Well based on KDE's current performance I would bet that Longhorn could use pixel shaders to render windows and *STILL* be more responsive than the KDE desktop..and by the way yes I have the misfortune to have to use both windows and KDE on a daily basis.
Actually I think there might possibly be a need for "fancy pants" graphics. It makes non-experts more productive. Look at the move from command-line systems to GUI's. A lot of people then claimed they didnt need the "fancy pants" graphics in the first GUIs (and a lot of people still do..however I prefer to direct comments at rational human beings). If longhorn can make the computing experience more intuitive for non-specialiost users then the investment in extra graphics power will have been worthwhile. Even if the only tangible benefit is that things look nicer it will still make a lot of inexperienced users more productive.
Ok this is just plain silly, lets assume longhorn actually ships in 2008 (optimistic) then how many grandparents are you going to expect to be early adopters??
Most average Joes, Grandma Whatever's and all your other ficticious characters which you use to make yourself feel superior to normal people wont adopt this OS for years, at which point the amount of graphics processing power available to a typical machine will be more than enough to run all the extra eye candy.
I was thinking more of fx like reverbs and whatnot than multitracks. YOu mentioned tube mics a couple of times now...with a lot of people using SM57's and SM58's is there a huge benefit to using massively expensive mics? I mean even some pretty big bands record using basic shures..trying to get the live sound i guess.
This is caused by two main things, firstly a PC has a LOT more raw processing power than any digital hardware fx unit. The reason its much cheaper is that PCs are a commodity item whereas high end musical equipment isnt hence the price difference.
However the best stuff is of course still analogue and remains quite pricey.
I think this could be a non-exploit. Try the following under IE winXP.
Close all browser windows.
Navigate to http://secunia.com/multiple_browsers_window_injec tion_vulnerability_test/
open a new window
browse to http://www.citibank.com in the new window
Click the graphic
The result is the citibank information.
It appears to only work if you navigate to citibank from a link on their page. This somewhat lessens the seriousness of the exploit.
funny i had the exact opposite experience working for the MOD, they basically have an intranet (admittedly it is national) which can be accessed for classified information. Each employee had an internet enabled laptop and a intranet enabled desktop, in order to transfer info from one to the other you needed to get it declassified thruogh the appropriate channels.
We needed swipe cards but internal doors were left open till 9/11. After 9/11 it was technically not allowed to even let a known colleague pass through without swiping (ie you couldnt hold doors open for people)
The phrase "dont beleive everything you read in the newspapaers" didnt come about for no good reason.
Dunno about all you US'ers but here in britain every newspaper has a pretty obvious political slant which makes them perhaps one of the worst sources of news
Agreed in a very small venue this might happen but it has to be pretty small for the amps to be heard at all over the PA. I personally havent ever played in a venue where the PA is mixed in stereo. In fact if you check the input of most PA's you will find that they are mono.
This is the weird thing, i think surround sound for music is a horrific idea. I mean the only people who get to hear even as much as stereo during a typical live performnce are the musicians themselves.
The audience get a mono sound, since all the amps, drums, vocals are all mixed through the PA into one channel. I mean if there was stereo at a concert then some of the audience would only here the instruments on the left and vice versa.
Now to take music into surround is just mindboggling, rather than more "space" for things what you get is a sense that all of the instruments are playing disjointedy. Ugh
Beside its hard enough to mix well in stereo trying to mix in surround is a nightmare from the production side.
However where the real money for this idea lies is in film. The soundtrack of a movie does benefit a lot from spacial positioning, it immersed the listener in the scence (whereas in music it has the opposite effect, at least if a recreation of a live performance is the ideal). People are going to be interested in this to rip their dvds and still retain the surround sound so they can play it back on their pc surround set without needing a huge home cinema speaker system.
Still I always go for the best stereo speakers I can afford these days. Ive kinda gone full circle on the whole 5million satellite speakers and a subwoofer thing.
The latency is only an issue if your using creative cards which aren't designed as music production cards anyway. My terratec DMX6fire has rock solid timing and you can pick one up for under a hundred quid these days.
The traditional mac dominance of the market is long gone and windows really is the choice that most pro's make
Once they get the VST support running this looks like its shaping up to be a pretty decent app. Its going to take a lot to make me switch though, ive just gotten so used to cubase/cooledit it'll be hard to make the jump
If you check their news page it appears that there hasn't been code contribution worth mentioning since november '02...so basically i hope you got a whole lot of patience
Actually tools are exactly why we as a species dont really evolve anymore. In fact some anthropologists are worried about us devolving..or at least evolving undesirably. For example many predict that the narrowing of womens hips will mean the c-sections will be the normal way of giving birth for the next generation.
Tools allow us to do two thing. Firstly they allow us to change our environment and secondly they allow us to survive when we wouldnt before. Both these things means that there is essentialy no selection pressure and hence no evolution
Actually there are benefits to performing research this way. For example robots can be used to research about living organisms..there is a researcher here at edinburgh who is a big advocate of this approach.
Basically the idea is you form a hypothesis of how a creature acheives a behavious, you then build a robot which uses this hypothesis and compare the results to how a real creature behaves.
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See i look at it a little bit like this....If i have to stare at it for 16 hours a day then it might as well be pretty :)
Well based on KDE's current performance I would bet that Longhorn could use pixel shaders to render windows and *STILL* be more responsive than the KDE desktop..and by the way yes I have the misfortune to have to use both windows and KDE on a daily basis.
Actually I think there might possibly be a need for "fancy pants" graphics. It makes non-experts more productive. Look at the move from command-line systems to GUI's. A lot of people then claimed they didnt need the "fancy pants" graphics in the first GUIs (and a lot of people still do..however I prefer to direct comments at rational human beings). If longhorn can make the computing experience more intuitive for non-specialiost users then the investment in extra graphics power will have been worthwhile. Even if the only tangible benefit is that things look nicer it will still make a lot of inexperienced users more productive.
Ok this is just plain silly, lets assume longhorn actually ships in 2008 (optimistic) then how many grandparents are you going to expect to be early adopters??
Most average Joes, Grandma Whatever's and all your other ficticious characters which you use to make yourself feel superior to normal people wont adopt this OS for years, at which point the amount of graphics processing power available to a typical machine will be more than enough to run all the extra eye candy.
I was thinking more of fx like reverbs and whatnot than multitracks. YOu mentioned tube mics a couple of times now...with a lot of people using SM57's and SM58's is there a huge benefit to using massively expensive mics? I mean even some pretty big bands record using basic shures ..trying to get the live sound i guess.
This is caused by two main things, firstly a PC has a LOT more raw processing power than any digital hardware fx unit. The reason its much cheaper is that PCs are a commodity item whereas high end musical equipment isnt hence the price difference.
However the best stuff is of course still analogue and remains quite pricey.
How is this new or different to the other numerous offering out there?
We have already have plenty of choice in either software/ stand alone hardware units or hybrid systems for example:
NI GuitarTracks, Amplitube, Line6 Guitar port, Line6 pod series, yamaha DG/AG stomp and numerous others.
I think this could be a non-exploit. Try the following under IE winXP.
Close all browser windows.
Navigate to http://secunia.com/multiple_browsers_window_injec tion_vulnerability_test/
open a new window
browse to http://www.citibank.com in the new window
Click the graphic
The result is the citibank information.
It appears to only work if you navigate to citibank from a link on their page. This somewhat lessens the seriousness of the exploit.
funny i had the exact opposite experience working for the MOD, they basically have an intranet (admittedly it is national) which can be accessed for classified information. Each employee had an internet enabled laptop and a intranet enabled desktop, in order to transfer info from one to the other you needed to get it declassified thruogh the appropriate channels.
We needed swipe cards but internal doors were left open till 9/11. After 9/11 it was technically not allowed to even let a known colleague pass through without swiping (ie you couldnt hold doors open for people)
The phrase "dont beleive everything you read in the newspapaers" didnt come about for no good reason.
Dunno about all you US'ers but here in britain every newspaper has a pretty obvious political slant which makes them perhaps one of the worst sources of news
Agreed in a very small venue this might happen but it has to be pretty small for the amps to be heard at all over the PA. I personally havent ever played in a venue where the PA is mixed in stereo. In fact if you check the input of most PA's you will find that they are mono.
When you go to to a gig you are hearing a mono broadcast unless you are very close to the front or the venue is tiny
I heard that Jehovah! dont make me send my aztec warriors again!!!
This is the weird thing, i think surround sound for music is a horrific idea. I mean the only people who get to hear even as much as stereo during a typical live performnce are the musicians themselves.
The audience get a mono sound, since all the amps, drums, vocals are all mixed through the PA into one channel. I mean if there was stereo at a concert then some of the audience would only here the instruments on the left and vice versa.
Now to take music into surround is just mindboggling, rather than more "space" for things what you get is a sense that all of the instruments are playing disjointedy. Ugh
Beside its hard enough to mix well in stereo trying to mix in surround is a nightmare from the production side.
However where the real money for this idea lies is in film. The soundtrack of a movie does benefit a lot from spacial positioning, it immersed the listener in the scence (whereas in music it has the opposite effect, at least if a recreation of a live performance is the ideal). People are going to be interested in this to rip their dvds and still retain the surround sound so they can play it back on their pc surround set without needing a huge home cinema speaker system.
Still I always go for the best stereo speakers I can afford these days. Ive kinda gone full circle on the whole 5million satellite speakers and a subwoofer thing.
You forgot 3.)Put on tinfoil hat
The latency is only an issue if your using creative cards which aren't designed as music production cards anyway. My terratec DMX6fire has rock solid timing and you can pick one up for under a hundred quid these days.
The traditional mac dominance of the market is long gone and windows really is the choice that most pro's make
Once they get the VST support running this looks like its shaping up to be a pretty decent app. Its going to take a lot to make me switch though, ive just gotten so used to cubase/cooledit it'll be hard to make the jump
Buzz was an awesome little program. I used it for a good few years before graduating to cubase
funny it works fine in my IE
If you check their news page it appears that there hasn't been code contribution worth mentioning since november '02...so basically i hope you got a whole lot of patience
meh..any system is only as secure as its users anyway..which i suspect is why linux has practically no problems.
Basically anyone who knows what a terminal window is isn't likely to run suspect attachments or not configure a firewall
Actually the joke is a pun on the word pissed which in the UK is a slang word for getting drunk. You may now get off your high horse.
Actually tools are exactly why we as a species dont really evolve anymore. In fact some anthropologists are worried about us devolving..or at least evolving undesirably. For example many predict that the narrowing of womens hips will mean the c-sections will be the normal way of giving birth for the next generation.
Tools allow us to do two thing. Firstly they allow us to change our environment and secondly they allow us to survive when we wouldnt before. Both these things means that there is essentialy no selection pressure and hence no evolution
Actually there are benefits to performing research this way. For example robots can be used to research about living organisms..there is a researcher here at edinburgh who is a big advocate of this approach.
Basically the idea is you form a hypothesis of how a creature acheives a behavious, you then build a robot which uses this hypothesis and compare the results to how a real creature behaves.
incidently it can be something other than a dropped i..for example a dropped g ..it's rainin' or a dropped a and d as in rock 'n' roll.