The reason the game is unfun isn't that there's a lot of PvP, it's that the outcome of most PvP battles are predetermined based on the skills of the character and the ship they own.
I call shenanigans. An extra 5% to gun damage because of a skill level doesn't determine a fight. Your tactical skill and your ship setup determine a fight. A 20 million SP player can be defeated by a 4 million SP player if the younger player knows what they're doing.
I can't find the link right now, but there is a forum post from a new player detailing how he was successfully pirating and ransoming other players BEFORE HIS TRIAL WAS UP.
Yes, within 14 days he was PVPing successfully, and enjoying the game.
There's plenty of griefing going on in EVE, that's for sure. Between the random PKing just for kicks, and the scams that people pull, it's not much fun for n00bs. I think that's gonna have a real bad effect on EVE's future population level. I never got off on griefing, so this isn't a selling point for me either.
I don't like griefing either, but people have been wailing that the non-consentual PVP would destroy Eve since it was released. However, the population keeps growing, so I guess people are okay with it.
They even managed to make combat pretty boring by making it automatic and taking individual skill completely out of it.
There is a ton of player skill in combat. It's just tactical skills instead of twitch skills.
I have maxed out one race's Battleships, and related skills. My character is less than 2 years old, and has trained a LOT of unrelated stuff. (Maxed mining, refining, science, and production, as well as the ability to fly most ships of the other 3 races competently)
3 years to pilot a BS well is VERY wrong.
A well piloted AF can challenge a BS. It happens fairly often. And most frigates can survive BS attacks easily unless the BS is specifically fitted to kill frigs. (Not very common)
I calculated how long it would take me to be fully trained on captaining a battleship, with all the necessary skills for both weapons use, piloting, and maneuvering. With the current system, it would take more than 3 years in real time to finish the training.
Your math must be pretty whacked out. The games has barely been out two years, and there are plenty of battleship pilots. It's more like 6 months to be a competent battleship pilot. (Not maxed, but more than competitive)
Besides, frigates are MUCH more fun to fly anyway, and you can train for them in much less time.
(FYI - I'll be able to fly a dreadnaught by the end of the week, and my character is less than 2 years old, let alone 3)
Okay, but we're talking IF you got ahold of a copy. *somehow* (And we all know stuff has a habit of getting to the public in some shape or form quite easily nowadays)
Scenario: I write "Cool Song", and copyright it. Since I just wrote one song, I don't intend to try and market it yet and want to keep it private for possible future use. However, I give a copy to a friend to check out. Without my knowledge, he throws it up on his public FTP.
Right there, he broke copyright. If you decide to download the song, you break copyright. Why? Because I don't want it distributed.
Why is this important? Say in 6 years, I've written 10 "Cool Songs" and want to put out an album. But because of infringement, my stuff has been out for years. Most people have heard it already, and already have copies of it. This will obviously affect the marketability of my work. Heck, perhaps I wrote the song for a loved one, and don't want anyone else to have it. That is my right as a copyright holder.
The point is that it is NOT okay to obtain copyrighted work simply because the content holder does not make it available legitimately for you. As a content holder, I have no responsibility to sell you my work, and you have no right to get it by other means if I choose not to. You have NO right to take something I created without my permission. Once it enters public domain, then you can have at it.
Am I more clear now?
(P.S. - Copyright is actually established upon creation of the work. Filing for it simply makes it much easier to defend, as you have documentation.)
Brock was already beefy, but I'm sure they'll take artistic license in the movie. I'm curious how they get the alien symbiote in there in the first place. I seriously doubt they're sending spidey into space, giving him the suit, giving him time to become aware that it's alive, get rid of it, and it finding Brock and trying to kill Spidey.
Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright
A copyright is a set of exclusive rights granted by government for a limited time to regulate the use of a particular form, way or manner in which an idea or information is expressed.
I know it's not straight from copyright law, but it looks fairly accurate. Copyrighting a work does not necessitate publication.
Yeah, but that's a different scenario. What you're talking about is what public domain is for. (Or at least what it's supposed to be for)
I guess it comes down to a respect thing. If I make it, and don't want it distributed, people should respect my request as long as the work is still copyrighted. You may not disagree with my decision to withold the work, but it is my right to do so. After that copyright expires, you can do whatever the heck you want with it. (I disagree with the ability to extend copyrights indefinitely, btw)
Just curious: If you donate to the P2P service, how does that help the people who actually created the content you're downloading?
Wait, it doesn't.
I agree that new distribution models need to be created for media. Systems like iTunes are good attempts at it. However I don't think using and supporting P2P programs that do not compensate content producers at all is helping at all.
Say I write a really cool song. I copyright it, but have no interest in distributing. I keep it in my private collection and want it to stay there. Do you have the right to force your way in there to obtain a copy? It doesn't matter if you're willing to pay. It doesn't matter if I'm not losing revenue because I wasn't selling it in the first place. It's my song, and I have the right to limit what's done with it.
Content producers have no responsibility to provide you with anything. If they don't want to sell it, you're SOL.
And the MPAA doesn't give a crap about the commercials. The broadcast stations do. All those stations that paid for the right to air episodes of the Simpsons to attract advertisers.
TV stations pay for the right to distribute. You do not. I'm not sure how it works for rentals, but I'm sure the MPAA gets some bank from them as well.
It does nothing of the sort. It just finds all the media files it can and lists them as possibly illegal. The user has to go through the list and mark the legit files.
In the hands of a typical luser, this thing will wipe out ANY media on the machine.
IIRC Nintendo makes a profit on every GC console sold. Everyone else sells at a loss. (Mebbe not this late in the cycle, but definitely at release) The GC is still a contributor to Nintendo's profits.
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And I said several posts back that I disagree with extending copyrights. So that entire post was a waste of time.
I can't find the link right now, but there is a forum post from a new player detailing how he was successfully pirating and ransoming other players BEFORE HIS TRIAL WAS UP.
Yes, within 14 days he was PVPing successfully, and enjoying the game.
I have maxed out one race's Battleships, and related skills. My character is less than 2 years old, and has trained a LOT of unrelated stuff. (Maxed mining, refining, science, and production, as well as the ability to fly most ships of the other 3 races competently)
3 years to pilot a BS well is VERY wrong.
A well piloted AF can challenge a BS. It happens fairly often. And most frigates can survive BS attacks easily unless the BS is specifically fitted to kill frigs. (Not very common)
Besides, frigates are MUCH more fun to fly anyway, and you can train for them in much less time.
(FYI - I'll be able to fly a dreadnaught by the end of the week, and my character is less than 2 years old, let alone 3)
Okay, but we're talking IF you got ahold of a copy. *somehow* (And we all know stuff has a habit of getting to the public in some shape or form quite easily nowadays)
Scenario:
I write "Cool Song", and copyright it. Since I just wrote one song, I don't intend to try and market it yet and want to keep it private for possible future use. However, I give a copy to a friend to check out. Without my knowledge, he throws it up on his public FTP.
Right there, he broke copyright. If you decide to download the song, you break copyright. Why? Because I don't want it distributed.
Why is this important? Say in 6 years, I've written 10 "Cool Songs" and want to put out an album. But because of infringement, my stuff has been out for years. Most people have heard it already, and already have copies of it. This will obviously affect the marketability of my work. Heck, perhaps I wrote the song for a loved one, and don't want anyone else to have it. That is my right as a copyright holder.
The point is that it is NOT okay to obtain copyrighted work simply because the content holder does not make it available legitimately for you. As a content holder, I have no responsibility to sell you my work, and you have no right to get it by other means if I choose not to. You have NO right to take something I created without my permission. Once it enters public domain, then you can have at it.
Am I more clear now?
(P.S. - Copyright is actually established upon creation of the work. Filing for it simply makes it much easier to defend, as you have documentation.)
In the Venom mini-series, Brock had a mullet.
Psycho redneck journalist from outer space. Now THATS a movie.
Brock was already beefy, but I'm sure they'll take artistic license in the movie. I'm curious how they get the alien symbiote in there in the first place. I seriously doubt they're sending spidey into space, giving him the suit, giving him time to become aware that it's alive, get rid of it, and it finding Brock and trying to kill Spidey.
I bet it's another Oscorp 'innovation'.
Because regardless of how I intend to use my creation, it's still my intellectual property. I have the right to choose how it is distributed.
You're basically saying: "If you don't want to sell it, then we can take it for free." That just doesn't make sense.
Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright
A copyright is a set of exclusive rights granted by government for a limited time to regulate the use of a particular form, way or manner in which an idea or information is expressed.
I know it's not straight from copyright law, but it looks fairly accurate. Copyrighting a work does not necessitate publication.
Yeah, but that's a different scenario. What you're talking about is what public domain is for. (Or at least what it's supposed to be for)
I guess it comes down to a respect thing. If I make it, and don't want it distributed, people should respect my request as long as the work is still copyrighted. You may not disagree with my decision to withold the work, but it is my right to do so. After that copyright expires, you can do whatever the heck you want with it. (I disagree with the ability to extend copyrights indefinitely, btw)
Okay, bad choice of words. How about "Obtain a copy of the work without permission"
Just curious: If you donate to the P2P service, how does that help the people who actually created the content you're downloading?
Wait, it doesn't.
I agree that new distribution models need to be created for media. Systems like iTunes are good attempts at it. However I don't think using and supporting P2P programs that do not compensate content producers at all is helping at all.
adapting this to the issue at hand:
Say I write a really cool song. I copyright it, but have no interest in distributing. I keep it in my private collection and want it to stay there. Do you have the right to force your way in there to obtain a copy? It doesn't matter if you're willing to pay. It doesn't matter if I'm not losing revenue because I wasn't selling it in the first place. It's my song, and I have the right to limit what's done with it.
Content producers have no responsibility to provide you with anything. If they don't want to sell it, you're SOL.
And the MPAA doesn't give a crap about the commercials. The broadcast stations do. All those stations that paid for the right to air episodes of the Simpsons to attract advertisers.
TV stations pay for the right to distribute. You do not. I'm not sure how it works for rentals, but I'm sure the MPAA gets some bank from them as well.
Actually it makes the assumption that any media is illegal. No checking for DRM or any of that nonsense.
It does nothing of the sort. It just finds all the media files it can and lists them as possibly illegal. The user has to go through the list and mark the legit files.
In the hands of a typical luser, this thing will wipe out ANY media on the machine.
But is it a legally acquired, authorized copy of "Folsom Prison Blues"?
IIRC Nintendo makes a profit on every GC console sold. Everyone else sells at a loss. (Mebbe not this late in the cycle, but definitely at release) The GC is still a contributor to Nintendo's profits.
But they're not the norm. How many people will have all that hardware at their disposal?
Except for the fact that Sega was facing bankruptcy, and Nintendo is posting consistent profits.
Yeah, thats exactly the same situation.
Halo was going to be a Mac game first, not PC.
/nitpick