Once upon a time, Sun got an injection against Microsoft for their Java implementation. They forced MS to recall all products that had had Java in the box costing Microsoft in excess of US $1 Billion. Do you know why? Because Microsoft's Java implementation didn't pass Sun's test. Never mind that MS didn't have access to the test nor that Netscape failed the test on more counts. Can you blame MS for staying out of the way of a litigation-happy competitor? If you want Java, download it. Download Sun's implementation...it'll make you feel better, even if it isn't as fast.:-)
"Scheme is a simple, yet powerful, programming language. As a member of the Lisp family of languages, it is dynamically-typed and mostly functional. Since it is much smaller than Lisp, it can also be used as an embedded language, a scripting language or an extension language. The Hotdog Scheme compiler currently compiles most of the Scheme language. It has been extended to support development within the.NET framework, allowing integration of Scheme and other languages targeting the runtime (Visual Basic, C++, C#, etc.).
.NET provides a set of libraries that can be used by all languages.
.NET allows anyone to write code that can be used by anyone else. You could create components in LISP that any one else using.NET could easily use, inherit from, etc.
.NET provides a core set of types that are shared by all languages to allow seamless integration.
I'm a little scared of the flame I'll get for bringing up.NET, but take a look at the site. It's some interesting stuff.
Says who? Substantiate your clain, please..NET is exposing data programadically as XML over the web. Every standard that.NET uses, from HTTP, XML, SOAP, UDDI, ect. is supported by several other companies and in most if not all cases at least one standards body.
IBM is spending $1 billion on Linux and even they are in bed with MS on their Internet service vision.
Companies live to make money. They want to maximize the channels through which they can make money.
Can we blame corporate America for pushing the DMCA? Hell no.
Should we be afraid of corporate power and try to stop it? Hell yes.
The term 'soft money' comes to mind. Get a hold of your people in Washington. I like big business, but I like 'government for the people' not 'for those with deep pockets'.
how often do you give your credit card to a waiter and let him walk in the back with it?
There are ways to protect personal info. Are they perfect? Hell no. Will they get better? Hell yes. Do I want to go back to cash and never buy things online? Hell no.
We trust people with our personal info EVERYDAY. Is the idea of someone stealing it all scary. Yes. Is the idea of being in a car crash scary. Yes! Doesn't mean I won't drive to work in the morning...just make sure to look both ways until you pull into traffic.
I don't know about Microsoft owning all of my info, but I want this kind of service.
I want to walk into a new town and go to a chiropractor, dentist, doctor, etc. and have my medical records handy. I want to have my calendar and contacts and alerts online.
I want to have a running list of every receipt of every purchase saved so I can go through and make a budget and get reimbursed for my job. Maybe we need to come up with another 3rd party, I don't know.
Seriously, do you think MS is going to go snooping? Do you think they'll do anything with your data without an explicit 'OK'?
Not only would they be opening themselves up to MAJOR lawsuits, but they would loose any and all traction with HailStorm and their whole 'Software as a service' model.
MS has to be VERY careful. They are putting too much at stake. They know this. Believe me, they know this better than you or I.
So you have a new OS out that you want everyone to run. Would you want a benchmark coming out that says your old stuff is better. I'd like to point out that this article talks about SQL7. SQL 2000 runs MUCH better on Win2k than it does on NT4.
SQL7 was written to take advantage of NT4, not Win2k. I can't say that the test results OR Microsoft's actions suprise me much.
Microsoft was pretty much painted in a corner by Sun. Microsoft doesn't want to invest its time in a platform defined by a commpetitor any more than Sun wants to be directed by MS technology.
If you want to think of C# and.NET as MS-Java. That's fine. Write some code in it (those that are using Windows). I've written the same programs in Java and C# and I can say with just a few hundred lines of C# under my belt, that C# is definately an upgrade.
You might be able to say fairly that.NET provides all of the benefits of Java for the Windows platform. Along with multipule language support.
Don't take this feature so seriously. If you are working on one application, Microsoft and anyone else with half-a-brain would want you to use one langauge. It does negate the fact that being able to use components written in other languages and being able to produce compontents that can be used by other languages provides developers a great deal of flexibility.
Look into the benifits of.NET without the Java comparison. So it might be a shameless copy: good artists copy; great artists steal.
I think.NET can stand on its own feet.
Currently, you can't produce porn that even claims to have people younger than 18. (You can't take young looking 18-year-olds and say they are younger.)
I think the same should apply to the virtual. Sex acts should not be depicted involving individuals younger than 18. Period.
I'm all for free speech and I understand the touchy nature of this subject, but I think the goal of protecting kids is justified. This is minimal infringement on free speech.
Can you help me come up with opinions/facts/experiences why exchange sucks as an enterprise e-mail solution versus a nice solid Unix solution to present to management
It sounds like you've already made your decision. Exchange 2000 is a really stable, powerful platform. However, I'm sure you'll find plenty of FUD to the contrary if you ask enough slashdotters. I've worked on networks for large school districts and businesses and I have nothing but kudos for Exchange 2000.
This is a Sun marketing document meant to spread FUD about dot-NET. Nothing more. Do you think they would point out any glaring benefits to dot-NET? Do you think they would point out where dot-NET is better than Java? Hell no. They are covering their ass just like Microsoft did when Sun came out with a language and framework.
And you know what? That's okay. As consumers of media, we all need to be able to separate the business-driven hype from the objective news. This is very important when we reference the web site of a company with vested interests.
Slashdot Mirror
Once upon a time, Sun got an injection against Microsoft for their Java implementation. They forced MS to recall all products that had had Java in the box costing Microsoft in excess of US $1 Billion. Do you know why? Because Microsoft's Java implementation didn't pass Sun's test. Never mind that MS didn't have access to the test nor that Netscape failed the test on more counts. Can you blame MS for staying out of the way of a litigation-happy competitor? If you want Java, download it. Download Sun's implementation...it'll make you feel better, even if it isn't as fast. :-)
How is MS making this choice for us?
Develop software and keep the license: fine.
Open source your software: fine.
Please tell me how MS is choosing how you define the license for your software.
The only thing as prevalent as stupidity in this world is unsubstantiated MS flame, I wonder why.
"Scheme is a simple, yet powerful, programming language. As a member of the Lisp family of languages, it is dynamically-typed and mostly functional. Since it is much smaller than Lisp, it can also be used as an embedded language, a scripting language or an extension language. The Hotdog Scheme compiler currently compiles most of the Scheme language. It has been extended to support development within the .NET framework, allowing integration of Scheme and other languages targeting the runtime (Visual Basic, C++, C#, etc.).
I'm a little scared of the flame I'll get for bringing up .NET, but take a look at the site. It's some interesting stuff.
Says who? Substantiate your clain, please. .NET is exposing data programadically as XML over the web. Every standard that .NET uses, from HTTP, XML, SOAP, UDDI, ect. is supported by several other companies and in most if not all cases at least one standards body.
IBM is spending $1 billion on Linux and even they are in bed with MS on their Internet service vision.
Companies live to make money. They want to maximize the channels through which they can make money.
:-)
Can we blame corporate America for pushing the DMCA? Hell no.
Should we be afraid of corporate power and try to stop it? Hell yes.
The term 'soft money' comes to mind. Get a hold of your people in Washington. I like big business, but I like 'government for the people' not 'for those with deep pockets'.
Rant is now over.
how often do you give your credit card to a waiter and let him walk in the back with it?
There are ways to protect personal info. Are they perfect? Hell no. Will they get better? Hell yes. Do I want to go back to cash and never buy things online? Hell no.
We trust people with our personal info EVERYDAY. Is the idea of someone stealing it all scary. Yes. Is the idea of being in a car crash scary. Yes! Doesn't mean I won't drive to work in the morning...just make sure to look both ways until you pull into traffic.
I don't know about Microsoft owning all of my info, but I want this kind of service.
I want to walk into a new town and go to a chiropractor, dentist, doctor, etc. and have my medical records handy. I want to have my calendar and contacts and alerts online.
I want to have a running list of every receipt of every purchase saved so I can go through and make a budget and get reimbursed for my job. Maybe we need to come up with another 3rd party, I don't know.
Seriously, do you think MS is going to go snooping? Do you think they'll do anything with your data without an explicit 'OK'?
Not only would they be opening themselves up to MAJOR lawsuits, but they would loose any and all traction with HailStorm and their whole 'Software as a service' model.
MS has to be VERY careful. They are putting too much at stake. They know this. Believe me, they know this better than you or I.
...oh yeah, but they're evil...blah blah blah...
So you have a new OS out that you want everyone to run. Would you want a benchmark coming out that says your old stuff is better. I'd like to point out that this article talks about SQL7. SQL 2000 runs MUCH better on Win2k than it does on NT4.
SQL7 was written to take advantage of NT4, not Win2k. I can't say that the test results OR Microsoft's actions suprise me much.
Microsoft was pretty much painted in a corner by Sun. Microsoft doesn't want to invest its time in a platform defined by a commpetitor any more than Sun wants to be directed by MS technology.
.NET as MS-Java. That's fine. Write some code in it (those that are using Windows). I've written the same programs in Java and C# and I can say with just a few hundred lines of C# under my belt, that C# is definately an upgrade.
.NET provides all of the benefits of Java for the Windows platform. Along with multipule language support.
.NET without the Java comparison. So it might be a shameless copy: good artists copy; great artists steal.
I think .NET can stand on its own feet.
If you want to think of C# and
Read the Comparitive overview of C# for a fairly objective comparison between C# and Java/C++.
You might be able to say fairly that
Don't take this feature so seriously. If you are working on one application, Microsoft and anyone else with half-a-brain would want you to use one langauge. It does negate the fact that being able to use components written in other languages and being able to produce compontents that can be used by other languages provides developers a great deal of flexibility. Look into the benifits of
Monkey...on a horse...saying Wasssup!
Currently, you can't produce porn that even claims to have people younger than 18. (You can't take young looking 18-year-olds and say they are younger.)
I think the same should apply to the virtual. Sex acts should not be depicted involving individuals younger than 18. Period.
I'm all for free speech and I understand the touchy nature of this subject, but I think the goal of protecting kids is justified. This is minimal infringement on free speech.
Can you help me come up with opinions/facts/experiences why exchange sucks as an enterprise e-mail solution versus a nice solid Unix solution to present to management
It sounds like you've already made your decision. Exchange 2000 is a really stable, powerful platform. However, I'm sure you'll find plenty of FUD to the contrary if you ask enough slashdotters. I've worked on networks for large school districts and businesses and I have nothing but kudos for Exchange 2000.
This is a Sun marketing document meant to spread FUD about dot-NET. Nothing more. Do you think they would point out any glaring benefits to dot-NET? Do you think they would point out where dot-NET is better than Java? Hell no. They are covering their ass just like Microsoft did when Sun came out with a language and framework.
And you know what? That's okay. As consumers of media, we all need to be able to separate the business-driven hype from the objective news. This is very important when we reference the web site of a company with vested interests.
Every once in a while you get an educated, flameless post on this site. Thank you!
That was a breath of frest air to a site that, as of late, has had a very low signal to noise ratio.