Re:An indictment of the Python programming languag
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The Python Cookbook
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Aside from the point about lack of declaration of variables, you're points against Python all reduce down to syntax issues.
It's a good thing you posted AC. I wouldn't want to take credit for that dreck either.
Oh, and if Python were only two years old, then I wouldn't have been able to do the Python project I did for a client when I did.
Have you even used Python? I didn't think so. I guess that if you want to be cynical and condescending about a language just because you're a self-appointed language guru, then please go ahead. But I think we would all prefer that you keep your opinion under wraps until it is informed and rational.
By giving it away free, they've reduced the cost of running Windows by a lot.
Umm... maybe this is true for you. But let's face it, MS only ever gives away product as a prelude to 2 events: 1) bundling the product into the OS or Office 2) increasing market share via free product then charging that newly gained market share on the next go-around.
Do you honestly think you're going to get Windows for free once you're in the public work force?
On the plus side, Windows has become MUCH to operate in server environments and even on the desktop but, if the study is to be believed, it still has some room for improvement.
4. Rental queue. I can't keep a running list at BB with the movies I want to rent. I can't walk into a store and say give me the next one on my list. With Netflix when they get one back they send you the next one in your list, that day. Netflix is doing 2 day turn around. The day they get it, they ship the next one. In 2 days you have a new movie.
It may not look like it, but this is a Big Deal (tm). Netflix is a step beyond the normal rental places because of this. Just think about it: you're bs'ing with some colleagues over lunch and someone mentions a movie you've never heard of and how great it was (e.g. Harold and Maude). After lunch, you go back to your desk, log on to Netflix, find the movie, add it to your queue, and forget about it. When that movie comes up in your queue, you get it in the mail, and watch it. Sure beats writing it down on a post-it note, shlepping down to the video store, and asking some frazzled video clerk about a movie whose title they've never heard of. Good luck finding it in stock too.
I won't even go into how much money Netflix has saved us in late fees at the store.
Amen to that! I use the free version of AVG all the time, and it's done a nice job. It even plays well on my wife's older laptop. At 233Mhz, it doesn't have a lot of speed to spare. AVG hasn't caused problems even once yet.
Umm... you don't want to feed that sort of thing. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with lawyers, but if you make this sort of thing into mini-industry, when the music companies finally fold (or the lawsuits just run dry), the people within that new mini-industry will do what they already know best with some other target. We will have created a monster.
This is the sort of thing that 'karma' describes perfectly. Be careful what you wish for.
I'll second that. To tell you the truth, I'd never heard of her until she appeared on/. She may be world famous, but I guess this is just one more example of how the world keeps getting bigger in terms of the variety of material being offerred to the public. This is a good problem; even if it means excellent artists do not reach some of the people they should otherwise reach.
Re:What if the Author reads /.
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Well, maybe your mom was right. But reviews aren't "mean" in the spontaneous emotional sense. They're (supposed to be) a somewhat dispassionate dicourse on the material/event.
On that note, I always love reading negative reviews. I like them because you don't learn anything from good reviews. Good reviews are usually quick to gloss things over and give the reader this "just trust me *nudge* *wink*" kind of impression. Negative reviews are treasure trove of detailed expectations and how the subject missed meeting those expectations. If you're an artist/content developer, there is so much to be learned from negative reviews about how to do things right.
Of course, all of this describes a good review written by a good reviewer. Now, who's going to review the reviewers?:+)
and I can tell you that I wouldn't do it again. The programs are hard to use effectively as a casual user. I think I know what you're looking for. You're probably looking for a program that will help you assemble the house in an interactive fashion and then do a walkthrough of the plan in 3D including things like carpet colors, tile patterns, lighting, etc. Believe me, it's a huge pain in the ass! I actually wound up taking advantage of the vendor's money back guarantee. They were good for it too, though it's too bad! You will find your imagination to be a much better tool.
To be more specific, I was hoping the package would have more of a wizard type of approach that would walk me through the house room by room. Allow me to move things around a lot, etc. As it was, the program had me placing walls one section at a time, doors one by one, etc. I never even got around to finding out how to texture the floors, etc. It was just too painful for the amount of time I was willing to put into it (which, admittedly, wasn't much). Additionally, the 3D walkthrough was a beast to use, and slow to boot! I never even found out how to do a walkthrough of the interior of the house. I could only ever get the exterior view working, and it was nothing to write home about.
If you do decide to go with a package, make sure it fills your specific needs. What I mean here is that some of the packages were more oriented towards a builder. So they would help you with things like materials estimation, etc. That's great if you're doing your own general contracting. However, if you're like me, you just wanted to get a feel for the house before it was built. I didn't find a package that really helped with that (without a lot of pain that is).
If you're still curious, one of the better vendors is at http://www.punchsoftware.com/
Isn't that the truth?! Maybe I'm just odd, but the cable networks keep cancelling shows I like, and then they turn to publishing other dreck that I can't stand.
I hope you get modded through the floor. Not because you slam Bruce, but because your brain is obviously not engaged.
I don't know Bruce, but I think he gets a lot of credit for standing up for his values. He sees the value in open source, and he was willing to take a fall for that. Who are you to criticize him???
And by the way, the business world does care about *real* solutions: which is exactly why he was so useful to Pixar in the production of several films.
Please mod up the parent; if for no other reason than because it's true. Perl is a lot of things, but inherently "readable" is not one of them. Hell, my wife was able to read Python when I walked her through a small sample (she's not a programmer at all). I showed her some Perl and she didn't even want to hear. She said something about "why would anyone want to use that?".
BTW - QuaintRcky - I'm not able to imagine Python being able to do anything that Java can't also do. Python may make it more elegant (especially if you get into some fancy lambda stuff), but that's about it. No???
I think all of us have "memories" that we can't account for. The real question is whether those were somehow borne out of experience, or if those memories are the result of meaningful connections in the brain.
There's probably a ton of research on this stuff going either way in the debate. We'll probably never get to the point where we can demonstrate it definitively for the average person.
You may not (probably will not) be able to do those things when you retire. If your body isn't shot by then, you'll be among the lucky few. I bet you could get a very serious start on all of those items, except for maybe the first item.
If you wait to do these things, you may never get to do them. Besides, when you retire, do you think you'll still be interested in those things?
We're all here for a very limited period of time, so chop chop!
Oh, and stop stressing out about death. You don't remember the time before you were born do you? I didn't think so. So don't sweat it. What will be, will be.
Well, IANAPPU either. However, the companies that *have* bought into the Rational product line will see this as a good thing. Companies that have, or are going to, buy into Linux will see this as a *really* good thing. It's much easier to justify your use of a "fringe OS" (which is quickly become mainstream itself; that's the whole point) when mainstream products are available on it.
So, I think it's more symbolic than anything. Also, it keeps Rational more flexible in the marketplace.
IANAL, but even if that were possible, you still don't have a legal leg to stand on.
"Copyright" means the IP owner has rights over the situation under which a copy is made. Period. You don't get to circumvent that just because they used one copyrighted material to present another copyrighted material.
I would love this! I'm one of the clueless saps in Starcraft, Warcraft III, and other games. I keep my ass kicked, without really knowing why. I suppose it's a function of how much time you put into it, but it would still be nice to have some feedback. At least with chess, I can see what lines the computer would consider. With other games, I'm just screwed. (I'm generally screwed in chess too, see the above comment about time spent.:+)
Of course, implementing this in a user friendly fashion for something along the lines of your typical RTS/turn-based game would be a real challenge. It would really add to the game's logetivity though.
That would seem to leave something to be desired in the way of a tutorial.;+) Unless of course, the assembler is capable of adding intelligent commentary. Hmmph...
That's the whole point. It's simulating your presence with the assumption that if you were there that you would make the same mistakes (stupid or otherwise) that you would normally make.
If you just want to face off the AIs, that's a whole 'nuther story.
Hey, have fun! A really useful CMS is hard to build. I hope you've nailed down your requirements really well with your future users because that sucker is gonna snowball otherwise!
I would do myself a favor at this point though and go to.NET, if you have the option. Yeah, it's a learning curve, but since you're on the Microsoft wagon anyway, you'll be better off in the long run if you bite the bullet now.
I agree. If you think a CMS is the same as a blog, then consider the following questions:
1. Can the software support different media types and still keep all the material searchable?
2. Can the software support future media types, i.e. media types which are currently unknown? By support here, I mean store, retrieve, present, and make searchable.
3. Can the software support versioning of media items?
4. Can the software support multiple levels of security on media items?
blah blah blah...
A blog is just for text, and maybe some graphics. Try running a real company on just those.
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Aside from the point about lack of declaration of variables, you're points against Python all reduce down to syntax issues.
It's a good thing you posted AC. I wouldn't want to take credit for that dreck either.
Oh, and if Python were only two years old, then I wouldn't have been able to do the Python project I did for a client when I did.
Have you even used Python? I didn't think so. I guess that if you want to be cynical and condescending about a language just because you're a self-appointed language guru, then please go ahead. But I think we would all prefer that you keep your opinion under wraps until it is informed and rational.
By giving it away free, they've reduced the cost of running Windows by a lot.
Umm... maybe this is true for you. But let's face it, MS only ever gives away product as a prelude to 2 events: 1) bundling the product into the OS or Office 2) increasing market share via free product then charging that newly gained market share on the next go-around.
Do you honestly think you're going to get Windows for free once you're in the public work force?
On the plus side, Windows has become MUCH to operate in server environments and even on the desktop but, if the study is to be believed, it still has some room for improvement.
Perhaps health informatics is more focused and integrated. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the poster's program is necessarily random.
I wish I had mod points today..
4. Rental queue. I can't keep a running list at BB with the movies I want to rent. I can't walk into a store and say give me the next one on my list. With Netflix when they get one back they send you the next one in your list, that day. Netflix is doing 2 day turn around. The day they get it, they ship the next one. In 2 days you have a new movie.
It may not look like it, but this is a Big Deal (tm). Netflix is a step beyond the normal rental places because of this. Just think about it: you're bs'ing with some colleagues over lunch and someone mentions a movie you've never heard of and how great it was (e.g. Harold and Maude). After lunch, you go back to your desk, log on to Netflix, find the movie, add it to your queue, and forget about it. When that movie comes up in your queue, you get it in the mail, and watch it. Sure beats writing it down on a post-it note, shlepping down to the video store, and asking some frazzled video clerk about a movie whose title they've never heard of. Good luck finding it in stock too.
I won't even go into how much money Netflix has saved us in late fees at the store.
Don't believe me? Try it!
I've seen a lot of 'health informatics' degrees lately. Yours would just be a twist on that.
Amen to that! I use the free version of AVG all the time, and it's done a nice job. It even plays well on my wife's older laptop. At 233Mhz, it doesn't have a lot of speed to spare. AVG hasn't caused problems even once yet.
Umm... you don't want to feed that sort of thing. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with lawyers, but if you make this sort of thing into mini-industry, when the music companies finally fold (or the lawsuits just run dry), the people within that new mini-industry will do what they already know best with some other target. We will have created a monster.
This is the sort of thing that 'karma' describes perfectly. Be careful what you wish for.
Hey, Diddy Kong ROCKED! Don't make me come over there.
I'll second that. To tell you the truth, I'd never heard of her until she appeared on /. She may be world famous, but I guess this is just one more example of how the world keeps getting bigger in terms of the variety of material being offerred to the public. This is a good problem; even if it means excellent artists do not reach some of the people they should otherwise reach.
Well, maybe your mom was right. But reviews aren't "mean" in the spontaneous emotional sense. They're (supposed to be) a somewhat dispassionate dicourse on the material/event.
:+)
On that note, I always love reading negative reviews. I like them because you don't learn anything from good reviews. Good reviews are usually quick to gloss things over and give the reader this "just trust me *nudge* *wink*" kind of impression. Negative reviews are treasure trove of detailed expectations and how the subject missed meeting those expectations. If you're an artist/content developer, there is so much to be learned from negative reviews about how to do things right.
Of course, all of this describes a good review written by a good reviewer. Now, who's going to review the reviewers?
and I can tell you that I wouldn't do it again. The programs are hard to use effectively as a casual user. I think I know what you're looking for. You're probably looking for a program that will help you assemble the house in an interactive fashion and then do a walkthrough of the plan in 3D including things like carpet colors, tile patterns, lighting, etc. Believe me, it's a huge pain in the ass! I actually wound up taking advantage of the vendor's money back guarantee. They were good for it too, though it's too bad! You will find your imagination to be a much better tool.
To be more specific, I was hoping the package would have more of a wizard type of approach that would walk me through the house room by room. Allow me to move things around a lot, etc. As it was, the program had me placing walls one section at a time, doors one by one, etc. I never even got around to finding out how to texture the floors, etc. It was just too painful for the amount of time I was willing to put into it (which, admittedly, wasn't much). Additionally, the 3D walkthrough was a beast to use, and slow to boot! I never even found out how to do a walkthrough of the interior of the house. I could only ever get the exterior view working, and it was nothing to write home about.
If you do decide to go with a package, make sure it fills your specific needs. What I mean here is that some of the packages were more oriented towards a builder. So they would help you with things like materials estimation, etc. That's great if you're doing your own general contracting. However, if you're like me, you just wanted to get a feel for the house before it was built. I didn't find a package that really helped with that (without a lot of pain that is).
If you're still curious, one of the better vendors is at http://www.punchsoftware.com/
Good luck!
Isn't that the truth?! Maybe I'm just odd, but the cable networks keep cancelling shows I like, and then they turn to publishing other dreck that I can't stand.
*argh*
I hope you get modded through the floor. Not because you slam Bruce, but because your brain is obviously not engaged.
I don't know Bruce, but I think he gets a lot of credit for standing up for his values. He sees the value in open source, and he was willing to take a fall for that. Who are you to criticize him???
And by the way, the business world does care about *real* solutions: which is exactly why he was so useful to Pixar in the production of several films.
Seriously, did you even think before posting?!
Please mod up the parent; if for no other reason than because it's true. Perl is a lot of things, but inherently "readable" is not one of them. Hell, my wife was able to read Python when I walked her through a small sample (she's not a programmer at all). I showed her some Perl and she didn't even want to hear. She said something about "why would anyone want to use that?".
BTW - QuaintRcky - I'm not able to imagine Python being able to do anything that Java can't also do. Python may make it more elegant (especially if you get into some fancy lambda stuff), but that's about it. No???
I think all of us have "memories" that we can't account for. The real question is whether those were somehow borne out of experience, or if those memories are the result of meaningful connections in the brain.
There's probably a ton of research on this stuff going either way in the debate. We'll probably never get to the point where we can demonstrate it definitively for the average person.
Which pretty much leaves us where we started...
You may not (probably will not) be able to do those things when you retire. If your body isn't shot by then, you'll be among the lucky few. I bet you could get a very serious start on all of those items, except for maybe the first item.
If you wait to do these things, you may never get to do them. Besides, when you retire, do you think you'll still be interested in those things?
We're all here for a very limited period of time, so chop chop!
Oh, and stop stressing out about death. You don't remember the time before you were born do you? I didn't think so. So don't sweat it. What will be, will be.
So just be.
Well, IANAPPU either. However, the companies that *have* bought into the Rational product line will see this as a good thing. Companies that have, or are going to, buy into Linux will see this as a *really* good thing. It's much easier to justify your use of a "fringe OS" (which is quickly become mainstream itself; that's the whole point) when mainstream products are available on it.
So, I think it's more symbolic than anything. Also, it keeps Rational more flexible in the marketplace.
IANAL, but even if that were possible, you still don't have a legal leg to stand on.
"Copyright" means the IP owner has rights over the situation under which a copy is made. Period. You don't get to circumvent that just because they used one copyrighted material to present another copyrighted material.
Nice idea!!!
:+)
I would love this! I'm one of the clueless saps in Starcraft, Warcraft III, and other games. I keep my ass kicked, without really knowing why. I suppose it's a function of how much time you put into it, but it would still be nice to have some feedback. At least with chess, I can see what lines the computer would consider. With other games, I'm just screwed. (I'm generally screwed in chess too, see the above comment about time spent.
Of course, implementing this in a user friendly fashion for something along the lines of your typical RTS/turn-based game would be a real challenge. It would really add to the game's logetivity though.
That would seem to leave something to be desired in the way of a tutorial. ;+) Unless of course, the assembler is capable of adding intelligent commentary. Hmmph...
That's the whole point. It's simulating your presence with the assumption that if you were there that you would make the same mistakes (stupid or otherwise) that you would normally make.
If you just want to face off the AIs, that's a whole 'nuther story.
Be careful what you wish for.
Hey, have fun! A really useful CMS is hard to build. I hope you've nailed down your requirements really well with your future users because that sucker is gonna snowball otherwise!
.NET, if you have the option. Yeah, it's a learning curve, but since you're on the Microsoft wagon anyway, you'll be better off in the long run if you bite the bullet now.
I would do myself a favor at this point though and go to
Best of luck!
I agree. If you think a CMS is the same as a blog, then consider the following questions:
1. Can the software support different media types and still keep all the material searchable?
2. Can the software support future media types, i.e. media types which are currently unknown? By support here, I mean store, retrieve, present, and make searchable.
3. Can the software support versioning of media items?
4. Can the software support multiple levels of security on media items?
blah blah blah...
A blog is just for text, and maybe some graphics. Try running a real company on just those.
'Nuff said. See my other post on this Johnny.