"I have yet to be cited a single good example here - very often what is being done would work just fine in HTML, with less overhead, but the 'designers' just do not understand HTML, or have any desire to learn it, so they do things this way instead."
Over the years, I've done a lot of work with games and simulations for training. Often times, these training simulations must coexist with existing talent management infrastructure. This means a JavaScript API for communicating performance data to the host platform. I will concede that this could be handled in other ways, but they would most certainly be clunkier, slower, and more prone to error. But what about the simulations themselves? In one example, we built an electrostatic puzzle game in which students had to charge robot parts using charge sharing, conduction, induction, and the triboelectric effect in order to obtain target values. Each manipulation (e.g., sharing charge by physically connecting two charged objects with a wire) produced a change in state that was manifest in the underlying data model and on screen appearance. We could not have produced this educational game with just HTML.
While I understand some the sentiment expressed here, a lot of this nonsense. An HTML-only web is great for relatively static content, but not so great for anything much beyond that. Is it so difficult to grok why you might want content to change on the client? I don't think so. Is JavaScript used for nefarious purposes? Yes, all the time. Is there bad UX because of JavaScript? No doubt. It is, however, a useful tool in the hands of skilled designers and developers. I'm usually the one telling people to get off the lawn, but in this case, meh whatever.
If you are refusing projects to keep your day job, you are losing money on the long run. Even better you are able to command 100-400 per hour. I have seen "freelance" jobs in elance for sysadmin as "high" as you earn per hour in MacDonalds, and that is quite a joke.
There are many reasons to keep a particular job - money is but one. In a discussion about work - life balance, this seems to be a pretty important point.
I'll bite again. Google seems to be trying to manage the world's information. They are adding all these portal-like services, but each and every one is meant to capture and store data about people.... to create trend data.
This is not a bad thing in and of itself.
They may be using these data to do huge factor or cluster analyses to come up with what?
No. Yahoo is and always was a portal. Google is and always was about indexing, organizing, and serving information on a global scale. This is no different. It's just another way for them to tie together disparate sources of data, develop user profiles, and serve ads (etc) based on those profiles.
except that there would be no continuity between images. and very limited resolution. as an idea, very cool. in practice, not today. how much black space do you want to see today?
you didn't get that memo? i got mine from my gameboy advance running hurd. seriously though. the man has a single vision. let him do his thing and shut up already.
i think you said it. services. i can't imagine these people wouldn't strip it down to nothing. you're talking about money and lawsuits. the suits understand that.
although maybe someday i'll get a buffer overflow in my favor...
Mod me offtopic, but after reading these posts, I wonder why so many people feel the need to bash NASA. Basic research costs money. Sometimes it turns into nothing, other times it turns into the next big thing... as in the next big thing you wouldn't have thought about unless someone else made a leap of faith. NASA does that.
Thank you. I attended two Company "benefits" meetings today. People were bitching because they didn't think the 50% company match on 401k contributions was enough. They bitched because raises were mostly a cost of living adjustment. They snickered when bonuses were mentioned.
All I could think is how fscking naive can you be?
The SQL issue seems to resurface on a regular basis. Not nearly as often as Microsoft complaints, but still enough to be enough. SQL + your language of choice can do pretty much anything you want. Sure, we all want and expect new implementations, but please people, stop the mindless rants against things that DO work. SQL works. It could be better, but it does what it does AND it works.
You can't, but you did nonetheless. AOL provides a service, namely the distribution of free frisbees.
And IE creates work for us all. Something about "looking a gift horse in the mouth" applies here.
Am I the only person in the world who thinks the X-Prize teams aren't in it for the money?
Come on people. Some of this is basic reasearch, some is surfing for vc money, and some is just about doing it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think other teams will keep working because the prize doesn't really matter. What matters is building a vehicle to hit space. That, in and of itself, seems like a big reward. Then add in the space tourism bucks....
The X-Prize was a carrot, but not a particularly big one given the costs involved.
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"I have yet to be cited a single good example here - very often what is being done would work just fine in HTML, with less overhead, but the 'designers' just do not understand HTML, or have any desire to learn it, so they do things this way instead." Over the years, I've done a lot of work with games and simulations for training. Often times, these training simulations must coexist with existing talent management infrastructure. This means a JavaScript API for communicating performance data to the host platform. I will concede that this could be handled in other ways, but they would most certainly be clunkier, slower, and more prone to error. But what about the simulations themselves? In one example, we built an electrostatic puzzle game in which students had to charge robot parts using charge sharing, conduction, induction, and the triboelectric effect in order to obtain target values. Each manipulation (e.g., sharing charge by physically connecting two charged objects with a wire) produced a change in state that was manifest in the underlying data model and on screen appearance. We could not have produced this educational game with just HTML.
While I understand some the sentiment expressed here, a lot of this nonsense. An HTML-only web is great for relatively static content, but not so great for anything much beyond that. Is it so difficult to grok why you might want content to change on the client? I don't think so. Is JavaScript used for nefarious purposes? Yes, all the time. Is there bad UX because of JavaScript? No doubt. It is, however, a useful tool in the hands of skilled designers and developers. I'm usually the one telling people to get off the lawn, but in this case, meh whatever.
SSNs, like passwords, need to die. They are a relic that doesn't work anymore.
If you are refusing projects to keep your day job, you are losing money on the long run. Even better you are able to command 100-400 per hour. I have seen "freelance" jobs in elance for sysadmin as "high" as you earn per hour in MacDonalds, and that is quite a joke.
There are many reasons to keep a particular job - money is but one. In a discussion about work - life balance, this seems to be a pretty important point.
from the last Neal Stephenson trilogy.
Ummmm, how about this article: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/0 2/14/1326238/
I'll bite again. Google seems to be trying to manage the world's information. They are adding all these portal-like services, but each and every one is meant to capture and store data about people.... to create trend data.
This is not a bad thing in and of itself.
They may be using these data to do huge factor or cluster analyses to come up with what?
The WHAT is the product.
No. Yahoo is and always was a portal. Google is and always was about indexing, organizing, and serving information on a global scale. This is no different. It's just another way for them to tie together disparate sources of data, develop user profiles, and serve ads (etc) based on those profiles.
except that there would be no continuity between images. and very limited resolution. as an idea, very cool. in practice, not today. how much black space do you want to see today?
you didn't get that memo? i got mine from my gameboy advance running hurd. seriously though. the man has a single vision. let him do his thing and shut up already.
i think you said it. services. i can't imagine these people wouldn't strip it down to nothing. you're talking about money and lawsuits. the suits understand that. although maybe someday i'll get a buffer overflow in my favor...
Wait until you see 43. It undoes time and cleans dishes.
Mod me offtopic, but after reading these posts, I wonder why so many people feel the need to bash NASA. Basic research costs money. Sometimes it turns into nothing, other times it turns into the next big thing... as in the next big thing you wouldn't have thought about unless someone else made a leap of faith. NASA does that.
And by market we mean: a corporate-driven, government-sponsored ride through Dante's Inferno. The Matrix, err, the Market knows what is best for you.
I'll get off the soapbox now, but the "economics is evolution" metaphor is getting a little tired.
Thank you. I attended two Company "benefits" meetings today. People were bitching because they didn't think the 50% company match on 401k contributions was enough. They bitched because raises were mostly a cost of living adjustment. They snickered when bonuses were mentioned.
All I could think is how fscking naive can you be?
If you had one, you took it apart and put vasoline on the moving parts. Moving stickers seems pretty primitive.
I disagree. Coding under the influence will NOT get you arrested and sometimes the results are pretty funny.
The SQL issue seems to resurface on a regular basis. Not nearly as often as Microsoft complaints, but still enough to be enough. SQL + your language of choice can do pretty much anything you want. Sure, we all want and expect new implementations, but please people, stop the mindless rants against things that DO work. SQL works. It could be better, but it does what it does AND it works.
I went on this game show called Jerry Springer. Don't pick the thing behind door number two.
You can't, but you did nonetheless. AOL provides a service, namely the distribution of free frisbees.
And IE creates work for us all. Something about "looking a gift horse in the mouth" applies here.
Yeah, so when is lynx going support mouse gestures anway?
Am I the only person in the world who thinks the X-Prize teams aren't in it for the money? Come on people. Some of this is basic reasearch, some is surfing for vc money, and some is just about doing it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think other teams will keep working because the prize doesn't really matter. What matters is building a vehicle to hit space. That, in and of itself, seems like a big reward. Then add in the space tourism bucks.... The X-Prize was a carrot, but not a particularly big one given the costs involved.
Because different teams work on different schedules. This isn't a beauty pagent.
Sure it is. That's one of the reasons drugs get "cut"... so the dealer can get their fix and still make a little money.