They're still around. One of my projects just got 4 NEC digi-pagers from Ameripage (I think). We need them for alerts that need to be serviced immediately and cell phones could not give us a consistent response time nor offered any quality assurance guarantees that the pager company was willing to give.
However, I think this is a case of Open Source's "It's ready when it's ready" attitude clashing with T-Mobile's and HTC's we really need to release our phone by Oct 23.
Actually if there was blame to assess, I would assign it to T-Mobile. They saw the 3G data market passing them by since they concentrated more on voice calls than anything else and needed to throw something out there before ATT/Apple and Verizon took all the market share. So they decided to take a risk with the Android platform (to ride Google's coat tails into the wireless internet market) and picked HTC to make another custom handset for them. To make things worse, they wanted it out before the holidays.
Now we have a Beta OS, on a ugly phone with no standard headphone jack, on a network that is too small and weak to really matter.
I still like Android, but this is a case of poorly executing the product release. I knew it was going to be bad when Google started stripping things out of the SDK to make the deadline, and T-Mobile stupidly had a press conference to brag about a phone that wasn't going to be released for another month and a half... o yea... where is this 3G network??
Reporters, photographers and editors found the candidacy of Obama, the first African American major-party nominee, more newsworthy and historic.
I doubt that was the whole reason behind the bias. Take CNN for example (I know a poor excuse for a news site), most of their banner ads were Obama campaign ads. Would the editors want to bite the hand that has 150 million dollars to spend on advertising?
Disclosure: I voted for Obama. I really liked McCain and voted for him during the primary. However, I couldn't see myself rewarding the unelected GOP bureaucrats another 4 years to really screw up this country. Especially in light that McCain couldn't control the dumb ass GOP campaign advisers, so how could we expect him to control his GOP cabinet?
I would have voted for a McCain/Lieberman independent ticket..
Finally, there is the conflict of interest. A researcher's main goal is to perform research and publish papers. Software does not count as a publication. Thus, the software will be developed up to the point where there is something to publish and not much beyond. And, once the student completes their degree, they are off to greener pastures and support will quickly dry up.
If the Grad student wants to actually get a job in research, any references he can cite as applicable research experience will help him.
However I do agree with most of what you are saying.
In your case, you may want to use Biomedical Grad Students. They could use the coding experience, they understand the requirements for the program, and they gain experience working on a project in their field of study. Not to mention, they could publish the findings and use the program as evidence.
My employer does pretty much the same thing. Except substitute physics grad students in place of biomedical students.
Ditto. Except technology use was a gimmick. Obama may appear to have been technologically savvy, but in reality it was his much younger volunteers...
Besides technology has very little to do with the Presidency. It's not like Obama is going to text message the world leaders and say "OMG Did you see the invasion on Youtube? We PWNED them, LOL!"
Anyway, McCain as a person is a *much* better choice for president. However, I could not see myself rewarding a corrupt GOP party with another 4 years of executive power.
If McCain was really a "Maverick" he would not have (1) listen to the dumb asses who ran his campaign, (2) allowed them to talk him into picking a prim madonna redneck from Alaska as his running mate, (3) ran as an independent (why not? it's not like the GOP really funded his campaign.), and (4) not allow the dumb asses to start the usual GOP mud slinging that McCain himself thought was dishonorable during his previous attempt to become president.
The press has mentioned (many times) that McCain has taken the high road during his campaign, while those around him have not. McCain may have just learned a valuable lesson - It's not only who you are, but also who you choose to associate with..
Who knew running a campaign based on issues and not with just talking points like "Maverick" or "Fighter" would win an election?
Yet if this was Microsoft, we would be accusing them of "embracing and extending" a protocol to death.
Google should have proposed their idea to the OpenID developer community, and not pull this crap. The fact that Google is a (the?) major player in the web space makes this a very bad thing. Instead of a open specification that everybody agreed on, we now have one corporation doing their own thing and using their size to steamroll their changes onto OpenID.
Nope no matter how you sell it, Google should have handled it differently.
Not all Open Source projects are funded by venture capital!
I understand this, I was answering the question given in the summary:
Is it a sensible move for a venture capital firm that depends on a healthy Open Source community to lock it out?
My comment was for the relationship between VCs and OSS, not for all OSS. Basically if an OSS project needed external funding, governmental/academic sources should remain stable despite the reluctance for long-term funding from commercial capital.
With less money to throw around, VCs will expect some immediate payoff for any investment they make in a project.
I hate to sound like a troll, but it looks like we may see the end of a marriage between what we believe an open source projects should look like and the venture capitalists that fund them.
I still think open source will continue to thrive in the government/academic markets. It's just experiencing a little push back from commercial capital...
Just because the "christian coalition" and the eagle forum seem to have a strangle hold on the small towns in Alabama, does not mean the cities within the state actually put up with that crap.
I'm sorta glad for the warning sticker. I'd rather not have the textbooks used in the larger metropolitan areas being censored due to some ignorant rednecks in the sticks of Alabama.
My daughter's school require book covers to be used on all textbooks (in order to extend their useful life) which conveniently cover the stupid warning sticker...
But back to the subject on hand, all the scientists in my office would disagree with your humorous remark...
The Internet is built very well. It's been around for a very long time, covers most of the globe, and is able to evolve over time.
If you eliminate all of his unnecessary hyperbole and name dropping, you'll quickly find out that his is really unhappy with the current state of web applications and is frustrated that people aren't investing enough effort into improving the situation because "it works good enough."
So he is either frustrated from the lack of alternatives in web based application, or from people being too satisfied with the current offerings to try something new (and maybe his alternative).
Or maybe he trying to blame the Internet for Twitter's problem.;)
but I'm hopeful that it will kick-start our state and local governments into looking at options besides "build more roads".
Yea because we wouldn't use the roads to drive to the train station. Nor would we use the roads to truck goods from one town to a neighboring town...
My point being, High speed rail should replace commuter air service not roads. The idea being that if train travel was quick and cheap enough, people would use it to travel within the country rather than drive on the interstate..
Except I use the road a lot, and I don't go to either SF or Chicago.
Wait maybe if we included stops at towns along the way, and maybe have a whole network of tracks that cover the nation. We can save money and real estate by sharing the track with trains carrying cargo. To top it all off, we should form a governmental agency to run the passenger service...
If the name isn't already taken, I think we should call this governmental agency - AmTrack.
Come on - admit it! If your country was big enough, you would spread out too!
It's not like you Europeans never decided to travel to far off lands and make settlements. Too bad the settlers said "Shove off! We'll make our own country."
Carriers want you using the easiest phone to support and the phones that use the least data. Highly capable phones are a nightmare, especially when you add in that the average American is as smart as a radish.
Bullocks. Carriers want to inventory the smallest number of phones that would attract the largest number of potential customers into signing a 2 year contract.
Look at T-Mobile, in their bid to come up with a competitor to the iPhone, and Verizon's many offerings didn't see any problems with releasing the G1. The G1 does not look like it will be the easiest phone to support. Especially when the phone and the network don't appear ready for consumption yet.
I've yet to see my carrier answer the simplest question about my handset. So I know support can't be an issue with them...
So why will Sprint "lose its advantage" if it doesn't ramp up quickly?
I think the more appropriate term is perceived technological lead... If Sprint's venture takes too long to gain coverage and market acceptance, they will fall victim to all the WiMAX providers being subsidized by the USDA to bring broadband to rural areas.
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They're still around. One of my projects just got 4 NEC digi-pagers from Ameripage (I think). We need them for alerts that need to be serviced immediately and cell phones could not give us a consistent response time nor offered any quality assurance guarantees that the pager company was willing to give.
I'll take sane over "maverick" any day...
Very true.
However, I think this is a case of Open Source's "It's ready when it's ready" attitude clashing with T-Mobile's and HTC's we really need to release our phone by Oct 23.
Actually if there was blame to assess, I would assign it to T-Mobile. They saw the 3G data market passing them by since they concentrated more on voice calls than anything else and needed to throw something out there before ATT/Apple and Verizon took all the market share. So they decided to take a risk with the Android platform (to ride Google's coat tails into the wireless internet market) and picked HTC to make another custom handset for them. To make things worse, they wanted it out before the holidays.
Now we have a Beta OS, on a ugly phone with no standard headphone jack, on a network that is too small and weak to really matter.
I still like Android, but this is a case of poorly executing the product release. I knew it was going to be bad when Google started stripping things out of the SDK to make the deadline, and T-Mobile stupidly had a press conference to brag about a phone that wasn't going to be released for another month and a half... o yea... where is this 3G network??
I doubt that was the whole reason behind the bias. Take CNN for example (I know a poor excuse for a news site), most of their banner ads were Obama campaign ads. Would the editors want to bite the hand that has 150 million dollars to spend on advertising?
Disclosure: I voted for Obama. I really liked McCain and voted for him during the primary. However, I couldn't see myself rewarding the unelected GOP bureaucrats another 4 years to really screw up this country. Especially in light that McCain couldn't control the dumb ass GOP campaign advisers, so how could we expect him to control his GOP cabinet?
I would have voted for a McCain/Lieberman independent ticket..
Of course, Your argument would carry more weight if it wasn't for the ridiculous leaving the debug feature on in the first place...
If the Grad student wants to actually get a job in research, any references he can cite as applicable research experience will help him.
However I do agree with most of what you are saying.
In your case, you may want to use Biomedical Grad Students. They could use the coding experience, they understand the requirements for the program, and they gain experience working on a project in their field of study. Not to mention, they could publish the findings and use the program as evidence.
My employer does pretty much the same thing. Except substitute physics grad students in place of biomedical students.
Evidently Safari uses iTunes for spell checking...
Nice catch! I need coffee... coffee... (zombie voice)
Agree. The correct term is Socialist.
eg. Obama is a socialist for wanting to use the government to redistribute the wealth.
Ditto. Except technology use was a gimmick. Obama may appear to have been technologically savvy, but in reality it was his much younger volunteers...
Besides technology has very little to do with the Presidency. It's not like Obama is going to text message the world leaders and say "OMG Did you see the invasion on Youtube? We PWNED them, LOL!"
Anyway, McCain as a person is a *much* better choice for president. However, I could not see myself rewarding a corrupt GOP party with another 4 years of executive power.
If McCain was really a "Maverick" he would not have (1) listen to the dumb asses who ran his campaign, (2) allowed them to talk him into picking a prim madonna redneck from Alaska as his running mate, (3) ran as an independent (why not? it's not like the GOP really funded his campaign.), and (4) not allow the dumb asses to start the usual GOP mud slinging that McCain himself thought was dishonorable during his previous attempt to become president.
The press has mentioned (many times) that McCain has taken the high road during his campaign, while those around him have not. McCain may have just learned a valuable lesson - It's not only who you are, but also who you choose to associate with..
Who knew running a campaign based on issues and not with just talking points like "Maverick" or "Fighter" would win an election?
Yet if this was Microsoft, we would be accusing them of "embracing and extending" a protocol to death.
Google should have proposed their idea to the OpenID developer community, and not pull this crap. The fact that Google is a (the?) major player in the web space makes this a very bad thing. Instead of a open specification that everybody agreed on, we now have one corporation doing their own thing and using their size to steamroll their changes onto OpenID.
Nope no matter how you sell it, Google should have handled it differently.
Bill
Yay! But I think We may be alone now with this opinion...
I understand this, I was answering the question given in the summary:
My comment was for the relationship between VCs and OSS, not for all OSS. Basically if an OSS project needed external funding, governmental/academic sources should remain stable despite the reluctance for long-term funding from commercial capital.
Sorry for the confusion.
Sorry, I was confused by the summary which called twiki.net a startup and states (emphasis mine):
My comment was an answer to the question asked within the summary...
With less money to throw around, VCs will expect some immediate payoff for any investment they make in a project.
I hate to sound like a troll, but it looks like we may see the end of a marriage between what we believe an open source projects should look like and the venture capitalists that fund them.
I still think open source will continue to thrive in the government/academic markets. It's just experiencing a little push back from commercial capital...
Just because the "christian coalition" and the eagle forum seem to have a strangle hold on the small towns in Alabama, does not mean the cities within the state actually put up with that crap.
I'm sorta glad for the warning sticker. I'd rather not have the textbooks used in the larger metropolitan areas being censored due to some ignorant rednecks in the sticks of Alabama.
My daughter's school require book covers to be used on all textbooks (in order to extend their useful life) which conveniently cover the stupid warning sticker...
But back to the subject on hand, all the scientists in my office would disagree with your humorous remark...
The Internet is built very well. It's been around for a very long time, covers most of the globe, and is able to evolve over time.
If you eliminate all of his unnecessary hyperbole and name dropping, you'll quickly find out that his is really unhappy with the current state of web applications and is frustrated that people aren't investing enough effort into improving the situation because "it works good enough."
So he is either frustrated from the lack of alternatives in web based application, or from people being too satisfied with the current offerings to try something new (and maybe his alternative).
Or maybe he trying to blame the Internet for Twitter's problem. ;)
Don't forget Huntsville, AL (Cummings Research Park), and it's second in size compared to Triangle Research Park in North Carolina.
It looks like it's all down hill for now on....
Good thing it doesn't take much intelligence to say "Get of my lawn!"
I was going for humorous, but I'll take weird.
Yea because we wouldn't use the roads to drive to the train station. Nor would we use the roads to truck goods from one town to a neighboring town...
My point being, High speed rail should replace commuter air service not roads. The idea being that if train travel was quick and cheap enough, people would use it to travel within the country rather than drive on the interstate..
Except I use the road a lot, and I don't go to either SF or Chicago.
Wait maybe if we included stops at towns along the way, and maybe have a whole network of tracks that cover the nation. We can save money and real estate by sharing the track with trains carrying cargo. To top it all off, we should form a governmental agency to run the passenger service...
If the name isn't already taken, I think we should call this governmental agency - AmTrack.
Come on - admit it! If your country was big enough, you would spread out too!
It's not like you Europeans never decided to travel to far off lands and make settlements. Too bad the settlers said "Shove off! We'll make our own country."
Bullocks. Carriers want to inventory the smallest number of phones that would attract the largest number of potential customers into signing a 2 year contract.
Look at T-Mobile, in their bid to come up with a competitor to the iPhone, and Verizon's many offerings didn't see any problems with releasing the G1. The G1 does not look like it will be the easiest phone to support. Especially when the phone and the network don't appear ready for consumption yet.
I've yet to see my carrier answer the simplest question about my handset. So I know support can't be an issue with them...
I think the more appropriate term is perceived technological lead... If Sprint's venture takes too long to gain coverage and market acceptance, they will fall victim to all the WiMAX providers being subsidized by the USDA to bring broadband to rural areas.