He was quoting me. *I'm* the one who said that *anyone* could give it to them.
The person that I initially replied to said that the only way google could get your information was if you gave it to them and if you didn't like it, don't use their wireless.
Google can only obtain personal data if you give it to them.
No, they can obtain it if *anyone* happens to give it to them, and it doesn't even have to be accurate. There are a lot of cases out there of some person getting mad at some other person and posting all sorts of unplesant, untrue things about that person online causing them to show up when people search for the affected person.
Ever try to get approval for large purchases in a big business? It's a pain.
If your choices are having to pitch it to the higher ups every time you need to upgrade operating systems/office suites and pitching one time to the higher ups this program where, for a fee, they never have to worry about hearing this conversation again, they get extra support when it's needed, and if anything goes wrong they have someone else to blame, I guarantee you that the better choice is generally going to be option 2.
I agree with the cost with regard to smaller places. That's a lot of the reason I asked the question.
As for it being a good deal for larger installations, Microsoft hated my alma mater for the deal we had with them. For the longest time, we pretty much had them over a barrel. Any student (all 20,000+ of them) or staff could borrow a copy of practically anything they made to install on their computer. If they wanted a copy of the media to keep, it cost like $10-20 depending on what they requested. That included Windows, Office, and Visual Studio.
The deal we had when that agreement ended was still good - they took away the free borrowing, but let us keep the "get a copy and a license for $20" part.
The non profit that I worked for there had 150-200 workstations, and I can say that the support was occasionally a really nice thing. However, the most we used it was when we were migrating a group of servers to server2000 and upgrading Exchange.
I can say that was a long weekend and I now have nightmares about trying to get Exchange running properly. I can also say that their premium service is amazing and the people who provide it really know their stuff (though I hear their "regular" service isn't that great).
Indeed. The sample set is amazingly small and it says nothing in the article about the kind of places that they asked.
Most larger places tend to be insane when it comes to getting large purchases approved. That's why a lot of them do the plans like this - the IT department only has to get it approved once instead of trying to convince the higher ups that they need to spend money every time a new operating system or office suite comes out. As a bonus, they also get support (which goes a long way in convincing the higher ups because it means that someone else can be held accountable if things go wrong).
I also have to say that I must be the first case in the history of Slashdot where a first post has had a positive rating...
Not sure if I missed some kind of sarcasm, but if there is one person in the world who understands what web means, the name of this person is Tim Berners-Lee.
No, Tim understands what he *wanted* the web to be. He's a very intelligent man, but he is by no means the difinitive word on what the web means.
The people that use the web are. The web is a place defined by the people who view and put content on it. Those people have found uses for the web that Berners-Lee never imagined.
Tim may think he knows where things are going or how they should happen, but he doesn't necessarily.
Yes, his accomplishments are impressive and his opinion is valued. However, he shouldn't be looked to as the difinitive word on something that effectively has a life of its own.
I never really thought the atari port of pac-man was that bad. Considering the tech they had to work with, it was actually pretty good. Defender was much the same way.
The console just didn't have the power of an arcade cabinet. Of course, it also didn't cost several grand either.
Want to see a difference between arcade and console that will make you cringe from a gameplay standard, look at Crystal Castles. Great arcade game (which used the trackball controller) turned into a fairly lame joystick controlled atari game.
In other words, your boss could save the company about fifty bucks a day in lost productivity if he made sure you didn't turn off your computer when you went home at night.
Hate to burst your bubble, but most of us don't work in a vacuum. It is actually important to get a regular overview of things that are going on from your coworkers.
It helps you to know the political landscape. That way, if something happens, you can, at the very least, already be working on damage control.
In the case of being an IT manager, said damage control includes dealing with any potential power plays from other managers or directors. In the case of every employee, it can give you a good head start should you discover that there is a real indication of your job not actually being there a month from now.
In addition, most of us take at least a little time to ramp up in the morning. That time is well spent on the above among other things.
The place I used to work at was like that some days.
Once, the directors insisted that I take a vacation because, between classes and work, I was doing 70-80 hours a week. The day I came back, I got about 3 steps inside the building before I was buried in "We're glad you're back! $X is wrong" (for about 200 different values of $X.
In a power outage, there is a battery backup that keeps the fiber gateway alive for a few hours. Any outage that lasts more than a few hours usually results in a failure of the copper infrastructure as well.
Funny. A couple of years ago, we had a wicked ice storm that knocked out power for a sizeable area for close to a week or more. In the case of the road I'm on, the power was out for 5 days.
"Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." (Or once a day if it's a 24-hour clock.)
Some year the prediction will be correct.
Maybe this is the year.
Sorry, but your reasoning is flawed. A clock is right twice a day (or once in the case of a 24 hour clock) because you are dealing with a set of possibilities that never changes (ie the hours are always going to be between 1 and 12 or 24).
The same is not true of operating systems since they come and go. In the days of DOS, Windows didn't exist. Linux just came to the party around 1990 if memory serves. The chances are that more things will come in, and other things will leave the arena.
Windows may some day lose dominance, but there is no guarantee that Linux or any other option that exists at the moment will take its place.
Ever consider the possibility that I was the exec editor because I am a more than competent tech? Hate to break it to you, but that is indeed the reason and the case.
I'm good at what I do technically and I communicate well. Add in the fact that I have quite a bit of experience in the political considerations of business (through being team lead, having to deal with everyone from new hires to directors, and having even done most of the ground work in building an IT dept from nothing in an established organization) and it made a lot of sense for me to be in that position.
Sorry to kill your world view, but sometimes people get put into leadership positions because they are very good at what they do, communicate ideas to others easily, and are able to work well as a mentor.
That would be the other thing that I forgot to mention (it's been a long day). Breaking the anvil is also dangerous because it throws off fragments of itself. And remember, never use the anvil for forging if the ambient temp is below like 50 or 60 degrees.
Also, quenching hot high carbon steel in water is uaully a recipie for disaster since it likes to shatter.
It's not the only way to tell that it's a dead anvil, just the immediately obvious one. If you were deaf, you could feel the difference when the hammer strikes landed. Vibration is a factor when you're working.
In addition, the flat thud sound will drive you nuts.
Like I said above, a dead anvil is one with an internal fracture. They aren't any good for working with anymore, so are considered "dead".
The way you tell is to take a hammer and strike the three areas of the anvil (horn, body, and butt). The tone of a good anvil is a ring. A dead anvil simply goes *thud*.
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He was quoting me. *I'm* the one who said that *anyone* could give it to them.
The person that I initially replied to said that the only way google could get your information was if you gave it to them and if you didn't like it, don't use their wireless.
Again, I ask that people learn to read.
I didn't say it was unique to Google. I was refuting his claim that the only way Google can get your personal information is if you give it to them.
Try actually reading what I wrote and what I responded to before jumping to the defense of something I wasn't attacking.
Google can only obtain personal data if you give it to them.
No, they can obtain it if *anyone* happens to give it to them, and it doesn't even have to be accurate. There are a lot of cases out there of some person getting mad at some other person and posting all sorts of unplesant, untrue things about that person online causing them to show up when people search for the affected person.
If it helps out, here's a previously published article. It was actually pretty well reviewed by the community at large.
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As with anything else, just be sure to give credit =]
http://www.jameshollingshead.com/writing/publishe
After the J Edgar Hoover bit, the FBI is in no position to blackmail anyone.
No, that would just stop them from acting as publicly. Even if they didn't act directly, they could still do so through an intermediary.
That would also give them plausible deniability. "We at the Bureau are saddened and angered by the actions of this [rouge angent|hacker|whatever]"
Never kid yourself that they wouldn't sink to it again if they thought it would work in their favor.
People comiting "moral crimes".
They have a history of blackmail using that sort of thing.
Actually, the light gun was apparently used in an arcade shooting game in 1936, but was more like a lazer tag setup with a sensor on a moving target.
Ever try to get approval for large purchases in a big business? It's a pain.
If your choices are having to pitch it to the higher ups every time you need to upgrade operating systems/office suites and pitching one time to the higher ups this program where, for a fee, they never have to worry about hearing this conversation again, they get extra support when it's needed, and if anything goes wrong they have someone else to blame, I guarantee you that the better choice is generally going to be option 2.
I agree with the cost with regard to smaller places. That's a lot of the reason I asked the question.
As for it being a good deal for larger installations, Microsoft hated my alma mater for the deal we had with them. For the longest time, we pretty much had them over a barrel. Any student (all 20,000+ of them) or staff could borrow a copy of practically anything they made to install on their computer. If they wanted a copy of the media to keep, it cost like $10-20 depending on what they requested. That included Windows, Office, and Visual Studio.
The deal we had when that agreement ended was still good - they took away the free borrowing, but let us keep the "get a copy and a license for $20" part.
The non profit that I worked for there had 150-200 workstations, and I can say that the support was occasionally a really nice thing. However, the most we used it was when we were migrating a group of servers to server2000 and upgrading Exchange.
I can say that was a long weekend and I now have nightmares about trying to get Exchange running properly. I can also say that their premium service is amazing and the people who provide it really know their stuff (though I hear their "regular" service isn't that great).
Indeed. The sample set is amazingly small and it says nothing in the article about the kind of places that they asked.
Most larger places tend to be insane when it comes to getting large purchases approved. That's why a lot of them do the plans like this - the IT department only has to get it approved once instead of trying to convince the higher ups that they need to spend money every time a new operating system or office suite comes out. As a bonus, they also get support (which goes a long way in convincing the higher ups because it means that someone else can be held accountable if things go wrong).
I also have to say that I must be the first case in the history of Slashdot where a first post has had a positive rating...
The big question is whether they were asking IT people in large businesses, midsized, or small ones.
I can see smaller businesses and some mid sized ones not renewing, but most of the larger ones will probably continue to do so because it's easier.
Not sure if I missed some kind of sarcasm, but if there is one person in the world who understands what web means, the name of this person is Tim Berners-Lee.
No, Tim understands what he *wanted* the web to be. He's a very intelligent man, but he is by no means the difinitive word on what the web means.
The people that use the web are. The web is a place defined by the people who view and put content on it. Those people have found uses for the web that Berners-Lee never imagined.
Tim may think he knows where things are going or how they should happen, but he doesn't necessarily.
Yes, his accomplishments are impressive and his opinion is valued. However, he shouldn't be looked to as the difinitive word on something that effectively has a life of its own.
I never really thought the atari port of pac-man was that bad. Considering the tech they had to work with, it was actually pretty good. Defender was much the same way.
The console just didn't have the power of an arcade cabinet. Of course, it also didn't cost several grand either.
Want to see a difference between arcade and console that will make you cringe from a gameplay standard, look at Crystal Castles. Great arcade game (which used the trackball controller) turned into a fairly lame joystick controlled atari game.
Cute, but no.
Let's just say that parts of her childhood weren't very plesant and it lead to a lot of nightmares.
In other words, your boss could save the company about fifty bucks a day in lost productivity if he made sure you didn't turn off your computer when you went home at night.
Hate to burst your bubble, but most of us don't work in a vacuum. It is actually important to get a regular overview of things that are going on from your coworkers.
It helps you to know the political landscape. That way, if something happens, you can, at the very least, already be working on damage control.
In the case of being an IT manager, said damage control includes dealing with any potential power plays from other managers or directors. In the case of every employee, it can give you a good head start should you discover that there is a real indication of your job not actually being there a month from now.
In addition, most of us take at least a little time to ramp up in the morning. That time is well spent on the above among other things.
Both you and a sibling both think the same thing but no my missus doesn't do sleep kung fu.
My ex and I both trained martially. Bad dreams were a thing to be dreaded. =]
Thankfully, I don't generally have them, and she almost never did while I was there (when I wasn't there was another story).
The place I used to work at was like that some days.
Once, the directors insisted that I take a vacation because, between classes and work, I was doing 70-80 hours a week. The day I came back, I got about 3 steps inside the building before I was buried in "We're glad you're back! $X is wrong" (for about 200 different values of $X.
You'll probably find that there's a bit of an overlap between the two groups.
I'd be surprised if there weren't...
In a power outage, there is a battery backup that keeps the fiber gateway alive for a few hours. Any outage that lasts more than a few hours usually results in a failure of the copper infrastructure as well.
Funny. A couple of years ago, we had a wicked ice storm that knocked out power for a sizeable area for close to a week or more. In the case of the road I'm on, the power was out for 5 days.
The phones still worked the whole time.
"Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." (Or once a day if it's a 24-hour clock.)
Some year the prediction will be correct.
Maybe this is the year.
Sorry, but your reasoning is flawed. A clock is right twice a day (or once in the case of a 24 hour clock) because you are dealing with a set of possibilities that never changes (ie the hours are always going to be between 1 and 12 or 24).
The same is not true of operating systems since they come and go. In the days of DOS, Windows didn't exist. Linux just came to the party around 1990 if memory serves. The chances are that more things will come in, and other things will leave the arena.
Windows may some day lose dominance, but there is no guarantee that Linux or any other option that exists at the moment will take its place.
Ever consider the possibility that I was the exec editor because I am a more than competent tech? Hate to break it to you, but that is indeed the reason and the case.
I'm good at what I do technically and I communicate well. Add in the fact that I have quite a bit of experience in the political considerations of business (through being team lead, having to deal with everyone from new hires to directors, and having even done most of the ground work in building an IT dept from nothing in an established organization) and it made a lot of sense for me to be in that position.
Sorry to kill your world view, but sometimes people get put into leadership positions because they are very good at what they do, communicate ideas to others easily, and are able to work well as a mentor.
That would be the other thing that I forgot to mention (it's been a long day). Breaking the anvil is also dangerous because it throws off fragments of itself. And remember, never use the anvil for forging if the ambient temp is below like 50 or 60 degrees.
Also, quenching hot high carbon steel in water is uaully a recipie for disaster since it likes to shatter.
It's not the only way to tell that it's a dead anvil, just the immediately obvious one. If you were deaf, you could feel the difference when the hammer strikes landed. Vibration is a factor when you're working.
In addition, the flat thud sound will drive you nuts.
Honestly curious - what is a "dead" anvil?
Like I said above, a dead anvil is one with an internal fracture. They aren't any good for working with anymore, so are considered "dead".
The way you tell is to take a hammer and strike the three areas of the anvil (horn, body, and butt). The tone of a good anvil is a ring. A dead anvil simply goes *thud*.
Dead anvils? Or are you implying people are heavy and expensive?
A dead anvil is one with an internal fracture. They're not really any good for doing work with anymore.