Yeah, but that's on a much more abstract level. With kids, it's on the most literal level possible. At least when you cover an adult's eyes, they still realize that just because they can't see you doesn't mean you can't see them. And if you bring two adults into a room, hide an object, remove Adult A, and move the object to a new location, then ask Adult B where Adult A will look for the object, Adult B will realize that Adult A didn't see the object get moved and reply that A will look in the original location. Little kids very literally don't realize that other people can possess different knowledge than they do. well, you seem to be pretty intimate with the psychology domain and i cant really match that, i have no psychology training.
but still.
you posted very interesting and to-the-point samples, but something just doesnt feel right.
you mentioned a "more abstract level" at which the adults make the same mistake... but i would say this stuff is not related to the level of abstractization, education or age... i think the mistake has deeper roots, maybe as deep as the very basic instincts or the genetic code.
e.g... combining my statement and yours will result in a conclusion like "kids dont realize that others have different knowledge/feelings and adults dont really accept it"... so, pretty much everyone does it!
most adults never accept others with diff ideas, and even the most intelligent ppl have to control themselves pretty hard in order to accept the differences... the first/instinctive reaction when you hear someone with a different/oposite opinion is negative and no matter how well educated an adult, he will never completely accept ppl with different opinions.
i would say this is because some very basic "trigger" somewhere in our physiology or psycology... maybe connected with the reproductive instinct - e.g. the person with a diff opinion may be that "mutant" that will take over and end your gene-line and is automatically perceived as an adversary... so children dont know/dont care about differences because the reproductive instinct is still "sleepy" and adults dont accept diff ppl in order to protect their gene-line.
P.S.
dont know if my blabla made any sense or if i stated things that u knew for years... but this stuff sounds very interesting for me and i would thank you more than once if you can give me some related links/dokus.
They are also unclear on the division between themselves and other people - they think that everyone can see what they see, for instance, and knows what they are thinking or feeling to a certain extent and thinks/feels the same way. that is not only valid for children, the vast majority of ppl act like that.
how many of the ppl you know that truly understand that division and are capable of seeing the world through someone else's eyes?
most ppl are totally baffled when they see others with diff opinions/feeling, basically because they cant understand the "division" you mentioned... and that is no small matter, adults Kill people that think/feel different (think religious wars)
thank you for one of the best/. posts ever.
my whole life i found it very difficult to sustain any strong belief, precisely because of the contradictions you find on any thought-line that follows... and it's not easy, such a lack of strong beliefs generates a lot of mistrust between the ppl around u.
i also had the same problems you mentioned with the ppl with strong beliefs... pointing out some of their contradictions can put you in a lot of trouble... but it is so much fun... and at least from my experience, the stronger the beliefs, the more stupid/uninformed the person.
P.S.
does your professor have any online material, or could u at least post his name?
I think modding a post down as "overrated" would be well within the definition of what the term means, if I use it to mod down yet another "I'm against Google because they've got so much info, it makes them EVIL!" type of post. yours is far from being the worst sample of "opinion-moderation" but i still think it is not ok.
Look, Google got ALL of the info they have today VOLUNTARILY. Again, what happened to personal responsibility here? If you're that worried/paranoid/whatever about a big corporation having the ability to search and read your email, don't sign up for a free account with them! Or alternately, only use your gmail account for unimportant information you're not concerned with them having. Or hey, maybe use it as a "throw-away" address for all your spam to go to? you got a good point, it is not their fault that ppl are so careless with their info... but still, that amount of info is very dangerous and should be kept under very strict supervision.
Activism is great, when it targets a real, existing problem. Activism loses its credibility and potential usefulness when it's used as a bullying or scare tactic. (EG. Greenpeace's fixation on making Apple look bad for environmental issues, despite them contributing FAR less to the problem that manufacturers selling FAR more products with similar or worse environmental "footprints".) sorry, cant comment on this particular sample cause i dont know much about the issue.
as about greenpeace targeting pretty much any tech company, i agree with that... all tech companies are big pollutants and i havent heard of any of them implementing and following a serious anti-pollution & energy-conservation strategy.
For the record, I rarely mod *anything* down, because I prefer using my mod points in a positive way (as encouraged by Slashdot themselves). 100% agree with that... i never used down-modpoints and the most corrections i made in meta-moderation were down-mods.
They have done tests using examples of police uniforms and asking citizens what type of uniform made them feel most secure. could you pls provide a link to such a study?
If you act different, you might find yourself investigated, questioned, and even arrested -- even if you did nothing wrong, and had no intention of doing anything wrong... If you ask amateurs to act as front-line security personnel, you shouldn't be surprised when you get amateur security." actually, if you ask ThePeople to do the job of the security services, you end up WAAAY WORST !
you end up beautiful things like the inquisition, fascism or the soviet russia... all those relied on a large part of the population acting as informants and turning in any single individual that acted a bit different.
The pro-microsoft posts that get modded up are just done by MS astroturfers with mod points.
I thought everyone knew that? are you sure that was a Thought ?!?!
cause it sounds a lot more like a conditional fanboi reflex... you hear microsoft and you start barking harder than Pavlov's dog
Currently, yes, I'd mod someone down for making anti-Google comments, because right now, they all center around the same old issues. (EG. Gmail keeps SO much of people's info, they're getting too powerful!) Until something actually happens that indicates Google is, indeed, doing something bad with all this info, it's just hypothetical fiction. If the story actually covered Google changing corporate policy and reselling the contents of people's emails - THEN I would of course give that due consideration! couldnt disagree more.
1. sounds like your moderating habits are 100% against the/. rules... which specifically state that you SHOULD NOT mod-down comments for the simple fact that you do not agree with the poster !!!
2. "anti-google"... it is precisely that kind of activism that keeps companies in line, especially big ones like google.
Stop that and sooner or later they are gonna start thinking "noone cares about this stuff, we should do it".
3. one of the oldest principles in this world says "it is better to Prevent than to Cure"... why do you think that should be different for google? Why should ppl wait until they do a major fuck-up with those shitloads of info they are gathering?
you sound like an articulate guy, but your mod habits are totally off (or at least the way u described them above)... fanboism, group-thinking, opinion-based moderating and all other bad traits are there... maybe you should think again.
It's not about being happy, it's about being successful. Some of the happiest people are also the most deprived and most destitute. They have manufactured their happiness to compensate for lack of actual accomplishment... meaning that they aren't really happy, merely content with their 'lot in life'. wow... quite a statement you got there amigo.
first of all, happiness has an almost universal definition as an enjoyable state of mind&body... but i am pretty sure noone knows what exactly do YOU mean by "being successful" or "accomplishment" and i am also pretty sure everybody has a different definition for those terms.
for example... how do you apply your above "philosophy" to someone that thinks "being successful" == "being happy" !? could it be that your "philosophy" is rotten from the premises to the conclusion!?
and second, you got it all wrong... "being successful" is not a purpose in itself, but only one way (and NOT the only one) to achieve an end... that end being the It's-good-to-be-in-my-own-skin feeling called Happiness.
my advice for you is - "dont watch so much tv"... you aren't going to learn much about happiness from tv... but you will learn how to spend your entire life working like a mindless-robot in order to achieve grotesque quantities of useless_stuff & very_official_papers.
also stop giving advice to others about their way and purpose in life... even if you figured that out, your solution only applies to You... also stop taking advice from others when it comes to these things... my "advice" included;)
hm... you are either a troll, a retard or someone who did not update his world-view since like the 80s.. but that shouldnt stop ppl from having a bit of fun with you, should it?
What's the big problem?
The problem is that's not a business. oh yes it is.
according with pretty much Any dictionary out there, business is any activity/occupation and it does not have to be "for profit"... and even if you include "for-profit" in the definition, it is still business... just ask ibm.
Who, in their right mind, would devote thousands of development hours cobbling something together, then cast it into the wind where basement developers use "what they want, and [get] rid of what they don't?" many thousands of "right-minded" people do it nowadays... as said above, you only need to update your world view.
That's charity. may be, may be not... but anyway, charity is also business.
I have no problem with the spirit of this OSS thing, but it's laughable to imagine that there's any kind of business potential in releasing things into the wild where they're instantly ripped apart as you've described.
if You dont see that "business potential", it doesnt mean it's not there... it may mean that You have bad vision, though.
and since you are such a business person, i can recommend the perfect solution for your case - just buy a clue!
I know, I know -- there are other ways to make money with Linux (something I feel isn't proven yet), one can give you some samples like ibm, red hat, novell and others that make billions from this stuff .
but i have a feeling that will help in your case... no matter how good you argue or how many samples you give, there is always that guy that "doesnt feel"... usually you can easily spot him wandering around with a big "clueless moron" sign on his head... check the mirror sometime, I have a feeling that may be you.
but I keep seeing this expectation --and I don't put your post in that category, since you're just speculating-- that companies will be dying to do what you've suggested in your example. i am pretty sure ppl around here do not care about the stuff you "keep seeing"... a psychologist may be interested, though.
Unless they're either very stupid or very philanthropic, it will never happen. oops it just happened... and by "just" i mean like >20 years ago, about the time you stopped updating your world-view.
Idealism be damned -- a successful business cannot care what benefits everyone, unless it benefits them first. oh that was the problem with your outdated world-view, you still live in the 60s with ayn rand... i always felt that ayn rand fans should all be put on an island and left alone to live by their principles... that will teach them the wisdom of "be careful what you wish, it may come true".
anyway, pls keep posting, ppl like you are needed.
Everybody thinks that the best way to test an idea is to present it to some smart people (and if they like it, you got a winner).
i think it works the other way too... just put your idea in front of a few idiots and if they hate it you can be sure you got a winner... this may even be a more effective test and the idiots are way cheaper and available everywhere... plus the endless fun you can have by listening their "arguments".
I find it odd that you would disagree with the pervasiveness of swearing. Simply walk down any city street and eavesdrop on the conversations. You'll find someone swearing in no time. well, you may be surprised to hear that there are neighborhoods, cities or even entire countries where swearing is not pervasive... some languages dont even offer much support for that kind of speach... and i'm not talking about some obscure dialect used by 5 ppl, but about a language like german.
e.g. go to switzerland and you may be surprised to spend weeks, even months without hearing any swearing.
There's a big difference between not swearing and getting all up in arms and your feelings hurt when someone swears, even when it is not directed at you. If you get your feelings hurt when someone says to you, "You know what Rozz? I think Jimmy is a fucking idiot." then you are a supersentive weaking that should stay home. Of course you don't agree with that statement. No one wants to consider themselves supersenstive weakings, but often one's perceptions of himself does not match that truth. there diff you noted clearly exists but i wasnt talking about the "mommy, mommy, jimmy said fuck" crowd... i wont start crying is someone swears at me, but that doesnt mean i have to accept that kind of behavior or even consider it normal.
So in conclusion, while you don't have to be a pig, you don't have to say "Oh no the pigs! The pigs!" cause that's a personal problem. Deal with it.
i hope by "deal with it" you dont mean i should start shouting "fuck off you pigs" ?! and why should i deal with it, is it my fault that they cannot express themselves without throwing mud?
anyway... i have a better solution.... i can live between human beings and never have to lose my time "dealing with it".
It doesn't hurt the atmostphere becase, like it or not, swearing is pervasive in today's society. i guess by "today's society" you meant "coaxial's neighborhood"... cause otherwise i totally disagree with the above affirmation.
and even if you were right and that was true about the entire humankind, i would still not agree or accept the situation like you seem to propose... i mean, if the majority are idiots, it does not mean i have to be one too!
plus, you also suggest that ppl who do not accept swearing are some sort of supersensitive weaklings that should stay home... 100% disagree with that... i'd consider myself that kind of weakling if i accepted and embraced the swearing... again, even if you live between pigs you dont have to be one.
think up a new business model, and stop trying to prop up the dead one with the court system
a new business model means less money? too bad. the golden age is over. fucking deal with it and stop sending your barking dogs to terrorize little people in your rage and frustration and denial if that is not a clear "100% Insightful", I don't know what is... but then, when you check the moderation, surprise, surprise:
60% Insightful
20% Flamebait
10% Redundant
well, they both have pretty much the same subject: HumanCondition
I don't see how you can learn anything about the human condition from either, considering that none of those things ever happened. Well ok, Brutus did kill Julius Caesar, but the details that would actually tell you something are made up. That's why we call it fiction. It doesn't really tell us about the human condition.
At best, it tells us what Shakespeare thought about the human condition. Two entirely different things. and the theory of gravity only tells us what Newton thought about gravity.. Newton did not create the exact sun, the exact earth and their exact gravity in his lab, he just constructed a Model... Shakespeare does the same, he creates Models of hate, love, fear etc and tries to give you a pure form of each .
and he is just as good at "modeling" love as Newton was at modeling Gravity.
and again, HumanCondition is not cold-facts-science, or at least not yet (btw, auguste comte did a pretty good job applying the scientific method to social sciences).
you are a cold-facts type and you try to understand the HumanCondition by using cold-fact-science methods... while that may be possible, I am not sure it is the best way... I mean, you can read 10 books about an emotion but you only understand it when you FEEL it... try to Feel Shakespeare (and literature and arts in general), stop de-composing it word by word.
And concerning Shakespeare's view of the human condition, it's a pretty grotesque caricature. Shakespeare does not add or substract anything from the humanCondition, he just goes through the entire "collection", from the highest states of love, heroism, etc to the highest states of hate, fear, doubt, etc.
I mean think about Lady MacBeth's nightmare, or Brutus talking to Caesar's ghost. Those things don't happen, and I don't understand how they can be used as a guide for understanding peoples motivations. are you saying that those exact things didnt happen? or that such things never happen?
the latter affirmation would be 100% wrong... if anything reality is even more "strange".
the former it's kind of irrelevant... even if those exact things did not happen, similar ones happen every day and all over the place.
If you want to learn about the human condition, that's what the field of psychology is for. that is only one of the Views... there are a lot more like history, literature, music, etc... all meaningful, all necessary.
or to put it in "scientific" terms... Physics and Chemistry are (more or less) views of the same subject: the Matter (or Energy or whatever is that crap we are made of). They are different but also interconnected and you need both of them to understand Matter.
and in the end, if you go deeper, ALL those so called real-sciences are also views of the same HumanCondition... you seem to think that Math, Physics, etc are perfectly objective and the humanistic sciences are totally subjective... that is 100% FALSE !
Physics does not describe The-Matter but the humans view of the matter... Objectivity is just a myth, in reality you only have different levels of subjectivity... or maybe it's the same level with different faces.
anyway, just open your mind to ALL forms of knowledge and try to fully understand that nothing is perfect, sure or objective... Absolutely Nothing!
Such as? It's not for lack of trying. I pressed my English teachers quite hard to explain it to me, both in HS and college. I just don't get it. What does Shakespeare have to offer that a daytime soap doesn't? well, they both have pretty much the same subject: HumanCondition... but that's the whole similarity, I would say even less.
maybe a comparison will help you... let's say the subject was not HumanCondition but something closer to your science-background, like "the matter and the universe".
Shakespeare: presents an Einstein-level view of the matter and universe.
Daytime Soap: presents a CleaningLady-level view of the same.
the human condition (interaction, emotions, communication, etc) is just as complex and could be just as beautiful and interesting as a whole universe... but then, same as with the hard-cold-facts science, not everyone has enough interest or capacity to understand it.
and btw... if you fail to get that difference, i would say that you "understand" the human condition at the same level at which a CleaningLady understands quantum physics... whether that is a good or a bad thing, you are the only one to decide.
The US Army has been proven by the Iraq debacle to be a paper tiger. What a stupid, uninformed remark.
As a Military Force All four of the Military services have proven themselves anything but a paper tigers. As a Police Force it's a different story altogether. Even spread as thin as they are, fighting on two different fronts, they are performing very, very well. It was not the force, or it's capabilities that are the problem in Iraq or in Afghanistan, it's the polices set at the highest levels that cause the current situation. The Bush administration had a very sharp knife, and decided to hammer nails with it. sooo.. basically the US army is the greatest, the only small problem being that it has retards instead of commanders and the rest are stupid enough to listen to them... way to go!
Don't confuse misuse of a tool with the capability of that tool. oh reeaaally !?... let me give you a sample.. you have a mouth which i am sure is perfectly capable of eating gourmet food... but if you eat shit the whole day, you think it will be a huge confusion to call you a shit eater?
The "Debacle" in Iraq was because the US Military was limited in what it was allowed to do to accomplish the mission. The initial mission was "Get Saddam, and those in his regime" - check, roger, done. Now it's "Stabilize the region" um, okay, then we need to pick a side and wipe them out, they have, after all, been warring with each other for hundreds of years..... Obviously that isn't really an option, and it's not a job for an army, it's a job for Diplomats, engineers, social workers, and the like. The "Debacle" in Iraq, in other words, has nothing to do with the capabilities of the Armed services. i think both you and that army need something else... you may start with getting a clue.
There should be a firefox plug-in that will automatically redirect you to the https url whenever you try to go through the http url. Possibly enable only secure mode for an entire domain. That sure would be handy. That way you don't have to worry about going to the non-secure url by accident. customizegoogle... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/743
Yeah, but that's free as in communism. This gonna be free like America! definitely Funny... but this is the most Insightful/. comment i seen during the last few months.
i wonder why was it posted as AC
science - we need faster and faster access to knowledge politics&business - we need longer copyrights/patents/trademarks/etc theology - we need no knowledge whatsoever
someone pls help me, it's soooo hard to choose the best one
A little more programming and this can become a second Second Life ? actually it may become TheRealSecondLife..
i wonder how you'll have to pay for a two-bedrooms in TheRealSecondLife manhattan
Slashdot Mirror
but still.
you posted very interesting and to-the-point samples, but something just doesnt feel right.
you mentioned a "more abstract level" at which the adults make the same mistake
e.g.
most adults never accept others with diff ideas, and even the most intelligent ppl have to control themselves pretty hard in order to accept the differences
i would say this is because some very basic "trigger" somewhere in our physiology or psycology
P.S.
dont know if my blabla made any sense or if i stated things that u knew for years
how many of the ppl you know that truly understand that division and are capable of seeing the world through someone else's eyes?
most ppl are totally baffled when they see others with diff opinions/feeling, basically because they cant understand the "division" you mentioned... and that is no small matter, adults Kill people that think/feel different (think religious wars)
thank you for one of the best /. posts ever.
... and it's not easy, such a lack of strong beliefs generates a lot of mistrust between the ppl around u.
... but it is so much fun ... and at least from my experience, the stronger the beliefs, the more stupid/uninformed the person.
my whole life i found it very difficult to sustain any strong belief, precisely because of the contradictions you find on any thought-line that follows
i also had the same problems you mentioned with the ppl with strong beliefs... pointing out some of their contradictions can put you in a lot of trouble
P.S.
does your professor have any online material, or could u at least post his name?
yours is far from being the worst sample of "opinion-moderation" but i still think it is not ok.
Look, Google got ALL of the info they have today VOLUNTARILY. Again, what happened to personal responsibility here? If you're that worried/paranoid/whatever about a big corporation having the ability to search and read your email, don't sign up for a free account with them! Or alternately, only use your gmail account for unimportant information you're not concerned with them having. Or hey, maybe use it as a "throw-away" address for all your spam to go to?
you got a good point, it is not their fault that ppl are so careless with their info
Activism is great, when it targets a real, existing problem. Activism loses its credibility and potential usefulness when it's used as a bullying or scare tactic. (EG. Greenpeace's fixation on making Apple look bad for environmental issues, despite them contributing FAR less to the problem that manufacturers selling FAR more products with similar or worse environmental "footprints".)
sorry, cant comment on this particular sample cause i dont know much about the issue.
as about greenpeace targeting pretty much any tech company, i agree with that
For the record, I rarely mod *anything* down, because I prefer using my mod points in a positive way (as encouraged by Slashdot themselves).
100% agree with that
actually all the over50 people are there to politely invite their nephews to logout.
"that's enough play for today johnny, come eat some, brush your teeth and go to sleep; damn computers."
They have done tests using examples of police uniforms and asking citizens what type of uniform made them feel most secure. could you pls provide a link to such a study?
you end up beautiful things like the inquisition, fascism or the soviet russia
thank you
I thought everyone knew that? are you sure that was a Thought ?!?!
cause it sounds a lot more like a conditional fanboi reflex
couldnt disagree more.
1. sounds like your moderating habits are 100% against the
2. "anti-google"
Stop that and sooner or later they are gonna start thinking "noone cares about this stuff, we should do it".
3. one of the oldest principles in this world says "it is better to Prevent than to Cure"
you sound like an articulate guy, but your mod habits are totally off (or at least the way u described them above)
first of all, happiness has an almost universal definition as an enjoyable state of mind&body
for example
and second, you got it all wrong
my advice for you is - "dont watch so much tv"
also stop giving advice to others about their way and purpose in life... even if you figured that out, your solution only applies to You
What's the big problem?
The problem is that's not a business. oh yes it is.
according with pretty much Any dictionary out there, business is any activity/occupation and it does not have to be "for profit"
if You dont see that "business potential", it doesnt mean it's not there
and since you are such a business person, i can recommend the perfect solution for your case - just buy a clue!
I know, I know -- there are other ways to make money with Linux (something I feel isn't proven yet), one can give you some samples like ibm, red hat, novell and others that make billions from this stuff .
but i have a feeling that will help in your case
anyway, pls keep posting, ppl like you are needed. ... just put your idea in front of a few idiots and if they hate it you can be sure you got a winner ... this may even be a more effective test and the idiots are way cheaper and available everywhere ... plus the endless fun you can have by listening their "arguments".
Everybody thinks that the best way to test an idea is to present it to some smart people (and if they like it, you got a winner).
i think it works the other way too
so ... happy posting amigo.
well, you may be surprised to hear that there are neighborhoods, cities or even entire countries where swearing is not pervasive... some languages dont even offer much support for that kind of speach
e.g. go to switzerland and you may be surprised to spend weeks, even months without hearing any swearing.
There's a big difference between not swearing and getting all up in arms and your feelings hurt when someone swears, even when it is not directed at you. If you get your feelings hurt when someone says to you, "You know what Rozz? I think Jimmy is a fucking idiot." then you are a supersentive weaking that should stay home. Of course you don't agree with that statement. No one wants to consider themselves supersenstive weakings, but often one's perceptions of himself does not match that truth.
there diff you noted clearly exists but i wasnt talking about the "mommy, mommy, jimmy said fuck" crowd
So in conclusion, while you don't have to be a pig, you don't have to say "Oh no the pigs! The pigs!" cause that's a personal problem. Deal with it.
i hope by "deal with it" you dont mean i should start shouting "fuck off you pigs" ?! and why should i deal with it, is it my fault that they cannot express themselves without throwing mud?
anyway
and even if you were right and that was true about the entire humankind, i would still not agree or accept the situation like you seem to propose
plus, you also suggest that ppl who do not accept swearing are some sort of supersensitive weaklings that should stay home
First be a good kid and eat your lunch. Dessert may come later
I guess we should thank them for confirming the suspicion... and hope that metamoderation still works
reality: your business model is history
think up a new business model, and stop trying to prop up the dead one with the court system
a new business model means less money? too bad. the golden age is over. fucking deal with it and stop sending your barking dogs to terrorize little people in your rage and frustration and denial if that is not a clear "100% Insightful", I don't know what is
60% Insightful
20% Flamebait
10% Redundant
so many RIAA lackeys modding around here ?!
I don't see how you can learn anything about the human condition from either, considering that none of those things ever happened. Well ok, Brutus did kill Julius Caesar, but the details that would actually tell you something are made up. That's why we call it fiction. It doesn't really tell us about the human condition.
At best, it tells us what Shakespeare thought about the human condition. Two entirely different things.
and the theory of gravity only tells us what Newton thought about gravity
and he is just as good at "modeling" love as Newton was at modeling Gravity.
and again, HumanCondition is not cold-facts-science, or at least not yet (btw, auguste comte did a pretty good job applying the scientific method to social sciences).
you are a cold-facts type and you try to understand the HumanCondition by using cold-fact-science methods
And concerning Shakespeare's view of the human condition, it's a pretty grotesque caricature. Shakespeare does not add or substract anything from the humanCondition, he just goes through the entire "collection", from the highest states of love, heroism, etc to the highest states of hate, fear, doubt, etc. I mean think about Lady MacBeth's nightmare, or Brutus talking to Caesar's ghost. Those things don't happen, and I don't understand how they can be used as a guide for understanding peoples motivations.
are you saying that those exact things didnt happen? or that such things never happen?
the latter affirmation would be 100% wrong... if anything reality is even more "strange".
the former it's kind of irrelevant
If you want to learn about the human condition, that's what the field of psychology is for. that is only one of the Views... there are a lot more like history, literature, music, etc... all meaningful, all necessary.
or to put it in "scientific" terms
and in the end, if you go deeper, ALL those so called real-sciences are also views of the same HumanCondition
Physics does not describe The-Matter but the humans view of the matter... Objectivity is just a myth, in reality you only have different levels of subjectivity
anyway, just open your mind to ALL forms of knowledge and try to fully understand that nothing is perfect, sure or objective... Absolutely Nothing!
maybe a comparison will help you ... let's say the subject was not HumanCondition but something closer to your science-background, like "the matter and the universe".
Shakespeare: presents an Einstein-level view of the matter and universe.
Daytime Soap: presents a CleaningLady-level view of the same.
the human condition (interaction, emotions, communication, etc) is just as complex and could be just as beautiful and interesting as a whole universe ... but then, same as with the hard-cold-facts science, not everyone has enough interest or capacity to understand it.
and btw ... if you fail to get that difference, i would say that you "understand" the human condition at the same level at which a CleaningLady understands quantum physics ... whether that is a good or a bad thing, you are the only one to decide.
As a Military Force All four of the Military services have proven themselves anything but a paper tigers. As a Police Force it's a different story altogether. Even spread as thin as they are, fighting on two different fronts, they are performing very, very well. It was not the force, or it's capabilities that are the problem in Iraq or in Afghanistan, it's the polices set at the highest levels that cause the current situation. The Bush administration had a very sharp knife, and decided to hammer nails with it.
sooo
oh reeaaally !?... let me give you a sample
The "Debacle" in Iraq was because the US Military was limited in what it was allowed to do to accomplish the mission. The initial mission was "Get Saddam, and those in his regime" - check, roger, done. Now it's "Stabilize the region" um, okay, then we need to pick a side and wipe them out, they have, after all, been warring with each other for hundreds of years..... Obviously that isn't really an option, and it's not a job for an army, it's a job for Diplomats, engineers, social workers, and the like. The "Debacle" in Iraq, in other words, has nothing to do with the capabilities of the Armed services.
i think both you and that army need something else
i wonder why was it posted as AC
science - we need faster and faster access to knowledge
politics&business - we need longer copyrights/patents/trademarks/etc
theology - we need no knowledge whatsoever
someone pls help me, it's soooo hard to choose the best one
the only questions is - how long until the LIVE version?
oh wait
i wonder how you'll have to pay for a two-bedrooms in TheRealSecondLife manhattan
some lucky modpoints owner should MOD PARENT UP