A 20 pound bicycle needs a 20 pound lock. (Kryptonite NYC Fahgettaboutit chain, which, btw, stops nobody with a voltage inverter and a Skillsaw with abrasive cutoff wheel)
This smart-card-on-a-cd is like putting the Kryptonite lock on the 40 pound bicycle.
"I love words. I thank you for hearing my words. I want to tell you something about words that I uh, I think is important. I love..as I say, they're my work, they're my play, they're my passion. Words are all we have really.
We have thoughts, but thoughts are fluid. You know, [humming]. And, then we assign a word to a thought, [clicks tongue]. And we're stuck with that word for that thought. So be careful with words. I like to think, yeah, the same words that hurt can heal. It's a matter of how you pick them.
There are some people that aren't into all the words. There are some people who would have you not use certain words. Yeah, there are 400,000 words in the English language, and there are seven of them that you can't say on television. What a ratio that is. 399,993 to seven. They must really be bad. They'd have to be outrageous, to be separated from a group that large. All of you over here, you seven. Bad words. That's what they told us they were, remember? 'That's a bad word.' 'Awwww.' There are no bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad Intentions.
And words, you know the seven don't you? Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits, huh? Those are the heavy seven. Those are the ones that will infect your soul, curve your spine and keep the country from winning the war.
Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits, wow. Tits doesn't even belong on the list, you know. It's such a friendly sounding word. It sounds like a nickname. 'Hey, Tits, come here. Tits, meet Toots, Toots, Tits, Tits, Toots.' It sounds like a snack doesn't it? Yes, I know, it is, right. But I don't mean the sexist snack, I mean, New Nabisco Tits. The new Cheese Tits, and Corn Tits and Pizza Tits, Sesame Tits Onion Tits, Tater Tits, Yeah. Betcha can't eat just one. That's true I usually switch off . But I mean that word does not belong on the list.
Actually, none of the words belong on the list, but you can understand why some of them are there. I am not completely insensitive to people's feelings. You know, I can dig why some of those words got on the list...like cocksucker and motherfucker. Those are...those are heavy-weight words. There's a lot going on there, man. Besides the literal translation and the emotional feeling. They're just busy words. There's a lot of syllables to contend with. And those K's. Those are aggressive sounds, they jump out at you. CocksuckerMotherfuckerCocksucker. It's like an assault, on you. So I can dig that.
And we mentioned shit earlier, of course. Two of the other 4-letter Anglo-Saxon words are Piss and Cunt, which go together of course. But forget about that. A little accidental humor there. Piss and Cunt. The reason Piss and Cunt are on the list is that a long time ago certain ladies said 'Those are the two I am not going to say. I don't mind Fuck and Shit, but P and C are out. P and C are out.' Which led to such stupid sentences as 'OK, you fuckers, I am going to tinkle now.'
And of course the word Fuck. The word Fuck, I don't really...well, this is some more accidental humor, but I don't really want to get into that now. Because I think it takes too long. But I do mean that. I mean, I think the word fuck is an important word. It's the beginning of life, and, yet it's a word we use to hurt one other, quite often. And uh, people much wiser than I have said, I'd rather have my son watch a film with two people making love than two people trying to kill one other. And I of course agree. I wish I know who said it first, and I agree with that. But I would like to take it a step further. I would like to substitute the word fuck, for the word kill in all those movie cliches we grew up with. 'Okay Sheriff, we're gonna fuck ya now. But we're gonna fuck ya slow.' So maybe next year I'll have a whole fuckin' rap on that word. I hope so. Uh, there are two-way words, but those are the seven you can never say on television. Under any circumstances you just can not say them ever, ever ever, not even clinically. You can not weave them in the panel with Doc an
Since the lawsuits and the 1500 letters they sent out to major Linux users threatening them with lawsuits and Darl saying "Contracts are what you use against your customers," the market for UnixWare has dwindled to nothing. Your treasured UnixWare is attached to something that stinks like dead skunk, amorphophallus titanum, GAPO, rotten eggs, sewage, and the Devil's own brimstone combined. The next thing _less_ revolting than SCO is a pedophile rapist cannibal terrorist.
That depends on what the original poster means by Linux. Linux is, and has always been a kernel. If the OP meant distribution and support from a retail vendor, I know Novell still supports SLES 8 and SuSE 8 which were 2.4 based. Redhat still supports their enterprise 2.4 based releases. So, in other words, if you're still on 2.4, you can _still get support_. If you're on a free distribution, you support yourself anyway, which is no big deal.
2.4 is just a kernel. All the rest are applications and they can be mixed and matched at will. Windows people simply can't wrap their brains around that concept, but that doesn't surprise me in the least, because of the way Microsoft ties what should be userland to kernel space.
So I don't know what the big deal is. You windows fanboys amaze me, spouting the FUD "hey, maybe 2.4 isn't as supported as Windows is supported." Bullshit. If I wanted to, I could go grab one of the 1.1 kernels and build something around it. You can't even _buy_ Windows 95, but if I have an application that requires a kernel as small as 1.1.13 was, I can _still use it_.
Doing that is almost the equivalent of going back to DOS (but without the bogosity), but hey, you can't even _buy_ a retail box of MS-DOS these days, can you?
Ok, I'm assuming you're joking, but for those who do _not_ know that you can bypass the Windows update site and simply download and burn to CD so your friends don't have to suffer, go HERE:
The latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.4.33.3 2006-08-31 20:20 UTC The latest prepatch for the 2.4 Linux kernel tree is: 2.4.34-pre4 2006-10-02 20:45 UTC
We're stretched so thin that we're losing Afghanistan. We can't afford to go invade North Korea. That's what's crazy about all this because I'm sure Kim Jong Il has access to western news and media (not that he lets his slaves see it) and knows it. What's even crazier is that if he stopped the stupidity we'd probably send a crapload of aid and all the bondage porn he could handle.^1
The only ones with the resources to invade North Korea happen to be to their _north_.
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1. I heard that somewhere. Add it for spice. *cough*
"Russia's defence ministry said it was "100% certain" that an underground nuclear explosion had taken place, ITAR-Tass news agency reported"
Funny, that carries a bit more weight with me, and I'm old enough to have been afraid of the Russians nuking us - complete with reading articles in the newspaper about what might happen if they dropped the Bomb on the Quonset Point Naval Air Station.
Yes I'm a layman. No, I don't surrender my brain to the first thing that comes across on the wire.
I know it's entirely possible for North Korea to pull it off. The Bomb is 60 year old technology. We did it with slide rules and people with the _job description_ of "Computer" let alone electronic computers. Since it's looking to be real, maybe China will get off its duff and do something about the basket case in its back yard.
"Forgive my seismology expertise but, if one is measured in Canada wouldn't the S waves be cancelled because they'd go through the core (the test was in Pakistan)? P waves propogate, S don't... right?"
S waves _do_. They just don't make it through the outer core back to the mantle. Whether you see S-waves depends on where you're standing and where the quake is.
Someone back up there had a map of Korean seismic events. There were events in SOUTH KOREA between 35 and 0 meters according to the map. SK has nukes now?
"Even if it's not a nuke, it's a lot more sad: it's the desparate attempt of a nation to protect itself against inevitable invasion from hostile forces."
No, it's the desperate attempt by a nutcase to somehow prove to his slaves^W constituents that he's still relevant.
Kim Jong Il says more to keep himself from being assassinated by his own people than anything.
I thought this was bloody obvious. Apparently not.
For those like the anonymous coward I am replying to who still can't read time scales:
The Pakistan nuclear test entire time scale of the graph itself is a minute, with actual P wave length measured in a couple of seconds. There is no discernable S wave that I can see.
The Korean event lasted roughly 15 minutes if you look at both P and S waves starting at 14:29 local time.
Political shit follows. If you don't like it don't read it:
Unfortunately, I cannot trust this administration to tell the truth about _anything_. I am not a seismologist, but I can compare graphs, and use what God supposedly gave me. I was totally sucked into Gulf War 2 in 2003, and I'll be damned if I'll take _anything_ this administration says at face value any longer. Earlier this week I read some of my usenet postings from 2003 supporting the invasion and I am embarrassed by my own gullibility.
"The point is that a call over a POTS line is very difficult for nefarious users to compromise unless they have physical access between you and the exchange"
You see that green box in the neighborhood? Good.
"Even conversations on a normal old fashioned GSM mobile are encrypted and cannot be trivially snooped with an off the shelf scanner."
To be specific, you can't get a scanner that covers the 800MHz range. Not a new one, anyway. Go to any hamfest and find someone selling their old one (good luck). There _are_ downconverters you can _build_, however.
"Actually, that's not true for virtually anyone who has upgraded their home phone at least once in about the last decade. Virtually all except the nastiest less-than-10-USD handsets use DSC."
You should talk to my aunt. She's got the same phone from 20 years ago and it sounds like crap. Wish she would go back to an antique rotary dial _good_ sounding phone or a new phone.
Slashdot Mirror
Hate to break it to ya, but they come with flat keys now.
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"What? Why/how would one put an abrasive wheel on a *reciprocating* jigsaw?"
/ servlet/product3_27_40027_-1_331352_281178_189346_ 362
That's a Sawzall.
http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/webapp/wcs/stores
Skilsaw is a circular saw.
http://www.skiltools.com/en/
Hope this helps.
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It's the Star. Hardly a real newspaper. I rank it far below the Boston Herald and the NY Post. Slightly above the National Enquirer.
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All bicycles weigh 40 pounds.
A 40 pound bicycle needs no lock.
A 30 pound bicycle needs a 10 pound lock.
A 25 pound bicycle needs a 15 pound lock.
A 20 pound bicycle needs a 20 pound lock. (Kryptonite NYC Fahgettaboutit chain, which, btw, stops nobody with a voltage inverter and a Skillsaw with abrasive cutoff wheel)
This smart-card-on-a-cd is like putting the Kryptonite lock on the 40 pound bicycle.
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When I can put Wikipedia on an HP48, then I will be happy.
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"I love words. I thank you for hearing my words. I want to tell you something about words that I uh, I think is important. I love..as I say, they're my work, they're my play, they're my passion. Words are all we have really.
We have thoughts, but thoughts are fluid. You know, [humming]. And, then we assign a word to a thought, [clicks tongue]. And we're stuck with that word for that thought. So be careful with words. I like to think, yeah, the same words that hurt can heal. It's a matter of how you pick them.
There are some people that aren't into all the words. There are some people who would have you not use certain words. Yeah, there are 400,000 words in the English language, and there are seven of them that you can't say on television. What a ratio that is. 399,993 to seven. They must really be bad. They'd have to be outrageous, to be separated from a group that large. All of you over here, you seven. Bad words. That's what they told us they were, remember? 'That's a bad word.' 'Awwww.' There are no bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad Intentions.
And words, you know the seven don't you? Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits, huh? Those are the heavy seven. Those are the ones that will infect your soul, curve your spine and keep the country from winning the war.
Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits, wow. Tits doesn't even belong on the list, you know. It's such a friendly sounding word. It sounds like a nickname. 'Hey, Tits, come here. Tits, meet Toots, Toots, Tits, Tits, Toots.' It sounds like a snack doesn't it? Yes, I know, it is, right. But I don't mean the sexist snack, I mean, New Nabisco Tits. The new Cheese Tits, and Corn Tits and Pizza Tits, Sesame Tits Onion Tits, Tater Tits, Yeah. Betcha can't eat just one. That's true I usually switch off . But I mean that word does not belong on the list.
Actually, none of the words belong on the list, but you can understand why some of them are there. I am not completely insensitive to people's feelings. You know, I can dig why some of those words got on the list...like cocksucker and motherfucker. Those are...those are heavy-weight words. There's a lot going on there, man. Besides the literal translation and the emotional feeling. They're just busy words. There's a lot of syllables to contend with. And those K's. Those are aggressive sounds, they jump out at you. CocksuckerMotherfuckerCocksucker. It's like an assault, on you. So I can dig that.
And we mentioned shit earlier, of course. Two of the other 4-letter Anglo-Saxon words are Piss and Cunt, which go together of course. But forget about that. A little accidental humor there. Piss and Cunt. The reason Piss and Cunt are on the list is that a long time ago certain ladies said 'Those are the two I am not going to say. I don't mind Fuck and Shit, but P and C are out. P and C are out.' Which led to such stupid sentences as 'OK, you fuckers, I am going to tinkle now.'
And of course the word Fuck. The word Fuck, I don't really...well, this is some more accidental humor, but I don't really want to get into that now. Because I think it takes too long. But I do mean that. I mean, I think the word fuck is an important word. It's the beginning of life, and, yet it's a word we use to hurt one other, quite often. And uh, people much wiser than I have said, I'd rather have my son watch a film with two people making love than two people trying to kill one other. And I of course agree. I wish I know who said it first, and I agree with that. But I would like to take it a step further. I would like to substitute the word fuck, for the word kill in all those movie cliches we grew up with. 'Okay Sheriff, we're gonna fuck ya now. But we're gonna fuck ya slow.' So maybe next year I'll have a whole fuckin' rap on that word. I hope so.
Uh, there are two-way words, but those are the seven you can never say on television. Under any circumstances you just can not say them ever, ever ever, not even clinically. You can not weave them in the panel with Doc an
"It might be possible to wait for many of the emergency vehicles to be on one side of the city and then start a fire on the other side of the city."
Funny, that can be done _without_ computers _or_ 911 tracking.
These guys are just worried that someone might point to poor performance. That's all. It's entirely _cya_.
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"Does anyone happen to know what his involvement was, if any, with Novell's purchase of UnixWare from AT&T?"
http://www.sco.com/products/unixware714/
Since the lawsuits and the 1500 letters they sent out to major Linux users threatening them with lawsuits and Darl saying "Contracts are what you use against your customers," the market for UnixWare has dwindled to nothing. Your treasured UnixWare is attached to something that stinks like dead skunk, amorphophallus titanum, GAPO, rotten eggs, sewage, and the Devil's own brimstone combined. The next thing _less_ revolting than SCO is a pedophile rapist cannibal terrorist.
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I am?
That depends on what the original poster means by Linux. Linux is, and has always been a kernel. If the OP meant distribution and support from a retail vendor, I know Novell still supports SLES 8 and SuSE 8 which were 2.4 based. Redhat still supports their enterprise 2.4 based releases. So, in other words, if you're still on 2.4, you can _still get support_. If you're on a free distribution, you support yourself anyway, which is no big deal.
2.4 is just a kernel. All the rest are applications and they can be mixed and matched at will. Windows people simply can't wrap their brains around that concept, but that doesn't surprise me in the least, because of the way Microsoft ties what should be userland to kernel space.
So I don't know what the big deal is. You windows fanboys amaze me, spouting the FUD "hey, maybe 2.4 isn't as supported as Windows is supported." Bullshit. If I wanted to, I could go grab one of the 1.1 kernels and build something around it. You can't even _buy_ Windows 95, but if I have an application that requires a kernel as small as 1.1.13 was, I can _still use it_.
Doing that is almost the equivalent of going back to DOS (but without the bogosity), but hey, you can't even _buy_ a retail box of MS-DOS these days, can you?
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Ok, I'm assuming you're joking, but for those who do _not_ know that you can bypass the Windows update site and simply download and burn to CD so your friends don't have to suffer, go HERE:
a milyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displa ylang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?F
Actually, if your friends are running Windows, they _are_ suffering.
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Why don't you look for yourself?
The latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.4.33.3 2006-08-31 20:20 UTC
The latest prepatch for the 2.4 Linux kernel tree is: 2.4.34-pre4 2006-10-02 20:45 UTC
Seems pretty recent to me.
http://www.kernel.org/
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"in the hope that they won't be attacked."
We're stretched so thin that we're losing Afghanistan. We can't afford to go invade North Korea. That's what's crazy about all this because I'm sure Kim Jong Il has access to western news and media (not that he lets his slaves see it) and knows it. What's even crazier is that if he stopped the stupidity we'd probably send a crapload of aid and all the bondage porn he could handle.^1
The only ones with the resources to invade North Korea happen to be to their _north_.
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BMO
1. I heard that somewhere. Add it for spice. *cough*
"Russia's defence ministry said it was "100% certain" that an underground nuclear explosion had taken place, ITAR-Tass news agency reported"
Funny, that carries a bit more weight with me, and I'm old enough to have been afraid of the Russians nuking us - complete with reading articles in the newspaper about what might happen if they dropped the Bomb on the Quonset Point Naval Air Station.
Yes I'm a layman. No, I don't surrender my brain to the first thing that comes across on the wire.
I know it's entirely possible for North Korea to pull it off. The Bomb is 60 year old technology. We did it with slide rules and people with the _job description_ of "Computer" let alone electronic computers. Since it's looking to be real, maybe China will get off its duff and do something about the basket case in its back yard.
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"Forgive my seismology expertise but, if one is measured in Canada wouldn't the S waves be cancelled because they'd go through the core (the test was in Pakistan)? P waves propogate, S don't ... right?"
I ntroQuakes/Notes/waves_and_interior.html
S waves _do_. They just don't make it through the outer core back to the mantle. Whether you see S-waves depends on where you're standing and where the quake is.
PSU link:
http://eqseis.geosc.psu.edu/~cammon/HTML/Classes/
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"How about the North Korean administration?"
You really had to ask that question? What, exactly, is the title of this thread? Who started it?
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"Zero meters depth, dude. SOMETHING went boom."
Going by your logic...
Someone back up there had a map of Korean seismic events. There were events in SOUTH KOREA between 35 and 0 meters according to the map. SK has nukes now?
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"other than a reduction in the magnitude, they don't look all that different to me."
It looks like the whole planet rings like a bell, doesn't it? The distance has certainly stretched the signal.
Thanks for the link.
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"The NK test results were recoded in South Korea. Your Pakistan test results were taken in Canada!"
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you couldn't measure earthquakes without being on top of them!
"Asshat."
Well, EXCUSE ME for not taking this at face value. Whatever.
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"Even if it's not a nuke, it's a lot more sad: it's the desparate attempt of a nation to protect itself against inevitable invasion from hostile forces."
No, it's the desperate attempt by a nutcase to somehow prove to his slaves^W constituents that he's still relevant.
Kim Jong Il says more to keep himself from being assassinated by his own people than anything.
I thought this was bloody obvious. Apparently not.
Cue the Freeper brigade.
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For those like the anonymous coward I am replying to who still can't read time scales:
The Pakistan nuclear test entire time scale of the graph itself is a minute, with actual P wave length measured in a couple of seconds. There is no discernable S wave that I can see.
The Korean event lasted roughly 15 minutes if you look at both P and S waves starting at 14:29 local time.
Political shit follows. If you don't like it don't read it:
Unfortunately, I cannot trust this administration to tell the truth about _anything_. I am not a seismologist, but I can compare graphs, and use what God supposedly gave me. I was totally sucked into Gulf War 2 in 2003, and I'll be damned if I'll take _anything_ this administration says at face value any longer. Earlier this week I read some of my usenet postings from 2003 supporting the invasion and I am embarrassed by my own gullibility.
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It's not a nuke.
d ata/INCN_24hr.html
Compare the purported "nukular test":
http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/telemetry_
Notice how long this lasts.
To a _real_ nuclear test
http://can-ndc.nrcan.gc.ca/recent/980528_e.php
Again, notice how long this lasts. Hint: look at the scale of both graphs.
One of these things is not like the other.
I'm sure that you can figure it out for yourself.
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"I'm showing my age here"
I don't know what's worse, you saying that or me almost losing a keyboard.
"It's just this chromium switch here Aaaah, you people are SO superstitious"
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I hope this actually happens. This will be Microsoft's "Kurt Cobain" moment.
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"The point is that a call over a POTS line is very difficult for nefarious users to compromise unless they have physical access between you and the exchange"
You see that green box in the neighborhood? Good.
"Even conversations on a normal old fashioned GSM mobile are encrypted and cannot be trivially snooped with an off the shelf scanner."
To be specific, you can't get a scanner that covers the 800MHz range. Not a new one, anyway. Go to any hamfest and find someone selling their old one (good luck). There _are_ downconverters you can _build_, however.
And....
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4130
"Actually, that's not true for virtually anyone who has upgraded their home phone at least once in about the last decade. Virtually all except the nastiest less-than-10-USD handsets use DSC."
You should talk to my aunt. She's got the same phone from 20 years ago and it sounds like crap. Wish she would go back to an antique rotary dial _good_ sounding phone or a new phone.
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BMO
"Does it really matter if jobs go from LA to Las Vegas or from LA to Toronto or from LA to India? "
Spoken by someone with absolutely no ties to family, community, or anyone, for that matter.
Going from LA to India really _is no the same_ as going from LA to Vegas. At least with that, you can still drive to see your family on a weekend.
"I am not a troll."
And Nixon said "I am not a crook" and Jessica Hahn said "I am not a bimbo"
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