That's not very good prior art. We're not talking about any legal proceedings so you're going to have to cite a product that was delivered to the home console market. What you cited does not fit the bill. And let's say I grant you your second statement - do you actually believe that Nintendo did not offer any innovation since the NES era?
I don't think that force feedback was a new idea anyway.
Prior art? Sorry - I'm not going to accept what you "think" as a proof that I am incorrect.
"But whereas Sony integrated it into their controller, Nintendo required you to buy the Rumble Pack seperately."
Sony had the benefit of being second to market with their rumble feature.
"I don't recognize a simple "new product" as innovation"
Read my post again you dumb fuck - I cited more than one innovation that has come from Nintendo since the NES era. Your arguments are flawed and pathetic.
Wrong. The controller that came with the Playstation upon release had no analog controls, as you can see here.
Perhaps this statement from that site might clear up your mind - "In response to the revolutionary Nintendo 64 controller, Sony retooled their own controller to make it more suitable for the future of 3D gaming.
Instead of adding one analog thumb stick like on the Nintendo 64's controller, Sony added two to theirs. I suspect this was mainly in order to maintain the controller's symmetry as there was no convenient location to add just one. The "analog" button was added to enable or disable the thumb sticks - a way to retain compatibility with previous games.
Sony also added an innovation of their own in the form of a push-button within each thumb stick. The sticks click when pushed in, essentially creating the equivalent of two additional shoulder buttons. Lastly, Sony incorporated two vibration motors within the controller's shell - adding a built-in equivalent to Nintendo 64's Rumble Pak."
Yes. In fact, quite a few of the region locked players you buy in the U.S. can be made region free with a code. This site may have some information but the easiest way is to just google with the model name of the DVD player you are interested in.
"Ahhhh the virtual boy. An answer to a question that nobody asked."
Original poster claimed Nintendo had not innovated since the NES era. Virtual Boy proves otherwise. I noted that the results were poor so your statement in that regard adds nothing.
"Sony didn't "redesign" their controller so much as they added features to it."
Actually - they did redesign it. Redesign means: To make a revision in the appearance or function of. You may wonder what revision means now, right? Well - revision means [same source] the act of revising or altering (involving reconsideration and modification); So, adding analog control based entirely on Nintendo's innovation (not to mention the fact that Sony's original PSX controller design was pretty much an homage to the SNES controller) is in fact an alteration that involved reconsideration and modification. Thus, it's a goddamned redesign.
Honestly, the controller came out. Nintendo released their's, Sony released a new controller that was different than the previous one. That's a fucking redesign. If you're going to argue semantics, at least have a leg to stand on.
"Ever since the NES/SNES they've relied more on their name to sell games, rather than their innovation."
The N64 controller wasn't innovative? Funny - it seems like the N64 controller is the reason that Sony redesigned their controller. Oh - the rumble pack? Yeah - that was copied by Sony too. Interesting. And, as poor as it turned out, the Virtual Boy was an innovative approach.
Sorry Beny but it seems like you aren't up to speed on your console history. Better luck next time.
Oh - why did you mention the store you were in and the time you were in? Who cares?
They might end up at number 3 in worldwide sales but their position within the Japanese market and Microsoft's poor showing in the Japanese market cannot be ignored in forecasting future success.
And, as a Gamecube owner, these types of stories aren't really of concern to me. Nintendo pulls a profit. As long as that remains the case, there will be quality Nintendo hardware and games released.
Yes - they could. Radio stations are typically required to pay licensing fees for the music they play. Although, if you are transmitting at such strength so as to get the RIAA on your back, the FCC is going to have some fines for you as well.
This article was posted to the games section, Sony was mentioned in the summary, and doing a google search for "Sony PSP" yields, as the first result, "IGN PSP: PlayStation Portable Games, PSP Cheats and PlayStation..."
There are lots of things to complain about with pretty much everything that gets posted to Slashdot. You have stumbled upon one thing that is not a problem.
Every time an acronym gets posted, it should be explained? That seems a little silly, don't you think? How hard is it for you to talk some personal responsibility and figure out what the acronym is referring to in the context it is given. And for fuck's sake, Sony is mentioned, there's a Playstation icon used - what more do you want?
"it's his right because he has the legal right to do it! You're just the paying customer, so shut your piehole and fork over the $$$$!"
Yes, it is the artist's right [or whoever has inherited the rights to the piece] to modify the work later. I agree with that. Why do you think that the customer has no right to voice his dislike for the new work and refuse to pay for it? Last time I checked, I didn't have to go see Episode III.
From the article you link to: "An editorial by Sam Altersitz - 2004-02-29"
Isn't it 2005? If you're going to refute the parent, at least get some recent sales numbers.
I'm not saying that you are incorrect in refuting the parent. It seems like MS has been moving quite a few units during the holidays but who knows - it's very difficult to get accurate sales figures in regards to consoles. One thing I can say for sure is that the Gamecube is outselling the XBox in Japan.
Just because the system isn't selling as well as the PS2 or XBox does not mean that Nintendo is losing money. With the already installed user base, Nintendo can make profits from sales of the games they release. So, your "equation" is wrong.
But that should be pretty obvious to anyone who knows the profit margins on console hardware in comparison to console software.
On a note in regards to the grandparent - Nintendo fans can always go to Nintendo's website and order the products they want if their local retailer stops carrying Nintendo products.
" Maybe that's because the Gamecube's cheaper than the Xbox, and parents buying a system for their kids would opt for a Gamecube instead, cause of the lower prices?"
Well, without any actual data on the age of the primary user of the Gamecubes sold, you're really just pulling that idea out of thin air. And I would argue that your statement that MS didn't buy anything is incorrect. The sales of the XBox for quite a long time relied upon Halo as the killer app - produced by a company that MS bought.
Furthermore, your assertion that the Gamecube lacks "excellent first-party games and third-party support" is incorrect. I think most gamers can clearly recognize that Nintendo has produced some excellent games for the Gamecube. And companies other than Nintendo have made games for the Gamecube - thus third party support exists. You did not quantify your "third-party support" assertion and therefore, it is false. Finally, Nintendo is making money. The MS games division is not.
Was your comment intended as a reply to mine? I believe you must have misread what I wrote. The person I was replying to was making the case that instead of searching for alien life, we should be using computers to do medical research. I was making the case that better medical technology further creates the overpopulation problem.
What exactly does "Sure... finding aliens will improve our quality of life." mean in this context? I never made any statement regarding how finding alien life would affect the quality of human life. I was talking about the effect of further medical research on the quality of human life.
Please, reread my comment. It is clear you did not understand it.
You think we should be trying to find ways to prolong life? That's absurd.
The population of this planet is rising at such a rapid rate that I seriously doubt that the quality of life will be worth living for in 50 years. If anything, we should be using distributed computing power to find new ways to introduce population controls. This could be accomplished through either mind control devices or undetectable birth control drugs in the water supply. In conclusion, please don't breed.
The NES Advantage was the best controller ever. End of discussion. The turbo features on it were inspired - you could actually control the amount of turbo you needed. Besides, the thing was sturdy as a brick. It was truly a controller ahead of its time.
The NFL won't back out of this agreement. It's a clear cut case of the NFL choosing to make a business move and screw the fans - regardless of the spin Upshaw tries to put on it.
And the average fan isn't going to raise a stink about it [boycotts of NFL products], they'll just plop down their cash for Madden and be on with it. I've always liked the Madden series better but this gives me serious pause to consider whether I will be buying any football game next year.
It was also hinted that EA might be in negotiations to get a similar deal from MLB - which would be absolutely horrible because MVP Baseball is so bad, especially in comparison to Sega's much superior offering. Oh well, big business fucks over the little guy yet again...
"Note that the kiosk is supposed to not complete the transaction if it determines the photograph has been compromised, so simply covering the camera is unlikely to work."
Why would you need to defeat this system? For 100% of the mail I send, my name is on it. If I were attempting to mail information on some government coverup to the newspaper, I'd be doing it by proxy anyway.
I am very interested in why people would be trying to figure out how to defeat this setup. It seems like the only people who would need to not be photographed are going to be causing trouble. There should be no expectation of privacy when you're in public mailing something.
How does that "argument" you were making add anything insightful or interesting to the point that the person you responded made?
The poster you replied to said that they had committed the crime of stealing credit card numbers. While that is not true - what does saying "not stealing credit card numbers" is a crime as well have to do with anything? Honestly, I really think your comment was just nonsense nitpicking that added nothing to the discussion. Is this the typical level of conversation you have?
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That's not very good prior art. We're not talking about any legal proceedings so you're going to have to cite a product that was delivered to the home console market. What you cited does not fit the bill. And let's say I grant you your second statement - do you actually believe that Nintendo did not offer any innovation since the NES era?
Nintendo has done plenty of innovation since the NES era - long story, short. Do you want to refute that with something concrete?
Perhaps this statement from that site might clear up your mind - "In response to the revolutionary Nintendo 64 controller, Sony retooled their own controller to make it more suitable for the future of 3D gaming.
Instead of adding one analog thumb stick like on the Nintendo 64's controller, Sony added two to theirs. I suspect this was mainly in order to maintain the controller's symmetry as there was no convenient location to add just one. The "analog" button was added to enable or disable the thumb sticks - a way to retain compatibility with previous games.
Sony also added an innovation of their own in the form of a push-button within each thumb stick. The sticks click when pushed in, essentially creating the equivalent of two additional shoulder buttons. Lastly, Sony incorporated two vibration motors within the controller's shell - adding a built-in equivalent to Nintendo 64's Rumble Pak."
Yes. In fact, quite a few of the region locked players you buy in the U.S. can be made region free with a code. This site may have some information but the easiest way is to just google with the model name of the DVD player you are interested in.
Honestly, the controller came out. Nintendo released their's, Sony released a new controller that was different than the previous one. That's a fucking redesign. If you're going to argue semantics, at least have a leg to stand on.
Sorry Beny but it seems like you aren't up to speed on your console history. Better luck next time.
Oh - why did you mention the store you were in and the time you were in? Who cares?
And, as a Gamecube owner, these types of stories aren't really of concern to me. Nintendo pulls a profit. As long as that remains the case, there will be quality Nintendo hardware and games released.
Does calling me a "fool" make you feel better about your life?
Yes - they could. Radio stations are typically required to pay licensing fees for the music they play. Although, if you are transmitting at such strength so as to get the RIAA on your back, the FCC is going to have some fines for you as well.
There are lots of things to complain about with pretty much everything that gets posted to Slashdot. You have stumbled upon one thing that is not a problem.
Every time an acronym gets posted, it should be explained? That seems a little silly, don't you think? How hard is it for you to talk some personal responsibility and figure out what the acronym is referring to in the context it is given. And for fuck's sake, Sony is mentioned, there's a Playstation icon used - what more do you want?
Nice troll, btw.
The net loss on the console sales is greater than the net gain on the software sales according to the most recent financial report from MS.
Isn't it 2005? If you're going to refute the parent, at least get some recent sales numbers.
I'm not saying that you are incorrect in refuting the parent. It seems like MS has been moving quite a few units during the holidays but who knows - it's very difficult to get accurate sales figures in regards to consoles. One thing I can say for sure is that the Gamecube is outselling the XBox in Japan.
But that should be pretty obvious to anyone who knows the profit margins on console hardware in comparison to console software.
On a note in regards to the grandparent - Nintendo fans can always go to Nintendo's website and order the products they want if their local retailer stops carrying Nintendo products.
Furthermore, your assertion that the Gamecube lacks "excellent first-party games and third-party support" is incorrect. I think most gamers can clearly recognize that Nintendo has produced some excellent games for the Gamecube. And companies other than Nintendo have made games for the Gamecube - thus third party support exists. You did not quantify your "third-party support" assertion and therefore, it is false. Finally, Nintendo is making money. The MS games division is not.
Source?
Let's see a UN report that says the population is going to level off.
What exactly does "Sure... finding aliens will improve our quality of life." mean in this context? I never made any statement regarding how finding alien life would affect the quality of human life. I was talking about the effect of further medical research on the quality of human life.
Please, reread my comment. It is clear you did not understand it.
The population of this planet is rising at such a rapid rate that I seriously doubt that the quality of life will be worth living for in 50 years. If anything, we should be using distributed computing power to find new ways to introduce population controls. This could be accomplished through either mind control devices or undetectable birth control drugs in the water supply. In conclusion, please don't breed.
The NES Advantage was the best controller ever. End of discussion. The turbo features on it were inspired - you could actually control the amount of turbo you needed. Besides, the thing was sturdy as a brick. It was truly a controller ahead of its time.
Perhaps you should preview your comments before you submit them.
And the average fan isn't going to raise a stink about it [boycotts of NFL products], they'll just plop down their cash for Madden and be on with it. I've always liked the Madden series better but this gives me serious pause to consider whether I will be buying any football game next year.
It was also hinted that EA might be in negotiations to get a similar deal from MLB - which would be absolutely horrible because MVP Baseball is so bad, especially in comparison to Sega's much superior offering. Oh well, big business fucks over the little guy yet again...
I am very interested in why people would be trying to figure out how to defeat this setup. It seems like the only people who would need to not be photographed are going to be causing trouble. There should be no expectation of privacy when you're in public mailing something.
The poster you replied to said that they had committed the crime of stealing credit card numbers. While that is not true - what does saying "not stealing credit card numbers" is a crime as well have to do with anything? Honestly, I really think your comment was just nonsense nitpicking that added nothing to the discussion. Is this the typical level of conversation you have?