We need to continue to encourage folks to step up to the plate. Bands, artists, songwriters of all flavors should make thier stuff availible online with one CC stipulation.. It can't be sold/profitted from unless the copyright holder changes the license.
Nice, but you haven't thought far enough. This might work for the indie/pop/rock stuff, but for everything else, especially that which is usually called 'serious' music like the classical music in TFA, people just aren't going to do it for no money. I mean sure - do it for the love of it - but thats only going to go so far.
To be a classical musician/conductor/composer, you almost certainly need to go to university for a few years. And who is going to spend thousands of dollars and many years of their life on something which is going to earn them no money? Very few.
And don't forget that something like an orchestra is not like your garage band or techno track done on a computer - it requires a whole bunch of people with exceedingly expensive equipment (instruments, recording gear etc) and you need to put them somewhere, so hire a auditorium or something. You can't do it just for the love of it, no matter how much you like doing it. At the end of the day somebody needs to pay for it, and government funding won't cut it.
I totally disagree. This so-called 'remixing' - which, as you quite rightly point out has been going on for ages, often leads to new creativity that would not have been possible without taking bits that were already around. Yes, even in art.
The entire bebop movement in jazz - the foundation of practically all jazz since 1940's, almost 75% of tunes and compositions and performances from this bebop era were based upon one single chord progression (George Gershwin's I Got Rhythm; the chord progression was known as simply "The Changes" it was so common). All that was done was to create a new melody or some minor reharmonisation, yet this music remains among the most distinctive and creative music ever performed - simply because the artists did not have to worry about reinventing the wheel with a new set of changes and could concenctrate on the creative side of improvisation. Twelve bar blues - again, the foundation of a huge chunk of jazz and western music, perhaps the most common chord progression ever - has been reused an incredible amount of times simply because it leaves musicians to concentrate on their own interpretation of the music rather than fooling around with intricacies.
I'm sure people from other branches of art could give you numerous examples of how 'stealing' bits and pieces leads to greater creativity and innovation.
Yeah.. I'd agree with you until you factor in the piss-poor selection of music from places like iTunes and the ninemsn music download thing we got in Australia here. Sure if I want to listen to pop-hits ok, but what if I want some rare jazz album out of print for 40 years? Then eMule or even Limewire are my only choice.
And how much of my mp3 collection has lyrics/words/singing at all? I have more than 20gig of jazz/classical... not everybody listens to commercial pop music. Although I'm not sure how accurate this system would be identifying non-recent/commercial music anyhow...
I would agree with all the above - and add that the recording quality doesn't mean shit - it's the music. I listen to all kinds of jazz, and probably more than half of the tracks on my computer are from the 1960's or earlier, and cannot be described as the best recording quality. Yet I'd rather listen to that than an overproduced, overdubbed, effect-laden quagmire of a song like I hear on the radio.
Perhaps it is a good thing that there are more independents (this 5c a song scheme sounds like it suits independents), as we might start to get more music that is less about gloss and glitz and more about music.
512/128 is not that impressive atm in Australia. I'm in Brisbane, and tomorrow (Thursday), I upgrade finally from 56k dialup to 1.5k/256 with a 20/20 gig (day/offpeak) cap, for 49.95$ a month. This is with a quite large isp called TPG (it has a very, very poor reputation for customer service but which true geek ever uses customer service heheh?). In my opinion that deal is not bad... although not quite in the league of Europe and Asia.
You're quite right - of course most people will not notice that a trumpet's g4 is a cent or two sharp when played by a professional trumpet player. My point was, there are subtle differences in woodwind instruments - bringing the g4 into correct pitch by slightly loosening the lips makes a slightly different tone, for example. There is also a significant difference in tone between a c4 and a d4, because they are in different harmonics - even the best trumpet players cannot hide that. A clarinet's middle range and top range have very different timbres. Identical pitches played on different strings of a cello sound different depending on which string they are played on. If you transpose a piece of music even a 2nd, you still are going to change some of these delicate variables. I might sound pedantic, but when I write music i want it to sound a particular way, and all these things build up to give an overall impression. Maybe its only me that notices the difference, but I still want it to sound the way I want.
Sibelius 3 does it - Sibelius is fast beginning to replace Finale as the preferred notation programme. I use it, as a composer, and it works better than anything else I've ever used. Notation also looks a bit nicer than Finale, and most other things - apart from LilyPond of course:-P i just need to work out a way to get Sibelius to export to LilyPond. If you're under linux, I think you might be in strife though, although there is a OSX port I think. For memory, Sibelius 2 worked fine under WINE when i tried it out under Red Hat 9 a while ago. But yes, it does do Nashville-style chord notation - why you'd use that instead of standard jazz notation is beyond me, it pisses me off - to me the key the music is in is important, when I'm writing for wind instruments I will choose different keys depending on what feel I want - a trumpets G above the staff is slightly sharp, for instance.
i think these dual headphones jacks are gonna be great - the amount of time i can think of going on school trips or watever trying to share music with a mate by putting one earphone per person. it sounds like shit. and because cd's are stereo, if an instrument is panned far left or something, then you miss out on that instrument entirely. dual headphone jacks is a fantastic idea i cant believe i havent seen this before
Exactly the same for me - if it weren't for limewire i never would have discovered jazz. i heard some miles davis on limewire by accident - now i own about a dozen miles davis albums, actual physical cds i purchased. See, and I'm never going to hear that kind of stuff normally, not on the radio - so i never would have got interested in jazz and ended up purchasing in total about a couple of dozen albums besides those miles davis ones.
One human readable language that was developed as such has survived... BASIC; although most people on slashdot dont think its a real language (I dont think many C coders do lol) its used massively, thanks mainly to Microsoft. Years of it being included on those 'microcomputers' that you plugged into your telly (C64, BBC Micro etc) meant that for many people it was the first language they learned. QBasic didn't help either... and of course nowadays Visual Basic is used exceedingly widely, standalone and in the incarnation used to write macro virii in Microsoft Office. Of course its not used to do many things slashdotters would call 'serious' programming tasks though.
I would consider myself a fairly knowledgable user, although im a convert from windows (a few years ago), but to be honest i would not know what widget set a programme uses. I use the programme for how good it is, not because of some irrational allegiance to a particular WM.
Somebody mentioned before about how naming programmes beginning with K or G doesn't matter because the main menu groups applications according to their genre; yes that is true, but if you're doing text based things from the command line, things can get very confusing, so it would be nice if not half of your bins or watever aren't beginning with K or G.
ive actually been looking into the idea of building a simple sid player in the vein of an mp3 player, running off a stick of eeprom and an original sid chip for a while now... you only have to look at the popularity of sites like http://www.hvsc.c64.org/ (high voltage sid collection) for evidence of how popular sids still are - a hardware version would be pretty cool. Having designed and built my on Z80 based computer, I dont think it would be too much more effort to give this a shot.
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Nice, but you haven't thought far enough. This might work for the indie/pop/rock stuff, but for everything else, especially that which is usually called 'serious' music like the classical music in TFA, people just aren't going to do it for no money. I mean sure - do it for the love of it - but thats only going to go so far.
To be a classical musician/conductor/composer, you almost certainly need to go to university for a few years. And who is going to spend thousands of dollars and many years of their life on something which is going to earn them no money? Very few. And don't forget that something like an orchestra is not like your garage band or techno track done on a computer - it requires a whole bunch of people with exceedingly expensive equipment (instruments, recording gear etc) and you need to put them somewhere, so hire a auditorium or something. You can't do it just for the love of it, no matter how much you like doing it. At the end of the day somebody needs to pay for it, and government funding won't cut it.I totally disagree. This so-called 'remixing' - which, as you quite rightly point out has been going on for ages, often leads to new creativity that would not have been possible without taking bits that were already around. Yes, even in art. The entire bebop movement in jazz - the foundation of practically all jazz since 1940's, almost 75% of tunes and compositions and performances from this bebop era were based upon one single chord progression (George Gershwin's I Got Rhythm; the chord progression was known as simply "The Changes" it was so common). All that was done was to create a new melody or some minor reharmonisation, yet this music remains among the most distinctive and creative music ever performed - simply because the artists did not have to worry about reinventing the wheel with a new set of changes and could concenctrate on the creative side of improvisation. Twelve bar blues - again, the foundation of a huge chunk of jazz and western music, perhaps the most common chord progression ever - has been reused an incredible amount of times simply because it leaves musicians to concentrate on their own interpretation of the music rather than fooling around with intricacies. I'm sure people from other branches of art could give you numerous examples of how 'stealing' bits and pieces leads to greater creativity and innovation.
Information just wants to be free!!!
Yeah.. I'd agree with you until you factor in the piss-poor selection of music from places like iTunes and the ninemsn music download thing we got in Australia here. Sure if I want to listen to pop-hits ok, but what if I want some rare jazz album out of print for 40 years? Then eMule or even Limewire are my only choice.
And how much of my mp3 collection has lyrics/words/singing at all? I have more than 20gig of jazz/classical... not everybody listens to commercial pop music. Although I'm not sure how accurate this system would be identifying non-recent/commercial music anyhow...
I would agree with all the above - and add that the recording quality doesn't mean shit - it's the music. I listen to all kinds of jazz, and probably more than half of the tracks on my computer are from the 1960's or earlier, and cannot be described as the best recording quality. Yet I'd rather listen to that than an overproduced, overdubbed, effect-laden quagmire of a song like I hear on the radio. Perhaps it is a good thing that there are more independents (this 5c a song scheme sounds like it suits independents), as we might start to get more music that is less about gloss and glitz and more about music.
512/128 is not that impressive atm in Australia. I'm in Brisbane, and tomorrow (Thursday), I upgrade finally from 56k dialup to 1.5k/256 with a 20/20 gig (day/offpeak) cap, for 49.95$ a month. This is with a quite large isp called TPG (it has a very, very poor reputation for customer service but which true geek ever uses customer service heheh?). In my opinion that deal is not bad... although not quite in the league of Europe and Asia.
So who else reckons this AC is a Speakeasy astroturfer? lol...
My work looks like garbage to anyone snooping in regardless of encryption techniques...
That reminds me of the New Zealand Herald (newspaper) once referred to how the "Cadillac is the Rolls-Royce of cars". =^_^=
You're quite right - of course most people will not notice that a trumpet's g4 is a cent or two sharp when played by a professional trumpet player. My point was, there are subtle differences in woodwind instruments - bringing the g4 into correct pitch by slightly loosening the lips makes a slightly different tone, for example. There is also a significant difference in tone between a c4 and a d4, because they are in different harmonics - even the best trumpet players cannot hide that. A clarinet's middle range and top range have very different timbres. Identical pitches played on different strings of a cello sound different depending on which string they are played on. If you transpose a piece of music even a 2nd, you still are going to change some of these delicate variables. I might sound pedantic, but when I write music i want it to sound a particular way, and all these things build up to give an overall impression. Maybe its only me that notices the difference, but I still want it to sound the way I want.
Sibelius 3 does it - Sibelius is fast beginning to replace Finale as the preferred notation programme. I use it, as a composer, and it works better than anything else I've ever used. Notation also looks a bit nicer than Finale, and most other things - apart from LilyPond of course :-P i just need to work out a way to get Sibelius to export to LilyPond. If you're under linux, I think you might be in strife though, although there is a OSX port I think. For memory, Sibelius 2 worked fine under WINE when i tried it out under Red Hat 9 a while ago. But yes, it does do Nashville-style chord notation - why you'd use that instead of standard jazz notation is beyond me, it pisses me off - to me the key the music is in is important, when I'm writing for wind instruments I will choose different keys depending on what feel I want - a trumpets G above the staff is slightly sharp, for instance.
To me, it's alot like the TV version of RTFA... W(atch)TFP(rogramme)?
i think these dual headphones jacks are gonna be great - the amount of time i can think of going on school trips or watever trying to share music with a mate by putting one earphone per person. it sounds like shit. and because cd's are stereo, if an instrument is panned far left or something, then you miss out on that instrument entirely. dual headphone jacks is a fantastic idea i cant believe i havent seen this before
Whoever marked that offtopic is an idiot. BMW's marketing slogan is 'The Ultimate Driving Machine'. How do get hydrogen? You electrolyse water.
Exactly the same for me - if it weren't for limewire i never would have discovered jazz. i heard some miles davis on limewire by accident - now i own about a dozen miles davis albums, actual physical cds i purchased. See, and I'm never going to hear that kind of stuff normally, not on the radio - so i never would have got interested in jazz and ended up purchasing in total about a couple of dozen albums besides those miles davis ones.
One human readable language that was developed as such has survived... BASIC; although most people on slashdot dont think its a real language (I dont think many C coders do lol) its used massively, thanks mainly to Microsoft. Years of it being included on those 'microcomputers' that you plugged into your telly (C64, BBC Micro etc) meant that for many people it was the first language they learned. QBasic didn't help either... and of course nowadays Visual Basic is used exceedingly widely, standalone and in the incarnation used to write macro virii in Microsoft Office. Of course its not used to do many things slashdotters would call 'serious' programming tasks though.
I would consider myself a fairly knowledgable user, although im a convert from windows (a few years ago), but to be honest i would not know what widget set a programme uses. I use the programme for how good it is, not because of some irrational allegiance to a particular WM.
Somebody mentioned before about how naming programmes beginning with K or G doesn't matter because the main menu groups applications according to their genre; yes that is true, but if you're doing text based things from the command line, things can get very confusing, so it would be nice if not half of your bins or watever aren't beginning with K or G.
ive actually been looking into the idea of building a simple sid player in the vein of an mp3 player, running off a stick of eeprom and an original sid chip for a while now... you only have to look at the popularity of sites like http://www.hvsc.c64.org/ (high voltage sid collection) for evidence of how popular sids still are - a hardware version would be pretty cool. Having designed and built my on Z80 based computer, I dont think it would be too much more effort to give this a shot.