Did they complain to you that they were sick of DRM? Did they complaining that they wish they hadn't bought MS Office and long for a free suite of editing and publishing tools? Was IE failing to fill its role in their lives?... probably not.
You seem to have not dealt with the computer users I have. I can't tell you how many people whose computers I had to deal with that took 5-10 minutes or more to boot Windows, ran slow as molasses once they started, had pop-ups appear as fast as you could close them, etc... An amazing amount of these people solicited my help for reasons not included in the above list. They didn't ask me to fix those problems. They just assumed they were there to stay and couldn't be fixed. They didn't know any better. Many of them weren't really aware that a computer taking 10 minutes to boot was a problem, because they weren't familiar with anything else.
One of the things I do for just about everyone who might not already know better is to replace their IE with Firefox. So many people get so excited when I show them simple things like tabbed browsing. Did they cry a distressed cry for help for a geek in shining armor to save them from the deadly Internet Explorer? No, they did not. But are they happier after I do so anyway? The reactions I've gotten suggest: yes.
You seem to think that the author was forcing OSS down people's throats, and I don't think he was.
You seem to think that technological ignorance and laziness to learn something new is the better way to go by default, and I don't think it is.
I am replying, assuming you are referring to Contra for the NES.
In actuality, ending the code with "... B A select start" would indeed start the game with only one player. You had to enter the code while the title screen was still scrolling. By pressing select, it would immediately bring the title screen... onscreen, and then pressing start afterwards would actually start the game, with the default selection being 1 player. If you wanted to start a 2 player game, you'd have to press select twice -- once to bring the title screen onscreen, and once to change to 2-player mode.
I actually hardly ever pressed select. Pressing start twice would start a single player game with the code activated just fine. Select wasn't actually part of the code. As long as the "UUDDLRLRBA" was entered correctly, you could press either select or start.
I've exhausted my brain for ways to simplify this so you understand it, so I'll just repeat myself. Cedega has made me not have to use Windows anymore. I will not use Windows in the future. I will not buy Windows ports of games (not even with Cedega). I may, however, buy Linux ports of games if developers make Linux ports.
Cedega is making me no longer have to boot into windows. I will not use windows in the future. Consequently, I will not be buying windows games, especially without the knowledge that I can get them working under Linux, which is a pain and I'd rather not have to do it. You're thinking short-term, I'm thinking long-term.
As a result of cedega making me no longer have to boot into windows, I will no longer be a windows gamer in the future, only a linux gamer. Does that make sense?
You are one of a handful of people that apparently didn't get my initial post.
For the time being, yes, I am playing some Windows games in Linux. (I am also playing a lot of Linux games in Linux, even if you assume I'm not.) About 95% of time I'm gaming now, I'm in Linux, whether running native Linux games or not. Whether you agree with me or not as to whether that qualifies me as an almost-purely-Linux-gamer is not the point. The point is I'm hardly using Windows at all anymore. The fact that I can run current Windows games in Linux for the time being doesn't mean I'm always going to want to go through the effort to do so in the future. And the only reason I own the games I own already is because I knew they'd work with Windows when I used Windows. Now that I use Linux, if I don't know for sure that a game is going to work within Linux, why would I fork out the money for the game? Sure, it might be possible to get it working with Cedega, but why would I spend money and take the risk that it won't?
Understood. As far as RDP goes, it's quite simple to set a VNC server up attached to your already-running session. I am doing so with Ubuntu Dapper. I can't remember exactly how I did it, but it was simple enough that I could find out how with a couple google queries and 5 minutes. Try it. If you want 3d acceleration over VNC or RDP, though, I think you're out of luck. I don't think anything like that exists, because I don't think it's feasible. I could be wrong, though.
Thanks to Cedega/wine, I am now primarily a linux user and not a Windows user, which means I'm almost certainly not going to buy any future games unless I know they will work under linux. I imagine (and hope) a mass of other cases like mine will encourage companies to develop for linux.
> The problem isn't no games, it's that linux is a FUNCTIONAL operating system. It is meant for office use and for stable, spyware-free home connectivity.
That's exactly what the linux community is trying to change. I agree with you in that MacOS is for multimedia, Windows is for gaming, and Linux is currently for productivity and stability. Linux is also supposed to be versatile and customizable and progressive, and I think it's silly to dismiss the idea of gaming on Linux because "it's not meant for gaming".
Just out of pure curiosity, what games / apps do you depend on?
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Addressing those who say that "Cedega isn't encouraging gaming companies to develop games for Linux", as the article puts it.... you're somewhat right. It's not directly encouraging companies to make Linux games, but it is a step in the right direction.
I used to be constantly rebooting back and forth between Ubuntu and Windows XP as I switched between playing games (XP) and doing everything else (Ubuntu). Thanks to Cedega, I can now spend almost all of my time in Linux, as Cedega emulates nearly everything I want to play, and does so with minimal problems. I'm just about ready to give Windows a kick to the face and abandon it permanently. In my case, thanks to Cedega, there's now one more almost-purely-linux gamer and one less Windows gamer. Now that I game under linux instead of in Windows, companies do have more incentive to make linux ports of their games.
It'd be cool to know exactly what "simple questions" were asked and what their responses were. My definition of a "simple question" might differ from theirs. Even if they had asked/complex/ questions, that doesn't necessarily mean the answer was correct or even intelligible.
Researcher: Hi there, can you see me?
Patient: FFOOOOOOOOOMDE!
Sure, they interacted with the researcher and they answered a simple question. Their response could even arguably be considered a word, perhaps poorly pronounced, but...
I fear the article leads this discovery to sound more amazing than it actually might be.
I'm sure said technology has already been done before multiple times, if not by our government in secret studies, then by some crazy independent garage scientist that NSA was monitoring and threatened/apprehended before (s)he was able to go public.
"With more and more children owning mobile phones, special attention needs to be given to who can track them."
But all those people who are 16 and up, no worries. We can all invade their privacy and track where they are 24/7 it's no big deal, right?
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Did they complain to you that they were sick of DRM? Did they complaining that they wish they hadn't bought MS Office and long for a free suite of editing and publishing tools? Was IE failing to fill its role in their lives? ... probably not.
You seem to have not dealt with the computer users I have. I can't tell you how many people whose computers I had to deal with that took 5-10 minutes or more to boot Windows, ran slow as molasses once they started, had pop-ups appear as fast as you could close them, etc... An amazing amount of these people solicited my help for reasons not included in the above list. They didn't ask me to fix those problems. They just assumed they were there to stay and couldn't be fixed. They didn't know any better. Many of them weren't really aware that a computer taking 10 minutes to boot was a problem, because they weren't familiar with anything else.
One of the things I do for just about everyone who might not already know better is to replace their IE with Firefox. So many people get so excited when I show them simple things like tabbed browsing. Did they cry a distressed cry for help for a geek in shining armor to save them from the deadly Internet Explorer? No, they did not. But are they happier after I do so anyway? The reactions I've gotten suggest: yes.
You seem to think that the author was forcing OSS down people's throats, and I don't think he was.
You seem to think that technological ignorance and laziness to learn something new is the better way to go by default, and I don't think it is.
I am replying, assuming you are referring to Contra for the NES.
... onscreen, and then pressing start afterwards would actually start the game, with the default selection being 1 player. If you wanted to start a 2 player game, you'd have to press select twice -- once to bring the title screen onscreen, and once to change to 2-player mode.
In actuality, ending the code with "... B A select start" would indeed start the game with only one player. You had to enter the code while the title screen was still scrolling. By pressing select, it would immediately bring the title screen
I actually hardly ever pressed select. Pressing start twice would start a single player game with the code activated just fine. Select wasn't actually part of the code. As long as the "UUDDLRLRBA" was entered correctly, you could press either select or start.
Based on how well he seems to understand English, I imagine you could cheat all the way throguh a game of Scrabble against him and he'd never notice.
it has been like that since the GameGear times of the NES (or before).
To clarify for anyone else who was really confused for a few seconds: You meant Game Genie, right? GameGear was Sega's attempt at a handheld system.
Wow. I wasn't aware X even had a "blue screen". And as far as I know, Cedega doesn't mess with your X server anyway. Weird.
Just like you're not the only dick on slashdot, I'm not the only one who Cedega helped become a Linux user and get away from Windows.
I've exhausted my brain for ways to simplify this so you understand it, so I'll just repeat myself. Cedega has made me not have to use Windows anymore. I will not use Windows in the future. I will not buy Windows ports of games (not even with Cedega). I may, however, buy Linux ports of games if developers make Linux ports.
Indeed, this isn't rocket science.
How did Cedega mess up X altogether?...
I don't know why you're having so much trouble understanding this, it's an incredibly simple concept. I'll spell it out for you:
CEDEGA has made me a LINUX USER and although I play the games I already own now, I WILL NO LONGER BUY WINDOWS GAMES IN THE FUTURE.
Thanks, I'm glad someone gets what I was trying to say.
Cedega is making me no longer have to boot into windows. I will not use windows in the future. Consequently, I will not be buying windows games, especially without the knowledge that I can get them working under Linux, which is a pain and I'd rather not have to do it. You're thinking short-term, I'm thinking long-term.
As a result of cedega making me no longer have to boot into windows, I will no longer be a windows gamer in the future, only a linux gamer. Does that make sense?
You are one of a handful of people that apparently didn't get my initial post.
For the time being, yes, I am playing some Windows games in Linux. (I am also playing a lot of Linux games in Linux, even if you assume I'm not.) About 95% of time I'm gaming now, I'm in Linux, whether running native Linux games or not. Whether you agree with me or not as to whether that qualifies me as an almost-purely-Linux-gamer is not the point. The point is I'm hardly using Windows at all anymore. The fact that I can run current Windows games in Linux for the time being doesn't mean I'm always going to want to go through the effort to do so in the future. And the only reason I own the games I own already is because I knew they'd work with Windows when I used Windows. Now that I use Linux, if I don't know for sure that a game is going to work within Linux, why would I fork out the money for the game? Sure, it might be possible to get it working with Cedega, but why would I spend money and take the risk that it won't?
Incorrect. For more information, see this [slashdot.org] post.
yeah, you can do that with VNC, probably even at the same time.
Understood. As far as RDP goes, it's quite simple to set a VNC server up attached to your already-running session. I am doing so with Ubuntu Dapper. I can't remember exactly how I did it, but it was simple enough that I could find out how with a couple google queries and 5 minutes. Try it. If you want 3d acceleration over VNC or RDP, though, I think you're out of luck. I don't think anything like that exists, because I don't think it's feasible. I could be wrong, though.
> Now, if we could convince ATI and nVIDIA to release specs for their cards
At least Nvidia releases an official, stable driver...
I'm not sure you got my point, which was ...
Thanks to Cedega/wine, I am now primarily a linux user and not a Windows user, which means I'm almost certainly not going to buy any future games unless I know they will work under linux. I imagine (and hope) a mass of other cases like mine will encourage companies to develop for linux.
something about pirates and bays. and "the"
> The problem isn't no games, it's that linux is a FUNCTIONAL operating system. It is meant for office use and for stable, spyware-free home connectivity.
That's exactly what the linux community is trying to change. I agree with you in that MacOS is for multimedia, Windows is for gaming, and Linux is currently for productivity and stability. Linux is also supposed to be versatile and customizable and progressive, and I think it's silly to dismiss the idea of gaming on Linux because "it's not meant for gaming".
Just out of pure curiosity, what games / apps do you depend on?
Addressing those who say that "Cedega isn't encouraging gaming companies to develop games for Linux", as the article puts it.... you're somewhat right. It's not directly encouraging companies to make Linux games, but it is a step in the right direction.
I used to be constantly rebooting back and forth between Ubuntu and Windows XP as I switched between playing games (XP) and doing everything else (Ubuntu). Thanks to Cedega, I can now spend almost all of my time in Linux, as Cedega emulates nearly everything I want to play, and does so with minimal problems. I'm just about ready to give Windows a kick to the face and abandon it permanently. In my case, thanks to Cedega, there's now one more almost-purely-linux gamer and one less Windows gamer. Now that I game under linux instead of in Windows, companies do have more incentive to make linux ports of their games.
It'd be cool to know exactly what "simple questions" were asked and what their responses were. My definition of a "simple question" might differ from theirs. Even if they had asked /complex/ questions, that doesn't necessarily mean the answer was correct or even intelligible.
Researcher: Hi there, can you see me? Patient: FFOOOOOOOOOMDE!
Sure, they interacted with the researcher and they answered a simple question. Their response could even arguably be considered a word, perhaps poorly pronounced, but... I fear the article leads this discovery to sound more amazing than it actually might be.
I'm sure said technology has already been done before multiple times, if not by our government in secret studies, then by some crazy independent garage scientist that NSA was monitoring and threatened/apprehended before (s)he was able to go public.
"With more and more children owning mobile phones, special attention needs to be given to who can track them." But all those people who are 16 and up, no worries. We can all invade their privacy and track where they are 24/7 it's no big deal, right?