I am going to do a trial here. I am going to hand out pre-configured knoppix disks to certain users and see how much it freaks them out. They are "power users" who have volunteered to participate.
In the end I don't think handing out disks is a suitable solution but it's ideal for remote users. For the local users I am also going to try netboot and X sessions using nomachine.
If my experiments pan out I think managing hundreds of linux desktops will be a no brainer. IT will definately be an improvement over what we are doing now with the windows desktops.
"Without copyright, there would be virtually no creation. The only artists and creative people doing any work would be those sponsored by corporations who sell physical things, those who are independently wealthy, and those who have other means of supporting themselves. The only produced would be part time amateur works. The professional artist would fade away."
Nonsense. Copyright is a relatively new invention of mankind and creation has gone on for thousands of years.
"If copyright didn't exist then the GPL (and pretty much any other use or distribution license) would be unenforceable. That is, the limitations imposed by the GPL in terms of distribution would not stand. So anyone could anything with your code."
That's exactly what stallman would love to achieve. The GPL is a hack of the copyright. As long as copyrights exist the GPL is a thorn on the side of the powers that be.
If copyrights didn't exist (at least in terms of software) the world of software would be very different. I for one think it would be much better then what we have today.
People have always done so and will continue to do so in the future. I for one don't consider it stealing from the rich, I consider it stealing from the Mob.
The reason most people don't feel guilty about "stealing" music is that they have been ripped off by the music industry and consider it getting back at them.
I manage both windows servers and linux servers. I can tell you from experience that linux servers are easier to manage. On a mass deployment like a corporate environment linux desktops would also be easier to manage.
We are not talking about your l33t games here. We are talking about a govt or corporate desktop.
Nice theory but won't work. A lot of that money goes for highways, farm subsidies, logging subsidies, fire fighting, etc.
States like iowa, montana, wyoming etc just don't have the kind of money it takes to take care of their own farmers and roads.
Can you imagine a presidential candidate saying that they are going to cut off farming and ethenol subsidies? They would lose in a landslide. Too many people are on the govt dole and they won't stand for it if you take it away from them.
"I don't pay for police in another city, I pay for police in my city."
I would pick a nit with this. Some states like CA and NY pay out more in federal taxes then they get back. Other states like MT and WY get more in federal money then they pay out. They are truly the "welfare states".
I know we are talking about state taxes here and I definately agree with you but if you added all the money Arizona took from it's own taxpayers it may not be sufficient to maintain a vast, mostly empty, rural state like AZ. Chances are very good that the kind people in NY and other more densely populated and more presporous states are indeed paying for your police or fire dept not to mention your highways.
I don't know about blogging but I love delicious. First of all with the foxylicious plug in to firefox I can have access to my bookmarks anywhere. Secondly I always find facinating things people have bookmarked. Sometimes I look up one of my own categories, other times I just type in a random word and see what people thought was valuable enough to bookmark.
If you haven't used foxylicous then you are not taking full advantage of delicious.
"Our grandfathers took apart their houses. We take apart our computers."
Yes but look at how much the US has changed since then. During the lifespan of your grandfather there was a global war against terror, homosexuals could not marry or join the military, and evolution was being litigated in the courts.
Of course, I hear there is a tremendous amount of grass roots love for MS. They are all over slashdot telling the world how much linux is teh sux and how MS r0x0rs. I think it's wonderful how this loyal community has sprung up around the idea that MS should make lots of money. Is there a more idealistic or desirable goal in life? I think not!.
Bush put in the so called tax cuts which were a giveaway to the richest of the rich (some people call you the elite I call you my base). Let's just undo it.
Same with corporate welfare. Let's just un-pass all those laws, let's stop the subsidies.
We don't have to counteract anything, we can undo the injustice.
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" In other news, open source fanatics dislike Microsoft."
No exactly. Everybody dislikes microsoft the open source fanatics are doing something about it.
How much was the IBM server? Maybe you could have bought two xserves for the price of the IBM server.
BTW those service contracts that promise 4 hour turnaround times are only good in big cities. If you live outside of a major metropolitan area they only promise to ship things to you overnight.
I have news for you. We are already a socialist state. Ever hear of social security, veterans benefits, farm subsidies, logging subsidies, medicate, medicaid, free education, state collages, etc?
He is a republican, he is not interested in presenting the whole truth and then having a rational discussion about it. He just wants to make sure "Hitlery" as they like to call her never becomes president.
" Sorry, but what competitors to VB6 does the OSS community have?"
Python with wxwindows is excellent. There are lots of gui builders for wxwindows and some IDEs to make it easy for ya. I for one think click and drag programming especially the kind built into VB6 is an abomination. It makes for messy code that is hard to maintain and soon degenerates into a mess of spghetti. I also need not mentions the awful error handling of VB do I. It's better to use something like wxwindows or swing that are true MVC frameworks. Even if it takes you longer to code it up front you will save time later in the debugging and maintenance portions of your lifecycle.
If you really want clicky programming there is also rekall for database work and dabo if you want something that mimics foxpro.
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I am going to do a trial here. I am going to hand out pre-configured knoppix disks to certain users and see how much it freaks them out. They are "power users" who have volunteered to participate.
In the end I don't think handing out disks is a suitable solution but it's ideal for remote users. For the local users I am also going to try netboot and X sessions using nomachine.
If my experiments pan out I think managing hundreds of linux desktops will be a no brainer. IT will definately be an improvement over what we are doing now with the windows desktops.
"Without copyright, there would be virtually no creation. The only artists and creative people doing any work would be those sponsored by corporations who sell physical things, those who are independently wealthy, and those who have other means of supporting themselves. The only produced would be part time amateur works. The professional artist would fade away."
Nonsense. Copyright is a relatively new invention of mankind and creation has gone on for thousands of years.
"If copyright didn't exist then the GPL (and pretty much any other use or distribution license) would be unenforceable. That is, the limitations imposed by the GPL in terms of distribution would not stand. So anyone could anything with your code."
That's exactly what stallman would love to achieve. The GPL is a hack of the copyright. As long as copyrights exist the GPL is a thorn on the side of the powers that be.
If copyrights didn't exist (at least in terms of software) the world of software would be very different. I for one think it would be much better then what we have today.
"Why sould you distinguish between the two?"
People have always done so and will continue to do so in the future. I for one don't consider it stealing from the rich, I consider it stealing from the Mob.
The reason most people don't feel guilty about "stealing" music is that they have been ripped off by the music industry and consider it getting back at them.
Like it or not that's the attitude.
I manage both windows servers and linux servers. I can tell you from experience that linux servers are easier to manage. On a mass deployment like a corporate environment linux desktops would also be easier to manage.
We are not talking about your l33t games here. We are talking about a govt or corporate desktop.
Bullshit.
Most of the money goes to highways and farm, ranch, logging, mining subsidies and fire fighting.
Nice theory but won't work. A lot of that money goes for highways, farm subsidies, logging subsidies, fire fighting, etc.
States like iowa, montana, wyoming etc just don't have the kind of money it takes to take care of their own farmers and roads.
Can you imagine a presidential candidate saying that they are going to cut off farming and ethenol subsidies? They would lose in a landslide. Too many people are on the govt dole and they won't stand for it if you take it away from them.
"I don't pay for police in another city, I pay for police in my city."
I would pick a nit with this. Some states like CA and NY pay out more in federal taxes then they get back. Other states like MT and WY get more in federal money then they pay out. They are truly the "welfare states".
I know we are talking about state taxes here and I definately agree with you but if you added all the money Arizona took from it's own taxpayers it may not be sufficient to maintain a vast, mostly empty, rural state like AZ. Chances are very good that the kind people in NY and other more densely populated and more presporous states are indeed paying for your police or fire dept not to mention your highways.
I don't know about blogging but I love delicious. First of all with the foxylicious plug in to firefox I can have access to my bookmarks anywhere. Secondly I always find facinating things people have bookmarked. Sometimes I look up one of my own categories, other times I just type in a random word and see what people thought was valuable enough to bookmark.
If you haven't used foxylicous then you are not taking full advantage of delicious.
"Our grandfathers took apart their houses. We take apart our computers."
Yes but look at how much the US has changed since then. During the lifespan of your grandfather there was a global war against terror, homosexuals could not marry or join the military, and evolution was being litigated in the courts.
Er um never mind.
So does Arizona tax you for income you earned in NY?
Of course, I hear there is a tremendous amount of grass roots love for MS. They are all over slashdot telling the world how much linux is teh sux and how MS r0x0rs. I think it's wonderful how this loyal community has sprung up around the idea that MS should make lots of money. Is there a more idealistic or desirable goal in life? I think not!.
I meant more like writing software that kicks ass. I understand that some people only bitch on slashdot though.
I guess even that's better then doing nothing or worse yet defending MS.
You are wrong.
Bush put in the so called tax cuts which were a giveaway to the richest of the rich (some people call you the elite I call you my base). Let's just undo it.
Same with corporate welfare. Let's just un-pass all those laws, let's stop the subsidies.
We don't have to counteract anything, we can undo the injustice.
" In other news, open source fanatics dislike Microsoft."
No exactly. Everybody dislikes microsoft the open source fanatics are doing something about it.
How much was the IBM server? Maybe you could have bought two xserves for the price of the IBM server.
BTW those service contracts that promise 4 hour turnaround times are only good in big cities. If you live outside of a major metropolitan area they only promise to ship things to you overnight.
"how about making a movie of clips from dvd's, and then burning to your own dvd with menus?"
That's hardly the job of the operating system.
Right now the money is being taken from the middle class and given to the rich. Why is that OK with you?
I have news for you. We are already a socialist state. Ever hear of social security, veterans benefits, farm subsidies, logging subsidies, medicate, medicaid, free education, state collages, etc?
He is a republican, he is not interested in presenting the whole truth and then having a rational discussion about it. He just wants to make sure "Hitlery" as they like to call her never becomes president.
If I had mod points and if I could give them to one post, I would give them all to yours.
" Sorry, but what competitors to VB6 does the OSS community have?"
Python with wxwindows is excellent. There are lots of gui builders for wxwindows and some IDEs to make it easy for ya. I for one think click and drag programming especially the kind built into VB6 is an abomination. It makes for messy code that is hard to maintain and soon degenerates into a mess of spghetti. I also need not mentions the awful error handling of VB do I. It's better to use something like wxwindows or swing that are true MVC frameworks. Even if it takes you longer to code it up front you will save time later in the debugging and maintenance portions of your lifecycle.
If you really want clicky programming there is also rekall for database work and dabo if you want something that mimics foxpro.
"At all costs. What else is there?"
Security, stability, cost, ease of use, ease of deployment, freedom from vendor lock, ethics. Those are a few just off the top of my head.
" Yes, it is sheer hypocrisy. But war is sporadic and localized"
I might agree with localized but it's hardly sporadic. Every day someplace in the world there is a war going on.
Aren't there French of european companies that can do something like this? SAP? Seibel? Mandrake?
I would think there would be at least one company in Europe that is capable of doing something like this and I bet they would love the contract.