don't you already have tax on blank media, portable and non-portable music players and other things ? at least over here in europe we have such taxes and all icnome goes to a private, greedy, non-transparent and monopolistic organisation. oh, recently they threatened users who included youtube videos in their blog postings. and they say that countryside motels must pay them for every tv set and radio that could be available to guests. so yeah, taxing on content they don't have even stood close to produce and giving that money to private entities is common already...
some projects have so called "junior jobs" - bugs or improvements that are easy enough so that a new contributor can tackle them - for example, http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Junior_Jobs
the best course ? find something that interests you, maybe something that you use every day - and find something you don't like about the product, or maybe think of how it could be improved. it's famously called scratching your own itch. why is that an effective way ? because you are interested, of course ! you see the results of your work, you use them.
what project to choose ? it's completely up to you. pick one, look at what they have on their web, wiki, join their irc channel, talk with people. see whether you like them - because that is important.
you could look at major projects who have specific sections to help new contributors like http://contributing.openoffice.org/ or http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute, or take a look at the many smaller projects in various categories like personal or system management software, games or... anything.
but really, basic requirements : 1. you are interested; 2. you can work with the people on the project.
everything else will come itself. also, you are in no way limited to a single project - actually, it is beneficial to participate in multiple projects because you'll get familiar with various organisational, code versioning, documentation and communication practices. contributing a few fixes here and there can be very eye-opening on how these things come together.
i'm more interested in how this could be gotten into openstreetmap. instead of pushing data into another restricted system, getting it out to as many people as possible would be more beneficial.
as already mentioned, you will get used. it might take some, let's say, 6 to 12 months. or 2 years for older people.
i've lived through two currency changes in my life (post-ussr collapse migration from roubles to temporary currency and then moving to "real" currency), and i know at some point the third will come (moving to euros, once we get out of the economical hole;> ) - and i'm not scared about that (except maybe because i like the historical value our current currency naming has) - i know we will have a period when all prices will be listed in two currencies, i know that i will convert initially all prices to the old currency... but then i'll get used to it. when travelling, it usually takes me a week or slightly more to start thinking in the local currency - granted, that's only a single metric (pun intended), you would have to convert from a lot more units - but that's why i mentioned longer period:)
si system really _is_ much easier to use. all examples of the opposite are silly and cherry picked to favour the archaic imperial system.
well, i have avoided even european level flights since the insane security theater expanded their acts to the whole world. going to usa with a shitload of stupid questions and fingerprint taking is over the top, but even the stupid removal of boots at the "security" check, confiscation of water (only to sell it later at 5x and more the price) and nail clamps (yep, happened to me, despite them being less dangerous than the plastic knives handed out on the flight) - i'm avoiding flights as much as i can. screw you cheap airlines, screw you expensive airlines - either make it worth my time or lose me as a client. imagine if you had to purchase tickets on a bus or train weeks if not months ago, had no chance to resell them, had to undergo wicked searches before boarding and had to leave any water, juice or things like nail clamps for the "security" staff to enjoy... you could trash any travel industry.
it's not. word 'believe' in that context means "most likely, with a very high probability". aaand you can't disprove something for which there is absolutely no evidence. it's the same with flying unicorns.
science includes things like psychology, evolution of ethics, statistical probability, criminal research, economics. these, and many other, can easily explain why creating a particular bomb at a particular moment with a particular intent might be a bad idea.
ok, so that "Mt. St. Helens" also is in usa, seattle, right ? oh my, would have been _so_ helpful to say that in the damn summary. it might also have been helpful to, like, link to something useful.
at home i'm using crappy gprs connection (no edge, no thing), which isn't even running at full plain gprs speed. web is only somewhat usable with opera. i have default set to use cached images only. if i come to an image i'd like to see, i can either right click and load it, or enable images temporarily (there's no need to refresh the page, opera just downloads the images). then i switch back to cached mode, and downloaded images are nicely used from that point on whenever i visit the same page:)
1. i have used plain x over dsl lines. it isn't extremely snappy, but it isn't slow - it's just usable. 2. i completely agree... so that's why nobody uses plain x anymore. as i already mentioned, you should try nx. not only it is extremely fast, it also saves interrupted sessions. note, with the freenx version i use, sometimes it puts running session in failed state when connection breaks - when it should actually be suspended. it can be fixed by moving & editing a single file, but i consider that a bug and hope it is already fixed in latest versions:)
looking at the list of your points, ad integration is a tricky one (point, not the implementation). you don't see people requesting microsoft to develop ad agents for linux, do you ?
others i could partially (partially because hurdles and blame distribution varies for those issues) agree to... except these two.
[quote]Group policies don't exist.[/quote] what ? next you should complain that you can't script ms machines with ssh. "grou policies" is a specific ms implementation detail, and it can't and won't work on linux. there are other tools like puppet, cfengine and such that provide mass management (and you also have the power of simple scripting right there). [quote]Remote desktop (VNC) is really slow compared to RDP[/quote] no offence, but who even uses that ? try nx. _that's_ the speed. gui applications are usable over gprs link (plain gprs, no edge, very spotty connection). eat that, rdp (i think that's the ms version, right ?)
good response. any idea about some other issues, like http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5567 ?:) as you can see, the issue was reported some 3 years ago, and was tested quite regularly with new wine releases - for no benefit at all. requested debug output was provided, but nothing has come out of it so far...
i'm an amarok user. i use it almost every day, and i think it is a really wonderful music manager. that is, version 1.4. i can understand the desire to move forward, to experiment, to innovate... but they have to compete with the old version. the desire to implement The Only One Interface is cute (pun intended), but it seems to put off some users. for example, my biggest reason not to use a2 - inability to place collection next to my playlist (at least last i was interested in that). i drag tracks from collection to the playlist now and then, and that popup is _not_ adequate. it's far from being adequate. so i'm continuing to use amarok 1.4. i had to do some simple changes to get mp4 support working with latest libs (not that trivial for a complete noncoder;) ), but until a2 drops the "we know best" mentality and gives in for the minimal customizability crowd, i'm staying with the 1.4 - which is still consider quite a masterpiece.
As for russian technical products, this is... a very weird mix of excellent quality parts and abysmal quality parts, assembled together with the greatest attention about 50% of the time
that's the best quote on the topic i've heard. how true. in that time, people were used to buying a product, fixing several fundamental design/manufacturing flaws - and then using the item for generations. i have several examples around the house, and i remember many more:)
I'm not a Big Government fan, but maybe we need to regulate quality of manufactured products and even tax crappy items more heavily.
on the other side of the water, we have 2 year warranty on anything against manufacturing defects. vendors/resellers are simply required to provide and honour that.
while wear-and-tear warranty cases are arguable, it seems to me that this requirement alone has increased product quality somewhat, at least the more expensive ones - for a cheap one one might not be bothered to return it, although i have returned a few bucks flashlight after it burned out a week later. turned out, somebody had installed a lamp for lower voltage devices, so they _all_ were burning out in a few weeks. i'm wondering how many returned the crap thing, though. other thing i was being annoying about - a garden power extension cord of 50m, costing some $15 or so broke after 6 months of use. they replaced one of the contacts, and it is still working fine for 5 years now... on one hand i do that because i'm just happening to be near the shop often, on the other hand i spend my time because that increases (by a tiiiny bit) my chances to get a better product next time;)
don't you have some similar requirements on warranty ? while current ones here leave room for discussion and allows to partially avoid responsibility, the only additional restrictions i can think of are wear-and-tear inclusion in the minimal required term and compensation to the customer for time spent returning the broken item, then getting the fixed or replaced one. that would increase the relative cost of producing crap.
on the other hand, i still have pentium 1 machine serving web content, running mysql. later generation hardware seems to break down much faster - this also might be partially caused by the "everything onboard" mentality, which increases the chances of complete breakage a lot.
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don't you already have tax on blank media, portable and non-portable music players and other things ?
at least over here in europe we have such taxes and all icnome goes to a private, greedy, non-transparent and monopolistic organisation. oh, recently they threatened users who included youtube videos in their blog postings. and they say that countryside motels must pay them for every tv set and radio that could be available to guests.
so yeah, taxing on content they don't have even stood close to produce and giving that money to private entities is common already...
some projects have so called "junior jobs" - bugs or improvements that are easy enough so that a new contributor can tackle them - for example, http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Junior_Jobs
the best course ? find something that interests you, maybe something that you use every day - and find something you don't like about the product, or maybe think of how it could be improved.
it's famously called scratching your own itch.
why is that an effective way ? because you are interested, of course ! you see the results of your work, you use them.
what project to choose ? it's completely up to you. pick one, look at what they have on their web, wiki, join their irc channel, talk with people. see whether you like them - because that is important.
you could look at major projects who have specific sections to help new contributors like http://contributing.openoffice.org/ or http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute, or take a look at the many smaller projects in various categories like personal or system management software, games or... anything.
but really, basic requirements :
1. you are interested;
2. you can work with the people on the project.
everything else will come itself.
also, you are in no way limited to a single project - actually, it is beneficial to participate in multiple projects because you'll get familiar with various organisational, code versioning, documentation and communication practices. contributing a few fixes here and there can be very eye-opening on how these things come together.
good luck :)
i just imagined future historians spending decades on that text and wondering why was it reproduced in so many locations like a mantra
i'm more interested in how this could be gotten into openstreetmap. instead of pushing data into another restricted system, getting it out to as many people as possible would be more beneficial.
I don't have the patience to actually send them in to the company, though.
you just explained why they burn out in 3 months
as already mentioned, you will get used. it might take some, let's say, 6 to 12 months. or 2 years for older people.
i've lived through two currency changes in my life (post-ussr collapse migration from roubles to temporary currency and then moving to "real" currency), and i know at some point the third will come (moving to euros, once we get out of the economical hole ;> ) - and i'm not scared about that (except maybe because i like the historical value our current currency naming has) - i know we will have a period when all prices will be listed in two currencies, i know that i will convert initially all prices to the old currency... but then i'll get used to it. when travelling, it usually takes me a week or slightly more to start thinking in the local currency - granted, that's only a single metric (pun intended), you would have to convert from a lot more units - but that's why i mentioned longer period :)
si system really _is_ much easier to use. all examples of the opposite are silly and cherry picked to favour the archaic imperial system.
or if he orders 200 5 kilogram bags (which is really tough to convert to 1,000 kilograms).
while i've lost quite some skill in mathematics, i think you just hinted at why some people would prefer pi to be 3.
or maybe you aimed for the funny mod.
well, i have avoided even european level flights since the insane security theater expanded their acts to the whole world. going to usa with a shitload of stupid questions and fingerprint taking is over the top, but even the stupid removal of boots at the "security" check, confiscation of water (only to sell it later at 5x and more the price) and nail clamps (yep, happened to me, despite them being less dangerous than the plastic knives handed out on the flight) - i'm avoiding flights as much as i can. screw you cheap airlines, screw you expensive airlines - either make it worth my time or lose me as a client. imagine if you had to purchase tickets on a bus or train weeks if not months ago, had no chance to resell them, had to undergo wicked searches before boarding and had to leave any water, juice or things like nail clamps for the "security" staff to enjoy... you could trash any travel industry.
it's not. word 'believe' in that context means "most likely, with a very high probability".
aaand you can't disprove something for which there is absolutely no evidence.
it's the same with flying unicorns.
science includes things like psychology, evolution of ethics, statistical probability, criminal research, economics.
these, and many other, can easily explain why creating a particular bomb at a particular moment with a particular intent might be a bad idea.
ok, so that "Mt. St. Helens" also is in usa, seattle, right ?
oh my, would have been _so_ helpful to say that in the damn summary.
it might also have been helpful to, like, link to something useful.
talking about that quote, when did germany start using imperial units ?
I had a temperature of 103.
oh damn. first thing that came to my mind - "that would require increased pressure"
at home i'm using crappy gprs connection (no edge, no thing), which isn't even running at full plain gprs speed. :)
web is only somewhat usable with opera.
i have default set to use cached images only. if i come to an image i'd like to see, i can either right click and load it, or enable images temporarily (there's no need to refresh the page, opera just downloads the images). then i switch back to cached mode, and downloaded images are nicely used from that point on whenever i visit the same page
you have polluted whole thread with your useless ranting/trolling. please, stop.
1. i have used plain x over dsl lines. it isn't extremely snappy, but it isn't slow - it's just usable. :)
2. i completely agree... so that's why nobody uses plain x anymore.
as i already mentioned, you should try nx. not only it is extremely fast, it also saves interrupted sessions. note, with the freenx version i use, sometimes it puts running session in failed state when connection breaks - when it should actually be suspended. it can be fixed by moving & editing a single file, but i consider that a bug and hope it is already fixed in latest versions
looking at the list of your points, ad integration is a tricky one (point, not the implementation). you don't see people requesting microsoft to develop ad agents for linux, do you ?
others i could partially (partially because hurdles and blame distribution varies for those issues) agree to... except these two.
[quote]Group policies don't exist.[/quote]
what ? next you should complain that you can't script ms machines with ssh. "grou policies" is a specific ms implementation detail, and it can't and won't work on linux. there are other tools like puppet, cfengine and such that provide mass management (and you also have the power of simple scripting right there).
[quote]Remote desktop (VNC) is really slow compared to RDP[/quote]
no offence, but who even uses that ? try nx. _that's_ the speed. gui applications are usable over gprs link (plain gprs, no edge, very spotty connection). eat that, rdp (i think that's the ms version, right ?)
http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD
really ?
note, i'm a linux user myself, and i have looked at sane devices list quite a lot when trying to determine which scanner to purchase several times before.
good response. any idea about some other issues, like http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5567 ? :)
as you can see, the issue was reported some 3 years ago, and was tested quite regularly with new wine releases - for no benefit at all.
requested debug output was provided, but nothing has come out of it so far...
i'm an amarok user. i use it almost every day, and i think it is a really wonderful music manager. that is, version 1.4. ;) ), but until a2 drops the "we know best" mentality and gives in for the minimal customizability crowd, i'm staying with the 1.4 - which is still consider quite a masterpiece.
i can understand the desire to move forward, to experiment, to innovate... but they have to compete with the old version.
the desire to implement The Only One Interface is cute (pun intended), but it seems to put off some users. for example, my biggest reason not to use a2 - inability to place collection next to my playlist (at least last i was interested in that).
i drag tracks from collection to the playlist now and then, and that popup is _not_ adequate. it's far from being adequate.
so i'm continuing to use amarok 1.4. i had to do some simple changes to get mp4 support working with latest libs (not that trivial for a complete noncoder
too bad. i've been using lastfm scrobbling for quite some time. will disable it when i get to my amarok install next time...
As for russian technical products, this is ... a very weird mix of excellent quality parts and abysmal quality parts, assembled together with the greatest attention about 50% of the time
that's the best quote on the topic i've heard. how true. in that time, people were used to buying a product, fixing several fundamental design/manufacturing flaws - and then using the item for generations. :)
i have several examples around the house, and i remember many more
I'm not a Big Government fan, but maybe we need to regulate quality of manufactured products and even tax crappy items more heavily.
on the other side of the water, we have 2 year warranty on anything against manufacturing defects. vendors/resellers are simply required to provide and honour that.
while wear-and-tear warranty cases are arguable, it seems to me that this requirement alone has increased product quality somewhat, at least the more expensive ones - for a cheap one one might not be bothered to return it, although i have returned a few bucks flashlight after it burned out a week later. turned out, somebody had installed a lamp for lower voltage devices, so they _all_ were burning out in a few weeks. i'm wondering how many returned the crap thing, though. ;)
other thing i was being annoying about - a garden power extension cord of 50m, costing some $15 or so broke after 6 months of use. they replaced one of the contacts, and it is still working fine for 5 years now...
on one hand i do that because i'm just happening to be near the shop often, on the other hand i spend my time because that increases (by a tiiiny bit) my chances to get a better product next time
don't you have some similar requirements on warranty ? while current ones here leave room for discussion and allows to partially avoid responsibility, the only additional restrictions i can think of are wear-and-tear inclusion in the minimal required term and compensation to the customer for time spent returning the broken item, then getting the fixed or replaced one. that would increase the relative cost of producing crap.
on the other hand, i still have pentium 1 machine serving web content, running mysql. later generation hardware seems to break down much faster - this also might be partially caused by the "everything onboard" mentality, which increases the chances of complete breakage a lot.