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Spider-Man 3 Villains: Sandman & Venom
datemenatalie writes "As posted on ComingSoon.net, "Kirsten Dunst confirmed rumors to Zap2it that Thomas Haden Church will play Sandman and Topher Grace is Venom in director Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3." As written, ""We have really great people though as the villains in this film, Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace -- Venom and Sandman," said Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films. "Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that," she added before reversing her claim. "It's the other way around. You're right," she conceded to a journalist." Spider-Man 3 is set for release on May 4, 2007."
How can we have a villain who looks like he just hit puberty?
"I'd take over the city right now...but I have to stop at CVS for Clearasil first"
It's when they start putting multiple big names in villain roles that these superhero franchises usually start to go straight to hell. Everybody wants screen time even at the expense of comprehensible storyline. Case in point, Batman and Robin, the worst movie ever made.
Old news...Diggreported this two and a half weeks ago. Also, in addition to Venom and Sandman, the Hobgoblin will be played by James Franco (see Freeze Dried Movies for the scoop).
James Franco as Hobgoblin looks to be a good call, and Thomas Hayden Church is a lock for Sandman, but Topher Grace as Venom??? Seriously...I think Grace is a decent enough actor, but can he pull off Eddie Brock? Personally, I think he would have been better cast as Cletus Kasady (aka Carnage).
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Topher Grace as Venom? He's so small/weak. The only thing that would be worse is if they cast his clone Tobey Mcquire as Spiderma....oh....wait.
Seriously, I can see Topher being absolutely evil in the role of Venom, with just enough humor to be scary.
I never understood what Sandman's story was...anyone care to enlighten me?
Sony pictures has hired a band of rogue ninjas to kill Kirsten Dunst.
Or maybe, she -was-supposed to say it. Hey, free publicity!
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Why not Venom and Carnage? At least they kinda go together.
And yet another publicity stunt ("accidentally" releasing characters and names in an upcoming movie) works perfectly.
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Both villans are great, but I don't see how they're going to cram them both into the same movie. They're not exactly compatable. Plus they're both great villians (better than the comic book Doc. Oct at least), and I have no doubt either one could carry a movie alone.
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With Topher Grace as Venom, I'd expect Kurtwood Smith to show up and tell Venom to behave or he'll be wearing Red's foot up his ass.
Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace -- Venom and Sandman," said Dunst, who plays Mary Jane Watson in the Spidey films. "Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that," she added before reversing her claim.
If you read carefully, you will realize that what she really means is that she will be playing Sandman, Thomas Haden will be playing Venom, and Topher will be playing Mary Jane. I might just pay for this one as they will finally have a sexy Mary Jane. Dunst just never did it for me.
I'm betting Dunst and Venom hook up this time.
It should say: Dunst who plays Kirsten Dunst in every film that she has ever done.
She's perky but that's not acting.
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Spoiler alert would've been nice...
....they kill the entire franchise.
Stuffing 2 or 3 villians in with no time to develop the characters, especially the Venom character is the dumbest idea ever. Didn't they watch the Batman movies after the first one?
Erm, have you ever seen DareDevil? Daredevil and Spider-man exist in the same universe (AFAIK) and in DD Kinpin was played by Michael Clarke Duncan. I thought he did a pretty good job of it too. Colin Farrell on the other hand, still had the usual irish accent (Alexander anyone?) and the wide-eyed-vibrating-eyebrows look he uses for shock/surprise/anger/sadness/sorrow/everything.
Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace? Can you say "Jump the Shark"? Sam, what are you doing to us?
In the comics, Venom is composed of an alien symbiotic suit and the person, Eddie Brock. The Venom persona does look very muscular, but I think the alien symbiote would have a great part in giving Venom his menacing form.
My theory is that in the movie, Topher Grace will get "beefed-up" by the alien symbiotic suit.
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And it's official: Bruce Campbell is playing Spiderman.
If only they can work in Kevin Smith somehow, we'll be treated to hilarious single-cut 15 minute scenes of conversations between frustrated and impotent twentysomethings waxing intellectual about every topics. And then Jay will make a joke about drugs! Ha ha!
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I think it will probably wind up being the other way around, with church playing venom and grace playing sandman. That is at least what the rumors have said all along.
Poor little spidey can barely handle 1, how is he supposed to handle 2 villians? And I totally agree, how did they come up with sandman and venom? Carnage and venom would go together much better and could actually be an interesting movie. The spiderman series has done well with the 2 movies so far, why would they risk what they have built by adding 2 villians in one movie?
Venom is not suppose to be there.
Peter Parker nneds to find the costume first in that other dimension,,use it at least a couple of movies before figuring that the sentient being is trying to control him and getting help from Richard reed to get rid of it,,,then it finds another host.
Guest they think people are dumb
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Venom:
Height: 6 ft. 3 in.
Weight: 260 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Redish Blond
Topher? Not so much, no.
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Venom was the creation of the costume/alien that Spider-Man picked up during the Secret Wars which, likely, never happens in Raimi's Spider-Man universe. So keeping faithful to the origin in casting is useless when the origin is going to be altered.
I realize that comics and comic book movies are horribly inclined to mangle plotlines worse than a B soap opera, but wouldn't it be more logical if Kingpin was actually Michael Clark Duncan (the guy who played it in Daredevil).
Also, it might be fun to include someone like Daredevil in the Spidey flick, as a cameo. You know, Ben Affleck with dark shades and civilian clothes tapping his way around with a cane in the background of some scene...
Venom is the bastardization of the symbiote suit Spiderman got from Battleworld. They will have to explain the birth story of the character again. Hell, even Reed Richards from the Fantastic Four had his part in the "creation" of Venom.
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Does anyone remember the Spiderman vs. Seabiscuit fiasco?
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Topher Grace was (strongly rumored) to replace Tobey Maguire for Spiderman 2, due to injuries Maguire suffered during the shooting of Seabiscuit.
There were a few refs to it on That '70s Show as well.
(hey, I don't do unemployment that well
Now that my symbiate knows the cast, he'll definitely make me go see it!
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Man I hope they don't mess this one up, they did good on the first 2, and now that they are going to be introducing Venom, that's a huge thing (at least IMO). If they do a good job on Venom I will be pleased, personally.
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Not sure why they wouldn't have used Eddie from the first movie: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0263472/ He looks more the part.
Oh well.. I still have faith in Raimi- for now. I'd be lying if I said trying to fit Venom in before doing a movie with Spidey in the alien suit doesn't make me worried.
Venom Is supposed to weigh 260 pounds there's no way in hell Topher can fit that role.
A Picture of Venom compared to a Picture of Topher
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If that was Kirsten Dunst "acting", then who is the living zombie they call Kirsten Dunst?
Seriously in keeping with the hiphopmification of everything they have to make Spiderman Black. Hell he's not raised by his parents, he's alienated and poor. Julia Stiles can play his GF.
Seriously though, I love seeing how Bruce Campbell gets put into the movies. I nearly died when I saw the first movie. I think it is great not only because I like some of the stuff Campbell has done, but also that Raimi still manages to get him into his movies.
"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb."
That should read, "Kirsten Dunst was told by the movie's publicity firm to accidentally confirm..."
Folks- the only thing actors do independently is get arrested for DUI or drug posession. Everything else, they're told to do by their publicist or the publicist for the movie/studio.
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Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream
Make him the cutest that I've ever seen
Give him two lips like roses and clover
Then tell him that his lonesome nights are over.
Sandman, I'm so alone
Don't have nobody to call my own
Please turn on your magic beam
Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream.
Hmm... uh, is there another Mr. Sandman?
Venom wasn't just some evil version of spiderman, he was better than spiderman - stronger, faster, able to beat his spidey-sense.
That's only if you're talking about the classic character. In the Ultimate series, Eddie was about Peter's age, son of a colleague of Peter's father. And really, I think that's going to be closer to how we're going to get this because we don't really have enough time to explain "new costume from alien machine during massive crossover" as happened in the original series.
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Only if Venom could kick his ass onscreen.
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Topher could play Eddie Brock, he'll definitely be a lot smaller than what we remember him as being but it could work. Venom does add some heavy muscle on Eddie when in the suit and since I'm expecting Venom to be mostly CG anyway I think it will be fine.
What I want to know is when we're going to see the Man-Spider arc. And yes, I'm serious, I actually liked it.
And also...
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In Ultimate Spiderman, Venom was a symbiote suit built by Peter Parker and Eddie Brock's fathers as a cancer fighting suit (no I'm not making this up). Both Peter and Eddie are smart in this universe. Unlike the traditional Marvel universe where Brock was a beefed up photographer. Sounds like they might be using the origin from Ultimate Spiderman instead. In this one, Brock is just as small as Parker (but doesn't dress as a science nerd, but as a grunge rocker). That would sorta fit in casting Topher Grace for the role.
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It would also tie in nicely given that one of the Ultimate Spiderman storylines had Sam Raimi using footage of Spiderman while filming his movie which used Toby MaGuire and Kirtsen Dunst. Obviously, Raimi is just lifting the storylines from real-life events. They're not movies; they're documentaries!
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Here's the Sandmen lineup: - The guy made of sand (marvel sandman) - Dream / Oineros/ Sandman / etc, the Neil Gaiman Sandman - A couple of Logan's Run Sandmen - The Kirby-era Sandman guy with the mask and sleep gun hrm. who'm I missing?
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I had hoped for the Lizard and Green Gob to be the main villains of SM 3... SM 2 seemed to be pointing in that direction...
Perhaps they're filming 3 and 4 at the same time and she's confused? (or purposely misinforming?)
And Venom is going to be tough to explain in a short origin cut during SM 3, since Venom is partly the creature SM used as his black SM suit after the whole Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars thing... (wonders what that mini series collection is worth in mint in mylar) And the whole part where the Fantastic 4 examine the suit and break it to him that it's not fabric, but alive? And during that time period, wasn't Peter/Spidy seeing the Black Cat? Not MJ?
The story changes so far had been tolerable (Gwen Stacy never existing, etc.) But what they'll have to do to get Venom in SM 3? Can't see it as a good thing.
incrementing the number of villains/allies is standard in making a blockbuster sequel ...
Batman (1989) : 1 villains
Batman 2 (1992) : 2 villains
Batman 3 (1995) : 2 villains plus 1 sidekick!
Batman 4 (1997) : 2 villains plus 2 sidekicks!
If we look at Spidey 2, we saw hints at the new Goblin and Lizard Man but they didn't have big roles in the movie. Most of the conflict came from Doc Oc. Perhaps in 3, Sandman will be the big opponent while Venom might show up as an introductory role. Venom is a hugely popular villain/hero in the Marvel universe with a complete and interesting back story. It would be nigh impossible to have both villains in the movie without subtracting from the plot/quality. If I were Raimi, I would set it up that Spidey uses the symbiote against Sandman, realizes the suit is bad, gets rid of it (with or without F4's help) and we end with Eddie Brock finding it, setting up the next film (and a possible spinoff).
I'm actually surprised that there has been no mention of the new Goblin or Lizard Man especially after being set up by Spidey 2. In any case, just because it's said that Topher Grace is in the movie, it doesn't mean he will have a huge role (yet).
Can you sell more Exciting Flexible Collectible Action Figures, T-shirts, Sippy-Cups, Left-handed Staplers, and Nintendo Dongles(TM) if you have more villains?
Sure! But no one will want to see the frickin' movie. The plot will have holes. Motivations will be murky. No one will care about the characters.
Just tell a damn good story and the money will take care of itself. Leave the over-the-top merchandizing and box office flops to Disney. They're the masters of that.
They can get Steve Ballmer to play the role. His powers could be to render 85% of the world's computers powerless with his BSOD and the ability to spread virii through entire companies in a single bound.
The story line for venom/carnage in the Ultimate Spiderman comic is far easier an explanation that doesn't require any space travel. In that version the costume was an experiment in heliopathic technology that wraps the body in a special fluid that then diagnoses the disease and cures it. Spiderman was curious about the experiment after talking to Eddy Brock whos father was best freinds with Peters father, who was head of the project. He went to the lab that was once his fathers and pokes around. He finds the canister of black stuff, sticks his finger in it and the venom material wraps around him and picks up the mutated spider genes from Peter Parker. The genes are now permanently part of the "suit" and when Eddie comes around to the Lab he finds the stuff spilt on the floor and Spiderman fleeing the scene. He touches the venom substance and it immediately attacks him and engulfs his personality and transfixes on finishing the assimilation of Spiderman. Carnage wasn't brought in because the writter didn't like venom particularly but still wrote an interesting story. The Ultimate Spiderman Brock was just a normal kid who was trying to be cool even though he was a genious level geek like Peter and his father. Made him kind of annoying to Peter and everyone else. Hence the paranoid anger that the new venom took on.
On that same topic kinda, X-Men 3 will most likely use the same "Ultimate" version for the Phoenix storyline. No space battles. No Dark Phoenix Saga. Jean Grey just goes nuts with her ever expanding powers and creates the Phoenix personality to deal with the guilt and anger it unleases. The whole time she's been with Xavier he has been stunting her powers so she doesn't go nuts and wipe out city. Oh yea and the Hell Fire Club is part of the whole shabang as well. Pretty cool stuff but this is just a guess at what the script will follow.
I like the fact that you say that as though it's really really hard. "Raimi still manages to get [Campbell] into his movies." Now, do you think it would be hard because Campbell is so busy that he would normally refuse a part in a huge blockbuster?
Or do you mean to imply that it'd be hard to slip him past the security guards who've been ordered to keep him off the studio lot?
William Shatner... I win.
Sam Raimi's yellow 1973 Oldsmobile.
For those of you who don't know, the car appears in pretty much everything Raimi does. It was in the Evil Dead movies (though a "stunt double" was used for some parts). In Spiderman 1, Peter's grandfather drove it when he dropped him off for the library / wrestling event. I haven't seen Spiderman 2, so I don't know where it appears in that.
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"Also, it might be fun to include someone like Daredevil in the Spidey flick, as a cameo. You know, Ben Affleck with dark shades and civilian clothes tapping his way around with a cane in the background of some scene..."
yeah, because everyone knows how well a movie does when Ben Affleck is in it...
Toby was a good spider man.. he fit the cast perfectly.. Kristen Dunst... she didn't look anything like the comic books.. In X-Men.. Wolverine was almost right, except he was too tall. Storm was too young...
You know she might have purposefully spread misinformation about who the villans are. Personally i think Church would be better as venom and gracey as sandman.
Call me crazy, but that does not bring images of Topher Grace.
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Spidey got the black suit during the secret wars - he shed the suit after it began doing crimes using Peter Parker's body while PP was sleeping. I lost interest (briefly) in comics after the secret wars, and I don't know all the much about venom in the current continuity.
Topher Grace could have played Peter Parker, and IMO, that makes him a good choice for Venom.
How about Electro or Mysterio... eck, even hamerhead would be nice...
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Venom, Hobgoblin AND Sandman?! It sounds too much like there will just be pure special effects, zero plot and no character development.
Honestly, how much screen time plus backplot could you really give three bad guys in 120 minutes? They have to deal with their "birth" as well as their interactions with Spider-Man, each other, and their own intensions.
The should have just gone with Venom on this one and used it as a way to explore a superhero's dark side.
First of all, let me say that Spiderman has never totally followed the comics. So any diversion here is nothing new. But hey, who cares? Spiderman 1 & 2 are still my top two favorite movies. This comming from a guy who never read the comics. If they director can make it look beleiveable and have a story, it will rock. That's what the other movies had. A great storyline.
As far as the Sandman thing goes, aleph.com says that spiderman and sandman were allies. What if they make it so that you have a Spiderman & Sandman vs. Hobgoblin & Venom?
Another thing I always wanted to see in these movies is have a villian come out of nowhere, trash the city a bit, and then have Spiderman come in and beat the snot out of him in 5 minutes flat. And have all that as the opening of the movie. Why do the battles have to last for 10 minutes with Spiderman almost dieing each time. If he's smart at all, he should have way more experience at the whole superpower thing by now.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
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Ok. Venom I like, but I was hoping Doctor Curt Connors would finally become Lizard. Oh well, i guess Sandman will do. Two thumbs up on using Venom (too bad a 2-3 hour movie is not long enough to work in Carnage).
Are the Spiderman films the "new" Batman? Are all of the villians to be played by celebrities of the moment?
With that said, i like Thomas Haden Church. Just dont want to see him as the sandman... cause its not going to be beleivable.
And live in your mom's basement?
in spidey 2, campbell said he would be the one to defeat spidey, and in a way he did. So one would expect there to be a little bit of truth to his claim now that he will be Spider-man. Maybe posing as a fake spidey for a bugle hackjob or something.
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I was under the impression thus far that they were taking more from the Ultimate line of books for the majority of licensing/movie deals anymore then from the original 'universe'. In Ultimate, Eddie isn't a huge lumbering guy....he's smaller like Peter (not as small, but still).
Thomas Haden Church will play as Venom and Topher Grace as Carnage.
Also James Franco will play a small role as the goblin at the beginning of the movie.
There will be no Sandman in this movie.
Don't say something is the Worst Movie Ever Made until you've seen this stinker.
It's about a guy who's murdered, and his brain is transplanted into a dinosaur (by the people who murdered him), and his quest to win back his girlfriend.
Even the premise screams "WHO LET ONE RIP?"
I've always thought Bruce Campbell would be perfect to play Kimball Kinnison in a movie based on any of the Lens books. That lantern jaw and righteous but bemused attitude would be a perfect fit.
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For those of you that think Topher Grace is poor casting as Venom, you're right IF they use the normal Marvel Universe (Universe 616) version of Venom. However the Venom from Ultimate Spiderman would work great for Topher Grace. A childhood friend of Peter's who is going to college and continuing the research began by his and Peter's parents. The research project ends up becoming the Venom suit after interaction with Peter. This version of Venom is a college science nerd and more of an anti-Spiderman then the alien symbiote of the normal Marvel Universe. Considering Sam Raimi's voiced dislike of the Venom character I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to go with this alternate interpretation.
I'll think this is even more likely if the Venom from the new Ultimate Spiderman game turns out to have the same Ultimate storyline.
I mean, except for the eyes and big white spider, the character isn't going to work very well on screen, due to his being solid black (with little to no reflective surfaces). Why not use Carnage instead? Far more over the top, and the costume would have a much greater screen presence.
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Dig a link further into Daredevil and read the triva, about halfway down the page they mention that because the characters were licensed by different movie studios the characters can't crossover.
actually, in Spiderman 2 Thomas Jane makes a cameo in the scene when M.J. runs through the park at the conclusion of the film. From the wikipedia
Id like to see maybe some Fantastic Four cameos. Ben Grimm and Spidey fighting and trading barbs could be good.
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can't wait til the next He-man comes out.. we all know how popular the last one was.. maybe Kirsten could play She-ra, Tobey can play He-man.. oh wait..
Yea, I really wonder how they're going to pull off the Venom backstory, what with the hugeness and divergence of the Secret Wars series. I guess they could do a LotR like mini story at the beginning, zooming over all the details and just giving the quick background with lots of effects.
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From WikiPedia:
It's interesting to note that whilst the original version of Venom had a personal vendetta on Spider-Man, he just knew he was Peter Parker, this version had a vendetta against Peter and the Spider-Man identity meant nothing to him."
Not true. The original version of Venom's vendetta was against Peter Parker as well. Eddie Brock hated Parker b/c he blamed him for the fact that Brock was fired from the Daily Bugle. I'm not sure about the symbiote; it hated Peter Parker/Spiderman for rejecting it, I don't know that there was ever anything to suggest it distinguished between them.
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If they could only ditch Toby. He's the lamest spider man ever.
Having mulitple villians is a poor idea. Two villians does not give you enough time to get a good background, and understand the villians motivation.
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Unless Topher Grace starts on steroids now, there is no way he could play Venom.
Having read though the intro to Venom as a kid during the Marvel Secret Wars era, I distinctly remember that the person inside the venom costume was almost as big as the Hulk! His hatred for Peter Parker was so great that all he did was work out to prepare for his fight.
Er, I thought that the prospective replacement was Jake Gyllenhaal.
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I see at imbd.com that dr. connors is back. Could this be the mutation sickness there were hints of in spiderman 2? Hints, such as ie peter losing his powers. I wonder if sam rami or stan lee might include this in spiderman 3. I like that they cast venom but sandman? I think carnage would have been better. but I think it will interesting none the less. just my two cent and speculations, schunn99
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but we're thinking of the animated series, right? not the one that was on mtv for a while but the earlier one. i guess it was a lot different from the comic than i had thought it was, i never read the comic. also venom, when he separated from peter parker, joined with that jock guy or something and got all beefed up. how can the guy from that 70's show play him?
Campbell's been assuring people for quite sometime he was going to be in Spiderman 3 "annoying spiderman" in some unspecified manner. How does that fit in with this?
I'd pay to see that.
Imagine what Peter Parkers's super powers would have been if he were bitten by a radioactive dungbeetle! - "Oh no! He's rolling a giant turd ball at me!!!"
..........FULL STOP.
Boy, she has a little trouble keeping her mouth shut, doesn't she? Course, she was wrong about that one, maybe she's wrong about this one too...
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
I don't remember seeing spiderman reading slashdot in the movie at all.
I liked my Venom: Well built- Gracefull, anti-hero-hero. Why not a Honkong Kung Fu action actor Hero be Venom? Chow-Yun-Fat or a number of others? (Mabie Jackie Chan but he'd have to have a dub teem) Or is it more that they want someone with a british/american accent as Venom? (LOL Morgan Fishborn-Actuall has a strong Kung Fu background for the grace and has a wicked sense of humour)
Venom is supposed to be 6'3"(1.91M) and 260(125 kg) lbs - built like a big American football fullback, or the Rock (WWF pro wrestler). Topher Grace is 5'11"(1.80m) and maybe 165lbs(75 kg) - he's built like.........a skinny actor.
Clearly, a judicious use of foam, muscle padding will needed. Clearly, another actor should have been picked to play Venom with any justice.
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Secret Wars (in which Spider-Man received the black costume) and Secret Wars 2 (in which a suddenly individualized God comes to Earth), are the best comic stories I can remember. Definitely worth a read.
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OK, Daredevil is the only thing I've seen Colin Ferrell in, and I gotta say - WTF!??!
I thought he was supposed to be some A-list actor.. is he really that bad an actor, or was he doing a Jeremy-Irons-D&D "I've decided I hate this movie, so I'm gonna be *SO* bad that the studio will can it and burn the negatives?"
He was so godawful it's beyond description. When I watched him, all I could think of was wanting to engage in something less painful, like sticking a glass rod in my urethra and smashing it with a hammer.
Did he feel sorry for Shane Brolly's performance in Underworld, and decide that he'd do something that made that idiot look like Sir Lawrence Olivier?
I'd like to know if he's that bad in everything, or if Daredevil was something special, but I can't bring myself to watch something else he's in.
What, Venom and Sandman are playing Thomans Haden Church and Topher Grace? Now that I would pay to see.