The math you have performed for the numbers that you have presented is off by a factor of 10.
Well, this proofs he's an engineer!.... Or he took the accelleration into account without mentioning it. That would make him a physicist. As those are rare on/., it must be the first.
Samsung has more than 3 OS for their phones. It does not seem to hurt them. A company like Nokia could bet on several horses in 2009 without worries, as long as management had clear goals and niches for each OS. Making a Nokia build with Android OS would sell.
./.'ers ability to predict product success is about as good as predicting the stock market.
You have to look at the group-think, not at the single commenters. If you take the time to read the entire/. thread, then the resulting viewpoint is not that bad as a predictor. For example, the wii was popular on/. before it became the wild success. The viewpoint on the wii now on/. is meh, but before launch and shortly after it was hot. Android was also hot before the current success,....
I understood your point with your first post. He did too. I understood his point with his post. Probably you too.
The fact you keep on posting anyway just makes you come over like a nut-case on a crusade. People have different views, every election shows that clearly. It suffices to make your point once, and intelligent people will get it. You can then post a retraction or a clarification, but doing just a series or replies with no extra content is just boring.
And I said probably a kid, but will follow my own advice and not explain further.
humanrev, you complain this entire tread that others don't follow your reasoning or are fan-boys, but if somebody, subjectively, says he does not want animations, not even a fraction of a second, you go on the same high horse like the people you accuse. Please, perform some self-reflection.
You want to impose your ideas on others, and for some reasons, most of what you want you seem to find in windows. Fine for you, leave the rest of us alone. He stated his point, if you can read, you should have understood and stopped posting.
As an aside, your slashdot account is a fifth of his, so you are probably the kid. And pleaaase, don't bother replying, really, if you feel like replying even to this post, then you did not understand my point.
TomTom took 3 years to provide an Android app, and it does not have all the iOS features, so a Win 8 app could be a way off. As TomTom sells dedicated GPS units, the smartphone part is in competition with their GPS units.
The problem with F/OSS office suites is that their audience tends to be uncritical, so much as in the fairy tale "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" (but in inverse), professionals have stopped listening.
I remember at least three incidents where I was instructed to evaluate Open Office, Libre Office or other F/OSS word processing or layout packages. In each instance, the F/OSS products fell short in fundamental ways, and were a total disaster for larger documents. Their main strength was that it was often easier to export data from them than it was in certain commercial products.
The point of this is that in order for one of these FOSS office suites to survive, people who are critical and have use requirements beyond short documents get involved. For these packages to be competitive, they need to rise to a higher standard than Grandma's recipes, Son's book report, a weekend memo to the boss, etc.
Hey, these are exactly the reasons I did not use a GUI Office back in 1996:-)
Tex for long documents, whatever office is installed for short.
I use LibreOffice at home and real Office at work. Because I need to do real work at work. Say what you will, but just because you prefer Google docs, doesn't make it the better platform overall.
I don't do 'office' work at work, and I think most people don't. Working with excell does not sound like typical office work either:-)
Anyway, at work I do real numerics, so talking about spreadsheets is like talking about the devil.
Pulling out of 6 % of the market (Wikimedia ). Up from 3% a year ago.
Pulling out of the entire HPC market which is not captured by browser statistics.
I suppose they could bet on windows phone 8.
On the other hand, as a linux user I avoided Nvidia, only have it in one laptop I got for free. Yeah, I need Nvidia to keep the prices down, but as a windows supplier they will do that part just fine.
The threat to office is from cloud services. For children doing homework, google drive is great, and be sure they already discovered that. Once using these tools, no way they will ask their parents to pay for MS office.
Ok, but then you mean you want to buy a new laptop, and this form factor is just how laptops will look like in the future. All hardware companies have prototypes of laptops that become tablets for win 8.
This take of MS on this form factor might win and looks nice... as a win laptop, but it will only beat tablets if it is not a laptop. At least for a few more years, the juice in a tablet is not there yet to be able to replace a laptop for real for most people, and certainly not for programmers.
Yeah, Cinavia shit is really annoying. It takes me 3x times the time to rip a dvd than to download a torrent. And what do they gain with it? I just run my stream on the laptop with hdmi out and see it on my Panasonic anyway. So what did they win? Oh yeah, that I won't buy Sony again.
As far as I understand your reasoning, you only claim that Nokia and WP7 would not do this if they are the market leader. So what is the positive effect? That people with a bad Nokia device get some freebees? I'm pretty sure threats of a (class action) suit are sufficient for that. I'm also pretty sure you could return your phone where you bought it in case of problems that go counter to the specifications.
Personally I think this is a bug turned into a marketing ploy. The amount of tv-web-paper-space that will be given to this 'issue' will be a good boost for brand recognition.
The average suicide rate in Foxconn is lower than the average on all US states.
That is not correct reporting. Many suicides in the west are young people who do not work yet,... . So you should compare the demographic that works in a Foxconn fabric, to the same demographic in the USA.
So, I have an Android now and used Nokia phones in the past. What I read there: no bluetooth file transfer, bad build quality, no sms draft save, no FM radio, no own mp3 as ring tones,...
Seriously, I did not look into Lumia myself, but reading that list, I would expect sales to be bad.
As an anecdote, a family member has an iphone 4, and I was visiting and explained how they could go on their home wifi to see websites on their iphone! Rejoice, Revelation! People with cash buy these things and expect phone to work, SMS to work, music playing/radio to work, photography to work, and quick picture exchange. They did not even check mail via the phone! So, all the rest in a smartphone is extra if you have time, but many people with jobs and children really do nothing else with their phone. If windows fails there as this guy says, then Nokia will fail
If you order from the US in Europe, customs will force you to pay VAT of 21% in Belgium. They have the right to ask a fine too, because you tried to dodge VAT, but I'm told that if you work via UPS or other official shippers, they have an aggreement to only add VAT.
3mm/yr * 100 yrs = 0.3m
The math you have performed for the numbers that you have presented is off by a factor of 10.
Well, this proofs he's an engineer! .... Or he took the accelleration into account without mentioning it. That would make him a physicist. As those are rare on /., it must be the first.
Samsung has more than 3 OS for their phones. It does not seem to hurt them. A company like Nokia could bet on several horses in 2009 without worries, as long as management had clear goals and niches for each OS. Making a Nokia build with Android OS would sell.
. /.'ers ability to predict product success is about as good as predicting the stock market.
You have to look at the group-think, not at the single commenters. If you take the time to read the entire /. thread, then the resulting viewpoint is not that bad as a predictor. For example, the wii was popular on /. before it became the wild success. The viewpoint on the wii now on /. is meh, but before launch and shortly after it was hot. Android was also hot before the current success, ....
I understood your point with your first post. He did too. I understood his point with his post. Probably you too.
The fact you keep on posting anyway just makes you come over like a nut-case on a crusade. People have different views, every election shows that clearly. It suffices to make your point once, and intelligent people will get it. You can then post a retraction or a clarification, but doing just a series or replies with no extra content is just boring.
And I said probably a kid, but will follow my own advice and not explain further.
You want to impose your ideas on others, and for some reasons, most of what you want you seem to find in windows. Fine for you, leave the rest of us alone. He stated his point, if you can read, you should have understood and stopped posting.
As an aside, your slashdot account is a fifth of his, so you are probably the kid. And pleaaase, don't bother replying, really, if you feel like replying even to this post, then you did not understand my point.
However, their app is really good...
TomTom for android downloads 3 Gb for the Europe map. Hopefully there's an option to put it on the SD....
The problem with F/OSS office suites is that their audience tends to be uncritical, so much as in the fairy tale "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" (but in inverse), professionals have stopped listening.
I remember at least three incidents where I was instructed to evaluate Open Office, Libre Office or other F/OSS word processing or layout packages. In each instance, the F/OSS products fell short in fundamental ways, and were a total disaster for larger documents. Their main strength was that it was often easier to export data from them than it was in certain commercial products.
The point of this is that in order for one of these FOSS office suites to survive, people who are critical and have use requirements beyond short documents get involved. For these packages to be competitive, they need to rise to a higher standard than Grandma's recipes, Son's book report, a weekend memo to the boss, etc.
Hey, these are exactly the reasons I did not use a GUI Office back in 1996 :-)
Tex for long documents, whatever office is installed for short.
I use LibreOffice at home and real Office at work. Because I need to do real work at work. Say what you will, but just because you prefer Google docs, doesn't make it the better platform overall.
I don't do 'office' work at work, and I think most people don't. Working with excell does not sound like typical office work either :-)
Anyway, at work I do real numerics, so talking about spreadsheets is like talking about the devil.
I can't find a translation for ONBEKOMMERT. What does it mean?
A verb to indicate "without worry" or "without second thoughts"
Pulling out of the entire HPC market which is not captured by browser statistics.
I suppose they could bet on windows phone 8.
On the other hand, as a linux user I avoided Nvidia, only have it in one laptop I got for free. Yeah, I need Nvidia to keep the prices down, but as a windows supplier they will do that part just fine.
The threat to office is from cloud services. For children doing homework, google drive is great, and be sure they already discovered that. Once using these tools, no way they will ask their parents to pay for MS office.
Probably referrring to Mekka
We should support plumbers instead. Let's give all households bidets instead, so boys can wash themself easily. And as a plus, it also benefits girls.
This take of MS on this form factor might win and looks nice ... as a win laptop, but it will only beat tablets if it is not a laptop. At least for a few more years, the juice in a tablet is not there yet to be able to replace a laptop for real for most people, and certainly not for programmers.
Clearly cut off. It might be that in reality it is not like that, but the pictures you see still have it.
Yes, I get my info from the commercials. If I don't like those, why would I try it in a shop. I think that is rational,
Farscape? I have all the seasons of that, and the movies. Surely you can't expect things to go on forever?
Yeah, Cinavia shit is really annoying. It takes me 3x times the time to rip a dvd than to download a torrent. And what do they gain with it? I just run my stream on the laptop with hdmi out and see it on my Panasonic anyway. So what did they win? Oh yeah, that I won't buy Sony again.
Personally I think this is a bug turned into a marketing ploy. The amount of tv-web-paper-space that will be given to this 'issue' will be a good boost for brand recognition.
If they ask money, EA definetely would be on their doorstep
PS3 is a lot better
Now, that is an understatement.
The average suicide rate in Foxconn is lower than the average on all US states.
That is not correct reporting. Many suicides in the west are young people who do not work yet, ... . So you should compare the demographic that works in a Foxconn fabric, to the same demographic in the USA.
So, I have an Android now and used Nokia phones in the past. What I read there: no bluetooth file transfer, bad build quality, no sms draft save, no FM radio, no own mp3 as ring tones, ...
Seriously, I did not look into Lumia myself, but reading that list, I would expect sales to be bad.
As an anecdote, a family member has an iphone 4, and I was visiting and explained how they could go on their home wifi to see websites on their iphone! Rejoice, Revelation! People with cash buy these things and expect phone to work, SMS to work, music playing/radio to work, photography to work, and quick picture exchange. They did not even check mail via the phone! So, all the rest in a smartphone is extra if you have time, but many people with jobs and children really do nothing else with their phone. If windows fails there as this guy says, then Nokia will fail
If you order from the US in Europe, customs will force you to pay VAT of 21% in Belgium. They have the right to ask a fine too, because you tried to dodge VAT, but I'm told that if you work via UPS or other official shippers, they have an aggreement to only add VAT.