Everybody should strive to have no debt. Live within your means and you won't worry about overconsuming. I drive an old car, I could afford a new one if I wanted to but I won't buy another one until I can pay for it with cash.
The problem is that most people live above what they could afford.
"I still don't understand where your objection is to hiring people who desperately need money."
I have no objection to hiring desparate people. Note however that your mythical company did not hire these people. I am sure every homeless person would love nothing better then to be offered a job and some benefits so they can feed their families and put a roof over their head. Instead your mythical company preferred to pick them up at the street corner and drop them off at the end of the day.
Why?
If they paid them the same and geve them the same benefits and covered them under the same unsurance why not hire them? There must be a reason to pick up homeless people and drop them off when your regular employees come to the work site on their own?
Think about it. Think hard. There must be some advantage to your mythical company to pick up day laborers and not offer them jobs.
Like I said I don't believe you for one second that a construction company would pay a day laborer the same pay or offer them the same benefits. Normally they pick up illegals and homeless so they can pay them below minimum wage and because they don't have to offer them insurance if they get hurt.
It's also clear you hate unions and don't really understand what they are about. Unions are there to protect the employees. This means striking when you feel they are threatened and trying preventing employees from hiring non union employees.
"Here, we try to help them come off the streets so that they can take care of themselves."
If that's the way you want to define the word "exploitation" then suit yourself.
Here let me convey to you a conversation that happend to me.
"You mexican?" Nope "Puerto Rican?" Nope "Well what are ye then?" (Me getting frustrated) "Eskimo!" "Shit I thought them eskimos was white!"
As for "so many people wanting to move there" unless you live in Florida I'd say not too many. Tell me when your population gets close to NY, NJ, CA, or IL and then I'll believe you.
Look I am not saying you are not nice, maybe you are but my experience has been that people in the south treat you according to how you look and sound espcially in the small towns. I have walked into bars and stopped all conversation. Yes it actually happened.
I don't know where you live but the absolute worst place was Oklahoma. I wouldn't live there again no matter what you offered me. What a shithole, redneck, stifling state that one is.
That's not true. Look at what happened with tuna. The mere presense of the words "dolphin safe" changed the tuna industry. The consumers when choosing to buy the product chose the one that was more ethical. All you need to do is to lable the product as being more ethical and people will choose it.
The idea that you would pay homeless people to work at a construction site with full insurance coverage and the same pay as regular employees is ridiculus. You are lying plain and simple.
Oh and unions that don't strike are not looking out for their members. Unions that don't object to non union people working in their shops are not looking out for their members.
"I didn't say there were not unions. They're here, they just don't obstruct things the way they do elsewhere."
So you have unions but they don't look out for the welfare of their union members.
"I didn't say people weren't paid decent salary. They're paid whatever the fair wage is for whatever work they're doing."
So you pick up homeless people off the street and then pay them the same amount that you would pay one of your regular crew or a union member.
"But since you brought it up, what's wrong with employing the poor and desperate? They want work, so they're put to work. Where's the problem here?"
There is nothing wrong with "emplyoying" the poor. There is a lot wrong with picking them up for the day, paying them chicken shit, not providing them any benefits, not covering them under your accident policy and then discarding them at the end of the day when you are done with them.
"Read this as: It was the most expensive, overfeatured PC on the market, and no one wanted to buy it compared to the alternatives."
I was around back then and I can tell you that it did not cost more then a regular PC.
"(Nods) Yep, I knew uVAXes, they were awesome little boxes - for business purposes. Much tooo expensive for desktops in offices or homes compared to PCs."
It was a high profit machine. They could have cut the costs on it. Management blunder.
"And "running more software than DOS" doesn't count if that software wasn't the MS Office suite, even back then."
They had this thing called "all in one" which was out before office was even a thought in Bill Gates mind.
"but, people are pretty nice...southern friendly..."
My experience had been that the niceness of the southern people depends on what you look and sound like. If you look and sound like them then they are nice to you. If not then not so much.
A large influx of younger tech workers will probably turn those red states blue. It's already happening in Montana where the influx of people resulted in the election of a democratic governor and a 50/50 split in the state senate. Also states like new mexico and alabama were really close this year.
I have lived in both and country living sucks. You need to drive everywhere. The entire town shuts down at five so you have to blow your lunch hour doing business. Everybody knows your business all the time. No decent food unless you like hamburgers enough to eat them every day. More churches then bars and no nightclubs. NO culture to speak of. No art, no symphonies, no jazz, no concerts, no decent bookstores. No stores carry what you need and you have to order everything you can't get at the walmart. Rural folks are like the stepford nightmare. Everybody thinks alike, looks alike, talks alike, dresses alike, eat's alike and drinks alike. Nonstop conformity and boredom.
Rural living sucks. I hated every moment of it. If you want to get away from a big city at least go to a collage town. There you tend to have better food and at least some culture. You will have at least one collage radio station which will play music that is not top 40 or country. You are more likely to run into people who have open minds. Hell you might even run into a black person or god forbid a foreigner once in a while too.
Wow no labor unions in Georgia. Amazing. I guess it's great for the construction industry though. They can exploit the homeless and don't have to bother with paying them a decent salary or insurance or anything. You guys sure are lucky. When one of your construction guys loses a finger or an arm the company doesn't have to pay them shit. No insurance, no benefits, below minimum wages, what a great way to run your state.
You guys have found a great way to solve the homeless problem. COngratulations. I guess all those religious family values you guys are famous for don't conflict with exploitation of the poor and desparate for profit.
You are referring to the SunOfOld. That sun does not exist anymore. That Sun was also a dominant force in the world of computing. It was also a very successful and respected company.
that sun does not exist anymore. Now you have sun run by jokers (some of whom were with the old sun) who are flailing around trying to grab on to something that might make them money while watching MS and Linux eath their lunch. This sun has executives who write the most assinine things imaginable on their blogs and give press conferences where they display their reality distortion field to the public.
Even though they had fantastic engineers DEC was run by morons. When the PCs (Z80 based CPM ones) were gaining popularity DEC had a PC with both a 8080 and a Z80. This machine could run DOS and CP/M. It had high resolution color, it had a 132 column screen with smooth scrolling, it had built in VT100 emulation. It was the best PC on the market and they could not sell it.
Very soon after that they shrunk the PDP-11 into a desktop machine. A sixteen bit PC with thousands of applications running on it. It had HUGE (for the time) storage both hard disks and floppies. Oh and get this it had a GUI straight out of Xerox Parc. With menus and resizable windows and everything!. They could not sell it.
Very soon after that they came out with the micro-vax. This was a minicomputer on your desk. Way more powerful then any PC on the market and it ran more software then DOS. They could not sell it.
Then they came out with the alpha chip. A screamingly fast 64 bit machine in a tower case that destroyed any PC in terms of performance. They could not sell it.
How a company can create one fantastic product after another and still get it's ass kicked like a 90 pound weakling is beyond me. I can only attribute to the incompetence of people like Ken Olsen and his top level staff.
By all rights Digital should have ruled the desktop.
if you want to know what the name is set to currently then just hostname with no parameters.
If you are running OSX server then you use the
serversetup --setCOmputerName computername
Don't ever muck with the files directly unless you know what you are doing. If you mess with the/etc/hostname the system will revert it back to what it was when you reboot. A lot of those files get regenerated everytime you touch the gui too.
In the Mac there is a command line for everything. Just download the PDF and search it.
It's been described as "like grep if it was bitten by a radioactive spider". In a nutshell it allows you do define sliding windows and search for phrases inside those windows.
Most americans are programmed to consume. They can't seem to resist getting into huge debt. It's an excellent way to control the population. Remember what Bush said after 9/11? "Shop for your freedom"
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Another sign read "Introducing longhorn" with the Mac logo on it. I thought it was funny then but now I see it was prophetic.
As usual MS is using apple as an R&D dept. As usual Apple will beat them to the punch.
What I want to know is how MS developers sleep at night.
Everybody should strive to have no debt. Live within your means and you won't worry about overconsuming. I drive an old car, I could afford a new one if I wanted to but I won't buy another one until I can pay for it with cash.
The problem is that most people live above what they could afford.
"I still don't understand where your objection is to hiring people who desperately need money."
I have no objection to hiring desparate people. Note however that your mythical company did not hire these people. I am sure every homeless person would love nothing better then to be offered a job and some benefits so they can feed their families and put a roof over their head. Instead your mythical company preferred to pick them up at the street corner and drop them off at the end of the day.
Why?
If they paid them the same and geve them the same benefits and covered them under the same unsurance why not hire them? There must be a reason to pick up homeless people and drop them off when your regular employees come to the work site on their own?
Think about it. Think hard. There must be some advantage to your mythical company to pick up day laborers and not offer them jobs.
Like I said I don't believe you for one second that a construction company would pay a day laborer the same pay or offer them the same benefits. Normally they pick up illegals and homeless so they can pay them below minimum wage and because they don't have to offer them insurance if they get hurt.
It's also clear you hate unions and don't really understand what they are about. Unions are there to protect the employees. This means striking when you feel they are threatened and trying preventing employees from hiring non union employees.
"Here, we try to help them come off the streets so that they can take care of themselves."
If that's the way you want to define the word "exploitation" then suit yourself.
We don't care about kindness and respect. Just obey our will and give us any natural resources we need. Otherwise just shut up and sit down... Bitch.
"The remarkable think is that in this case it occurred without any underhanded tactics from MS, "
Well except for paying for skewed studies from Gartner that is.
It makes the internet faster!
Where I work Dell is never mentioned by name. The phrase is "the company that rhymes with hell".
Here let me convey to you a conversation that happend to me.
"You mexican?"
Nope
"Puerto Rican?"
Nope
"Well what are ye then?"
(Me getting frustrated) "Eskimo!"
"Shit I thought them eskimos was white!"
As for "so many people wanting to move there" unless you live in Florida I'd say not too many. Tell me when your population gets close to NY, NJ, CA, or IL and then I'll believe you.
Look I am not saying you are not nice, maybe you are but my experience has been that people in the south treat you according to how you look and sound espcially in the small towns. I have walked into bars and stopped all conversation. Yes it actually happened.
I don't know where you live but the absolute worst place was Oklahoma. I wouldn't live there again no matter what you offered me. What a shithole, redneck, stifling state that one is.
That's not true. Look at what happened with tuna. The mere presense of the words "dolphin safe" changed the tuna industry. The consumers when choosing to buy the product chose the one that was more ethical. All you need to do is to lable the product as being more ethical and people will choose it.
I don't believe one word you are saying. Not one.
The idea that you would pay homeless people to work at a construction site with full insurance coverage and the same pay as regular employees is ridiculus. You are lying plain and simple.
Oh and unions that don't strike are not looking out for their members. Unions that don't object to non union people working in their shops are not looking out for their members.
If some dude at your company pirates windows does the BSA audit the entire company and extract money from them.
I am speaking about real life experience. You need me to list the actual things that happened to me?
Back then IBM PC was not entrenched. DEC had a real shot at being the leader. They blew it.
"I didn't say there were not unions. They're here, they just don't obstruct things the way they do elsewhere."
So you have unions but they don't look out for the welfare of their union members.
"I didn't say people weren't paid decent salary. They're paid whatever the fair wage is for whatever work they're doing."
So you pick up homeless people off the street and then pay them the same amount that you would pay one of your regular crew or a union member.
"But since you brought it up, what's wrong with employing the poor and desperate? They want work, so they're put to work. Where's the problem here?"
There is nothing wrong with "emplyoying" the poor. There is a lot wrong with picking them up for the day, paying them chicken shit, not providing them any benefits, not covering them under your accident policy and then discarding them at the end of the day when you are done with them.
"Read this as: It was the most expensive, overfeatured PC on the market, and no one wanted to buy it compared to the alternatives."
I was around back then and I can tell you that it did not cost more then a regular PC.
"(Nods) Yep, I knew uVAXes, they were awesome little boxes - for business purposes. Much tooo expensive for desktops in offices or homes compared to PCs."
It was a high profit machine. They could have cut the costs on it. Management blunder.
"And "running more software than DOS" doesn't count if that software wasn't the MS Office suite, even back then."
They had this thing called "all in one" which was out before office was even a thought in Bill Gates mind.
"but, people are pretty nice...southern friendly..."
My experience had been that the niceness of the southern people depends on what you look and sound like. If you look and sound like them then they are nice to you. If not then not so much.
Take a look at some indian reservations in the southwest and north west. There you will see third world conditions.
A large influx of younger tech workers will probably turn those red states blue. It's already happening in Montana where the influx of people resulted in the election of a democratic governor and a 50/50 split in the state senate. Also states like new mexico and alabama were really close this year.
I have lived in both and country living sucks. You need to drive everywhere. The entire town shuts down at five so you have to blow your lunch hour doing business. Everybody knows your business all the time. No decent food unless you like hamburgers enough to eat them every day. More churches then bars and no nightclubs. NO culture to speak of. No art, no symphonies, no jazz, no concerts, no decent bookstores. No stores carry what you need and you have to order everything you can't get at the walmart. Rural folks are like the stepford nightmare. Everybody thinks alike, looks alike, talks alike, dresses alike, eat's alike and drinks alike. Nonstop conformity and boredom.
Rural living sucks. I hated every moment of it. If you want to get away from a big city at least go to a collage town. There you tend to have better food and at least some culture. You will have at least one collage radio station which will play music that is not top 40 or country. You are more likely to run into people who have open minds. Hell you might even run into a black person or god forbid a foreigner once in a while too.
Wow no labor unions in Georgia. Amazing. I guess it's great for the construction industry though. They can exploit the homeless and don't have to bother with paying them a decent salary or insurance or anything. You guys sure are lucky. When one of your construction guys loses a finger or an arm the company doesn't have to pay them shit. No insurance, no benefits, below minimum wages, what a great way to run your state.
You guys have found a great way to solve the homeless problem. COngratulations. I guess all those religious family values you guys are famous for don't conflict with exploitation of the poor and desparate for profit.
You are referring to the SunOfOld. That sun does not exist anymore. That Sun was also a dominant force in the world of computing. It was also a very successful and respected company.
that sun does not exist anymore. Now you have sun run by jokers (some of whom were with the old sun) who are flailing around trying to grab on to something that might make them money while watching MS and Linux eath their lunch. This sun has executives who write the most assinine things imaginable on their blogs and give press conferences where they display their reality distortion field to the public.
May god have mercy on their souls.
Even though they had fantastic engineers DEC was run by morons. When the PCs (Z80 based CPM ones) were gaining popularity DEC had a PC with both a 8080 and a Z80. This machine could run DOS and CP/M. It had high resolution color, it had a 132 column screen with smooth scrolling, it had built in VT100 emulation. It was the best PC on the market and they could not sell it.
Very soon after that they shrunk the PDP-11 into a desktop machine. A sixteen bit PC with thousands of applications running on it. It had HUGE (for the time) storage both hard disks and floppies. Oh and get this it had a GUI straight out of Xerox Parc. With menus and resizable windows and everything!. They could not sell it.
Very soon after that they came out with the micro-vax. This was a minicomputer on your desk. Way more powerful then any PC on the market and it ran more software then DOS. They could not sell it.
Then they came out with the alpha chip. A screamingly fast 64 bit machine in a tower case that destroyed any PC in terms of performance. They could not sell it.
How a company can create one fantastic product after another and still get it's ass kicked like a 90 pound weakling is beyond me. I can only attribute to the incompetence of people like Ken Olsen and his top level staff.
By all rights Digital should have ruled the desktop.
hostname name_of_your_host
/etc/hostname the system will revert it back to what it was when you reboot. A lot of those files get regenerated everytime you touch the gui too.
if you want to know what the name is set to currently then just hostname with no parameters.
If you are running OSX server then you use the
serversetup --setCOmputerName computername
Don't ever muck with the files directly unless you know what you are doing. If you mess with the
In the Mac there is a command line for everything. Just download the PDF and search it.
Use CRM114 Instead of grep.
It's been described as "like grep if it was bitten by a radioactive spider". In a nutshell it allows you do define sliding windows and search for phrases inside those windows.
It's way cool.
Most americans are programmed to consume. They can't seem to resist getting into huge debt. It's an excellent way to control the population. Remember what Bush said after 9/11? "Shop for your freedom"