This is cool, but I doubt many big players still use web crawlers to find e-mails. Not with plentiful sources of hacked databases and co-registation e-mails available. Servers cost money, time to setup, and man hours to make sure they're up. Pushing low quality e-mails wouldnt be worth it, since the response rate of spam has lowered so much over time. Too many of the e-mails were posted years ago(and since died), are honeypots, or unverifiable e-mails(large domains like yahoo.com do not support the method spammers use to verify the existance of e-mail addresses).
You sir, have no idea what you're talking about. They get paid by the sale for products, by the lead for mortgages, or a percantage for stocks. Go to bulkerforum.biz and look around.
IMHO, the new releases could be very good or very bad for Firefox. It all depends on if they fixed the common complaints about it. If it's not such a memory hog, and doesnt lock up after being open too long, I'd say it could solidify Firefox's user base. However, a lot of people I know are really fed up with that. I think that's it's largely an addiction to tabs that keeps them loyal. Since IE7, at least outwardly, emulates a lot of the positives of Firefox, they might convert back if these glitches arent fixed.
Not intentionally. People still use them as "FROM:" addresses w/ proxies or open relays. Back in the day they were victrims of these bastard ass programs called "Internal Mailers" that utilize thousands and thousands of botted accounts, and send out 250 or so mails each. This guy sounds like he wasnt near that sophisticated. That's why he got caught.
In a world where e-mail address are $10-$30 per million, the amount of people using your custom config would probably never be high enough for spammers to care. No Spammer bothers to adjust their software to best every menial anti-spam fix. Only the big ones.
I'm in the same boat as you in that I benefit from this kind of legislation.
However, it does not sound reasonable.
It sounds profitable. There is a difference.
hmm...while I share your general dislike for the people that would use this information in a less than responsible fashion, I feel the need to point out that Script Kiddies are probably not going to be toying with layered device drivers...their only draw would be code samples, and those are EVERYWHERE already. These people would probably be a bit more skilled.
Look towards the bottom of http://www.webstandards.org/act/acid2/ Note: some 827 people (rough estimate, contents may have settled during shipping) have written to point out that the CSS used in the test is invalid. This is deliberate, as a means of exposing the ability of user agents to handle invalid CSS properly.
Read through this topic. Half the posts are "This is terrible! I'll no longer install pirated versions of Windows!" Well, big deal. You aren't a customer now, why should they give two shits what you do.
Ah, sir. You are completely incorrect. Remember, a lot of what keeps their money flowing in is market dominance. An article(this one or another, I don't recall), said as much as 1/3 of all copies of Windows are pirated. It also said Windows had 90% market share. Without the pirated copies, the Windows market share is only at 60%. Suddenly, software vendors can write more for others...the strength MS had is gone. Pirated copies still give exposure to Windows, making it so that's all people are used to, and still provides dominance for MS standards(ActiveX,.doc,.etc). Pirated copies still help.
you'd think the million robot march would have had 1,048,576 robots, not 1,000,000
psh. By then we'll all have learned the hard drive manufacturers were right all along...
I'll sacrafice a little karma in hopes of giving this AC a boost.... Really, if ever there was an article to dupe, this would be it. Any chance of getting this up at peak? Mods? Anyone?
name of 'Gord'. 'This function is truly horrid,' he wrote. 'We try opening the device, then severely abuse the GEOMETRY->flags field to pass a file descriptor to biosdisk. Thank God nobody's looking at this comment, or my reputation would be ruined.'"
I believe there is a misquote in there. I coulda sworn he said his reputation would be "gored"..
This may sound like a joke, but it's not intended as such. Is it possible we could see this as the next form of date-rape drug? It seems like it would be much harder to tell if someone had injested it (they wouldn't pass out or be too tipsy)...this could be bad...
For some of the more innocent slashdotters out there, 420 is a reference to Marijuana. Take a look see if you're interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(drug_culture)...just clarifying.
From that, you can put a sniffer on the line and trace the communications to find the person running the botnet.
Yet I'm not hearing any stories about these botnets being broken by the cops. Why not?
Several reasons.
First off, a lot of the zombies are in countries different from the person controlling them, making it tricky to pass information, and get search warrants(for the sniffer). A lot of people use proxies, which also complicates things.
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This is cool, but I doubt many big players still use web crawlers to find e-mails. Not with plentiful sources of hacked databases and co-registation e-mails available. Servers cost money, time to setup, and man hours to make sure they're up. Pushing low quality e-mails wouldnt be worth it, since the response rate of spam has lowered so much over time. Too many of the e-mails were posted years ago(and since died), are honeypots, or unverifiable e-mails(large domains like yahoo.com do not support the method spammers use to verify the existance of e-mail addresses).
You sir, have no idea what you're talking about. They get paid by the sale for products, by the lead for mortgages, or a percantage for stocks. Go to bulkerforum.biz and look around.
IMHO, the new releases could be very good or very bad for Firefox. It all depends on if they fixed the common complaints about it. If it's not such a memory hog, and doesnt lock up after being open too long, I'd say it could solidify Firefox's user base. However, a lot of people I know are really fed up with that. I think that's it's largely an addiction to tabs that keeps them loyal. Since IE7, at least outwardly, emulates a lot of the positives of Firefox, they might convert back if these glitches arent fixed.
Not intentionally. People still use them as "FROM:" addresses w/ proxies or open relays. Back in the day they were victrims of these bastard ass programs called "Internal Mailers" that utilize thousands and thousands of botted accounts, and send out 250 or so mails each. This guy sounds like he wasnt near that sophisticated. That's why he got caught.
In a world where e-mail address are $10-$30 per million, the amount of people using your custom config would probably never be high enough for spammers to care. No Spammer bothers to adjust their software to best every menial anti-spam fix. Only the big ones.
Of course none of their other software is creating a profit...how often does anyone's BETA software turn a profit?! ;-)
I'm in the same boat as you in that I benefit from this kind of legislation.
However, it does not sound reasonable.
It sounds profitable.
There is a difference.
The Earth, like many of these scientists, is full of hot air! News at 6!
WHY bring the Viet Cong into this? WHAT GOOD WILL COME OF IT?! ...oh yeah...dupe...and yet...I don't mind...there's no news like good news...twice....
hmm...while I share your general dislike for the people that would use this information in a less than responsible fashion, I feel the need to point out that Script Kiddies are probably not going to be toying with layered device drivers...their only draw would be code samples, and those are EVERYWHERE already. These people would probably be a bit more skilled.
Because it would be horribly redundant?
Look towards the bottom of
http://www.webstandards.org/act/acid2/
Note: some 827 people (rough estimate, contents may have settled during shipping) have written to point out that the CSS used in the test is invalid. This is deliberate, as a means of exposing the ability of user agents to handle invalid CSS properly.
Read through this topic. Half the posts are "This is terrible! I'll no longer install pirated versions of Windows!" Well, big deal. You aren't a customer now, why should they give two shits what you do.
.doc, .etc).
Ah, sir. You are completely incorrect. Remember, a lot of what keeps their money flowing in is market dominance. An article(this one or another, I don't recall), said as much as 1/3 of all copies of Windows are pirated. It also said Windows had 90% market share. Without the pirated copies, the Windows market share is only at 60%. Suddenly, software vendors can write more for others...the strength MS had is gone. Pirated copies still give exposure to Windows, making it so that's all people are used to, and still provides dominance for MS standards(ActiveX,
Pirated copies still help.
...Reminding us that you don't necessarily have to be stupid to be more than a little crazy...
...I read this, and I swear, I half expected 'ol Roland to have submitted it...
I wasn't really familier with ICMP, so did a quick google. Found couple of good links
You must be new around here...we don't really even advocate reading the article, and absolutely forbid background research...
...lameness filter THAT!
I hope so...I'd really hate to have any trojans entering via my BackOrifice.
you'd think the million robot march would have had 1,048,576 robots, not 1,000,000
psh. By then we'll all have learned the hard drive manufacturers were right all along...
I'll sacrafice a little karma in hopes of giving this AC a boost....
Really, if ever there was an article to dupe, this would be it. Any chance of getting this up at peak? Mods? Anyone?
name of 'Gord'. 'This function is truly horrid,' he wrote. 'We try opening the device, then severely abuse the GEOMETRY->flags field to pass a file descriptor to biosdisk. Thank God nobody's looking at this comment, or my reputation would be ruined.'"
I believe there is a misquote in there. I coulda sworn he said his reputation would be "gored"..
*ducks*
...Counterstrike.
I've tried it. Absolutely impossible.
This may sound like a joke, but it's not intended as such. Is it possible we could see this as the next form of date-rape drug? It seems like it would be much harder to tell if someone had injested it (they wouldn't pass out or be too tipsy)...this could be bad...
For some of the more innocent slashdotters out there, 420 is a reference to Marijuana. Take a look see if you're interested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(drug_culture) ...just clarifying.
From that, you can put a sniffer on the line and trace the communications to find the person running the botnet.
Yet I'm not hearing any stories about these botnets being broken by the cops. Why not?
Several reasons.
First off, a lot of the zombies are in countries different from the person controlling them, making it tricky to pass information, and get search warrants(for the sniffer). A lot of people use proxies, which also complicates things.