted on cleaner air standards. Now the air in los angeles is breathable again.
We are from the govt and we are here to help indeed. It worked wonderfully.
"I've not always been on Microsoft's side in this argument, but I've seen a pattern: Microsoft, since the DOJ debacle, *appear* to be making an honest effort to do the Right Thing. They also appear to be getting pretty good at figuring out what the Right Thing is. I'm wondering why the rest of the world doesn't see this."
Because other people don't see the same pattern. We see the same old MS doing the same old things while hyping their "we are the new good guys" image. It's all talk and no action.
For evidence I will point at the Novell deal and the promise by Ballmer to sue linus USERS unless they used Suse. Does that seem like a company doing the right thing to you?
I would not call it "more featureful" I would rather use "differently featureful". Mysql has lots of features postgres doesn't including a cluster table type, case insensitive collation, multi master replication (over a WAN!), etc. It takes an average person five minutes or less to set up mysql replication, compare that to slony for example.
"An admin utility (no, phpmyadmin doesn't count for crap) that doesn't suck. Please, just take pgadmin and make it connect to mysql. PLEASE. MySQL Administrator and MySQL Query Browser work very poorly."
Try sqlyog. It's free and it kicks the ass of pgadmin any day.
Oh in that case you are a sucker and a fool. Only the stupid believe in personal responsibility, the smart form corporations so they can shirk personal responsibility.
I get it. You are a heartless bastard. You believe that the smart should exploit the stupid, the strong should rape the weak etc. That explains why you are shilling for the RIAA.
That's true. At the same time musicians are exploited on every level every day by music companies who are armed to the teeth with lawyers and lobbyists ready to pounce on the naive and gullable young people.
Keep pretending it's an even playing ground if you want.
1) Musicians do get ripped off by the record companies. They complain about this all the time. How many musicians have died penniless despite the fact they have numerous number one hits in and are considered vastly influencial? Too many to name.
2) Your right to profit from your work is supposed to be for a limited time. DRM makes that permanent. That's against the constitution. People who implement DRM should be arrested for that reason alone.
Bingo. I certainly have never worked for any CIO which possessed those wonderful qualities in the summary. They tend to be accountants by and large and are usually pretty ignorant of technology.
I have never seen a more rude, impolite, asshole group then people who steal photoshop and then bitch at gimp users because it's not photoshop. They are truly the worst scum of the planet and I can certainly emphasize with any programmer who wants to choke them to death.
A while back they had a logo contest and one entry was "it's free so quit your bitching". I wish they would have adopted that.
Anyway there is no way a bunch of programmers who give you free software can be compared to photoshop users. One are angels, the other scum.
What do you mean "decent" cmyk support? Do you mean there is no support or that the support is lacking in some way. If the latter could you be specific.
Always remember that open source only works when YOU contribute and sorry but whining does not count as contributing.
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Probably because MS did and does pay people to post favorible comments about them here and elsewhere (including wikipeadia).
Besides who would shill for a corporation without getting paid? You don't see me posting about how great mazdas are at a forum about BMWs do you?
Covenants not sue are not contracts. They could change their mind at any time. See SCO.
They could also get somebody else to do the suing again see SCO.
Finally people who have trusted MS and taken them at their word have usually gotten screwed with a can of crunchy peanut butter see dozens of companies now out of business.
The trial was in a scientology town, the judge was a scientologist.
I think you all are missing an important point. It's not that MS has promised not sue Novell, it's that they have promised not to use novell customers.
MS knows they can't sue debian or even ubuntu because there is no money there and distros can pop up overnight. They are planning a series of lawsuits on corporations who use linux. They are banking on the fact that if they sue a handful of smaller companies that use linux then they can stop widespread adoption of linux.
Aside from that they are getting tired of being blackmailed by linux. Imagine this scenario.
MS: We think you have been stealing software, we are going to perform an Audit.
Customer: If you do I will switch to linux.
MS: If you do we will sue you because linux infringes on MS patents and Novell admits to this facts.
See?
"Microsoft wants gamers to abandon the PC as a gaming platform and go to the 360. "
If that was true they would not be coming out with directX 10 and making it vista only.
Yea sorry. Should have provided the link myself. Too lazy I guess.
Go to budgetgraph.com. There you will learn that the NASA budget is 16 billion. The iraq war is costing us 10 BILLION EVERY MONTH. The iran war is going to cost even more.
That has got to be one of the dumbest posts every on slashdot and that's saying a lot.
As long as they can get the sucker western world to subsidize the pirating in the third world they have it sweet.
A long time ago the air in los angeles was barely breathable.
After a long and hard struggle by pinko, fag, granola, hippie, environmentalists the govt was convinced to put into place strict emission standards for cars, factories and other smog and pollution emitting devices.
All throughout this struggle the business people, the republicans, the liberterians, and others of their ilk fought, mocked, yelled, screamed, bitched and moaned. They spent billions fighting the pinko, fag, granola, hippie, commie environmentalist.
Thank god they lost. Thank god the people of california saw through their stupidity and insisted on cleaner air standards. Now the air in los angeles is breathable again.
We are from the govt and we are here to help indeed. It worked wonderfully.
"I've not always been on Microsoft's side in this argument, but I've seen a pattern: Microsoft, since the DOJ debacle, *appear* to be making an honest effort to do the Right Thing. They also appear to be getting pretty good at figuring out what the Right Thing is. I'm wondering why the rest of the world doesn't see this."
Because other people don't see the same pattern. We see the same old MS doing the same old things while hyping their "we are the new good guys" image. It's all talk and no action.
For evidence I will point at the Novell deal and the promise by Ballmer to sue linus USERS unless they used Suse. Does that seem like a company doing the right thing to you?
I would not call it "more featureful" I would rather use "differently featureful". Mysql has lots of features postgres doesn't including a cluster table type, case insensitive collation, multi master replication (over a WAN!), etc. It takes an average person five minutes or less to set up mysql replication, compare that to slony for example.
"An admin utility (no, phpmyadmin doesn't count for crap) that doesn't suck. Please, just take pgadmin and make it connect to mysql. PLEASE. MySQL Administrator and MySQL Query Browser work very poorly."
Try sqlyog. It's free and it kicks the ass of pgadmin any day.
Oh in that case you are a sucker and a fool. Only the stupid believe in personal responsibility, the smart form corporations so they can shirk personal responsibility.
I get it. You are a heartless bastard. You believe that the smart should exploit the stupid, the strong should rape the weak etc. That explains why you are shilling for the RIAA.
That's true. At the same time musicians are exploited on every level every day by music companies who are armed to the teeth with lawyers and lobbyists ready to pounce on the naive and gullable young people.
Keep pretending it's an even playing ground if you want.
1) Musicians do get ripped off by the record companies. They complain about this all the time. How many musicians have died penniless despite the fact they have numerous number one hits in and are considered vastly influencial? Too many to name.
2) Your right to profit from your work is supposed to be for a limited time. DRM makes that permanent. That's against the constitution. People who implement DRM should be arrested for that reason alone.
"I've called them in all hours of the day and night to activate windows. It took like 30 seconds."
Good boy. MS thanks you for being a good boy and jumping though their hoops.
Bingo. I certainly have never worked for any CIO which possessed those wonderful qualities in the summary. They tend to be accountants by and large and are usually pretty ignorant of technology.
Given that for some unfathomable reason nobody is willing to fix the SMTP spec once and for all I am shocked every sysop is not running a teergrube.
Oh and thanks MS for destroying SPF by refusing to implement it and pushing your own stupid crap instead.
Finally here is a suggestion on how we can cure all this. Refuse email from any SMTP message that comes from windows. Voila spambots are declawed.
I guess it all depends on what he defines as an error.
I have never seen a more rude, impolite, asshole group then people who steal photoshop and then bitch at gimp users because it's not photoshop. They are truly the worst scum of the planet and I can certainly emphasize with any programmer who wants to choke them to death.
A while back they had a logo contest and one entry was "it's free so quit your bitching". I wish they would have adopted that.
Anyway there is no way a bunch of programmers who give you free software can be compared to photoshop users. One are angels, the other scum.
What do you mean "decent" cmyk support? Do you mean there is no support or that the support is lacking in some way. If the latter could you be specific.
Always remember that open source only works when YOU contribute and sorry but whining does not count as contributing.
Yes but you were the only one that got his panties in a wad about the $. Really grow up. Why do you care so much about m$ anyway?
Why do you care if some random person is spreading FUD about a product made by some corporation?
I honestly want to know why any human being anywhere would care whether somebody was lying about an MS product.