To say X is 12 years behind the times is a lil contradictory.
It works, people are glad with it - I for one.
And well done you Microsoft-Lovers that is how MS repays you all: TCPA
Just give me time:)
Is it difficult? Is it complex?
I just emailed an accountant main client of mine.
Been doing lil apps/webapps/macros for him for ages.
But I have no knowledge (at all) of tax software, what they do, how it works... and I am personally terrible with money (no wonder I am so dangerously in debt).
Should I do it GPL, should I make it proprietory?
I mean, I wouldn't feel guilty receiving money from bankers, solicitors and accountants:)
I need a lead, I will wait for his email
But the app will be UK version - (do they change much?).
Message me with ideas, if you want, I am serious.
The only thing stopping me from doing it - if its way highly complex (for one person to make).
Hope it works out cos I love doing real apps and this one will be in Linux (way too cool).
No disrespect.
But it figures now why such difference of opinions.
MFC's, API's all Microsoft technology, which changes ever so rapidly DOS->API->ATL->MFC->ActiveX->COM+->.NET->Whitdbey( ?).. [something like that, not an expert here]
so any accumulated experience just goes down the drain.
No disrespect seriously, but that is why I started hating Microsoft, because it didn't matter what I've learnt and specialized in, they would move to something else and "Oh sorry you don't know our latest crappy DNA++ technology? Can't hire you".
Even macro VBA code changes entirely each version!
It's like playing catch.
Bet it's done purposely to churn out more books, courses, software, processors, etc..
Now it *seems* at least with Linux and ANSI C++, experience does matter, 10 or 12 years matters a lot. Someone that programmed 12 years ago in X windows, would still be able to do something now. But a Microsoft developer of 12 years ago? Mmm.. definitely not
I totally disagree
At least in my experience, I found the more experienced the programmer, the more "humble" the guy.
Not humble with silent pretense and am "better-than-thou attitude"
Humble cos anyone in programming and software design knows that it hardly ever becomes easy.
Programming is and will always be a very hard subject to master
On the other hand,
I've never met such arrogant plonks as new programmers.
It figures, I mean the less you know - the more you think you know.
I just joined Safari, didn't like it.
Yeah, there is a silent pressure for you to read the books otherwise you're losing money.
At first it feels great - whooah! - look how many technologies I am going to learn!.. but then pressure mounts in...
I found a much better way to read e-books for free.
It's called P2P
I must be aging, fancy not downloading pr0n but Tcl/Tk manuals instead! (someone shoot me please?)
Oui?
Ah.. very well - i will let the sucoeurs download and do more testing for me:)
Oh and while you are at it - make sure you have silver membership! hahaha
(and I thought only windowze people were true sucoeurs, how silly of me!)
the director of lindows (forgot this name)
clearly provoked Microsoft non-stop
with give us ur "Windows copy and we give you a lindows OS for free" - and many press articles covering this and more(?).
Now i dunno MS is a big big nasty bully.
Even though I appreciate the brave attitude of LINDOWS and all - its not wise fighting when you are going to lose so soon. I honestly dont think (or believe) Lindows would be forced to surrender its name hadn't it been for them firing the shots first. And having to change ones name to an air refreshner - Man that is utter humiliation.
Look for this article on
Learning to program with Javascript -.
I haven't read the article, but since HTML -> leads to Javascript.. it might be an interesting step.
Or good luck with Revolution - I was thinking of inspecting it more - shame it's proprietary with 30 days trial.
Can't make apps for other OS'es
And I never compiled a.NET app, but what if a Windows 98 person doesnt have the framework installed?
Also web-forms are crap - stay well clear of them! Try and rendering a calendar control on a NETSCAPE hehe.. doesnt work!
I just use my own XML/XSLT instead...
I program in C# but really dont like it:(
It's just ahm... too ugly methinks.. (still searching for a better language - shame couldn't get Eiffel.NET to work)
PS: I am glad this is/. cos if this was angrycoder I would get boo-ed just for mentioning Windows 98!!! (but not their latest stuff)
I tried learning Eiffel.
Really liked the concept, its not that hard.
And definitely much prettier/neater than the grotesque C# (which am not proud to admit is the language I program in most)
Eiffel code is heavily based on structured English, ok it won't go as far as Revolution whose syntax is 100% English.
Eiffel code is very object-orientated but not as bizarre as Smalltalk which vows to be easy but most people finds it the opposite.
Eiffel seems to produce very safe code, because of contracts.. so, of what I understood, you are force to debug/test each time you write a new class and function. If your project finishes - your app should be incredibly stable - so no more BugBuddies or CrashHandlers:)
Eiffel's code seems like documentation, because of the tags.
Real shame I couldn't play with it more - but seriously, it's just a hunch, Eiffel is a very powerful language. And for many things it can make a difference... Java, C# and C++ (specially) just begs for crashing apps.
Mimicking is art
Good for the soul
Anyway tis VERY wrong to criticize these guys work
Again YOU dont have to download it!
But I dont care about a few zitty geeks, I care about the masses. And ANYTHING that might bridge the gap of them jumping on top of Linux - is a boner (oops).
My boss is lazy, my boss gets infected with viruses, loses stuff, everything. But just like moving from FrontPage to Dreamweaver.. he finds it too intimidating to swap his XP to Linux. Stuff like XPde (which I've been following before) - is kinda fun and might entice ppl like him.
I mean looks like XPde is a threat here, when maybe its my naivity I see it more like a plaything. Did we get flamers when ppl did FVWM95's and MS-Windows Themes? It's all about freedom of exercise and fun.
Seems like FEAR is prevalent on both sides of the field.
But hate the BUGS.
On Windows XP it would crash.
So I phone tech support they told me I should download the patches...
Mmmm OK
So I did
And it crashed just the same!
So I phone tech support they told me I should
and BUY version 12 (and ditch 10) - as clearly it breaks with XP...
Mmmm OK
So I did
I downloaded the Trial..
And it crashed just the same!
So I didn't phone tech support...
I think that was the time switching to Linux...
I installed Corel 10 on Win4Lin
And it works
Brilliantly - no crash so far (used it extensively):)
Mind you - it does crash on Wine, but then again 70% of apps do.
I like the VBA scripting in Corel Draw.
I can do wonders..
I know GIMP is supposed to have something similar, but what do I know of Python/Perl and Tcl?? Still too technical for lil me:(
Funny isn't it anyone can call Windowse Crapose.. but SUSE?? (Nein! Nein! )
A system that is expensive and breaks, and doesn't provide support for Sound (which Lo! And Behold! - doesn't work properly anyway) .. and want your $$$ for helping you out having a try with the Desktop (given the install on the laptop fail and the desktop install failed even more miserably) is... In My Most Humble Opinion...
F E T I D !!
---
Dunno About Mandrake 10, I tried it didn't work as well. So will wait for the "real" version.
Nevertheless am Happy here with 9.2.. Bliss!
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To say X is 12 years behind the times is a lil contradictory.
...
.. etc), more knowlegeable and happier.
It works, people are glad with it - I for one.
And well done you Microsoft-Lovers that is how MS repays you all: TCPA
True that there are ppl who feels X should evolve
I really wished I had known about Linux ages ago and not MS technologies
I am sure I would be more employable (Java,Oracle,Perl,Ansi C, VA Smalltalk
To have accumulated C#,MS Office VBA,ASP,Transact-SQL for me its nothing short of an embarrasment.
How do you know I suck on it? ;)
:)
Unlike you I have a finished webapp in the same server
Now suck this
Just give me time :)
... and I am personally terrible with money (no wonder I am so dangerously in debt).
:)
Is it difficult? Is it complex?
I just emailed an accountant main client of mine.
Been doing lil apps/webapps/macros for him for ages.
But I have no knowledge (at all) of tax software, what they do, how it works
Should I do it GPL, should I make it proprietory?
I mean, I wouldn't feel guilty receiving money from bankers, solicitors and accountants
I need a lead, I will wait for his email
But the app will be UK version - (do they change much?).
Message me with ideas, if you want, I am serious.
The only thing stopping me from doing it - if its way highly complex (for one person to make).
Hope it works out cos I love doing real apps and this one will be in Linux (way too cool).
"So why why why do people actually like Apple?"
... beautiful ... sexy ... but a right-down-nasty evil bitch.
I don't Apple is just like that sexy beautiful bitch (ppl fantasize about)
No disrespect.
( ?) .. [something like that, not an expert here]
..
.. definitely not
But it figures now why such difference of opinions.
MFC's, API's all Microsoft technology, which changes ever so rapidly DOS->API->ATL->MFC->ActiveX->COM+->.NET->Whitdbey
so any accumulated experience just goes down the drain.
No disrespect seriously, but that is why I started hating Microsoft, because it didn't matter what I've learnt and specialized in, they would move to something else and "Oh sorry you don't know our latest crappy DNA++ technology? Can't hire you".
Even macro VBA code changes entirely each version!
It's like playing catch.
Bet it's done purposely to churn out more books, courses, software, processors, etc
Now it *seems* at least with Linux and ANSI C++, experience does matter, 10 or 12 years matters a lot.
Someone that programmed 12 years ago in X windows, would still be able to do something now. But a Microsoft developer of 12 years ago? Mmm
I totally disagree
At least in my experience, I found the more experienced the programmer, the more "humble" the guy.
Not humble with silent pretense and am "better-than-thou attitude"
Humble cos anyone in programming and software design knows that it hardly ever becomes easy.
Programming is and will always be a very hard subject to master
On the other hand, I've never met such arrogant plonks as new programmers.
It figures, I mean the less you know - the more you think you know.
It is called Freudian Slip
You better watch out - or you will go blind!
Now on a general note. What LINDOWS should have done.
How SILLY OF THEM to have over-looked such Golden Opportunity:.
* Invite the general public to a competition for a new name, so the whole thing would work for his own favour: PR and all! *
Maybe he is looking at too much hardcode too!
I just joined Safari, didn't like it. .. but then pressure mounts in ...
Yeah, there is a silent pressure for you to read the books otherwise you're losing money.
At first it feels great - whooah! - look how many technologies I am going to learn!
I found a much better way to read e-books for free.
It's called P2P
I must be aging, fancy not downloading pr0n but Tcl/Tk manuals instead! (someone shoot me please?)
Oui? .. very well - i will let the sucoeurs download and do more testing for me :)
Ah
Oh and while you are at it - make sure you have silver membership! hahaha
(and I thought only windowze people were true sucoeurs, how silly of me!)
Should I learn JAVA or NOT? :(
I just bought The Bible
I know he loves writing to message boards :)
the director of lindows (forgot this name)
clearly provoked Microsoft non-stop
with give us ur "Windows copy and we give you a lindows OS for free" - and many press articles covering this and more(?).
Now i dunno MS is a big big nasty bully. Even though I appreciate the brave attitude of LINDOWS and all - its not wise fighting when you are going to lose so soon.
I honestly dont think (or believe) Lindows would be forced to surrender its name hadn't it been for them firing the shots first. And having to change ones name to an air refreshner - Man that is utter humiliation.
Luvelyyyy
HaHaHa!!
You sucoeurs !!
So looks like it I will be wetting for Mandrake versión 11 oui?
Vive La France!
Look for this article on Learning to program with Javascript -. .. it might be an interesting step.
I haven't read the article, but since HTML -> leads to Javascript
Or good luck with Revolution - I was thinking of inspecting it more - shame it's proprietary with 30 days trial.
HaHaHa!!
You sucoeur !!
Can't make apps for other OS'es .NET app, but what if a Windows 98 person doesnt have the framework installed?
.. doesnt work!
I just use my own XML/XSLT instead ...
:(
... too ugly methinks ..
/. cos if this was angrycoder I would get boo-ed just for mentioning Windows 98!!! (but not their latest stuff)
And I never compiled a
Also web-forms are crap - stay well clear of them!
Try and rendering a calendar control on a NETSCAPE hehe
I program in C# but really dont like it
It's just ahm
(still searching for a better language - shame couldn't get Eiffel.NET to work)
PS: I am glad this is
And I program in it.
I tried learning Eiffel.
.. so, of what I understood, you are force to debug/test each time you write a new class and function. If your project finishes - your app should be incredibly stable - so no more BugBuddies or CrashHandlers :)
... Java, C# and C++ (specially) just begs for crashing apps.
Really liked the concept, its not that hard.
And definitely much prettier/neater than the grotesque C# (which am not proud to admit is the language I program in most)
Eiffel code is heavily based on structured English, ok it won't go as far as Revolution whose syntax is 100% English.
Eiffel code is very object-orientated but not as bizarre as Smalltalk which vows to be easy but most people finds it the opposite.
Eiffel seems to produce very safe code, because of contracts
Eiffel's code seems like documentation, because of the tags.
Real shame I couldn't play with it more - but seriously, it's just a hunch, Eiffel is a very powerful language. And for many things it can make a difference
Mimicking is art
.. he finds it too intimidating to swap his XP to Linux.
Good for the soul
Anyway tis VERY wrong to criticize these guys work
Again YOU dont have to download it!
But I dont care about a few zitty geeks, I care about the masses. And ANYTHING that might bridge the gap of them jumping on top of Linux - is a boner (oops).
My boss is lazy, my boss gets infected with viruses, loses stuff, everything. But just like moving from FrontPage to Dreamweaver
Stuff like XPde (which I've been following before) - is kinda fun and might entice ppl like him.
I mean looks like XPde is a threat here, when maybe its my naivity I see it more like a plaything. Did we get flamers when ppl did FVWM95's and MS-Windows Themes? It's all about freedom of exercise and fun.
Seems like FEAR is prevalent on both sides of the field.
Where can I find it??
Is it stable enough??
But hate the BUGS. ...
...
..
...
:)
.. :(
On Windows XP it would crash.
So I phone tech support they told me I should download the patches
Mmmm OK
So I did
And it crashed just the same!
So I phone tech support they told me I should and BUY version 12 (and ditch 10) - as clearly it breaks with XP
Mmmm OK
So I did
I downloaded the Trial
And it crashed just the same!
So I didn't phone tech support
I think that was the time switching to Linux...
I installed Corel 10 on Win4Lin
And it works
Brilliantly - no crash so far (used it extensively)
Mind you - it does crash on Wine, but then again 70% of apps do.
I like the VBA scripting in Corel Draw.
I can do wonders
I know GIMP is supposed to have something similar, but what do I know of Python/Perl and Tcl?? Still too technical for lil me
About a year ago or more ... .. .. then suddenly a message:
..Here we go again - I thought but did not reply.
...
...
:)
Out of extreme boredom, I decided to reinstall ICQ
Noone online
Hiya we are two girls and we are bored. Would you like to give us company?
"We are two girls and we need company. We are new to this town. Would you like to see us?"
--> "Where you are from then?", I was stupid enough to ask
"We are two girls from South America. We are new to this town. We would like to go out. Take us out?"
--> Then I thought - "What an interesting piece of A.I technology"
They continued - "And please tell me - why are all you men so angry? They shout and say abuse! ":(
Turned out that every single person they've sent a message on ICQ - had either blocked them or told them to get lost, thinking they were "bots"
Ok Sorry
.. but SUSE?? (Nein! Nein! )
... ...
.. Bliss!
Crap was the wrong word.
FETID!! (is more appropriate)
Funny isn't it anyone can call Windowse Crapose
A system that is expensive and breaks, and doesn't provide support for Sound (which Lo! And Behold! - doesn't work properly anyway)
.. and want your $$$ for helping you out having a try with the Desktop (given the install on the laptop fail and the desktop install failed even more miserably) is
In My Most Humble Opinion
F E T I D !!
---
Dunno About Mandrake 10, I tried it didn't work as well. So will wait for the "real" version.
Nevertheless am Happy here with 9.2
Suse is crap seriously. :)
.. and kept it since.
No wonder I reinstalled Mandrake