What order do you want your politicians and leaders to do things in?
1. Assure that not one citizen of this country is murdered. 2. Assure that not one citizen of this country is raped.
Clearly murdering someone is worse than rape. Quite bluntly, yes I agree that we should keep raping people until not one single person is murdered. There are only so many hours in the day. Then once we have solved that, we can start thinking about whether to give citizens basic rights.
> Animals deserve rights when they can specifically ask for them. The moment a chimp makes a sign on its own asking for equal treatment, I say we give it to them. Until then, it's monkey brains for dinner...
Exactly! And the same applies to human babies. I say human rights starts at age 2. It certainly shuts up those anti-abortionists.
Now I have no idea what I would like for dinner, but I'm not that fond of monkeys. They smell of bananas. I'll just look around the house an see if I can find something tasty.
> Wow, if you think that's as good of a solution as the one I proposed, I pity you. I really do.
Oh, I have doubt that it is a better solution. I think mostly I was just trying to point out how your argument is stupid.
I agree with your point that chimps should be given more rights based on their intelligence and behaviour, but not at all with your methodology. Comparing chimps to disabled humans is dumb and degrading (both to the chimps and the humans).
Why do we have to give them human rights? Why not just improve chimp rights?
Example: What if scientists discover that a chimp is able to make the decision about whether or not to drink alcohol at the age of 20, instead of the human age of 21. Why should we say to a chimp 'Well now you have human rights so you have to do everything like a human does'? Humans and chimps are different.
I say give them the rights they deserve, as proven by science, but don't start calling them 'human rights'. They're still chimp rights.
> Then compare that with the lowest human being and work your way up through the human being scale (if the chimp is better then the lowest human beings we have) until we find a type of human (most likely suffering some form of mental retardation) that is comparable with your average chimp. Then assign those human beings the same rights as that chimp has. In other words, lock them up in a cage in a zoo and laugh at them.
> Now, this is the important part: He's used to XP. He's used to an OS, that while sucky, worked well enough for him, was relatively speedy, so why can't he just have that? Why does he have to have something replaced that worked just to put up with this shit?
If instead of giving up after a day, he had tried it for a week or a month, he would have found out how great everything is. Then in a few months he would be used to it and if you try to make him downgrade to XP he will cry.
There are many great features in Vista, but you have to try it for yourself.
> I have been using Debian since 1995 in production and it has yet to disappoint me. For me, it is the best operating system around, and I would put it on top of the list!
Vista is the best operating system by far, and if you disagree I will set Steve Ballmer on you.
> We've got the source, so stuff can be rebuilt every time backward compatibility breaks. But that's definitely *not* a good thing
MOD PARENT UP! Agreed! I for one *hate* having source code. It makes no sense to me - especially when written in some crazy out-dated language like C++. I'd much rather just get the binary, or if it has to be source, then I want it in something that doesn't need to be compiled like Python or Unlambda.
> so how exactly is turning a 300 dollar machine with less than 1/3 the speed make sense economically?
Because sometimes speed doesn't matter. Most desktop applications are not processor bound any more. Processor speed is not the only thing to consider when buying a computer. Sure, it's worth considering, but you make it sound like it is the only factor to consider when buying a computer.
> Besides I'm sure you can find them for 500 bucks or so since they've been around for so long...
Why are you comparing the price of buying a brand new Apple TV to buying a second-hand Mac Mini. You are comparing Apples and err.. older Apples. If you are going to state the price of both, either give the new price of both, or the second-hand price of both.
I think for the vast majority of ordinary users, getting a Mac Mini is worth the extra cost, but this would still a pretty cool hack if you don't need the extra computing power and you want to save some money. (Though it is probably an April Fool's joke).
> Microsoft and their products will never go away. There will always be people using Windows, Office, and whatever.
I think that depends more on Microsoft not messing up than it does on the Open Source Community. Microsoft do make mistakes occasionally, and trying to cut down on piracy will kill them in the end.
> "We won't even give you tech support for the FreeDOS that comes in the package. All we'll do is replace your hardware if it breaks."
If you are buying one of these computers, it's likely that you already know more about your operating system of choice than their technical support does. I doubt that phoning them would help much even if they offered a support contract. They don't seriously expect anyone to use FreeDOS and they can't support every operating system in existence.
There are plenty of companies that offer support contracts for various operating systems if you really do need the extra help.
If people from corporations are maimed or killed by this DRM somehow, then Slashdot might be OK with it.
Of course we will. Didn't you read the disclaimer? I think the GPL contains the text 'If this program kills you and/or your cat (either accidentally or intentionally), we can not be held responsible.' or something similar.
Why do people even argue about whether or not it is OK to call "copyright infringement" "stealing"? Just call it the globally acceptable phrase "copyright infringement" and save us all the huge argument already!
Thanks!
(Something tells me that my calm and reason is not on this occasion going to be enough to single-handedly stop the flame-war...)
Actually it is not stored locally in Javascript. I assume that the information is stored in some sort of filesystem / database and converted to Javascript on the fly to ease integration with other applications. You can also get the same information as XML if you prefer:
It can be exploit by writing a callback function in Javascript, that can do anything, and then passing it to the above link, which gives your function all the users contact info.
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What order do you want your politicians and leaders to do things in?
1. Assure that not one citizen of this country is murdered.
2. Assure that not one citizen of this country is raped.
Clearly murdering someone is worse than rape. Quite bluntly, yes I agree that we should keep raping people until not one single person is murdered. There are only so many hours in the day. Then once we have solved that, we can start thinking about whether to give citizens basic rights.
> Animals deserve rights when they can specifically ask for them. The moment a chimp makes a sign on its own asking for equal treatment, I say we give it to them. Until then, it's monkey brains for dinner...
Exactly! And the same applies to human babies. I say human rights starts at age 2. It certainly shuts up those anti-abortionists.
Now I have no idea what I would like for dinner, but I'm not that fond of monkeys. They smell of bananas. I'll just look around the house an see if I can find something tasty.
> The US has a monkey president ..[/obligatory]
I don't know which is funnier... this comment... or the "+5 Insightful" moderation!
> Wow, if you think that's as good of a solution as the one I proposed, I pity you. I really do.
Oh, I have doubt that it is a better solution. I think mostly I was just trying to point out how your argument is stupid.
I agree with your point that chimps should be given more rights based on their intelligence and behaviour, but not at all with your methodology. Comparing chimps to disabled humans is dumb and degrading (both to the chimps and the humans).
Why do we have to give them human rights? Why not just improve chimp rights?
Example: What if scientists discover that a chimp is able to make the decision about whether or not to drink alcohol at the age of 20, instead of the human age of 21. Why should we say to a chimp 'Well now you have human rights so you have to do everything like a human does'? Humans and chimps are different.
I say give them the rights they deserve, as proven by science, but don't start calling them 'human rights'. They're still chimp rights.
> Then compare that with the lowest human being and work your way up through the human being scale (if the chimp is better then the lowest human beings we have) until we find a type of human (most likely suffering some form of mental retardation) that is comparable with your average chimp. Then assign those human beings the same rights as that chimp has. In other words, lock them up in a cage in a zoo and laugh at them.
There, fixed it for you.
WPA can also be broken, and unlike WEP, you only need to sniff one packet. Tools to crack a WPA key are freely downloadable.
> Now, this is the important part: He's used to XP. He's used to an OS, that while sucky, worked well enough for him, was relatively speedy, so why can't he just have that? Why does he have to have something replaced that worked just to put up with this shit?
If instead of giving up after a day, he had tried it for a week or a month, he would have found out how great everything is. Then in a few months he would be used to it and if you try to make him downgrade to XP he will cry.
There are many great features in Vista, but you have to try it for yourself.
> So take your Vista turd and fuck yourself. Asshole.
Yes, a typical Linux fanboy reaction, just as I was expecting. Thanks for proving my point.
What's wrong with Vista?
I hate all the Linux fanboys on Slashdot. Just try Vista. It's not that expensive. If you can afford a computer, you can afford a copy of Vista.
> Now I am going on holidays, and wont waste more time here. ;)
;)
Have a nice holiday! When you come back, maybe you will love Vista!
> So if I click on the 'vote' link in the article I can still vote but it won't infuence the outcome?
Yeah, that's how voting works these days. How do you think Bush won?
> Vista may be best for you, but I cannot understand why it takes 7 minutes to reboot a modern computer.
Why reboot? Use hibernate. You'll be up and running in a matter of seconds, and even better... all your applications are still open.
> I have been using Debian since 1995 in production and it has yet to disappoint me. For me, it is the best operating system around, and I would put it on top of the list!
Vista is the best operating system by far, and if you disagree I will set Steve Ballmer on you.
> We've got the source, so stuff can be rebuilt every time backward compatibility breaks. But that's definitely *not* a good thing
MOD PARENT UP! Agreed! I for one *hate* having source code. It makes no sense to me - especially when written in some crazy out-dated language like C++. I'd much rather just get the binary, or if it has to be source, then I want it in something that doesn't need to be compiled like Python or Unlambda.
> so how exactly is turning a 300 dollar machine with less than 1/3 the speed make sense economically?
Because sometimes speed doesn't matter. Most desktop applications are not processor bound any more. Processor speed is not the only thing to consider when buying a computer. Sure, it's worth considering, but you make it sound like it is the only factor to consider when buying a computer.
> Besides I'm sure you can find them for 500 bucks or so since they've been around for so long...
Why are you comparing the price of buying a brand new Apple TV to buying a second-hand Mac Mini. You are comparing Apples and err.. older Apples. If you are going to state the price of both, either give the new price of both, or the second-hand price of both.
I think for the vast majority of ordinary users, getting a Mac Mini is worth the extra cost, but this would still a pretty cool hack if you don't need the extra computing power and you want to save some money. (Though it is probably an April Fool's joke).
> Microsoft and their products will never go away. There will always be people using Windows, Office, and whatever.
I think that depends more on Microsoft not messing up than it does on the Open Source Community. Microsoft do make mistakes occasionally, and trying to cut down on piracy will kill them in the end.
> And why are there 2 comments about Vista, and just one of each other oses? Because windows has a bigger market share?
No. It's because you have to say twice as much to make Vista sound good.
> "We won't even give you tech support for the FreeDOS that comes in the package. All we'll do is replace your hardware if it breaks."
If you are buying one of these computers, it's likely that you already know more about your operating system of choice than their technical support does. I doubt that phoning them would help much even if they offered a support contract. They don't seriously expect anyone to use FreeDOS and they can't support every operating system in existence.
There are plenty of companies that offer support contracts for various operating systems if you really do need the extra help.
If people from corporations are maimed or killed by this DRM somehow, then Slashdot might be OK with it.
Of course we will. Didn't you read the disclaimer? I think the GPL contains the text 'If this program kills you and/or your cat (either accidentally or intentionally), we can not be held responsible.' or something similar.
And if it doesn't, it should!
Why do people even argue about whether or not it is OK to call "copyright infringement" "stealing"? Just call it the globally acceptable phrase "copyright infringement" and save us all the huge argument already!
Thanks!
(Something tells me that my calm and reason is not on this occasion going to be enough to single-handedly stop the flame-war...)
Actually it is not stored locally in Javascript. I assume that the information is stored in some sort of filesystem / database and converted to Javascript on the fly to ease integration with other applications. You can also get the same information as XML if you prefer:
http://docs.google.com/data/contacts
http://docs.google.com/data/contacts?out=js&show=A LL&psort=Affinity&callback=google&max=99999
It can be exploit by writing a callback function in Javascript, that can do anything, and then passing it to the above link, which gives your function all the users contact info.
Of course it's legal. Making that illegal would be like saying it's illegal to copy music from iTunes to an iPod.
Ah you mean it's legal as long as the music you buy is DRM'd? I guess that makes sense. After all non-DRM'd music is dangerous, right?
Even better would be having automatic wireless updates of that music library from your homw computer.
Is that even legal? I thought fair use was dead long ago.