Seems as though there is some varying behavior with this update - perhaps related to the time the WSUS servers synced with MS?
Our WSUS server (version 2.0, version 3 upgrade planned for Q1-2008) has Automatic detection only turned on for critical and security updates. All other auto approval options including revisions to updates have been turned off since early 2006. All 2.6.x versions of desktop search were declined when they were released in April 2006 and January 2007 since we do not want this software for various performance, privacy and security reasons. (our systems hold public and private records) We only approve updates on the second Friday of each month, so they can be deployed over the weekend and we catch patch Tuesday.
Yet despite these precautions, "Windows Desktop Search 3.0.1 for Windows XP (KB917013)" was downloaded with approval set to Install for all computers after the synchronization on 10/23/2007 at 3:03am. When I logged into my computer in the morning, I got the "Updates are ready..." message and thought "that's kinda weird....." then I drank some coffee and said "oh crap."
We are not the only ones seeing this behavior. Check the newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.server.update_services . No mention has been made on the MS WSUS team blog yet.
MS really shouldn't be using the auto-install trump card on an add-on like this. They should really be saving it for an update that prevents the spread of an exploit, worm, or virus that is quickly spreading. Anyone else remember Melissa?
To MS - dealing with this unwanted installation is costing us time and money - this tends to piss off the Finance guys who will then cut our budgets as being wasteful and then we'll have less to spend on the software you've locked our organization into...guess where that will go...
Win 3 supported every feature of the 386 processor.
Tell that to anyone who used AutoCad for windows on 3.11. Without manually installing the win32.sys file, it simply did not work because it needed a 32 bit OS. Even with win32.sys setup properly it was a crashing dog.
Then we used AutoCad on the same machines after upgrading them to Win95. Huge difference - every thing just started working and we stopped blaming AutoDesk for all our problems.
Simple reality is that even though Win 3.x had some support for 32 bit processes and file systems, it just didn't work well at all. 7 years ago, Win95 was a huge leap ahead.
If you've ever lived outside of a city you'll grasp the usefulness of high-speed Internet access being available in rural areas or townships regardless of the medium. My father lives on an acreage out side of the city and is always complaining about the terrible speed he gets with e-mail, never mind web browsing. He uses the Internet to keep in touch with a company he owns and track his various investments and is lucky if his modem connects at 28K!
I also know quite a few techies that have put off moving outside the city due to lack of broadband ISP options. This changes everything.
Having lived in Alberta for most of my life and having Internet access since the early '90s, I can say that our principle telco here, Telus, has already done an admirable job of getting ADSL (at 1.5mb down/512kb up) to many communities in the province. For instance, I live in the town of Canmore with a population of fewer than 10,000 people. We're about 60 miles from the nearest center (Calgary) and have one hospital. I have had ADSL installed into my home for about a year now and my cost is $39.95 per month.
Quite a few people in Alberta trash Telus because of their monopoly, big business vs. the little guy, etc. The truth is that Telus has laid fiber throughout the province since the '80s and now everyone is reaping the benefits of it.
If Apple wants to keep Rumours (I'm Canadian, that's the way we spell it here, deal with it) under wraps they should work on doing it in house, not in the public eye. Let's face it, there's really no way for them to come out of this looking like the good guy - even more so if they actually yank thier ads from these publications.
Another thing to keep in mind is that many of these publications' sole reason for existance is to report computer industry NEWS. Rumours are news. Trying to influence the reporting of any news by using advertising dollars is just plain wrong. I truly hope that the media can stand thier ground against Apple.
Looks like someone cracked into USB.org's member area and had some fun. USB's home page indicates that they're changing all members passwords as of today for "security reasons".
Still, it would be nice to think at least one server in the microsoft.com domain is running a Linux kernel and Apache. You can just close your eyes and imagine the MS techies standing around the screen looking for NT server manager.....
I installed RH 6.1 over the weekend by choosing the server option and Samba was installed as a standalone daemon. But this doesn't mean that that's how the test box was configured....
There's a lot of misconceptions about life in the Banff / Canmore area - mainly due to the media. For instance, my mortage for a nice home is less than I would be paying in a suburb of Toronto. Banff does have a highly transient population during the summer months, but "highest crime rate in Canada"? I think that's either Montreal or Edmonton if I remember my stats right. Anyway, this is one of the reasons I live in Canmore.
As for what I do, I am in charge of Information Technology at the Sulphur Mountain Gondola (http://www.banffgondola.com) and also assist in running the lift.
I live in Canmore, Alberta, Canada and work in Banff, which is a 15 minute drive away. For those of you not familar with the area, these are both resort cummunities of about 7,000 people each in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. I know that I could make more money living and working in a city, but at what cost? I'll keep my life here with small town values, skiing, snowboarding, mountain biking, hiking, rock climbing, and not having to have an alarm in my car! Besides, where else can a geek say he's got a million dollar view of nature out his office window? Oh, and BTW - I'm EXPECTED to wear hiking boots to work!
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...I've met people from Meaford.
Seems as though there is some varying behavior with this update - perhaps related to the time the WSUS servers synced with MS?
Our WSUS server (version 2.0, version 3 upgrade planned for Q1-2008) has Automatic detection only turned on for critical and security updates. All other auto approval options including revisions to updates have been turned off since early 2006. All 2.6.x versions of desktop search were declined when they were released in April 2006 and January 2007 since we do not want this software for various performance, privacy and security reasons. (our systems hold public and private records) We only approve updates on the second Friday of each month, so they can be deployed over the weekend and we catch patch Tuesday.
Yet despite these precautions, "Windows Desktop Search 3.0.1 for Windows XP (KB917013)" was downloaded with approval set to Install for all computers after the synchronization on 10/23/2007 at 3:03am. When I logged into my computer in the morning, I got the "Updates are ready..." message and thought "that's kinda weird....." then I drank some coffee and said "oh crap."
We are not the only ones seeing this behavior. Check the newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.server.update_services . No mention has been made on the MS WSUS team blog yet.
MS really shouldn't be using the auto-install trump card on an add-on like this. They should really be saving it for an update that prevents the spread of an exploit, worm, or virus that is quickly spreading. Anyone else remember Melissa?
To MS - dealing with this unwanted installation is costing us time and money - this tends to piss off the Finance guys who will then cut our budgets as being wasteful and then we'll have less to spend on the software you've locked our organization into...guess where that will go...
Allan W.
Win 3 supported every feature of the 386 processor.
Tell that to anyone who used AutoCad for windows on 3.11. Without manually installing the win32.sys file, it simply did not work because it needed a 32 bit OS. Even with win32.sys setup properly it was a crashing dog.
Then we used AutoCad on the same machines after upgrading them to Win95. Huge difference - every thing just started working and we stopped blaming AutoDesk for all our problems.
Simple reality is that even though Win 3.x had some support for 32 bit processes and file systems, it just didn't work well at all. 7 years ago, Win95 was a huge leap ahead.
Don't you mean August?
Starbuck smoked the cigars and got the girls.
If you've ever lived outside of a city you'll grasp the usefulness of high-speed Internet access being available in rural areas or townships regardless of the medium. My father lives on an acreage out side of the city and is always complaining about the terrible speed he gets with e-mail, never mind web browsing. He uses the Internet to keep in touch with a company he owns and track his various investments and is lucky if his modem connects at 28K!
I also know quite a few techies that have put off moving outside the city due to lack of broadband ISP options. This changes everything.
Having lived in Alberta for most of my life and having Internet access since the early '90s, I can say that our principle telco here, Telus, has already done an admirable job of getting ADSL (at 1.5mb down/512kb up) to many communities in the province. For instance, I live in the town of Canmore with a population of fewer than 10,000 people. We're about 60 miles from the nearest center (Calgary) and have one hospital. I have had ADSL installed into my home for about a year now and my cost is $39.95 per month.
Quite a few people in Alberta trash Telus because of their monopoly, big business vs. the little guy, etc. The truth is that Telus has laid fiber throughout the province since the '80s and now everyone is reaping the benefits of it.
If Apple wants to keep Rumours (I'm Canadian, that's the way we spell it here, deal with it) under wraps they should work on doing it in house, not in the public eye. Let's face it, there's really no way for them to come out of this looking like the good guy - even more so if they actually yank thier ads from these publications.
Another thing to keep in mind is that many of these publications' sole reason for existance is to report computer industry NEWS. Rumours are news. Trying to influence the reporting of any news by using advertising dollars is just plain wrong. I truly hope that the media can stand thier ground against Apple.
It was a reference to Anakin Skywalker. A Menace that no one could foresee....
I was also a Parsec addict. And Tombstone, too! I miss my old TI...
Looks like someone cracked into USB.org's member area and had some fun. USB's home page indicates that they're changing all members passwords as of today for "security reasons".
Still, it would be nice to think at least one server in the microsoft.com domain is running a Linux kernel and Apache. You can just close your eyes and imagine the MS techies standing around the screen looking for NT server manager.....
This is a realavant story because it represents another milestone the open source community has reached.
And besides, they started Slashdot from nothing and have made it into a respected forum for all things computerized. Way to go guys!
I installed RH 6.1 over the weekend by choosing the server option and Samba was installed as a standalone daemon. But this doesn't mean that that's how the test box was configured....
There's a lot of misconceptions about life in the Banff / Canmore area - mainly due to the media. For instance, my mortage for a nice home is less than I would be paying in a suburb of Toronto. Banff does have a highly transient population during the summer months, but "highest crime rate in Canada"? I think that's either Montreal or Edmonton if I remember my stats right. Anyway, this is one of the reasons I live in Canmore.
As for what I do, I am in charge of Information Technology at the Sulphur Mountain Gondola (http://www.banffgondola.com) and also assist in running the lift.
I live in Canmore, Alberta, Canada and work in Banff, which is a 15 minute drive away. For those of you not familar with the area, these are both resort cummunities of about 7,000 people each in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. I know that I could make more money living and working in a city, but at what cost? I'll keep my life here with small town values, skiing, snowboarding, mountain biking, hiking, rock climbing, and not having to have an alarm in my car!
Besides, where else can a geek say he's got a million dollar view of nature out his office window?
Oh, and BTW - I'm EXPECTED to wear hiking boots to work!
Dell has been doing this for about 6 or 8 months with thier Celeron based dimensions for home use. No ISA slots in these at all, just PCI.
Great idea! Can I fold it so it'll fit in my back pocket too? :-)