Has nothing to do ith Mericans. It happens everywhere.It is just that they speak better English (I know) than they do French, German, Spanish or any other language.
I live in Belgium. To detect this I use an email alias for every company I deal with. e.g. slashdot.org@example.com. That way if they sell the data, I will know and I know where to go to to send a complaint. Over a +10 year period this has only been the case with ebay, so no more business with them. For all the others I never had an issue. The companies I worked for where all very aware of the privacy laws and people will get training in it. People I had contact with about privacy laws where in all parts of the company, be it sales, marketing, legal; accounting, IT; customer support or whomever. Customers are also pretty well aware of this.
It goes so far that in some situations if you call for info about your spouces account, companies are not allowed to give information.
Although it makes work a bit harder, I am happy it is there and I would not mind if things where even a bit stricter.
I am talking 15 seconds for the whole transaction. That means taking out my wallet, taking the card, putting it in the slot, waiting for the beep, entering the code+ENTER, wait for the OK, take out my card, get the receipt, put the receipt and the card in my wallet and pit away my wallet, so I can pick up my stuff.
So with you the swipe will take 1 second, the entering, waiting, pin and taking is about 4-5 seconds. So still slower, but not ny an amount that should bother anybody.
I also have seen cards with borked magnetic strips, so there is that.
So again: the real issue is that you did not adapt the PIN way.
There are accounts that are directed to kids in Belgium as well. Parents will be responsible and they can not be overdrawn. They do come with a card, I think. Not really an issue as from 12 years on they will have to have a valid ID with them anyway. Many parents are starting to use pre-paid cards as payment is done more and more cashless.
Is perhaps the easiest way to do it as well. You have a permanent order to transfer their allowance to their account. You can have details on how they are spending that money, if you so wish. You can also explain them abot saving accounts. They can transfer the money they saved to a different account that is only used for saving and can only be used to transfer money to a single account. Remember that the banking system in Europe is pretty up to date and "with it". I'm not "with it" anymore, but the banks are. Wireless payment, prepaid, payment by phone, online accounts and for those kids it is almost always free, because banks know that most people will stick with their bank till they die. So much cheaper than getting new customers. Hook them while they are young and later they will take the mortage with you.
I see going to the movies as I see eating out to a restaurant (Disclaimer, this does not include fast food) or going the a live performance. The reason I do it is not because it is cheaper, because I can buy it cheaper. I do not do it because it is easy, because I can do it at home easier. The reason I do it is to experience something with friends. Going to a movie together and then talking about that is what I value.
I go to restaurants more than I go to the movies, especially because I like to share time with friends and during the movie you don't during 90 minutes.
Sure, I can order a pizza and have it delivered at home and we can eat it there. I rather go to an Italian pizzeria, order first a nice Cynar, order a starter, next a pizza, bottle of wine and end with a ristrotto and a good grappa and have a beer somewhere else to end the evening. So instead of paying 10EUR for a pizza I pay 50EUR to have an evening with a friend (time would be 07:00 till midnight or so) . Not everything is about money.
So the reason I go less to the cinema has nothing to do with the theaters. It is how I would want to spend my time and staring at a screen and say nothing I rather do alone. What would be interesting would be like they do Kareoke in Japan where you have private rooms. Rent a small room with friends to watch a movie. Add some food and what not and you can talk and they can cross sell. Because it isn't really about the price, it is about the whole experience.
I think I have choosen the wrong carrer path. First I worked in a factory where I was replaced by a a robot. Next I woreked at a food chain, where I was replaced by the self-checkout. Next I became an Uber driver and I am getting replaced by self driving cars, so I have invested in becoming a professional gamer and now THIS?
Read here on/. tyhat it is because instead of just using only the standard check that dopes it all, they load in every check available. So basically it needs to the the same check 50 times.
The data is not that much different then what is send when you do a swipe. Even with the PIN there is not that much extra that is being send. And it does not matter that the I do a payment in Belgium or in Spain or anywhere else in the world. The speed is about the same.
I live in Belgium and I did a wireless payment in Spain. That basically means tapping the card on the reader and not entering your PIN and I could walk away in seconds. Adding the entering of the card and pressing the pin might add 10 seconds or so.
it is crazy that this worked with cards I had in Belgium from an American Bank and that people I know that have US cards with chip and use them in Belgium do not have the same problem here.
So the knowledge is available and has been used worldwide. The problem detection has been done a LOT already and beta testing has been concluded in the rest of the world for decades and the US is STILL able to fuck it up?
And yes, there are smaller towns in poorer countries that are more remote then where you live where it works better.
The only fail I agree with is that you do not use your PIN.
It takes about 15 seconds for the payment. Due to postings here, I have tested it and also looked at other people trying it out. I have NEVER forgotten my card, ever. I put it in, type my PIN and take it out while I have my wallet in my other hand. Almost everybody does it like that. Why would you NOT take it out again. Corroded card? I have been using these cards for I do not know how long. Never had that issue. It does happen that sometimes the card or the reader fails. However when you see how many million of transactions fail, this is an minute amount and the magnetic strip fails more than the chip percentage wise. It is just not used that much any more in Europe.
It was not intended for online purchase security. You could even claim that it does not help open a beer and even if true, it is not relevant.
So I agree with the PIN part, the rest are apparently issue that have to do with the Imperial system as the rest of the world does not have an issue with it and many have moved on to even more modern things, like wireless payments for smaller amounts.
So yes, we get it: people do not like change. It happened when people where forced to go from Win3.1 to Win95. It happens all the time when things change. I know people moaned when HD was deemed stoopid for TV. It is happening now allover again. People do not like change.
There is also a reason that many banks in Europe block the cards for the USofA and you have to ask them to activate it. If that is the case, how bad is the issue in the US you think? Or do you think that walking around the city and throwing in windows is good for the economy, because the window makers are making more money?
A driverless car has sensors, not eyes and spatial awareness
From what I have seen, they do have eyes and spatial awareness. If they don't, they should either not be driverless. Because if they don't, they should be on tracks and be called a train or a monorail. And even those will have some avoidance system.
I am sure that in many cases a machine will be able to see a branch on powerlines better than a human can. They are able to read several hundred licence places in a second. I can't do that.
Zoning will not work already alone because condistions change all the time. Cyclist running red lights, people double and tripple parking. Is that person crossing the road, or just walking 3 steps because he wants to avaid hitting the hotdog stand and rather walks behint it than wait 2 seconds?
And as for driving in India? I would say that is the easy part. They just remove 90% of the security restrictions they have and they are still three times as safe as any human driver or donkey on the road.
Lowering the 100,000+ deaths per year in the world due to humans driving is the actual goal.
No it isn't the goal. The goal is to either sell self driving cars or own the (at least a large part) of whatever drives around. They are in it for the money, not for anything else. Having less dead people is a nice marketing bonus, but that is not the goal.
They also always say that it will reduce the number of cars and that might be true IF a lot of people switch over of not owning a car, but rather like renting it when you need it, because that way they make more money.
And less cars does not mean less miles driven. Asuming people will drive the same amount, a number of cars will be driven empty, because the car is needed at place B, but the last person left the car at place A. So more miles in total with less cars and a lot less parking.
And for those who do own the car, it will be more miles as well. Drive the kids to school, drie back empty, drive to the store and back, empty to the school and back with the kids. So back frm school and back to school is empty, so more miles.
The ONLY reason they actually want lowering the death si because then it will be easier to change the laws in their favour and sell more cars or more time in the cars.
Remember when we used to actually own our hardware? When we owned our software? Owning your car will be a memory as well and that will not mean it will be better. Disclaimer: I do not own a car and use car-sharing. I am also an exception of where I live and work and that the company I work for pays my commute to work, which is shorter in time by public transport than by car anyway. I just rent a car for 1.5 hours per week to do all mu shopping and 3 times per yar if I am the designated driver and we go and eat somewhere with friends that we can't walk/crawl home.
There are two parties and I like neither. That is why I go with a third party. I now have a Huwaei. I am utterly not brand loyal and have owned Acer, Samsung, Nokia and some I do not even remeber anymore. Luckily I live in a country where locking devices is forbidden by law, so I can buy any phone I desire and use that. I also switch providers at will. I do not have a running contract so no iddues there either.
However I understand why they are ding it. Because you are not really the customer. They do not sell to you. They sell to the phone companies and that is where they get the real money from. And if they are not against it, nothng will change.
And the opposite is true as well. Things that are not important will be forgotten. If need be, we re-invent them with the technology we have then.
e.g. we have no idea how the Egyptians build the pyrimids and yet we are able to build things that are much larger then that and not only some of them. A lot of them and we do it faster.
It is the idea that people have that 1) There is only one solution to a problem 2) There is only one person that can have an idea
Again with the pyramids: there are several ways that we think it could have been done. We just are not sure and one does not exclude the other. Several ideas already. 2) There are several places that have found out that the easiest way to make a hill is by starting with a sqare.
Another thing is that forgetting things will result in making new things, not just reusing the old things.
Imagine that we would be using the same building method as used for the pyramids, we would then still be using it. Instead we started to look for other solutions. If they were worse, we did not use them, if they were better, they made us forget the worse way.
Forgetting is a GOOD thing. See it as restarting instead of adapting the same code again and again. At a certain point starting all over is much better. Why? Because things will have changed. (I am aware that comparisons are not 100% interchangable.)
Is it interesting to know how the Vikings build the pyramids? Sure. Is it usefull for an archiitect building a new mall? Not really. And at this moment we have so much infor,ation that we can't even figure out what is drivel and what is usefull. And saving everything because of that is just hoarding.
Years ago I was watching a lot of TV at night. Asa there was only drivel, out of sheer boredom I watched TV news from Germany from 30 years ago. I speak German and live in Europe. What I was amazed about was that it was almost identical as the current news. Not so much the presentation, but the stories. The only thing that had changed where the names and locations. Since then I have not followed any news channel. And I must say that I am less stressed.
Most people are unable or unwilling to attempt to remember the umpteen dozen unique passwords they would need on a daily basis
This makes me mad when IT people are blame shifting as this is like "you are holding your phone wrong" sort of excuse. Security must look at the weakest link and see how they can handle it, not blame the weakest link.
I am not unwilling, but simply unable to remember all my passwords. I have around 50 sites that I use on a regular places and that includes banks, stores, home, email, fun sites and what not.
I can not install a password tool. Tried it once, had a HW crash and then I was fucked. Luck would have it that I wanted to use it because of ease and I had not yet transferred all my passwords to it. I will not be using an online system, because I do not trust them. Not that they are not trustworthy, but because they will be broken into at one point or another. Just a matter of time. I also do not have the (legal) ability to install them on machines that do not belong to me.
So what I now have is basically layers of 6 passwords. 1) Home access. Highest level as this will have access to everything 2) Email services. These will be used for verification of other things, except what I do at home. I use only 2. 3) Banks. Separate from Email. Confirmation goes to email. 4) Stores. Places I buy things from on a regular basis. I have a list of these 5) All the rest. 6) Work. These must be changed each month and because of that they are the weakest. Also some systems accept only 8 characters, so I use that for everything.
I also use separate emails for every store in 2-4. e.g. Slashdot.org@example.com for this site and bank.tld@example.com for my bank. Easy to not only filter out to the correct folder and easy to detect fraude, but also nice to see who is selling your email address and stop doing business with them.
5 secure passwords and a weak one I can remember. More will not be reasonable. If one of the 1-4 is compromised, it is pretty easy to replace. If it is in 5, I might loose the ability to post cat pictures to Imgur and the like. If 6 is compromised, it is not my problem.
And passwords are not the only thing anymore. Pin codes are much more important now. They are shorter and they will be linked to my bank and are on my phone. So having something there is much bigger issue. Just watch in the queue at Starbucks and you see people typing their password and you can easily see what it is most of the time.
Do understand that not lying is not the same as telling the truth. I can not give you essential information and that would lead you to buy a product that does not do what you expect it to do.
I could sell you software on a CD, but not tell you you need to buy a separate key to unlock it for 500 more. I did not lie.
People with power and everybody else are like children. If your kid steals a cookie and you don't do anything, he will keep stealing cookies. He then will not steal them, but just take them. First you ask, then you beg and then you yell. He will still take the cookies. Put that kid on a timeout once and 99% of the kids will stop stealing cookies. The other 1% needs to be learned in other ways. But what will happen is if you put these together, the 99% will be an influence of the 1% and prevent the 1% of stealing the cookie.
What have these kids learned? They have learned that there will be consequences. To be fair, sometimes the consequences are worth it. I would gladly stand in timeout for a GREAT cookie.
However never getting a reprimand is the cause of the problem of escalated cookie stealing.
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Has nothing to do ith Mericans. It happens everywhere.It is just that they speak better English (I know) than they do French, German, Spanish or any other language.
I thought the real ones are much worse. Fake ones only take savings, The real ones take your income.
I live in Belgium.
To detect this I use an email alias for every company I deal with. e.g. slashdot.org@example.com. That way if they sell the data, I will know and I know where to go to to send a complaint.
Over a +10 year period this has only been the case with ebay, so no more business with them.
For all the others I never had an issue. The companies I worked for where all very aware of the privacy laws and people will get training in it. People I had contact with about privacy laws where in all parts of the company, be it sales, marketing, legal; accounting, IT; customer support or whomever. Customers are also pretty well aware of this.
It goes so far that in some situations if you call for info about your spouces account, companies are not allowed to give information.
Although it makes work a bit harder, I am happy it is there and I would not mind if things where even a bit stricter.
I am talking 15 seconds for the whole transaction. That means taking out my wallet, taking the card, putting it in the slot, waiting for the beep, entering the code+ENTER, wait for the OK, take out my card, get the receipt, put the receipt and the card in my wallet and pit away my wallet, so I can pick up my stuff.
So with you the swipe will take 1 second, the entering, waiting, pin and taking is about 4-5 seconds. So still slower, but not ny an amount that should bother anybody.
I also have seen cards with borked magnetic strips, so there is that.
So again: the real issue is that you did not adapt the PIN way.
I hope they do as much diversity as they did with Ghostbusters, because that worked out great.
It is. Please update your Newspeak book.
Freedom is Slavery
War is Peace
Bribe is Contribution
Oh, and don't forget to vote for what companies get more power in November.
It is a word play on Brave New World. Now give me my karma!
There are accounts that are directed to kids in Belgium as well. Parents will be responsible and they can not be overdrawn. They do come with a card, I think. Not really an issue as from 12 years on they will have to have a valid ID with them anyway.
Many parents are starting to use pre-paid cards as payment is done more and more cashless.
Is perhaps the easiest way to do it as well. You have a permanent order to transfer their allowance to their account. You can have details on how they are spending that money, if you so wish. You can also explain them abot saving accounts. They can transfer the money they saved to a different account that is only used for saving and can only be used to transfer money to a single account.
Remember that the banking system in Europe is pretty up to date and "with it". I'm not "with it" anymore, but the banks are.
Wireless payment, prepaid, payment by phone, online accounts and for those kids it is almost always free, because banks know that most people will stick with their bank till they die. So much cheaper than getting new customers. Hook them while they are young and later they will take the mortage with you.
Not so much solved as a serious hint. The reason you know this might be the direct result of my great aunt dying. When she died she was the oldest living person in the world and she gave her body to science. (She open sourced her body)
And the result was published : http://www.medicaldaily.com/bl...
https://www.newscientist.com/a...
http://www.the-scientist.com/?...
among other places you might find info on it.
I see going to the movies as I see eating out to a restaurant (Disclaimer, this does not include fast food) or going the a live performance.
The reason I do it is not because it is cheaper, because I can buy it cheaper. I do not do it because it is easy, because I can do it at home easier. The reason I do it is to experience something with friends. Going to a movie together and then talking about that is what I value.
I go to restaurants more than I go to the movies, especially because I like to share time with friends and during the movie you don't during 90 minutes.
Sure, I can order a pizza and have it delivered at home and we can eat it there. I rather go to an Italian pizzeria, order first a nice Cynar, order a starter, next a pizza, bottle of wine and end with a ristrotto and a good grappa and have a beer somewhere else to end the evening. So instead of paying 10EUR for a pizza I pay 50EUR to have an evening with a friend (time would be 07:00 till midnight or so) . Not everything is about money.
So the reason I go less to the cinema has nothing to do with the theaters. It is how I would want to spend my time and staring at a screen and say nothing I rather do alone. What would be interesting would be like they do Kareoke in Japan where you have private rooms. Rent a small room with friends to watch a movie. Add some food and what not and you can talk and they can cross sell. Because it isn't really about the price, it is about the whole experience.
I think I have choosen the wrong carrer path.
First I worked in a factory where I was replaced by a a robot. Next I woreked at a food chain, where I was replaced by the self-checkout. Next I became an Uber driver and I am getting replaced by self driving cars, so I have invested in becoming a professional gamer and now THIS?
Yeah, but the amount of water you need to that is INSANE.
Read here on /. tyhat it is because instead of just using only the standard check that dopes it all, they load in every check available. So basically it needs to the the same check 50 times.
The data is not that much different then what is send when you do a swipe. Even with the PIN there is not that much extra that is being send. And it does not matter that the I do a payment in Belgium or in Spain or anywhere else in the world. The speed is about the same.
I live in Belgium and I did a wireless payment in Spain. That basically means tapping the card on the reader and not entering your PIN and I could walk away in seconds. Adding the entering of the card and pressing the pin might add 10 seconds or so.
it is crazy that this worked with cards I had in Belgium from an American Bank and that people I know that have US cards with chip and use them in Belgium do not have the same problem here.
So the knowledge is available and has been used worldwide. The problem detection has been done a LOT already and beta testing has been concluded in the rest of the world for decades and the US is STILL able to fuck it up?
And yes, there are smaller towns in poorer countries that are more remote then where you live where it works better.
The only fail I agree with is that you do not use your PIN.
It takes about 15 seconds for the payment. Due to postings here, I have tested it and also looked at other people trying it out.
I have NEVER forgotten my card, ever. I put it in, type my PIN and take it out while I have my wallet in my other hand. Almost everybody does it like that. Why would you NOT take it out again.
Corroded card? I have been using these cards for I do not know how long. Never had that issue. It does happen that sometimes the card or the reader fails. However when you see how many million of transactions fail, this is an minute amount and the magnetic strip fails more than the chip percentage wise. It is just not used that much any more in Europe.
It was not intended for online purchase security. You could even claim that it does not help open a beer and even if true, it is not relevant.
So I agree with the PIN part, the rest are apparently issue that have to do with the Imperial system as the rest of the world does not have an issue with it and many have moved on to even more modern things, like wireless payments for smaller amounts.
So yes, we get it: people do not like change. It happened when people where forced to go from Win3.1 to Win95. It happens all the time when things change. I know people moaned when HD was deemed stoopid for TV. It is happening now allover again. People do not like change.
There is also a reason that many banks in Europe block the cards for the USofA and you have to ask them to activate it. If that is the case, how bad is the issue in the US you think? Or do you think that walking around the city and throwing in windows is good for the economy, because the window makers are making more money?
From what I have seen, they do have eyes and spatial awareness. If they don't, they should either not be driverless.
Because if they don't, they should be on tracks and be called a train or a monorail. And even those will have some avoidance system.
I am sure that in many cases a machine will be able to see a branch on powerlines better than a human can. They are able to read several hundred licence places in a second. I can't do that.
Zoning will not work already alone because condistions change all the time. Cyclist running red lights, people double and tripple parking. Is that person crossing the road, or just walking 3 steps because he wants to avaid hitting the hotdog stand and rather walks behint it than wait 2 seconds?
And as for driving in India? I would say that is the easy part. They just remove 90% of the security restrictions they have and they are still three times as safe as any human driver or donkey on the road.
No it isn't the goal. The goal is to either sell self driving cars or own the (at least a large part) of whatever drives around.
They are in it for the money, not for anything else. Having less dead people is a nice marketing bonus, but that is not the goal.
They also always say that it will reduce the number of cars and that might be true IF a lot of people switch over of not owning a car, but rather like renting it when you need it, because that way they make more money.
And less cars does not mean less miles driven. Asuming people will drive the same amount, a number of cars will be driven empty, because the car is needed at place B, but the last person left the car at place A. So more miles in total with less cars and a lot less parking.
And for those who do own the car, it will be more miles as well. Drive the kids to school, drie back empty, drive to the store and back, empty to the school and back with the kids.
So back frm school and back to school is empty, so more miles.
The ONLY reason they actually want lowering the death si because then it will be easier to change the laws in their favour and sell more cars or more time in the cars.
Remember when we used to actually own our hardware? When we owned our software? Owning your car will be a memory as well and that will not mean it will be better.
Disclaimer: I do not own a car and use car-sharing. I am also an exception of where I live and work and that the company I work for pays my commute to work, which is shorter in time by public transport than by car anyway.
I just rent a car for 1.5 hours per week to do all mu shopping and 3 times per yar if I am the designated driver and we go and eat somewhere with friends that we can't walk/crawl home.
There are two parties and I like neither. That is why I go with a third party. I now have a Huwaei. I am utterly not brand loyal and have owned Acer, Samsung, Nokia and some I do not even remeber anymore.
Luckily I live in a country where locking devices is forbidden by law, so I can buy any phone I desire and use that. I also switch providers at will. I do not have a running contract so no iddues there either.
However I understand why they are ding it. Because you are not really the customer. They do not sell to you. They sell to the phone companies and that is where they get the real money from. And if they are not against it, nothng will change.
And the opposite is true as well. Things that are not important will be forgotten. If need be, we re-invent them with the technology we have then.
e.g. we have no idea how the Egyptians build the pyrimids and yet we are able to build things that are much larger then that and not only some of them. A lot of them and we do it faster.
It is the idea that people have that
1) There is only one solution to a problem
2) There is only one person that can have an idea
Again with the pyramids: there are several ways that we think it could have been done. We just are not sure and one does not exclude the other. Several ideas already.
2) There are several places that have found out that the easiest way to make a hill is by starting with a sqare.
Another thing is that forgetting things will result in making new things, not just reusing the old things.
Imagine that we would be using the same building method as used for the pyramids, we would then still be using it. Instead we started to look for other solutions. If they were worse, we did not use them, if they were better, they made us forget the worse way.
Forgetting is a GOOD thing. See it as restarting instead of adapting the same code again and again. At a certain point starting all over is much better. Why? Because things will have changed. (I am aware that comparisons are not 100% interchangable.)
Is it interesting to know how the Vikings build the pyramids? Sure. Is it usefull for an archiitect building a new mall? Not really.
And at this moment we have so much infor,ation that we can't even figure out what is drivel and what is usefull. And saving everything because of that is just hoarding.
They did it on request of their customers, the companies. I mean, they paid for it and it would have been rude not to follow up on it.
The poor people already have a bunker. They are going to use the one they build for 2000. I am going to wait for 2038.
Years ago I was watching a lot of TV at night. Asa there was only drivel, out of sheer boredom I watched TV news from Germany from 30 years ago. I speak German and live in Europe.
What I was amazed about was that it was almost identical as the current news. Not so much the presentation, but the stories.
The only thing that had changed where the names and locations. Since then I have not followed any news channel. And I must say that I am less stressed.
This makes me mad when IT people are blame shifting as this is like "you are holding your phone wrong" sort of excuse. Security must look at the weakest link and see how they can handle it, not blame the weakest link.
I am not unwilling, but simply unable to remember all my passwords. I have around 50 sites that I use on a regular places and that includes banks, stores, home, email, fun sites and what not.
I can not install a password tool. Tried it once, had a HW crash and then I was fucked. Luck would have it that I wanted to use it because of ease and I had not yet transferred all my passwords to it. I will not be using an online system, because I do not trust them. Not that they are not trustworthy, but because they will be broken into at one point or another. Just a matter of time.
I also do not have the (legal) ability to install them on machines that do not belong to me.
So what I now have is basically layers of 6 passwords.
1) Home access. Highest level as this will have access to everything
2) Email services. These will be used for verification of other things, except what I do at home. I use only 2.
3) Banks. Separate from Email. Confirmation goes to email.
4) Stores. Places I buy things from on a regular basis. I have a list of these
5) All the rest.
6) Work. These must be changed each month and because of that they are the weakest. Also some systems accept only 8 characters, so I use that for everything.
I also use separate emails for every store in 2-4. e.g. Slashdot.org@example.com for this site and bank.tld@example.com for my bank. Easy to not only filter out to the correct folder and easy to detect fraude, but also nice to see who is selling your email address and stop doing business with them.
5 secure passwords and a weak one I can remember. More will not be reasonable. If one of the 1-4 is compromised, it is pretty easy to replace. If it is in 5, I might loose the ability to post cat pictures to Imgur and the like. If 6 is compromised, it is not my problem.
And passwords are not the only thing anymore. Pin codes are much more important now. They are shorter and they will be linked to my bank and are on my phone. So having something there is much bigger issue. Just watch in the queue at Starbucks and you see people typing their password and you can easily see what it is most of the time.
Do understand that not lying is not the same as telling the truth. I can not give you essential information and that would lead you to buy a product that does not do what you expect it to do.
I could sell you software on a CD, but not tell you you need to buy a separate key to unlock it for 500 more. I did not lie.
People with power and everybody else are like children.
If your kid steals a cookie and you don't do anything, he will keep stealing cookies. He then will not steal them, but just take them. First you ask, then you beg and then you yell. He will still take the cookies.
Put that kid on a timeout once and 99% of the kids will stop stealing cookies. The other 1% needs to be learned in other ways. But what will happen is if you put these together, the 99% will be an influence of the 1% and prevent the 1% of stealing the cookie.
What have these kids learned? They have learned that there will be consequences. To be fair, sometimes the consequences are worth it. I would gladly stand in timeout for a GREAT cookie.
However never getting a reprimand is the cause of the problem of escalated cookie stealing.