"Anyone actually going to war wants it to be as unfair, as brutal, and as lopsided as possible. War is not a fucking soccer match."
That's the problem isn't it though. I say why don't we look into building a nation that does not need to go war every four or five years. That might save more money and lives right there.
I tend to piss a lot of people off. That's probably because I tend to look at things in a rather odd way a lot of times. This seems to rub people the wrong way. I can't explain it really, I just think the universe is a lot different then what most people think. I find that I can't even agree on the nature of truth with people sometimes. It turns out that truth is pretty damned malleable, people can't seem to be able to cope with that.
First of all MS deserves bashing. They are a sleazy, unethical corporation run by slimy people. It's just a company for fucks sake, bash them all you like folks, it's not like a human being or anything.
Anyway if you read the post you are replying to he was blaming the management. I just thought I would point out your straw man.
They could do what apple did and leech off of the freebsd developers but somehow I don't think they will. There are too many egos tied up in windows. It would be a humuliation to both gates and balmer.
I have a hundred ideas every day. It's easy to come up with ideas. The hard work is in trying to figure out if the idea is feasable, gathering resources, manufacturing, marketing, etc.
Your system would allow anybody with an idea to instantly stop anybody who is actually trying to accomplish something by working. It rewards the people who sit on their ass all day and type their goofy ideas into a web site hoping somebody actually tries to make something some day.
That's the problem with patents. It punish people trying to accomplish something. It punishes doers.
"i don't care what happens to him. he picked the wrong side."
Unfortunately many americans feel like you do. They have lost their all common sense. "I don't care what happens to him" justifies all kinds of torture and evil.
I do have one question for you though. How do you know? How do you know if anything they say about this guy is true? How do you even know if he exists or not? Do you even care? I suspect not. All somebody has to do is to say is that he is a terrorist and you believe it.
Unfortunately there are too many americans like you.
One thing we are finding out is that wars of occupation are really expensive. If Bush was to invade europe it would be very expensive. Another thing is that the American public will react different when you are killing white christians rather then brown muslims. It will be much harder to convince americans that it will be necessary to kill white christians.
I guess in order for this to be effective Europe will have to boycott. If africa, south america, or any other country full of darkies did it then yes we could probably invade them.
I am presuming the chinese won't boycott anything, I think we are playing into their hands with this war. They are going to be holding more and more of our debt and they are happy to see an administration willing to go deeply into debt.
This is the govt admitting that ideas are the most dangerous things in the world. THis guy is (supposedly) disseminating knowledge and ideas. We can't have that.
"Also, I find it odd that this alleged hacker chose a moniker that would sound more familiar to Republican voters than to someone who would wholeheartedly reject Western ideals (ie: your average terrorist)."
The worst thing is that we will never know what actually happened, what this guy did, how he did it, why he did it.
There will not be a trial, the guy will be shipped off to some godforsaken place and be held forever under who knows what kinds of aweful conditions getting regular "pressure" from the CIA or the egyptian intelligence or whatever.
It's sick what has happened to our country. It's really really sick and aweful. The worst thing is that nobody really cares. Everybody will simply accept what the press and the president tells them. For all we know this could just be some high school student who thinks he is l33t. The president will call him a terrorists and the public will just buy it without any further evidence. We will never know.
"The real fun starts when this administration hands over all this newly asserted power to the next one -- equally likely to be a liberal democrat or a moderate republican."
I really don't think so. Bush will start a war with iran or syria or north korea in the run up to the election. Either that or Osama will be caught just before the election. Either way the next president and congress will be controlled by the republicans. California has already been rigged thanks to diebold.
WHat could anybody do? Well the way I see it the only thing the rest of the world could do is to stop buying our products. They can't wage a military war and win but they can boycott our products and win. A boycott will force the corporations which finance this govt to pressure them to change their behavior. Bush doesn't care what a million protesters think but he cares what the CEO of the chamber of commerce thinks.
The founding fathers had this concept of checks and balances. Theoretically the three branches of govt and the press (the fourth estate) was supposed to keep each other honest.
What they didn't forsee was that the two party system would put party loyalty above the love of country, the devotion to the constitution and anything else. This congress will never impeach or sanction this president even though he clearly has overstepped his bounds and has comitted felonies becuase they care more about the republican party then the country. The courts have been stacked with republicans and they too will not check the president or the congress. Their loyalties lie with their political party not with the law of the land.
We are witnessing nothing less then the death of the american experiment. You will get to tell your grandchildren about it if you are allowed to talk about this time period at all.
WHich begs the question why were the republicans so facinated with where bill clinton stuck his cock into? I mean to take the president of the united states and ask him if he stuck his cock into monicas cunt or mouth is kind of gross don't you think?
Anyway lying about the whereabouts your cock is very bad, lying about weapons of mass desctruction and then waging war based on that lie is no problem at all. Then continually lying about the war once it's started is fine too. Lying about wiretaps is OK, bypassing the FISA courts is fine, making people disapear is fine, torturing is OK as long as you redefine torture to be "things we do are not torture".
Lying about a blowjob that's impeachable.
"We are tearing ourselves apart. "
Sorry clinton was 100 times better then bush. Yes he made some mistakes but they were no where near as bad as Bush.
Yes we are tearing ourselves apart, if you ask me the left is not being nearly hard enough with the right. The right has been raping the democrats for over a decade now and yet they still bend over whenever a republican whips out their cock to fuck them in the ass. It's time they fought back for real.
Yes the above post is harsh, and yes I am pissed off. Give me back my country you evil motherfuckers.
Lots of people? How many people need professional graphics tools AND professional mathematical tools? When you say lots what does it mean? 10? 20? 100? Let's talk about percentages. What percentage of the users of computers need BOTH mathematica AND photoshop?
"We might as well freeze all software development."
The tools the soccer moms and the office worker need are nowhere near "finished". There is a lot of work left and that's where we should concentrate our efforts. Not the.0001% of the population that needs both mathematica and photoshop.
"Do you think the people that choose to pay for Excel are stupid, or do you think perhaps they know something you don't about the wisdom of sweating a few hundred dollars when dealing with the productivity of an employee costing a hundred thousand?"
People use excel because their corporation chose it for them. Your argument that other spreadsheets hinder productivity is unfounded. Certainly there hasn't been any studies done on the matter.
"I hope they do it because it's fun. "
It's not really that much fun when your userbase pisses on you every chance they get. Alas that's the way photoshop users are. Their number one hobby is to shit on open source developers every chance they get. They berate them on forums, they hassle them on IRC, they fill the mailing lists with their bile. They really are some of the most ungrateful and rude people on the planet.
"Does it help society to have TWO parallel developments of MS Word, just so that a company can save %0.1 of it's budget?"
To a corporation there is nothing worse then vendor lock. There is nothing worse then being dependent on a vendor to read and archive your own documents. It's not just about money.
So you are using these fine software thanks to the taxpayers. That's fine I guess, enjoy them while you can.
"There is no adequate substitute for MATLAB, Mathematica or Photoshop/Illustrator in OSS. "
I guess it depends on what you mean by "adequate". Certainly there is an "adequate" subsitute for photoshop if your needs are not "professional".
In any case though you are talking about a TINY percentage of computer users here. How many people need matlab, mathemetica AND photoshop? I would say no professional needs all three of those in their job. Some professionals need one or the other. SOme of those application run on linux. You may hate the linux versions of those but maybe other people are not as picky as you and can make use of them just fine. I just don't think it's worthwile for open source developers to try and deliver free versions of very expensive software when the userbase for that software is such a small percentage of the population. Their efforts are better spent on office software, browsers, email clients and servers etc which virtually all people use. Let's be realistic here. You will not be happy with anything that does not completely mimic photoshop, down to the smallest detail. Even if GIMP developers dedicated the next five years to replicating photoshop down to the smallest detail you would still be here whining about how it was two miliseconds slower or that the toolbar icon was two pixels offset to the right.
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't think there is anything any open source developer can do to make you and people like you happy. Why even try?
Anyway this whole topic is a bit of a canadard isn't it? I mean if a corporation makes a linux version of a software but you don't like it then talk to the corporation. What do you think Linus or anybody on slashdot can do about it? You are the customer, you complain to the company, if they ignore their customers then what can anybody else do about it?
microsoft spends hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising every year. If a publication wrote anything less then worshipful articles about MS then those advertising dollars would go elsewhere.
You made the assertion, it's up to you to prove it. So all you have to do is to prove that socialism and fascism are the same thing. I am still waiting my republitard.
i should state at the beginning that I will not accept any "proof" from the right wing fundamentalist sources your type exclusively listens to. I am afraid I am going to have to insist that you actually turn the channel or better yet turn off the old radio or tv.
"Of course you do. It's so much easier than actually trying to make cogent points to support your position."
My position is that you are republitard. Your position is that there is no difference between socialism and fascims.
My position is easy to prove, all somebody has to do is to read your post and they will immediately realize your republitard zealotry. I haven't seen anything from you proving that socialism and fascims are the same thing though.
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"Anyone actually going to war wants it to be as unfair, as brutal, and as lopsided as possible. War is not a fucking soccer match."
That's the problem isn't it though. I say why don't we look into building a nation that does not need to go war every four or five years. That might save more money and lives right there.
I tend to piss a lot of people off. That's probably because I tend to look at things in a rather odd way a lot of times. This seems to rub people the wrong way. I can't explain it really, I just think the universe is a lot different then what most people think. I find that I can't even agree on the nature of truth with people sometimes. It turns out that truth is pretty damned malleable, people can't seem to be able to cope with that.
Don't you think the american shareholders would punish MS for hiring a french CEO? Remember that most MS shareholders are probably republican.
First of all MS deserves bashing. They are a sleazy, unethical corporation run by slimy people. It's just a company for fucks sake, bash them all you like folks, it's not like a human being or anything.
Anyway if you read the post you are replying to he was blaming the management. I just thought I would point out your straw man.
They could do what apple did and leech off of the freebsd developers but somehow I don't think they will. There are too many egos tied up in windows. It would be a humuliation to both gates and balmer.
I have a hundred ideas every day. It's easy to come up with ideas. The hard work is in trying to figure out if the idea is feasable, gathering resources, manufacturing, marketing, etc.
Your system would allow anybody with an idea to instantly stop anybody who is actually trying to accomplish something by working. It rewards the people who sit on their ass all day and type their goofy ideas into a web site hoping somebody actually tries to make something some day.
That's the problem with patents. It punish people trying to accomplish something. It punishes doers.
All humans are animals. What's your point?
"i don't care what happens to him. he picked the wrong side."
Unfortunately many americans feel like you do. They have lost their all common sense. "I don't care what happens to him" justifies all kinds of torture and evil.
I do have one question for you though. How do you know? How do you know if anything they say about this guy is true? How do you even know if he exists or not? Do you even care? I suspect not. All somebody has to do is to say is that he is a terrorist and you believe it.
Unfortunately there are too many americans like you.
One thing we are finding out is that wars of occupation are really expensive. If Bush was to invade europe it would be very expensive. Another thing is that the American public will react different when you are killing white christians rather then brown muslims. It will be much harder to convince americans that it will be necessary to kill white christians.
I guess in order for this to be effective Europe will have to boycott. If africa, south america, or any other country full of darkies did it then yes we could probably invade them.
I am presuming the chinese won't boycott anything, I think we are playing into their hands with this war. They are going to be holding more and more of our debt and they are happy to see an administration willing to go deeply into debt.
This is the govt admitting that ideas are the most dangerous things in the world. THis guy is (supposedly) disseminating knowledge and ideas. We can't have that.
"Also, I find it odd that this alleged hacker chose a moniker that would sound more familiar to Republican voters than to someone who would wholeheartedly reject Western ideals (ie: your average terrorist)."
The worst thing is that we will never know what actually happened, what this guy did, how he did it, why he did it.
There will not be a trial, the guy will be shipped off to some godforsaken place and be held forever under who knows what kinds of aweful conditions getting regular "pressure" from the CIA or the egyptian intelligence or whatever.
It's sick what has happened to our country. It's really really sick and aweful. The worst thing is that nobody really cares. Everybody will simply accept what the press and the president tells them. For all we know this could just be some high school student who thinks he is l33t. The president will call him a terrorists and the public will just buy it without any further evidence. We will never know.
"The real fun starts when this administration hands over all this newly asserted power to the next one -- equally likely to be a liberal democrat or a moderate republican."
I really don't think so. Bush will start a war with iran or syria or north korea in the run up to the election. Either that or Osama will be caught just before the election. Either way the next president and congress will be controlled by the republicans. California has already been rigged thanks to diebold.
WHat could anybody do? Well the way I see it the only thing the rest of the world could do is to stop buying our products. They can't wage a military war and win but they can boycott our products and win. A boycott will force the corporations which finance this govt to pressure them to change their behavior. Bush doesn't care what a million protesters think but he cares what the CEO of the chamber of commerce thinks.
The founding fathers had this concept of checks and balances. Theoretically the three branches of govt and the press (the fourth estate) was supposed to keep each other honest.
What they didn't forsee was that the two party system would put party loyalty above the love of country, the devotion to the constitution and anything else. This congress will never impeach or sanction this president even though he clearly has overstepped his bounds and has comitted felonies becuase they care more about the republican party then the country. The courts have been stacked with republicans and they too will not check the president or the congress. Their loyalties lie with their political party not with the law of the land.
We are witnessing nothing less then the death of the american experiment. You will get to tell your grandchildren about it if you are allowed to talk about this time period at all.
WHich begs the question why were the republicans so facinated with where bill clinton stuck his cock into? I mean to take the president of the united states and ask him if he stuck his cock into monicas cunt or mouth is kind of gross don't you think?
Anyway lying about the whereabouts your cock is very bad, lying about weapons of mass desctruction and then waging war based on that lie is no problem at all. Then continually lying about the war once it's started is fine too. Lying about wiretaps is OK, bypassing the FISA courts is fine, making people disapear is fine, torturing is OK as long as you redefine torture to be "things we do are not torture".
Lying about a blowjob that's impeachable.
"We are tearing ourselves apart. "
Sorry clinton was 100 times better then bush. Yes he made some mistakes but they were no where near as bad as Bush.
Yes we are tearing ourselves apart, if you ask me the left is not being nearly hard enough with the right. The right has been raping the democrats for over a decade now and yet they still bend over whenever a republican whips out their cock to fuck them in the ass. It's time they fought back for real.
Yes the above post is harsh, and yes I am pissed off. Give me back my country you evil motherfuckers.
Here is my top 10.
Finder, Finder, Finder, Finder, Finder, Finder, Finder, Finder, Dock, Remote Desktop.
In that order.
"Lots of people. "
.0001% of the population that needs both mathematica and photoshop.
Lots of people? How many people need professional graphics tools AND professional mathematical tools? When you say lots what does it mean? 10? 20? 100? Let's talk about percentages. What percentage of the users of computers need BOTH mathematica AND photoshop?
"We might as well freeze all software development."
The tools the soccer moms and the office worker need are nowhere near "finished". There is a lot of work left and that's where we should concentrate our efforts. Not the
"Do you think the people that choose to pay for Excel are stupid, or do you think perhaps they know something you don't about the wisdom of sweating a few hundred dollars when dealing with the productivity of an employee costing a hundred thousand?"
People use excel because their corporation chose it for them. Your argument that other spreadsheets hinder productivity is unfounded. Certainly there hasn't been any studies done on the matter.
"I hope they do it because it's fun. "
It's not really that much fun when your userbase pisses on you every chance they get. Alas that's the way photoshop users are. Their number one hobby is to shit on open source developers every chance they get. They berate them on forums, they hassle them on IRC, they fill the mailing lists with their bile. They really are some of the most ungrateful and rude people on the planet.
"Does it help society to have TWO parallel developments of MS Word, just so that a company can save %0.1 of it's budget?"
To a corporation there is nothing worse then vendor lock. There is nothing worse then being dependent on a vendor to read and archive your own documents. It's not just about money.
"Academic site licenses."
So you are using these fine software thanks to the taxpayers. That's fine I guess, enjoy them while you can.
"There is no adequate substitute for MATLAB, Mathematica or Photoshop/Illustrator in OSS. "
I guess it depends on what you mean by "adequate". Certainly there is an "adequate" subsitute for photoshop if your needs are not "professional".
In any case though you are talking about a TINY percentage of computer users here. How many people need matlab, mathemetica AND photoshop? I would say no professional needs all three of those in their job. Some professionals need one or the other. SOme of those application run on linux. You may hate the linux versions of those but maybe other people are not as picky as you and can make use of them just fine. I just don't think it's worthwile for open source developers to try and deliver free versions of very expensive software when the userbase for that software is such a small percentage of the population. Their efforts are better spent on office software, browsers, email clients and servers etc which virtually all people use. Let's be realistic here. You will not be happy with anything that does not completely mimic photoshop, down to the smallest detail. Even if GIMP developers dedicated the next five years to replicating photoshop down to the smallest detail you would still be here whining about how it was two miliseconds slower or that the toolbar icon was two pixels offset to the right.
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't think there is anything any open source developer can do to make you and people like you happy. Why even try?
Anyway this whole topic is a bit of a canadard isn't it? I mean if a corporation makes a linux version of a software but you don't like it then talk to the corporation. What do you think Linus or anybody on slashdot can do about it? You are the customer, you complain to the company, if they ignore their customers then what can anybody else do about it?
Man you must be rich. YOu can afford photoshop, matlab, and mathematica.
I tried to download the beta but it won't run on my OS.
Interesting that the UI is the only thing you are looking forward to though.
microsoft spends hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising every year. If a publication wrote anything less then worshipful articles about MS then those advertising dollars would go elsewhere.
What particular features of office 2007 were you looking forward to?
You forgot this one.
No because no salesperson came by from open office and gave them a rolex/airplane tickets/golf clubs.
You made the assertion, it's up to you to prove it. So all you have to do is to prove that socialism and fascism are the same thing. I am still waiting my republitard.
i should state at the beginning that I will not accept any "proof" from the right wing fundamentalist sources your type exclusively listens to. I am afraid I am going to have to insist that you actually turn the channel or better yet turn off the old radio or tv.
"A fascist is a socialist. "
Well you keep repeating this mantra much like an autistic would repeat a meaninless phrase over and over again.
Just prove it that's all.
"Of course you do. It's so much easier than actually trying to make cogent points to support your position."
My position is that you are republitard. Your position is that there is no difference between socialism and fascims.
My position is easy to prove, all somebody has to do is to read your post and they will immediately realize your republitard zealotry. I haven't seen anything from you proving that socialism and fascims are the same thing though.