i was surprised about 'detachable konsole tabs' being new, as that's something i've been using s lot since kde 3 indeed. could somebody clarify what was actually meant there ?
oh, i'm sure we will get awesome 3d printers. we will get ones that print metal, plastic, diamonds, whatever the method or technology, it will be transparent to the user.
how about osm with great search and good looks ?:) that would get you best of all of them, as osm is the only one where you may use the data for commercial purposes w/o any fees, and may get full vector data for any custom or offline use
i'm not. but if somebody is, and they drive at the posted speed limit (with the exception mentioned above), there is no way how they are harming anybody else... who is not breaking the law. at which point it is an extreme hypocrisy to complain about others. if you exceed the speed limit, you understand that any action anybody else does to please you is pure politeness and you do not expect to always receive it - unless you are an impolite bastard who thinks everybody should please them. not that there's shortage of such people on the roads.
is that a huge concern ? is it a bigger hazard than somebody speeding ? i'd say no, and i'd claim that speeding is worse. so much that i would expect people to feel at least a tiny bit ashamed of it and not flame others who are "in their way".
so what is actually the huge problem with people in that lane who are not below the speed limit ?
sounds likely. how rare are tickets for going over the speed limit ? personally, i am exceeding speed limits rather often, especially when i'm on two wheels. i might even complain in my helmet in some cases. but i never, ever think i have any privileges over others or allow myself to flash lights or do anything more. i brake down and obey the speed limit or whatever is the speed other person feels comfortable with, even if it's below the posted limit
oh. so us has a law that is meaningless, even harmful, invasive... and still universally enforced ? wait, not just enforced. whenever i'm in the usa, they ask for my "id" (whatever that might mean - i don't think they have much expectations beyond usa driver's licence. i'v had a shop person go away with my eu driver's licence shouting "i can't accept this"). i'm somewhere around 30, bearded and usually not looking very happy.
usa, grow up. you are allowing kids (by your own definition) at 16 to use a dangerous weapon (car), kids at 18 to buy a gun, kids at 18 to join army and kill - or get killed. but they may not have a beer after shooting some infidels.
funny. real funny. but sad at the same time:) i'm a kde user, so i'm some keyboard, some clicking desktop env user. but some of my colleagues have x11+xterm, and one is a user of http://awesome.naquadah.org/
that's a bit too much fr me at this time, but claiming that windows "is one of the most keyboard friendly UI's I've used" seemed like being locked in a cell and then given a pencil. and claiming that it's the most efficient computing device.
waitwaitwait. gplv3 requires no lockdown, so user is in charge. an "unnamed" vendor pushes for a partial lockdown, which gplv3 "detects" and refuses to "operate on".
how could you claim that it's acting against the right to tinker ? you could claim that it's rejecting right to tinker in a sandbox - which seems to be a goal, not an oversight.
You can't, with any intellectual honesty, simply hand wave that away and claim a business model is morally wrong simply because it is suddenly possible to circumvent it in your parents' basement with an $800 computer.
but why could you claim that technical progress should be halted ? it's not the "circumvent" thing, it;s the "share" thing. the world will not go back to middle ages (hopefully) - we will not have books be scarce because of rewriting them, we will not have music be a luxury because of expensive equipment and media needed for it. why would anybody who is not interested in controlling the target audience try to preserve such a limited environment ?
another thing is this argument that producers "deserve" payment. i'm not sure what is the justification for this - we don't claim that repairmen deserve cars to be brought to them instead of being serviced by their owners. it's even worse, as this system actually tries to monopolise what is a quite low level human motivator. dance, song, art - these are part of the basic appeal to the opposite sex, thus they will be performed without monetary reward. actually, we can easily see that there is way, WAY more content being produced than the community can consume. and that is completely normal and ok... unless you would like to claim that the right of producing content and distributing it should be controlled by a privileged cast of the community.
there is no moral high ground in claiming that we should limit art, and prevent advancement of it. it's actually trying to drown human expression from the sewers of morality.
Let's not forget the fact that nowadays, what really makes a phone useful is not the "as shipped" factory experience, but the applications.
interestingly, the "let's sweep it under the carpet" n9 has an awesome application selection in addition to being a nice phone (except some artificial limitations like being unable to install lower os version). why would nokia choose not to pursue their biggest chance ever is sort of a mystery, although some people will point at sockpuppet ceo and some money migrating between accounts
I believe this is mainly due to the entrenched market of Apple/Google OS phones.
wasn't n9 selling better for than nokia windows phones, despite being announced doa by nokia itself and windows thingies receiving shitload of advertising ?
as an n9 owner - nokia, please, get rid of whoever is pushing windows phone strategy. meego was your awesome breakthrough chance, you might have already destroyed that chance...
interesting. which component disabled the network card ? did you report that as a bug ? do you recall (can check) which card that is and which kernel module was used for it ?
i might have encountered something similar on a laptop (although it might be unrelated:) )
i still have kde3 on my slackware desktop systems. with slackware-current, i'll add. granted, it's not as shiny as kde4 i have on the laptop... but it's STABLE. it doesn't suddenly start overlapping taskbar elements at release.6 or black out panels at the same release. kde4 is nice, but the stability has been lacking for a looong time. i'll try to upgrade to something more recent (4.8 ?) soon, hopefully i'll be back in the cozy 3-style stability then. hopefully:)
yes, double digits (in years). belief != religious faith. also, social faith and trust in another person never equates religious faith. it's our experiences and trust that builds upon these experiences which allow such social structures to hold. why would a trust in another person ever require a religious belief ? (that one might hide behind words like "spiritual")
what about the human emotion (including perception of morality) being an evolved trait ? we can quite nicely explain compassion, all social morality norms, culture (especially singing/dancing) etc as being evolutionary social traits. there's no need for superstition in this area anymore, similar how at some point we lost the need for it when explaining fire, lightning, clouds, rain, moon, sun, stars...
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what about qt on mac ?
i was surprised about 'detachable konsole tabs' being new, as that's something i've been using s lot since kde 3 indeed.
could somebody clarify what was actually meant there ?
oh, i'm sure we will get awesome 3d printers. we will get ones that print metal, plastic, diamonds, whatever the method or technology, it will be transparent to the user.
i'm more concerned about printcrime :)
http://craphound.com/?p=573
even though i'm logged in, kernelnewbies page says "Immutable Page" - so maybe somebody with write privs can fix "makes impossibles" ;)
how about osm with great search and good looks ? :)
that would get you best of all of them, as osm is the only one where you may use the data for commercial purposes w/o any fees, and may get full vector data for any custom or offline use
Latvian operator Lattelecom has been doing this for years as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattelecom#Lattelecom_Internet)
it's not free, so i've never tried it ;>
i'm not. but if somebody is, and they drive at the posted speed limit (with the exception mentioned above), there is no way how they are harming anybody else... who is not breaking the law. at which point it is an extreme hypocrisy to complain about others.
if you exceed the speed limit, you understand that any action anybody else does to please you is pure politeness and you do not expect to always receive it - unless you are an impolite bastard who thinks everybody should please them. not that there's shortage of such people on the roads.
Second, in some states (like the one I live in), the speed limit is a recommendation, not a hard limit.
that would be the exception (similar to autobahn) where i would agree that going slower would require moving to the right.
is that a huge concern ? is it a bigger hazard than somebody speeding ?
i'd say no, and i'd claim that speeding is worse. so much that i would expect people to feel at least a tiny bit ashamed of it and not flame others who are "in their way".
so what is actually the huge problem with people in that lane who are not below the speed limit ?
monsanto. one t can make a difference :)
sounds likely. how rare are tickets for going over the speed limit ?
personally, i am exceeding speed limits rather often, especially when i'm on two wheels. i might even complain in my helmet in some cases. but i never, ever think i have any privileges over others or allow myself to flash lights or do anything more. i brake down and obey the speed limit or whatever is the speed other person feels comfortable with, even if it's below the posted limit
oh. so us has a law that is meaningless, even harmful, invasive... and still universally enforced ? wait, not just enforced. whenever i'm in the usa, they ask for my "id" (whatever that might mean - i don't think they have much expectations beyond usa driver's licence. i'v had a shop person go away with my eu driver's licence shouting "i can't accept this"). i'm somewhere around 30, bearded and usually not looking very happy.
usa, grow up. you are allowing kids (by your own definition) at 16 to use a dangerous weapon (car), kids at 18 to buy a gun, kids at 18 to join army and kill - or get killed. but they may not have a beer after shooting some infidels.
i plead incompetence
funny. real funny. but sad at the same time :)
i'm a kde user, so i'm some keyboard, some clicking desktop env user.
but some of my colleagues have x11+xterm, and one is a user of http://awesome.naquadah.org/
that's a bit too much fr me at this time, but claiming that windows "is one of the most keyboard friendly UI's I've used" seemed like being locked in a cell and then given a pencil. and claiming that it's the most efficient computing device.
waitwaitwait.
gplv3 requires no lockdown, so user is in charge. an "unnamed" vendor pushes for a partial lockdown, which gplv3 "detects" and refuses to "operate on".
how could you claim that it's acting against the right to tinker ?
you could claim that it's rejecting right to tinker in a sandbox - which seems to be a goal, not an oversight.
You can't, with any intellectual honesty, simply hand wave that away and claim a business model is morally
wrong simply because it is suddenly possible to circumvent it in your parents' basement with an $800 computer.
but why could you claim that technical progress should be halted ? it's not the "circumvent" thing, it;s the "share" thing.
the world will not go back to middle ages (hopefully) - we will not have books be scarce because of rewriting them, we will not have music be a luxury because of expensive equipment and media needed for it.
why would anybody who is not interested in controlling the target audience try to preserve such a limited environment ?
another thing is this argument that producers "deserve" payment. i'm not sure what is the justification for this - we don't claim that repairmen deserve cars to be brought to them instead of being serviced by their owners. it's even worse, as this system actually tries to monopolise what is a quite low level human motivator. dance, song, art - these are part of the basic appeal to the opposite sex, thus they will be performed without monetary reward.
actually, we can easily see that there is way, WAY more content being produced than the community can consume. and that is completely normal and ok... unless you would like to claim that the right of producing content and distributing it should be controlled by a privileged cast of the community.
there is no moral high ground in claiming that we should limit art, and prevent advancement of it. it's actually trying to drown human expression from the sewers of morality.
Let's not forget the fact that nowadays, what really makes a phone useful is not the "as shipped" factory experience, but the applications.
interestingly, the "let's sweep it under the carpet" n9 has an awesome application selection in addition to being a nice phone (except some artificial limitations like being unable to install lower os version). why would nokia choose not to pursue their biggest chance ever is sort of a mystery, although some people will point at sockpuppet ceo and some money migrating between accounts
I believe this is mainly due to the entrenched market of Apple/Google OS phones.
wasn't n9 selling better for than nokia windows phones, despite being announced doa by nokia itself and windows thingies receiving shitload of advertising ?
as an n9 owner - nokia, please, get rid of whoever is pushing windows phone strategy. meego was your awesome breakthrough chance, you might have already destroyed that chance...
interesting. which component disabled the network card ? did you report that as a bug ? do you recall (can check) which card that is and which kernel module was used for it ?
i might have encountered something similar on a laptop (although it might be unrelated :) )
i would assume that linux would re-enable the nic when needed, wouldn't it ? was that failing ?
how did you discover ctrl+space+"fi"+enter ?
i still have kde3 on my slackware desktop systems. with slackware-current, i'll add. .6 or black out panels at the same release. kde4 is nice, but the stability has been lacking for a looong time. i'll try to upgrade to something more recent (4.8 ?) soon, hopefully i'll be back in the cozy 3-style stability then. hopefully :)
granted, it's not as shiny as kde4 i have on the laptop... but it's STABLE.
it doesn't suddenly start overlapping taskbar elements at release
yes, double digits (in years).
belief != religious faith.
also, social faith and trust in another person never equates religious faith. it's our experiences and trust that builds upon these experiences which allow such social structures to hold. why would a trust in another person ever require a religious belief ? (that one might hide behind words like "spiritual")
what about the human emotion (including perception of morality) being an evolved trait ?
we can quite nicely explain compassion, all social morality norms, culture (especially singing/dancing) etc as being evolutionary social traits. there's no need for superstition in this area anymore, similar how at some point we lost the need for it when explaining fire, lightning, clouds, rain, moon, sun, stars...
known as copyright easter eggs (in osm community, at least) - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright_Easter_Eggs