Here again we are compareing pre-installed windows PCs with blank PCs that will be installed with Linux later on. What customers want is pre-installed PCs. Wether that is Windows or Linux is irrelevant to most of them.
Many people never play a game and just use their PC to surf and to email. I know that if my company had not decides on IE specific internal websites, we could run Linux on all desktops and that are several thousand machines.
Most people I know are fed up with Windows, but do not know how to get a pre-installed machine with something else. It is simply pre-installed against self installing.
Although SuSE (now openSUSE and SLES/SLED) was always available for free, Novell has taken it up a notch by making YaST GPL, opening the development and it goes beyond RedHat by giving you the tool to make your own openSUSE based distriobution with the tool Rembrand that removes branding.
If they do not think I am a criminal, why should they follow me?
The fact that you are not interested in your privacy does not mean that I am not interested in mine. The information is NOT out there for all to see and remember. An example of this.
Please pick a day that you were out. Any day that is longer ago then 1 month. A day where you saw more then 5 cars, Now tell me the numberplates, the time and the location of each and every car.
There is an extreme difference between a person seeing somthing and remembering and for a computer to register. And I am not even talking about cross referencing.
What I think is strange is that when you go to www.nokia.be and select for either french or dutch, you get to the english version. The same for nokia.de, where you would expect German information. Sweden is pointing to English as well. Even the Finish news item points to the English page.
nokia.es and nokia.fr do not have any information, althogh it might be that no phones in those countries are effected (unlikely, but possible).
Apparently the information is only available in Japanese and English. Although many people will be able to read that, many more won't be.
Only because both had loads of money. Were it a smaller company then Novell, it would have been a different story long ago altogether.
The fact that it took so long shows how bad the system actualy is. All other countries in the world where this case was tried, it took about 5 minutes and a cofee break to say "Either you give the evidence or shut up." After that the case was closed.
so SUSE takes a big share of the market, it's just ms windows box being swapped for a microsoft linux, or am I missing something with the ms-novell thing?
Yes, the fact that the MS-Novell deal was about SLES and interopreability, not about making RPM and DEB packages on a remote machine (because that is what the Build Service is in the end)
AMD doesn't care who owns linux, I guess they bet MS-Novell will sell lots of linux where everyone else failed
Sure AMD does not care. Perhaps they just use it, because for them processors are cheap and that is the cheapest way to get advertisement.
All packages are build on an olmost daily basis (e.g. for Factory, that resulted in the now out Beta 1 for openSUSE 10.3) and that needs a bit of power that Novell did not have.
Perhaps AMD will use it as a way to tell people: You want to switch to Linux? Well, we sponsor Novells Build Service, so we are the best choice.
It is strange to see that Linux is winning and everybody is scared of it. Why? Do you WANT it to be an OS for just geeks?
Think about it. The Libertarian candidate isn't going to win no matter what,
And that is what is wrong with your two-party system. How can you make people interested in politics if the coices they make and the people they vote for do not matter at all?
"You can vote if your left leg or your right leg is cut off." How about the vote where none of my legs are cut off?
With the wto party system, many people have no option to vote for things they believe in. This is about as bad as systems where there is only one part you can vote.
Fro all people alive at this very moment, this is not true. For all you know, in 10 minutes somebody invents something that can make us live forever. Even if only applicable to one person, the statement becomes false.
A spouce does not tolerate any competition. The contract you have is made under the false pretence that nothing ever will go wrong. Even LOOKING at the competition will be illegal. Then all the neat acts done and promised during the engagement will be gone after the wedding.
With a hooker, I can go to any competitor I like and if I desire, even at the same time. There is no binding contract or anything.
Spouces are about being locked in. Hookers are about choice. Which side does MS fall on?
Let's have a look at the problem from another angle: What if your computer had only Ubuntu, or BSD, or Solaris, or OS X on it and your friend recommended this great new 'Windows' product to you. How easily do you suppose the Windows XP installer would make it to get your computer dual booting?
That is a neat idea. The next time somebody says Windows is so much better, I give them my 486DX Toshiba portable running Debian and ask them to install this great Windows on it.
If they say it is too old, I will invite them and ask them to install Windows on my new PC. I even have a disk for them available/dev/hdd Obviously I must still be able to use hda-hdf with dualboot with Linux.
I only need some basic things that I expect to pay the same price for as a boxed Linux I buy. Things I now use and he needs to provide (can be any way he can get it. I am not picky) gimp, apache with php, mysql, firefox, leafnode (usenetserver), proxy server, mail server, firewall, bash or an answer to my 50+ bash scripts I have made, secure remote access from any PC in the world (I now use ssh) and obviously several repositories so I can install software easily without looking for it, like I do now.
Oh and he needs to get rid f the popups when I plug in a new USB device, like a camera or an MP3 player.
If thats where you want to be in 10-20 years time, then stick to what you are doing now
And you asume copanies look ahead 10-20 years. You can be lucky if they look ahead 3 years and then a switch to Linux comes out more expensive then sticking with Windows.
Uhm. All that MS has agreed with is to distribut SUSE Linux Enterprise Server vouchers. It does not actualy distributes Linux. It gives away a code that enables you to download for one year the updates for SLES.
I have such a code and if I desire to do so, I can give it to anybody else, without actualy giving out any OSS.
In the worst case MS is distributing Novell CDs. Furthermore it is a contract between Novell and MS, not between Novell and myself or MS and myself. Even without the agreement between the two, MS could try to enter code into the kernel, but then it would be GPLv2 (for now) right away.
The only thing I see is anti-MS behaviour, instead of pro-OSS behaviour.
So please let them put in as much patented and copyrighted material into the source, because that would mean it would be GPLed right away. MS won't do that, because they might be assholes they are not stupid.
As a matter of fact each and every person who put something in the kernel did so with their copright (Berne convention) and then put it iunder GPL. MS (just like any other individual or company) must do the same or it won't be accepted.
Why piracy? There is another way to show you do not agree with their pricing without breaking the law. Just do not buy their products and do not use the pirated version either.
You do not like brand X doing business in ways you dislike? Do not use those products. Do not like the *AA? Don't listen to their music. Do not like the sportsbrand having sweatshops? Don't wear their clothes. Don't like the pricing of software? Don't use it.
Think to yourself what you would think software is worth to you, download any open Linux distribution you desire and then donate the money you thought it was worth to you to any open source project accepting money.
THAT would bring the price down to what YOU think it is worth RIGHT NOW.
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Here again we are compareing pre-installed windows PCs with blank PCs that will be installed with Linux later on. What customers want is pre-installed PCs. Wether that is Windows or Linux is irrelevant to most of them.
Many people never play a game and just use their PC to surf and to email. I know that if my company had not decides on IE specific internal websites, we could run Linux on all desktops and that are several thousand machines.
Most people I know are fed up with Windows, but do not know how to get a pre-installed machine with something else. It is simply pre-installed against self installing.
http://en.opensuse.org/Novell_Supported_Projects
Shows a bit more then the few you stated.
Although SuSE (now openSUSE and SLES/SLED) was always available for free, Novell has taken it up a notch by making YaST GPL, opening the development and it goes beyond RedHat by giving you the tool to make your own openSUSE based distriobution with the tool Rembrand that removes branding.
So you could have your own SUSES-CentOS.
That is why I use `rm directory -rf` instead of `rm -rf directory`. It saved me a few times already.
Another way is BlockHosts and an explanation can be found on this page
No more then 4 password attempts per host and then playtime is over. For me a minute is even too much time.
e.g. people can now mod me down as troll or off topic, but I can not do the same to the above.
If they do not think I am a criminal, why should they follow me?
The fact that you are not interested in your privacy does not mean that I am not interested in mine. The information is NOT out there for all to see and remember. An example of this.
Please pick a day that you were out. Any day that is longer ago then 1 month. A day where you saw more then 5 cars, Now tell me the numberplates, the time and the location of each and every car.
There is an extreme difference between a person seeing somthing and remembering and for a computer to register. And I am not even talking about cross referencing.
What I think is strange is that when you go to www.nokia.be and select for either french or dutch, you get to the english version. The same for nokia.de, where you would expect German information. Sweden is pointing to English as well.
Even the Finish news item points to the English page.
nokia.es and nokia.fr do not have any information, althogh it might be that no phones in those countries are effected (unlikely, but possible).
Apparently the information is only available in Japanese and English. Although many people will be able to read that, many more won't be.
But it sure is interesting for Homeland Security
If it happend with Carrier Pigeons, I am sure with RFC 1149 they will link it to the Internet and use it as a proove to have more control over data.
Only because both had loads of money. Were it a smaller company then Novell, it would have been a different story long ago altogether.
The fact that it took so long shows how bad the system actualy is. All other countries in the world where this case was tried, it took about 5 minutes and a cofee break to say "Either you give the evidence or shut up." After that the case was closed.
The part that I find interesting is that you think that weather and climate are the same thing.
Yes, the fact that the MS-Novell deal was about SLES and interopreability, not about making RPM and DEB packages on a remote machine (because that is what the Build Service is in the end)
Sure AMD does not care. Perhaps they just use it, because for them processors are cheap and that is the cheapest way to get advertisement.
All packages are build on an olmost daily basis (e.g. for Factory, that resulted in the now out Beta 1 for openSUSE 10.3) and that needs a bit of power that Novell did not have.
Perhaps AMD will use it as a way to tell people: You want to switch to Linux? Well, we sponsor Novells Build Service, so we are the best choice.
It is strange to see that Linux is winning and everybody is scared of it. Why? Do you WANT it to be an OS for just geeks?
And that is what is wrong with your two-party system. How can you make people interested in politics if the coices they make and the people they vote for do not matter at all?
"You can vote if your left leg or your right leg is cut off." How about the vote where none of my legs are cut off?
With the wto party system, many people have no option to vote for things they believe in. This is about as bad as systems where there is only one part you can vote.
Fro all people alive at this very moment, this is not true. For all you know, in 10 minutes somebody invents something that can make us live forever. Even if only applicable to one person, the statement becomes false.
Highly unlikely, I agree.
A spouce does not tolerate any competition. The contract you have is made under the false pretence that nothing ever will go wrong. Even LOOKING at the competition will be illegal.
Then all the neat acts done and promised during the engagement will be gone after the wedding.
With a hooker, I can go to any competitor I like and if I desire, even at the same time. There is no binding contract or anything.
Spouces are about being locked in. Hookers are about choice. Which side does MS fall on?
... the governement watches you.
Hollywood must be so happy. They now can re-use their old scripts and just replace KGB by Homeland Security,
That is a neat idea. The next time somebody says Windows is so much better, I give them my 486DX Toshiba portable running Debian and ask them to install this great Windows on it.
If they say it is too old, I will invite them and ask them to install Windows on my new PC. I even have a disk for them available
I only need some basic things that I expect to pay the same price for as a boxed Linux I buy. Things I now use and he needs to provide (can be any way he can get it. I am not picky) gimp, apache with php, mysql, firefox, leafnode (usenetserver), proxy server, mail server, firewall, bash or an answer to my 50+ bash scripts I have made, secure remote access from any PC in the world (I now use ssh) and obviously several repositories so I can install software easily without looking for it, like I do now.
Oh and he needs to get rid f the popups when I plug in a new USB device, like a camera or an MP3 player.
I hope you say the same to people here who help Linux and other OSS projects.
And you asume copanies look ahead 10-20 years. You can be lucky if they look ahead 3 years and then a switch to Linux comes out more expensive then sticking with Windows.
to a social problem. I see no way of this failing. :-/
In Belgium court told basicaly that they won't go after individuals, unless they were making money from it. Instead they go now after the ISPs.
Uhm. All that MS has agreed with is to distribut SUSE Linux Enterprise Server vouchers. It does not actualy distributes Linux. It gives away a code that enables you to download for one year the updates for SLES.
I have such a code and if I desire to do so, I can give it to anybody else, without actualy giving out any OSS.
In the worst case MS is distributing Novell CDs. Furthermore it is a contract between Novell and MS, not between Novell and myself or MS and myself. Even without the agreement between the two, MS could try to enter code into the kernel, but then it would be GPLv2 (for now) right away.
The only thing I see is anti-MS behaviour, instead of pro-OSS behaviour.
So please let them put in as much patented and copyrighted material into the source, because that would mean it would be GPLed right away. MS won't do that, because they might be assholes they are not stupid.
As a matter of fact each and every person who put something in the kernel did so with their copright (Berne convention) and then put it iunder GPL. MS (just like any other individual or company) must do the same or it won't be accepted.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Voting by hand is not broke, so why fx it?
The ONLY reason to fix it, is so it can be 'fixed' or so we can watch the outcome on the evening news, instead of two days later.
Why piracy? There is another way to show you do not agree with their pricing without breaking the law. Just do not buy their products and do not use the pirated version either.
You do not like brand X doing business in ways you dislike? Do not use those products. Do not like the *AA? Don't listen to their music. Do not like the sportsbrand having sweatshops? Don't wear their clothes. Don't like the pricing of software? Don't use it.
Think to yourself what you would think software is worth to you, download any open Linux distribution you desire and then donate the money you thought it was worth to you to any open source project accepting money.
THAT would bring the price down to what YOU think it is worth RIGHT NOW.
127.0.0.1 is so last century. I use http://hackme.houghi.org/ with a much lesser obvious IP adress.